Yup, Stolperbeats is right. I don't own one and therefore can't evaluate how it differs from the competition, but I can tell you that almost any digital sequencer on the market right now has some form of microtiming, i.e. per-step swing. I use the Vector sequencer a lot, I'm sure the Hermod family has it, too. All Elektron products have parameter locking, which includes microtiming.
On the Stolperbeats this seems to be solved algorithmically with a single encoder, whereas on the examples I mentioned, you have to edit the swing on each step manually.
I remember seeing maybe in 2021-2022 a new (sequencer) module that offered a lot of power for producing heavy swing or heavy groove in Eurorack drum triggering.
I can't for the life of me remember the name of the module, find it, or anything like it presently. I think I recall it was released 2021-2022, was 400-600 ($s, USD) at list price, and in the 24-36HP size range. It was also being marketed for Eurorack-based hiphop and related genres.
Anyone remember that module and/or know of a great current module for acheiving custom & heavy grooves in Eurorack rhythm sequencing?
El-Ma Ørsted V2
El-Ma Ørsted takes its name from Hans Christian Ørsted, the physicist and chemist known for his discoveries in the field of electromagnetism.
“El-Ma” is an abbreviation of the term electromagnetic field.
There are countless electromagnetic waves around us that we cannot notice, hear, or see. With El-Ma Ørsted, you can listen to this invisible world, transform these signals into sound, and create music from them.
El-Ma Ørsted can detect radio waves, electromagnetic fields, signals emitted by electronic devices, and environmental electromagnetic interactions. Its main difference from a conventional radio is that it allows you to listen to a much wider frequency range. This makes it possible to experience not only broadcasts, but the entire electromagnetic activity of your surroundings.
Taking a walk in the city, wandering in nature, or rediscovering the electronic world of everyday life with El-Ma Ørsted is extremely exciting. Electronic circuits, cables, phones, modems, power outlets, computers, hard drives, refrigerators, and LCD screens all seem to regain their sound through El-Ma Ørsted.
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El-Ma Ørsted V2 has been redesigned in a much more compact, elegant, and portable form while preserving exactly the same electronic architecture and sound character of the previous version.
Instead of the wooden enclosure used in the V1 model, V2 is housed in a specially designed plastic enclosure that is durable, lightweight, and small enough to fit in the palm of your hand. This significantly improves portability and makes daily use much more practical.
In the new model, a convenient battery cover located on the back allows the 9V battery to be easily removed and replaced. The threaded mechanism of the cover enables quick and secure battery changes.
From an electronic standpoint, El-Ma Ørsted V2 offers the same sound sensitivity and detection capability as the previous version, using the same high-quality components and coils. The new version adopts a more compact and modern production approach.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Hello MG-Board,
Is it possible to create a 196 TE Rack? Is there perhaps a premium feature or something similar available? I wanted to create my new rack (12U, 196TE), but there seems to be a restriction on the width of the rack. :(
I am putting this one together at the moment. A few modules are back ordered but will be here in a month or so. I have a bit of space left either for a new module or I can put in some from my other 2 layer case. Anyway, curious what one might add to this if it was your rack. Thanks for the comments.. I am also looking for modular folks in Central Portugal.
peace
scott aka Dr Space
I'm interested in adding a live generative music element to a rock opera I'm working on. I'm having trouble understanding what sequencer and/or quantizer would be best for this.
This is all very theoretical right now, I am just starting to write this thing. But for my ideal wants, the system would be able to:
Generatively select pitches from a scale or key
Change which scale/chord it's selecting notes from on a fairly arbitrary rhythm (odd time signatures)
Edit the pattern of chords and rhythms in real time, without distracting the player from their main expression of creativity, which is through changing the sound of the instrument
And it would be kind of nice if I could speed up or slow down to match the speed of live musicians.
Anything come to mind? I looked at a few sequencers but I'm kind of drawing a blank. I don't think I'm experienced enough with sequencers to tell if they're able to change stuff around in real time or not.
i have one. i like it. its useful because i dont have all the money in the world. intellijel have no right to be selling at the prices they are. sue me.
I would rather have a 18 years old that can afford a Behringer modular set up than a 18 years old that is looking at youtube videos about Makenoise modules.
Does anyone sell a Malekko Voltage Block?
