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It's only some silly people on here that think Behringer is bad, they don't mind Arturia ripping off the exact same code as what you have in Brains.

I have all these

They are all good - the clones are space savers and built very well, I never have issues with them.

There is no question of ethics as Emile made her code open source.

So i have decided to get rid of the Filtamp aswell as Chips and Cells, attached is a screenshot of what my eurorack looks like now. Any more suggestions on what Modules would be awesome to get (mixers, amplifiers, filters (i will look into ripples and forbidden planet))? I thought about getting MI Beads and the Erica Synths Fusion VCO 2 as a second voice. Sequencing will be done by the Keystep Pro. Maybe you have some more ideas :)

EDITED Oct 15th 2022, 14:07

A distortion unit from Little Fish Audio.
A very simple build, great 1st or second, took me 30 minutes.
And OK distortion. I found (as you can see in the test section) that I got the best results (for my taste) with sequenced notes and using an LFO to modify symmetry. Your taste may vary, of course.

Build

This is from the manual:

"...with a range of 22 Hz to 22 kHz in the audio frequency mode.

In low frequency mode, the total range is
2.4 mHz (a period of 7 minutes) to 180 Hz, with
1 Hz when the knob is centred."

In other words, Orbit 3's LOW mode can get you into audio rates (up to 180 Hz), but I don't know how that compares to Zlob's module and if that is an improvement for your purposes.

Hi,

Does anybody have experience with this company's modules? I am looking to extend my drum capabilities and their Metal-O-Tron II and Can I Kick It? are looking nice. For the Metal-O-Torn, there's a little selection of clips on YouTube. But for the Kick, there's one demo where it plays in the background with the Metal, and another build guide that has it playing in the background as well. Both sound extremely promising but it's hard to judge by the lack of material online.

The company is based in Belgium, like me. Worst case, I can drive by them after work and let you all know how it went ;-)

Hello,
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but maybe check out Joranalogue's Orbit 3:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/joranalogue-audio-design-orbit-3

Always happy to deal with @Jihel :)

Enjoy the module :)

Thanks bro, this thread is 2 years old, I just came back to thanks everyone that helped me to start.
I actually have the VB.
Picture of my rack in my last message 🙂
Regards,
-- Zederwald

haha! nice!

Thanks bro, this thread is 2 years old, I just came back to thanks everyone that helped me to start.
I actually have the VB.
Picture of my rack in my last message 🙂
Regards,

Are there any chaos modules that have the ability to go from LFO rates to audio rates "smoothly"? Ideally with some kind of semi-controlled rate knob like in the zlob Diode Chaos. Diode Chaos almost gets there but it barely touches audio rate and doesn't seem to have a ton of room on the knob for exploring up there.
I could do this with a lfo/oscillator like the Pittsburgh oscillator and a clock-based chaos module like the NLC Squid Axom but then the rhythm would not be chaotic, only the voltage.

I suggest adding a Voltage Block to modulate the BIA

Check out:

Hey Shakespeare ///
Thank you so much for your feedback! This is exactly the kind of information I need!

I've had my eye on the Zadar, I just wasn't sure if it was as capable or versatile as Maths. I was definitely not excited about how much space Maths takes up in a 62hp case as it's all pretty valuable real estate. I hadn't come across the NE Versio module in my research, so I appreciate your insight, that's a great suggestion! I had thrown the Intellijel Digiverb 1u tile up top as I would love to have some reverb, I imagine the Versio is much more powerful with more control. There's also the Pico DSP (it's a mere 3hp), would that be comparable? Which Versio Module were you thinking? My thought process was that the NE Vol Ruina would be my filter, the distortion was just kind of a bonus... If I omit this module and go for a Versio would I still need a filter?

The larger case is certainly much more alluring and I feel if I don't break down and go for it now, I will eventually go that route, I just kind of like the challenge (and portability) of a smaller case! What would you add to fill out a 104hp case just out of curiosity?

Again, I can't thank you enough for your time and your words, this is all so incredibly helpful!

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I don't think either of these systems really do the trick, especially the second (that one has only a single drum voice, nothing else, which isn't in line with your stated goals).

