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Looking for some advice on advancing my currently very bored rig. I already have the Vermona filter, Addac Mixer, HexInverter, Joranlogue I/O.
I'm hoping to use this rack to generate experimental tones and textures and loops to sample and play with in Ableton/Octatrack/outboard FX. Less interested in making a monophonic synth machine but it'd be good to have a voice to sing with if needed... I'm not sure about how I want to sequence or drive notes/steps, and I threw the Rene in last minute but feel least committed to it. Definitely aiming to look at my computer screen much less. I'm interested to hear any suggestions for more left-field modules or more ergonomic replacements.
I love artists like Barker, Lusine, Monolake, etc..
Ive been building a song and video base, and plan to start gigging soon, so I thought I should start here when it comes to sharing.
This was just a fun robotic jam with some video modules to help as well.
Amazing! We have reached our funding goal for KOLOR. Thank you so much to everyone who has supported this project, I'm looking forward to see how you use KOLOR in your creative setup!
So my aim 2-3 years ago was to build a dawless techno set up. it currently consists of drums (Alpha Base), Sampler (Blackbox), Analogue Bass (Impulse Command), Sequencer (Pyramid).The left hand side of my modular consists of a digital voice (Scanned, using envelopes from Impulse Command) & the right hand side consists of Serge inspired modules for blips & blips etc.. Effects are supplied by pedals on the Endline send. As you can see the case has 24HP to be filled. I am very interested to know your suggestions for this gap.
Not sure I want to Expand bsyond this Point.
What are you missing?
-- Cangore
You may have answered your own question. Your rack seems pretty complete and looks pretty fun. If you're happy with it as is, I'd say leave it and enjoy it (and save the money!).
What are the goals with the synth and for expansion? It looks well-laid out, depending on what your aims are with it. Maybe switch out the passive mult for a buffered one, so you can use it more reliably for 1v/oct? You could consider a precision adder for manual control over transposition (I love the vpme.de T-43 for this), but I see that you already have MIDI connecvtivity so maybe this point is moot to your workflow. Really, other than suggesting smaller versions of modules to squeeze a few hp out here and there, I don't think there's need to change anything.
Interesting, maybe not quite for me just yet until I buy my next Case.
Just spotted the Top image is showing a slightly older version, jpg must not have refreshed.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
I'm always on the International Spaced Station! haha My usual tripod is in the other room so its actually a lazy camera angle.
Cheers & Merry Christmas
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
What would you add to my top case? Could be Powered or Passive, I'm planning on adding a Passive Stereo High Pass Filter from Herzlich Labs after the Panmix for the ability to do a filtered drop. I've got MI Kinks in there at the moment but it simply doesn't get used.
Its very much an acid bass box with 303 and 101 sounds, I'm mostly sequencing from the Beatstep Pro and percussion comes from my percussion case:
My basic idea is that these 2 cases can be used together with the Beatstep Pro without my Main Case.
Cheers
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Very fun track! Excellent playing on frequencies and resonance (nice demo of Font, it makes you want...) The positioning of the camera and the darkness give the impression of a weightlessness session. Were you on the International Space Station? :))
The SIG+ is a recent addition to my rack and I've been loving it. Playing the SIG+ feels like having a conversation with my synth, and I'm still only part of the way through figuring out everything it can do.
If you don't mind the question, I'm curious if you envision the Strange-R as a compliment to the SIG? I'd love to hear how you envision the two modules working together, if at all.
Pretty cool Phin. Didn't see that coming.
Another module..
I guess I have to get it, probably the larger one.
Another module...
The SIG is in most everything I do, it's wonderful.
Another module....
Strange-R introduces a totally new way to do sequencing: Melodic Contour Sequencing. It’s extremely powerful at generating recursive melodies, loops and randomness, making generative melodies that sound like human melodies, or live-varying external sequences sent to its input, but never losing sight of your direct realtime performative control.
The majority of its melodic power comes from just two controls…
ρ (Rho = Correlation = Melodic Direction)
∆ (Delta = Deviation = Melodic Jumpiness)
These two simple intuitive controls both originate the melodic material, and then also determine how it is manipulated by 3 independent ‘phrase loopers’ to walk or jump the loop up and down. All this is combined in a unique internal 'micro-patch' with the quantizer (able to do automatic Modal Interchange and Circle of Fifths modulation), two chaotic LFOs, two flavours of noise (analogue and PRNG with sample rate and bit depth control) full CV control over every function, as well as the input which permits live re-composition and variation of anything you send it.