- or any idea for a good alternative?
Purpose: Sequencing and modulating drum voices, like BIA and similar.
I use Pams and mimetic digitalis + lapsus Os at the moment,.
but I need pams for other stuff and I dont like the mimetic digitalis so much.
I need more channels, so I guess I would need like 2-3 Mimetic digitalis + attenuation etc
Voltage Block seems to be a good idea to me, but I see no one around.
You just want to send the output of voice1 or voice2 to the looper, yes?
Is it ok if they're both 'active'? Is just routing the audio ok?
Routing cv and gate is harder.
With two Doepfer 182-2's, you need two cv/gate pairs, the trigger for each, and reset for each to sync them.
At least 8 wires vs. 2 wires if it's just audio. Plus 2x 4hp in the rack.
There are advantages though to routing cv/gate. Both voices can interplay,
and you can have long sustains without cutoffs or clicks when you switch, but it gets complicated quickly.
Look at the Doepfer A-133-2 Dual Voltage Controlled VCA/Polarizer/Inverter or the cheaper A-130-2 dual VCA.
It'll sound better.
There's also the Doepfer 182-2, a quad passive manual switch. I'm imagining some fun uses to put two different cv/gate signals into two of the switches, route those to the inputs of the other two switches to send to your two synth voices, and you've got a lot of variety without needing to repatch! No voltage control over switching though, but if you don't care about that it could work for you. Pretty cheap too!
it really depends on what you want to achieve.
for simple switch duties the simple doepfer dual vc switch is just good.
for more complex ideas, the WMD SSM is ace. Fun and immediate.
I also have a Qu-Bit Synapse, and I really use it for many things. This is a very powerful module. The LED are very nicely displaying the module behavior. This has been my favorite switch.
A common technique for making a kick is to take a low-frequency sine wave and apply a short envelope (with zero or near-zero attack) to both frequency and volume. So you start out with a high pitch that rapidly goes back down again. Most envelope generators have an exponential decay shape rather than a 1/x shape, but they're pretty similar (1/x in red, exp decay in blue):
Setting the topologist's sin curve to have a fixed frequency doesn't look like it works, since the curve is a sin with a constantly decreasing frequency. Also, its frequency at the origin approaches infinity, so you might have to find some workaround for that.
I don't really understand the topology aspect of it but I bet you could get a decent audio version out of Desmos.
New module yay! Been working on this in the past 5 years. Made of ~900 components, including 44 VCA, 146 opamp & 36 switch channels spread on two 6 layer PCBs, this is going to be one of the most complex eurorack modules...
It is a fully analogue modular compressor built to go far beyond traditional dynamics control. Complexor combines low-noise, high-quality compression with advanced sidechain processing, multiple topologies, and dual-band / dynamic EQ modes with audio feedback and 1V/O CV inputs that invite experimentation.
It can be clean and polite.
It can be aggressive and unstable.
It can be played and modulated.
With feedback-capable routing and frequency-dependent dynamics, complexor behaves less like a utility and more like an instrument inside your system. It delivers the depth and flexibility often associated with digital compressors, but without aliasing or digital artifacts, thanks to its entirely analogue signal path.
Why did I make it in the first place? I started working on complexor because I kept running into the same wall.
Digital compressors had the flexibility I wanted.
Analogue compressors had the sound I liked.
None of them really let me play the dynamics.
So I started sketching a compressor where the sidechain wasn’t just a detector, but a place you could patch, filter, split, recombine, and even feed back into itself. Somewhere along the way it stopped being “a compressor design” and started behaving like a small system of its own.
Complexor is the result of that process. It’s fully analogue, not because of nostalgia, but because nonlinear analogue behaviour still does things I don’t hear in digital. Especially when pushed into feedback, saturation, and time-varying control.
I’m building this as a single-person operation under modmonk dot eu
If you’re looking for a clean utility compressor, this might be excessive. But it covers that too.
If you’re looking for a dynamics processor that can be gentle, violent, unstable, and musical, often in the same patch, then this is probably for you...
Re: Mixing. How do you plan on mixing your various voices and signal flows? I'd probably put this above even switching, but forgot to specifically mention it above.
I've got a RME Fireface that I use for mixing and matrix routing.