For the first system: yes Maths is great and does lots of stuff, but in a 62-hp system, it takes up too much space. And the NE distortion module is fine, but it does only one thing. I'd consider removing these two modules and replacing them with something like the following: XAOC Zadar, a Noise Engineering Versio module, and whatever 4-hp module you think might be useful (the Q-Bit Nano-Rand might be fun, since you have no random source or S+H here). That'll cost you a little more, but it will pack a much greater wallop.

A much better idea though would be to move up to the 104hp version of this same case, and fill in the space you don't want to fill immediately with some blank panels (you can even make them out of cardboard). You're going to want the space eventually.

Hi, nice people,

So funny to read this thread, less than 2 years after my first message.
My research was based on a modular system that would "not be the center of my Techno Setup"
How could I be so naive ...haha.
I would like to thank you all guys, @Lugia @Farkas @the-erc.
You and the eurorack-modular community on other platforms have been so helpful.
Your recommendations, combined to my tastes, needs, and restrictions, thousands hours of Youtube videos, brought me to a 208 + 176 hp full of modules.
I'm now reaching my goal to have a single machine, based on random that I could play for hours in a live techno performance.
It's not perfect, for sure (any optimisation is still welcome !!!) but I feel happy and peacefull for now :)
Note that I still have the Roland TR-8S for "Classic" drums patterns, and for sure the beatstep pro.

I made some videos on Youtube if you like, but the best is to come ...

Thank you all guys !

Cédric

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2053328.jpg

Hello to all.

Does anyone know and has tested the clones of the MI modules of After Later Audio?
I have never bought clones of anything and I don’t like the idea.
But now, many MI modules are out of stock and the second hand market is going crazy.
I don’t like the idea of clones but I hate speculation!

So I wondered about After Later Audio and its MI clones.

Are they well constructed?
Do they sound good?
Are they comfortable to play?

Are they correct or ethically questionable?

Thanks for your opinion.

Finnally it got solved despite still have no communication with @grooveserfer but after a month the module arrived, I don't know if something happened to the user or he just sent it and turn off any will of communication, anyway I got mine and hope @slim has his too

As usual, smart contact and fine transaction with @Slim
Recommended Trader !
Thx for all :-)

EDITED Oct 14th 2022, 09:34

...Anyone happen to have a picture of the connections with arrows showing what goes where? ...
-- Thyratron88

hmmm
qex has to be right of QD main module
there aren't that much possibilities to align the connections!?
see the picture on https://vpme.de/qex/

*EDIT
the 16 pin connector has a POWER label at the bottom.
This indicates the position of the -12V / red wire of your ribbon cable

EDITED Oct 14th 2022, 07:51

Just got one of these QEX modules from Perfect Circuit. I was hoping the instructions had an actual picture of what connects to what exactly. It say to install centered on the pins and is easy to get wrong, then says do not connect the wrong way because damage may or will be caused to module. Also make sure not to bend pins. Anyone happen to have a picture of the connections with arrows showing what goes where? Thanks for the help.

Cheers ///
I have two potential builds for a 62HP Intellijel Palette Case and I need some handholding, and/or advice from more experienced people who are willing to offer it!

ModTwo:

ModSix:

I am very new to the world of Eurorack Modular, but not distant... I have an array of various synthesizers, drum machines and grooveboxes. The Make Noise 0-Coast has been my introduction to this awesome new world of sonic sounds and I've been saturating myself with information here on ModularGrid, YouTube, Perfect Circuit etc.

The proposed cases above are based on my amateur research and what (I think) my needs and goals are:
•Self-contained
•Sequencing capabilities
•Voice and some form of percussion
•Quality Build (and sound!)
•Intuitive introduction to modular synthesis
•Reasonable cost (I'd like to keep it under $2k)

Ultimately, the final build will be a combination of the two cases, if one doesn't overshadow the other in your humble opinion(s).

Do I have everything I need to make music within these cases? Are there better or more conservatively sized modules than the ones I've picked out? Are there unnecessary modules or any I may have accidentally doubled-up on, maybe one module that can perform the functions of another one and the limited space would be better suited for something else?

I truly appreciate any advice you're willing to offer, be it negative or positive or even "meh.." Thank you for your time and I'll look forward to any responses!