The result is a generative powerhouse and mother-of-all-random source utilities.
* Custom SI Random Walk
* Music theory aware quantizer (automatic Modal Interchange, Circle of 5ths, root note set)
* 3 independent loopers able to hold over 4000 events
* Built in probabilistic TrEG envelopes
* 2 Chaotic LFOs
* External CV Input for live manipulation of an external sequence
* External Clock Input for eternal sync with no lower bpm limit
* Clocks into audio to use as VCO (tri/saw inc.VCO sync!)
* All functions CV controlable
* Non-sprung joystick control with direct JS XY output +/-8v
* CV folder/wrapper
* Quantizer can be used as live input keyboard with chiptune pseudopolyphony
* Full memory recall into 7 scenes
* Special input/output calibration mode
* Firmware updatable via micro SD Card
Patch notes are on the vid.
Just top case and percussion case in action here.
Cheers for listening.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
So after a long hiatus I finally filled up my Rack.
I made some Quality of Life improvements like the Direct Out's and finally got a Clock Divider and Muxlicer for some more variety with rhythms.
Not sure I want to Expand bsyond this Point.
What are you missing?
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So after a long hiatus I finally filled up my Rack.
I made some Quality of Life improvements like the Direct Out's and finally got a Clock Divider and Muxlicer for some more variety with rhythms.
Not sure I want to Expand bsyond this Point.
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Rossum's Mob of Emus does the harminic oscillator thing beautifully, and a lot more.
Doesn't have the fun sliders though.
It can give you six note polyphony and can sing sweet as a bird or tear your head off.
Outstanding build quality and precise tuning, at half the price of the Verbos.
But only six harmonics vs. eight with the Verbos.
The OXi Coral in also interesting, but it prefers to be midi driven and that's not the direction you're headed.
The upside is it also does VCF, ENV, and VCA without extra modules, unlike Mob of Emus.
I've not tried the Metropolix, mainly because I have a Frap Tools Usta and a SIG Inspiration Generator
to handle sequence-y duties. Metropolix looks like an excellent heart for your system.
Thanks for your precious feedback @noodle_hut ! For the multiples I had chosen some "randomly" without looking at whether they were active or not. Aware of what you suggest I would have purchased them active anyway. Thanks also for the tips on cables!
For the patches, maybe you're right: a system like that could be a bit limiting. Looking at the additions made by Toccata I think the system can become more flexible. I have various ideas and I'm trying to put them in order, both (indeed above all) for a question of money and to try to take a musical direction and not change it halfway.
Verbos attracts me, I don't know why! Maybe it's the colours, the fact that it's an harmonic oscillator or maybe it's because Caterina Barbieri uses it (listen to her if you don't know her): would you recommend anything else in its place? Also following your musical tastes, of course.
As you may have noticed my main source of "notes" is Metropolix - have you used it? What do you think about it? It seems like a large but worthwhile expense to me to use it as a command center.
Passive mults are maybe ok for clocks and gates, but using them for cv and envelopes makes things unpredictable
(not in the good way) and makes keeping things "in tune" futile.
Drop the passive mults for Rides in the Storm QAMs. They're terrific, well made and cheap for what they do in 4hp.
Were you going to use a mult to combine audio down by the Doepfer Mix? Don't do that.
And don't use those patch cables with LEDs in them, except maybe one for debugging. They are evil.
Give consideration to what's mono and what's stereo in your signal paths (looking at the Ghost and the M4s)
and if you'll be throwing away some of what you're generating. I haven't tried the Ghost, it looks really fun.
It looks like you have a certain patch/path in mind. But what about the 2nd, 3rd, 4th... patches?
Will this have what you need?
Look at the Doepfer A-135-2 for a Quad Mixer/VCA.
Seems light on filters and LFOs.
Why does everyone like Maths? I don't get it.
Every box could use an ALM Pamela's Pro Workout.
Take a look at the Frap Tools 321 and 333 to see how they might fit in to your ideas.
Nazca Noodles are the only patch cables I use. They are perfection.
Same with Befaco Knurlies. Accept no sustitutes.
That Verbos sure takes up a lot of your space and budget for the one trick you get out of it.
Thanks very much for the reply @Toccata ! My biggest concern is having a modular that isn't very "playable" and, although I know that everyone has their own modular ambitions, do you think that such a system could bring me joy and be playable? In the meantime, I'll start researching the modules you suggested!
