Thread: IdealRack

Notes: This is a combo of stuff I already have in the case (Behringer Eurorack Go) and stuff I don't yet have, but plan to.

The bottom right module (Level Fixit) is a placeholder for a Pulp Logic 1U to 3U converter (w/ built-in passive attenuator) that holds the two 1U tiles underneath it (need to grab an actual output module eventually). I picked that one because it was the same HP as the adapter & passive. Will likely swap Behringer Clones for actual MI modules or better clones over time.

Likely need to adjust layout for better organization / optimization.


PatternInterupt

I used to think this was one of the best modules in the game.

Then I got neo trinity... and realized not everything in euro rack has to be a complete rip off...

Knight Industry


jihel

Smart transaction with @Johangover
Solid package and module as new.
Recommended Seller !


Personally, I'd lean more towards removing a sound source than a modulation source, given you already have a good collection of synths to begin with.

Plaits is an all-time great VCO. One could argue for days, months, years about the greatest [type of module] out there, but Plaits is a name you'll see constantly in such arguments about VCOs. So I'd say keep that. Between the Surface and Ensemble Oscillator, I'd say the surface is "more unlike" Plaits, so keeping it would allow for the greatest variety. The Ensemble does do things that Plaits doesn't, but Plaits has ways of achieving pretty similar sounds (as fundamentally, they're both oscillators). Surface works on a different principle: electrical emulation of a physical resonant cavity, so it's going to achieve sounds in a pretty different space than a more "normal" VCO.

3x MIA is a great utility module. Mixer, Attenuverter, DC-Biaser. It'll find its way into many a patch in this rack.

I'm not familiar with the 3DVCA. It's certainly interesting, and sometimes modular synth can be all about embracing the journey and seeing what esoteric lands your modules lead you into. But I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how to actually use it. 4 Inputs/Outputs and 3 CVs...I get that it's somehow related to 3D space, but I'm just not sure how I'd operate it besides "put CVs in and get something different out". It's also pretty lacking in manual controls: only a shared "Level, Pan, Crossfade" for the entire module. If you've studied this module and think it can provide an interesting workflow for you, go for it. When I was recommending new VCAs, I was picturing something more like Mutable Instruments Blinds (a Ring Modulator) or a clone thereof (After Later Audio's Monocole is a 2-channel clone). Ring Modulators are basically VCAs that can go to negative gain. A "normal" VCA will just stick at 0V if the CV is negative, but a ring mod will invert the input signal.


Hey, thanks Bassman1805... I'm trying to digest everything you've said, as a lot of this is still new for me, but I ran your response through Grok and it recommended I swap out the Octasource for a Happy Nerding 3xMIA and (~~Make Noise modDemix (or similar)~~ Guess those are pretty hard to find...) a Mystic Circuits 3DVCA.

Does that sound right to you? Any better / more specific recommendations you'd make over these (trying to stay within the 12HP I freed up).

You've mostly dodged the #1 newbie mistake of "5 voices and no modulation sources" so that's good. Looooooots of modulation to be found here.

The main thing that stands out as missing is utilities: You have the one quad VCA, one mixer (though it's exponential so better for mixing audio than CV), and Maths which is a hybrid CV source/utility. Utilities let your modulation sources intermingle, giving you sounds that evolve in far more complex ways that any of those sources would give you on their own.

I'd look for what you're willing to sacrifice in order to put in another VCA module (perhaps a ring mod, so it's not just the same as the VCA you already have) and a DC-coupled mixer (for your CVs). It's a common refrain in modular synth: You can never have too many VCAs or Mixers. Some other utilities that may prove useful: Mults (Buffered Mults for pitch CV, passive mults can be replaced with stackable cables but sometimes it's nice to have an actula module for it). Logic modules. Attenuverters.

Consider replacing that RackBrute module with a powered case, or a backplane power supply. Power modules can sometimes be a little anemic (your setup is fine: only uses ~75% of the +12V rail), or sometimes couple power noise into the other modules.

Consider a "control surface" module. Something that lets you play the synth in a way other than "turn knob, push button". Joysticks, lightstrips, contact mics, ribbon controllers...Sometimes it's nice to take these very abstract instruments and make something about them a little more tactile. (A more complex MIDI-CV controller could inherit some of this from MIDI CCs, but that Behringer one pretty much only does CV-Gate)

Overall, it does look like a fun system to explore. Just giving you some ideas to chew on.
-- Bassman1805


You've mostly dodged the #1 newbie mistake of "5 voices and no modulation sources" so that's good. Looooooots of modulation to be found here.

The main thing that stands out as missing is utilities: You have the one quad VCA, one mixer (though it's exponential so better for mixing audio than CV), and Maths which is a hybrid CV source/utility. Utilities let your modulation sources intermingle, giving you sounds that evolve in far more complex ways that any of those sources would give you on their own.