Keep on and stay gold,
Trevor

EDITED Oct 13th 2022, 22:59

This thing is brilliant. Perfectly simple and 1000% useful.

maybe something like that until a certain point ...
https://noisyfruitslab.com/2022/01/08/mobile-power-for-eurorack-synthesizer/
-- NoisyFruitsLab

Nice

maybe something like that until a certain point ...
https://noisyfruitslab.com/2022/01/08/mobile-power-for-eurorack-synthesizer/

The module seems to have many functionalities, but it seems that cv modulation is not one of them.
Maybe a lot of digital effects in 14HP at a ridiculous price.

curious about what brand you using for your Lithium Battery? I'm searching some to be able to travel w my 62hp Palette :)
-- davebrohl

Using this battery I found on amazon, again it is allowable for airline travel as it is 66W (needs to be under 100W). I have traveled by air with it and security did not give it a second look, although they thought my field microphone I was carrying was some sort of taser because of how the Zoom mics look :).
The battery lasts in my little 48hp for at least 5 hours and probably more as I have not done a real test of how long I can go before it dies or start seeing weirdness in the modules.

https://www.amazon.com/TalentCell-Rechargeable-12000mAh-Multi-led-indicator/dp/B00ME3ZH7C?ref_=ast_sto_dp

EDITED Oct 13th 2022, 14:52

Is this any different than these ?

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/11728
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/11729

same here, very curious to know your battery solution

it really is a weird decision to set this muchg of CV ins :D

interesting, like all of QU-Bit line

Hey fellow MG Users,
I recorded a new short video today.
Feel free to check it out:

Thanks for the tips!

Of course now I've looked and want a Disting EX, which sort of doubles the money I wanted to spend!

I think given that I have such a backlog of DIY to do (the reverbs, a tremolo guitar pedal, a knackered mixer in need of some replacement caps, as well as a complete casio refurb at some point) I shouldn't give myself more work - I never have time (2 kids, job etc)

I'll probably go for a single Disting (maybe 2nd hand) and likely upgrade to an EX later on. That sai, the EX really has a bunch of good stuff - the looper looks pretty exciting on its own as it's syncable and seemingly quite flexible with it. I need to research how to use (I think?) MIDI messages to get it to work with some sort of footswitch - that way I could get rid of my ancient boss RC20 to help towards the cost! And having different oscillator options is also a huge bonus, as it's quite easy to get bored of the two relatively similar analogue sounds I have...

Lots to think about. Maybe I should medtate on it while doing some soldering...

Thanks again!

EDITED Oct 13th 2022, 11:35

Please let us know in the comments what you think .

Thank you guys! Very helpful and interesting suggestions, really. I will think about it and definitely I will have to get more space to cover everything I want... hahaha

curious about what brand you using for your Lithium Battery? I'm searching some to be able to travel w my 62hp Palette :)

It seems as though, when a rack is using the default (or only) panel version for a module, whenever someone uploads a new version, that replaces the panel in all existing racks, even though the old
panel is preserved and can be restored by manually swapping it back into the rack.

It would be really nice if by default existing racks kept their old panel images. It’s kind of frustrating to pull up an older rack and find a bunch of panels have been swapped out.

Not that big of a deal in the end, but if you care at all about module faceplate colors especially, it's nice if they stay the same once they're in a rack.

EDITED Oct 18th 2022, 05:08

Update: I have the older manual now, but the midi input port is still not responding to both midi messages and sysex file transfers. I can exclude some causes with my cable management, since the midi out is working fine (sending note and gate data, tested on laptop's midi in monitor and the midi in on one of my synths - this works like a charm!) Things I have tried to find out what the problem actually is:

• The midi to cv mode (powering on while holding the left arrow key). This is not working, but it might be helpfull to say that when the module is powered on in this mode, the CV1 output moves to approx. +5.24 volt, except when voltage mode is set to 5V unquantized, then the CV1 output moves to approx. +1.92 volt. CV2 moves to +5.24 volgt and gate2 to +4.45 volt.
• Booting into the firware update mode (powering on while holding reset key). The two left ligths are red but nothing happens when I send a sysex file (both the A & B files)
• Different midi to TRS adapters (the one provided and adapters from 1010music, arturia and Empress effects)
• Flipping the mini switches on the back of the module - I've tried all four combinations
• Two different midi-usb interfaces

so instead of trying to connect the PSU's parallel i am going to add another RT65B in this specific row and everything should be fine...
thanks again!