With the extra 4HP (x 2) add an FX Aid or two—(you won't get bored using this one. Here's the list of FX you can load: https://fxaid.app/)
Also think about dropping the Doepfer Mix and GRP together and using the 8HP for a Bastl Neo Trinity (really good compact modulation source) or Ikarie (stereo multi-mode filter).
Also the Tangle Quartet is similar to the Quad VCA with 4HP less space and maths can be chopped in half with the Function or even further with Instruo Cnoc.
Hi everyone! I just launched myself into the eurorack world. I'm noticing the jungle of existing modules: my idea is to create a not excessively complex modular that allows me to experiment with overall melodic sounds. My reference artist is Caterina Barbieri. I tried to build the rack around the Metropolix and the Verbos oscillator, by adding other modules which for me were sufficient to achieve my musical goal. I refer to you, certainly more experts than me: do you notice any major limitations? Or rather, in your opinion is a system of this type "playable" according to my desires and assumptions? Thanks so much to anyone who wants to join the discussion!
Putting Behringer in a rack always makes me feel a little dirty, but at ~$150, this was too hard to pass up.
I've only had it for a day, so I'm still a novice with it.
I put it in a nifty case with a Rossum Assimil8tor for voicing, and a Doepfer A-121-3 vcf to tame the output.
It's pretty nice. Well made, clean readable graphics, and I really like the feel of the buttons on the keypad.
Other vendors would be charging $500 (or more) for this hardware and feature set.
It's big in the rack at 52hp, but it also doesn't feel as cramped to work with like other complex modules.
The documentation is terrible, even for Behringer. There's a little "what", but there's not much "how".
But the thing I wanted to mention here is the often derided Musictribe app.
In this case, it's the RS-9's saving grace.
You can set the usual i/o things, but a second page let's you build and edit the patterns and steps,
and makes the module understandable for those like me that are just starting out with it.
The app's not pretty, but it gets the job done. I went from frustrated to smiling in about 5 minutes.
That's it for now. Recommended, especially at this price point.
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I wonder if its got Propellerhead Recycle .rex file compatibility?
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Thonk is now making their own modules!
Here’s the first, a very narrow, but full featured, oscillator/LFO.
Sounds great, and allows you to pull the four waveforms (sine, square, triangle, and saw) off at the same time.
Very easy build, would make a good first kit. Inexpensive too, at this writing (Nov 1, 2024) it’s only 65 pounds. Build
Many thanks to both of you. I need to search for mults, utilities & VCAs.
I forgot to mention that I have Batumi and planned to buy Ochd for LFOs, when I get rid of the Hermod currently getting in the way. I also have a Verbos Pan & Scan but I'm not sure about it, and a Twiigs for random probability of triggering evnts with my kick / live perf.
--> " Since your plan is to integrate with your DAW pretty much the whole time, you have quite a lot of flexibility and can probably hold off on filling your hp until you have a better sense of how the instrument works for you and your flow."
you couldn't be more right, I'm still exploring ! For now, I'm still doing this in my matrix :
Since I use a 4x4 Matrix Mixer for audio inputs (maybe I'll try 3 audio sources and 1 modulation) I still hesitate between BearModules's Stereo Mix 1U or your Befaco Stmix as a final auudio output but maybe I'm missing a cool opportunity for an end-of-chain mixer with 4 stereo inputs)
For the past few days I tried to get a grasp on Route 4 and Switch 4, but that could be overkill with the Matrix Mixer in the way I want to use layers of sounds and designated fxs chains that are often stereo ? or maybe the videos I watched weren't showing enough/the right approach. What I feel I need is definitely 'hands-on' modules like these though, glad I leaerned about them!
I will write some more as I explore :)
Thank you,
Victor
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The font size on Microsoft Edge is too small for the entire website, almost unreadable...
-- electricfish
Ensure you have 100% zoom. I think the symbol in your address bar indicates a non standard value.
maybe you changed it unintentionally with Ctrl + mousewheel
common keyboard shortcut for 100 % zoom is Ctrl + 0.
those shortcuts should work in most web browsers
The font size on Microsoft Edge is too small for the entire website, almost unreadable. It looks like the website thinks my screen is huge, which is not the case. I am not sure if this is a bug or some sort of cache issue. But I haven't found anything in the cache. It used to work normally before, but something got broken. Any idea on how to fix it?