I'd look for what you're willing to sacrifice in order to put in another VCA module (perhaps a ring mod, so it's not just the same as the VCA you already have) and a DC-coupled mixer (for your CVs). It's a common refrain in modular synth: You can never have too many VCAs or Mixers. Some other utilities that may prove useful: Mults (Buffered Mults for pitch CV, passive mults can be replaced with stackable cables but sometimes it's nice to have an actula module for it). Logic modules. Attenuverters.

Consider replacing that RackBrute module with a powered case, or a backplane power supply. Power modules can sometimes be a little anemic (your setup is fine: only uses ~75% of the +12V rail), or sometimes couple power noise into the other modules.

Consider a "control surface" module. Something that lets you play the synth in a way other than "turn knob, push button". Joysticks, lightstrips, contact mics, ribbon controllers...Sometimes it's nice to take these very abstract instruments and make something about them a little more tactile. (A more complex MIDI-CV controller could inherit some of this from MIDI CCs, but that Behringer one pretty much only does CV-Gate)

Overall, it does look like a fun system to explore. Just giving you some ideas to chew on.


Already saved up for this!


He needs to communicate if he for any reason at all can't ship a module. Most of us are reasonable people overhere (at least that's the impression I have ;-) and there's a multitude of ways things can be solved to everyone's satisfaction.
-- nodog

You're right man.
But there is something here i can't understand: how is that possible that someone who did 130 nice transactions starts to scam people? This looks so incredible....
I suggest, you guys get in touch with Sound Of You store. Those guys might know him well as i noticed that my Vhikk X has been sent by Sound of You (i just checked that out on the parcel as someone here asked me for).
Who knows, might he have a serious health issue or an accident? Shit happens...

Udevice


Hello all,

I am new to this forum and to modular synthesis in general. I have been generally futzing around with traditional hardware based synths + DAWS for a couple of years, but want something more generative and explorative that gets me away from a mouse and computer keyboard / DAW in favor of realtime expression. Also, I am an enginner and interested in learning more about analog sound design as a theory, the mechanics and science of it all, and how to merge the two systems (analog + digital) in a way that helps me focus on creating music / emotions / soundscapes in the moment.

I've spent the past couple of days researching modules and flows required to create generative ambient drone style music that I can integrate with my existing studio setup. I'd appreciate any feedback or advice from anyone on my proposed first rack system (see below).

But first, a few comments about myself.

  • I am a software engineer and make good money. I have the funds to buy what I want / need, but I still don't want to spend money unnecesarily.

  • I have an quasi- moderate level understanding around sound design / synthesis and connecting basic hardware / software together, but I am mostly new to modular (aside from playing around w/ VCV Rack 2 in my DAW).

  • I have no interest or delusions around "making it"... I am 52 years old with a family... I am just looking for a hobby that allows me to feel the joy of making music in a way that connects my soul to the universe and expresses who I am in the purest form possible, without all the manual tedium of software based configuration.

  • I am looking for a community open to all, with a focus on music instead of labels, and where questions are encouraged.

My current setup:
- Fantom 6 EX
- Minilouge XD
- Microfreak
- Arturia Audiofuse 16Rig
- Alesis Drum Pad
- Ableton Live 12
- Serum
- Diva
- Fab Filter
- ... (shit ton of other filters, compressors, f/x, synths, and all the tedious things...)

Proposed 1st Eurorack System
ModularGrid Rack

Hoping to make some new friends,

Josh


I have to agree that he has not the best communication. But he sends modules.
When he shipped mine on March 25. he sent me a proof on which several parcels were shown.

-- UnknownDevice

He needs to communicate if he for any reason at all can't ship a module. Most of us are reasonable people overhere (at least that's the impression I have ;-) and there's a multitude of ways things can be solved to everyone's satisfaction.


hi,

Just want to report about @sugarfreedaddy.
I bought a Vhikkx from him a couple of days ago.
He told me he bought a couple of them with some friends who run a modular store in Poland.
He took a couple of days after the payment (which i did thru paypal G&S) to send the module bur he sent it and it was really a brand new one...
The fun fact is that i told him that i almost got scammed by 2 sellers for this module who were asking for Paypal F&F.
Now, i just feel lucky he didn´t scam me...
-- UnknownDevice

Wow, happy for you. And also slightly happy he's still around so who knows. the 13 downvoters might see their modules after all.

-- nodog

I have to agree that he has not the best communication. But he sends modules.
When he shipped mine on March 25. he sent me a proof on which several parcels were shown.
About that Collide 4 "multiple sale", as i could understand he sometimes buys modules with the guys from Soundofyou when they are a bit short money, so perhaps he got more than one Collide 4 that way...