-- Pe8er
But will that handle modular signals within your modular rack? Mixers aren't just for handling audio signals.
For example, mixing two or more lfo's to create more complex/interesting control voltages.
Panning, crossfading, muting, are also things mixers can bring to the table.
Eurorack modules are typically "hotter" than regular audio signals, so usually some sort of output module is used to convert to regular equipment levels outside of the rack. RME Fireface may handle that, I'm not familiar with it, but if so, you'd then need 3.5mm mono > 1/4" cables, correct?
Hope that makes sense!
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Hi,
Good choice.
I have the Warna and is good for mult (and sum) pitch signals. For mult gates or cv I use passive multiples (less money and less space).
Filter. Your voices have filters yet (Mother, Oxi and OneRoi). I'll buy a filter just in case you want to add a new "simple" voice.
I like Bastl Ikarie and Three Tom Steve's Ms-22, but filter are a very personal choice.
Modulation. Maybe some random cv generator. LFO's and enevelopes are good for modulation, but are "statics". If you want more rythmic modulation maybe a Sample and Hold, for example RND STEP from DivKid, 6 channels in 4HP. For dynamic modulation, maybe a classic, a MI Marbles clone.
Please keep the list consistent according to this simple rule:
All Bucha modules, and clones of them, should be listed as "Model ###".
Then we can sort them alphabetically, to find what we are looking for.
ive tried many ways but still cant get them all working together ...so questions
1) will i need to disconnect the sequencer from the eurorack cause since i want the lush bass sounds from the pro 1 i thought it may cause a issue
2) im using 5 din midi or would patching it be a better way
3) and finally what order ,, im currently using swing> rd-6>pro 1 > eurorack ...
thanks guys
Re: Mixing. How do you plan on mixing your various voices and signal flows? I'd probably put this above even switching, but forgot to specifically mention it above.
I've got a RME Fireface that I use for mixing and matrix routing.
Good choice of first case. I'd suggest removing the Mother into it's own case to create more room but you can come to that point organically as your system grows.
That's the plan!
Perhaps look into additional utilites such as switches (quad sequential, et al.).
Literally never heard of those. Thanks, I'm off to read about them!
LFOs also seem underrepresented unless you want OXI One handling all of those.
Yes, that's the plan for now - Oxi gives me 8 CVs + Zadar for many more.
Maybe a filter?
What would you recommend for industrial? I was looking at Doepfer A-124 (Wasp), Bastl Ikarie and WMD C4RBN.
You may also eventually find yourself wanting additional vcas.
Definitely yes!
Edit: I just realized you had polimaths vs. normal maths. Unless you're planning on expanding with Make Noise's New Universal Skiff System, you may be better off running a regular ol' maths? I'm not very familiar with the NUSS, so don't quote me on that, though.
I was under the impression that Polimaths works well stand-alone, but I'll look into NUSS. Maybe I want to get into it and I just don't know it yet :)
Thanks for your comments, super helpful!!
-- Pe8er
Right on! :)
Re: Filters. These are a very personal choice, and I don't have much experience with Industrial, but I can say Ikarie and Wasp are highly thought of in general, and sort of "classics," especially the Wasp. I'd say go with your ears, though, when making a choice.
Re: Mixing. How do you plan on mixing your various voices and signal flows? I'd probably put this above even switching, but forgot to specifically mention it above.
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Good choice of first case. I'd suggest removing the Mother into it's own case to create more room but you can come to that point organically as your system grows.
That's the plan!
Perhaps look into additional utilites such as switches (quad sequential, et al.).
Literally never heard of those. Thanks, I'm off to read about them!
LFOs also seem underrepresented unless you want OXI One handling all of those.
Yes, that's the plan for now - Oxi gives me 8 CVs + Zadar for many more.
Maybe a filter?
What would you recommend for industrial? I was looking at Doepfer A-124 (Wasp), Bastl Ikarie and WMD C4RBN.
You may also eventually find yourself wanting additional vcas.
Definitely yes!
Edit: I just realized you had polimaths vs. normal maths. Unless you're planning on expanding with Make Noise's New Universal Skiff System, you may be better off running a regular ol' maths? I'm not very familiar with the NUSS, so don't quote me on that, though.