For me, the Panharmonium is its own thing. It has its own idea of harmonics and doesn't play well with others if you want things "in tune". The Doepfer frequency shifter is also kind of like that. I use the mini synth voice after the Pan to tame it and maybe chop up the output. That said, it makes sounds like nothing else and when I use it, it dominates: "this is a Panharmonium piece". I'm still learning it, but it's challenging.
It's such a cool concept and all of the videos I've seen sound really wild. I can kind of see why it might not be great at blending in with the crowd, though, as you say. I have the Assimil8or and the sound quality and intuitiveness of the interface is out of this world, so I'm very keen to experiment with a differnt piece of Rossum gear. The Doepfer frequency shifter I've also had my eye on (shame about the price); I can only imagine how much it helps in a patch.
Because the stuff I do is almost always auto-generated, the SIG is usually my starting point. I just love it. It's always good for making those moments where you have to stop and listen in wonder at what it's doing. I have the two sequential switches after it so I can use SIG as a selectable chord bank. I'm sort of slicing the four channels sideways into a single channel, then use the adder to transpose the key, the switches to select the bank. That CV/gate pair then gets split back into four pairs by the Shifty, envelopes are made and then it all goes up to the Mob of Emus, VCF'ed, VCA'ed, and out. Takes a lot of wires to set up the patch, but holy smokes, it sounds amazing.
That is an insanely neat patch. I'm still in the "trying to remember what button combo does what" phase of learning the SIG, but the potential is clear. I love the idea of essentually improvising a duet with the synth.
I’ve got nothing too exotic, very meat and potatoes compared to most setups I’ve seen here.
-- noodle_hut
It's the meat and potatoes that get the job done. The fancy garnishes can wait.
For me, the Panharmonium is its own thing. It has its own idea of harmonics and doesn't play well with others if you want things "in tune". The Doepfer frequency shifter is also kind of like that. I use the mini synth voice after the Pan to tame it and maybe chop up the output. That said, it makes sounds like nothing else and when I use it, it dominates: "this is a Panharmonium piece". I'm still learning it, but it's challenging.
Because the stuff I do is almost always auto-generated, the SIG is usually my starting point. I just love it. It's always good for making those moments where you have to stop and listen in wonder at what it's doing. I have the two sequential switches after it so I can use SIG as a selectable chord bank. I'm sort of slicing the four channels sideways into a single channel, then use the adder to transpose the key, the switches to select the bank. That CV/gate pair then gets split back into four pairs by the Shifty, envelopes are made and then it all goes up to the Mob of Emus, VCF'ed, VCA'ed, and out. Takes a lot of wires to set up the patch, but holy smokes, it sounds amazing.
The three thru-zero VCOs section in the lower right is a new idea to play with FM. It’s not quite there yet, but getting close. The OXi Coral is also new. It really wants to be fed by midi, so I use the Befaco CV Thing to give it 8 analog inputs, giving me eight voices in a small space. You can see there’s also the midi i/o from the NerdSeq directly to the left of it. Shows promise.
The NerdSeq. sigh. I use it all the time, and it can do a thousand things, but the interface makes those thousand things hard to find and use. Ten pounds in a one pound sack. It really needs another interface layer on top of what’s there. Clearer documentation would help as well. It reminds me of programming in assembly language. Tedious. A love/hate relationship with that one. Same with the Disting, but for different reasons. If you’ve got one, you know.
I really like the clock section in the lower left. Gives me everything I need including start/stop and reset. One button starts the whole thing. That Multicore there has two ribbon cables on the back that mirror to the other Multicore on row two. Saves me from draping clock and control all over, and the RJ45 connectors still work to bridge to other boxes. Glad that I read the manual for them. And the QAM multiples are great. Well made at a good price.
I’ve got nothing too exotic, very meat and potatoes compared to most setups I’ve seen here.
Thanks @Sweelinck
Nyx, the cat, helped. I should really get a Dreadbox Nyx at some point just because of the name.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Sympathetic little session with a crazy camera angle (also allowing another elegant performance from one of your cats) and a nice participation from Font. Cool, the weekend looks good :)
New camera angle and the deep bass is from my new Nano Modules Font filter.
Cheers for listening
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
What are the jumper configurations on these? I cant find a full manual for it
Like a jumper config to disable 0 in the pulse rate would be nice, for when manually performing, its hard to position it back to 1 really fast.
Or at least in turn, would've been nicer to have the manual knob be a CV offset instead of being disabled when a cable is plugged in :\