-- modular01

Yeah, just adding another "power zone" is definitely the easier/more reliable solution!

please do NOT bridge your psu in parallel. when one gets broken your other lines will be overpowered and may burn down !
it is possible to bridge them for redundant use, but only until total power output for ONE psu.
datasheet RT-65B :
rated current : 5V=5A / +12V=2,8A / -12V=0,5A
current range : 5V=0-8A / +12V=0-3,5A / -12V=0-1A (Note 6: Each Output can work within current range. But total output power can't exceed rated output power.) here 64W, but try to stay below 80% i.e ca. 54W.
That means if you have 1A on the -12V rail you have max 2,3A on the +12V rail. so you can use your hungry WMD module within this rules. cheers.

thanks @justarandomgeek and @BrumoD for your answers!
I found the hint for 'current sharing' on the Meanwell website.
The RT65-B which i use, does not have this feature.

But in the Datasheet i found that there will be headroom up to 1A on the -12V line as long as the total power consumption does not exceed 64.4W

so instead of trying to connect the PSU's parallel i am going to add another RT65B in this specific row and everything should be fine...
thanks again!

If I remember correctly some Meanwell type of converters allow parallel use. They have a kind of current sensing wire and compensation circuit. I believe there’s also an application note available on their website.
-- BrumoD

yeah, for proper load sharing they need a little bit of sensing, but some (not all!!) dumb supplies are designed for parallel usage too, just with less-perfect sharing. I just don't know if OP's particular one is or not and can't quickly tell from its datasheet (usually a bad sign).

If I remember correctly some Meanwell type of converters allow parallel use. They have a kind of current sensing wire and compensation circuit. I believe there’s also an application note available on their website.

Hi all,
I've received a secondhand RYK M185 module today - the thing is pretty dope. Awesome for making acid baselines!
However when I tried to hook it up to my other gear to use it's clock as a slave, it noticed that the settings menu (where you set the midi in jack to be used as a reset) is different from the manual.
Instinctively I tried to update the firmware, but that doesn't seem to work either. When I hook up a midi monitor from my laptop via a midi - usb interface, the midi out of the M185 seems to work perfect but the midi is gives no reponse, both the sysex firmware update and sending notes in (what I think is) the midi to CV mode.
Does some have an older version of the M185 manual or can maybe knows why the firmware update is not working?
Thanks in advance!

So, in theory you can do this, but in practice there are a lot of ways it can go wrong too. If the supplies aren't perfectly matched (far closer than normal usage would require, so they probably aren't) they won't share the loads evenly, so you won't get as much extra headroom as you'd think, and if they're very badly unmatched they might drive power directly from one supply into another. Also, depending on their design they may also develop resonance/interference between them leading to, at best, very unclean power, and at worst, equipment-damaging surges. You might get away with it, if you're lucky, but i doubt anyone on here will be willing to say you will get away with it. I certainly wouldn't encourage it.

EDITED Oct 12th 2022, 14:48

Fine transaction with @Karus
Recommended !

I agree for a case this big you probably only want one sound source (beads also had over but you probably won't use it often if you are using beads for effects)

I don't know enough about pizza but the twin waves has two oscillators that can fm and am each other, and also double as LFO if needed.

However, without the quadrax you are going to be stuck using the o_c for envelopes which is a shame as it has lots to offer otherwise.

If you do put the quadrax back you can use one of its channels to fm the pizza

One option might be too go to a 6u case 😅

maybe my question was hard to understand. so here is another approach:
is it possible to sum up the headroom of all PSU's for all voltages over the entire rack by simply connecting the bus boards with 16 pin flat cables like this (or alternatively on the stronger wires directly on the PSU's output terminals which is technically the same)?

thanks in advance for any feedback or thoughts!

EDITED Oct 12th 2022, 07:46

I've been thinking about all the suggestions you've given me. Thanks again to all. I have literally fallen in love with Steve's MS-22 and also Bastl Pizza... This is the setup I have planned now based on your advice and after watching different demos and reviews.

Just one last question:
Maybe having BPizza and TW makes no much sense for this setup? I wonder if it would be smart to put for example an FX AID XL instead of the twin waves, or the Bastl Pizza? Because Twin Waves is more versatile I think... Maybe a different oscillator that complement one of these? I don't know, what would you prioritize in this case?

Thank you very much again to everyone! You are so helpful

EDITED Oct 12th 2022, 06:22