I was under the impression that Polimaths works well stand-alone, but I'll look into NUSS. Maybe I want to get into it and I just don't know it yet :)
Good choice of first case. I'd suggest removing the Mother into it's own case to create more room but you can come to that point organically as your system grows.
Perhaps look into additional utilites such as switches (quad sequential, et al.).
LFOs also seem underrepresented unless you want OXI One handling all of those.
Maybe a filter?
You may also eventually find yourself wanting additional vcas.
You're probably best off working with the above for a while and seeing what limitations you're bumping up against, and adding capabilities based on that.
Best of luck!!
Edit: I just realized you had polimaths vs. normal maths. Unless you're planning on expanding with Make Noise's New Universal Skiff System, you may be better off running a regular ol' maths? I'm not very familiar with the NUSS, so don't quote me on that, though.
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm in the process of building out my first rack and I'm hoping for criticism and guidance. I'm pretty new to this and having done a ton of reading on this forum and hours of listening to Youtube demos, I got overwhelmed and decided to ask for your help.
I started out with Befaco Oneiroi and Mother 32, fell in love with the sound and the possibilities, and I want to build a rack instrument with dirty industrial synths, dark ambient drones and irregular noise rhythms.
Musical inspirations: Skinny Puppy, Meshuggah, Moderat, Brian Eno, Nine Inch Nails, MZ.412, Burial, Autechre, Front 242.
I'm not planning to perform live, but I want hands-on controls and as little menu diving as possible.
Here's the breakdown:
Misc
Case: planning to go for TipTop Mantis
I have the Oxi One, which will be doing clock, sequencing and lots of modulation.
Audio mixing is done into RME Fireface UCX II and eventually recorded into Ableton (but I don't want to have the computer hooked up to the system on a daily basis)
Voices
Mother 32 - already have it, will pull it out if I need space for more modules. Love the sound on this thing.
Coral - it's a bit complicated but I figured it's a ton of functionality per HP + integrates well with Oxi One.
Oneiroi - already have it, absolutely love it.
(not Euro) Digitakt 2 - already have it, for drums and samples.
Modulation
Oxi One - serves clock, sequencing, envelopes, LFOs, triggers, pitch etc.
Zadar - envelope generation, mostly for Oneiroi. I love the visual feedback from the screen.
Polimaths - I don't fully understand it…but it seems like it can give me tons of CV modulation to create unpredictability and polyrhythmic grooves.
Effects
Ruina Versio - distortion, noise. I love how it sounds, hands-on control looks fun + super flexible, as I can flash other modules onto it.
Mimeophon - delay, reverb, looper. I'm looking for an excellent-sounding delay/reverb that can do weird things if needed, and after hearing a million demos, this seems to be it. It sounds almost as good as Starlab to my ears, and its capability to do weird sounds very fun and musical to me.
Utilities
Oxi Pipe - 8x CV and 8x gates from Oxi One.
FH-2 - MIDI from Oxi One for even more modulation. Makes me wonder if I need Zadar?
Warna II - looks very cool and useful, but I'm not sure if I need it, since there is a simple mult in Mother 32 and Polimaths is so powerful.
Nano ALT - this seems to be the most feature per HP quad VCA I could find.
What do you think? What am I missing? Thanks for looking!!
That's awesome, the new design really looks nicer now. Thank you very much for the update!
One small bit of feedback: the module thumbnails now being cropped into squares makes it harder to recognize modules at a glance. It would look more natural if they kept a constant height and variable width, similar to how they appear in real life.
Manufacturer: MEAN WELL
PSU type: switched-mode
PSU rated power: 64.6W
12V DC / 2800mA – 3500mA
-12V DC / 500mA – 1000mA
5V DC / 5000mA – 8000mA
Each output can work within the full current range. But total output power can’t exceed rated output power.
Body dimensions: 129 x 98 x 38mm
Weight: 440g
PSU input voltage: 88-264V AC, 125-373V DC
Protection: overload, voltage growth, short-circuit
Oh no :( that's a shame. I would love to be able to at least purchase alternative silver panel, at whatever cost it is. Hard shovelling a full black panel in my purist silver panel...
Thank you for posting this! There are a few videos on our YouTube channel which demonstrate Malleable: here's the latest one that was posted today. In the video, Malleable is used as part of a hybrid system to process MIDI data, generate sounds and create control voltage signals.
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