Udevice


hi,

Just want to report about @sugarfreedaddy.
I bought a Vhikkx from him a couple of days ago.
He told me he bought a couple of them with some friends who run a modular store in Poland.
He took a couple of days after the payment (which i did thru paypal G&S) to send the module bur he sent it and it was really a brand new one...
The fun fact is that i told him that i almost got scammed by 2 sellers for this module who were asking for Paypal F&F.
Now, i just feel lucky he didn´t scam me...
-- UnknownDevice

Wow, happy for you. And also slightly happy he's still around so who knows. the 13 downvoters might see their modules after all.


hi,

Just want to report about @sugarfreedaddy.
I bought a Vhikkx from him a couple of days ago.
He told me he bought a couple of them with some friends who run a modular store in Poland.
He took a couple of days after the payment (which i did thru paypal G&S) to send the module bur he sent it and it was really a brand new one...
The fun fact is that i told him that i almost got scammed by 2 sellers for this module who were asking for Paypal F&F.
Now, i just feel lucky he didn´t scam me...

Udevice


hi, i have a tesseract tex mix with stereo and mono modules. i want to add an extra mono module but the cable only has 3 connectors. Searched everywhere online. Anyone know where i can find one with 4 or 5 connectors?

thats it exactly! thank hou so much. ill give that a go. and hopefully ill not fry anything :D

thanks a lot for your detailed answer 


Pioneer123
Thread: To the World


Also scammed for a Collide4 (paid on 31/3). I've reported the crime to my country's police (I don't think it'll do much but might add up in some way) and just pm'd ratman77531.


wishbonebrewery

Now thats a blast from the past **"All your module are belong to us" ** on he rotating quote thing, back in the day when I had all of the Music/Audio software internet backed up on CD-R

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


ratman77531

Adding my experience with @sugarfreedaddy.

Purchased a Verbos Harmonic Oscillator on 31 March for €600. Payment sent directly via bank transfer after agreeing off-platform on WhatsApp. No tracking number provided. No response to messages since I paid.

I had successful transactions with him before, last in January (four modules, EUR 1,185 total, delivered via DHL from Warsaw). That prior shipment included a DHL label with the seller's full name and residential address in Warsaw, despite his ModularGrid location being listed as Berlin.

I will initiate a bank recall and will be filing a fraud report with the relevant prosecutor's office in Warsaw via email. If anyone else is filing or wants to coordinate, PM me.

ratman77531


Yes, you're right, sequencers use digital logic to advance steps, and have done so since the 1960s. But what's distinctive about Cessna's approach is that he discretized the waveform itself, encoding its shape as a table of amplitude values. That's clearly digital synthesis in the sense of constructing signals from numbers. Also, his implementation of pitch tracking was computational. But I think ultimately the distintinction between digital and analog is moot: even on analog systems, we are thinking digitally when we use on-off gates or when we use a sample and hold to transform continuous voltages into stepped ones.


All sequencers use digital electronics to move between each step of the sequence, does that make an analog synth with a sequencer "digital"? One of the most common modular synth tricks is putting audio-rate signals into inputs not "meant for" audio rate inputs, so does putting an audio-rate (or higher) square wave into the Clock In of a sequencer fundamentally change what the synth is?


PatternInterupt

Bizzare rating concidering Plaits is one of the most popular modules of all time and this version improves on its usability in pretty much every way.

people are weird...

Knight Industry


modulargrid
Thread: Change Log

What am I missing here?
-- wiggler55550

The exclusion currently only works on the description text not the manufacturer name or title

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


Thread: Change Log

Greatest new feature in a long while :-))
Though: While 'wasp -doepfer' works as expected, 'buchla -tape' still lists modules by Tokyo Tape Music Center.
What am I missing here?
Have a nice week end.


In 1965, an Iowa physics student working on satellite signals built what one person has called called "the world's first digital synthesizer." This video unpacks how James Cessna’s “Arbitrary Waveform Generator” worked, and then recreates it as a Disting NT plugin, with a space ambient track to show it in action (patch notes included).

I'm curious to see how people here would classify this strange instrument. It was digital in the sense that it builds a waveform out of discrete amplitude steps and used a digital sequencer to scan them at high speed, like later wavetable or digital oscillator designs. But it still relied on analog amplitude controls. And if it was digital, was it really the "world's first digital synthesizer"?


ukiyo_

Great job deleting the Polyend Poly Version 1 manual from you website ...

For those who like to keep using the modules they bought , you can find the manual here:
https://imagescdn.juno.co.uk/manual/667758-01U.pdf

Live Techno performances form raw to hypnotic on https://soundcloud.com/ukiyo-umai


Using VCV rack for percussions...


modulargrid
Thread: Change Log

Exclude Search terms

You can now exclude terms from the free-text search using the “-” operator.
To find filters that are not Wasp, enter:

filter -wasp

In this specific case, I’m not sure why anyone would want to do that, though.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


modulargrid

I'm wondering if it would be possible to expand this feature even more. If it's not too much to ask, I'm requesting the ability to also filter out certain text terms from the search results. For instance, I might want to search for low-pass filter modules, and exclude any results that contain the term "ladder" because I've already got all the ladder filters I need. AFAIK there's no way to do that currently.
-- aaaaaaaa

We have that now! Use it in the freetext search field with
low-pass -ladder

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


····


sibilant

This is definitely not a module: https://modulargrid.net/e/eventide-h90

It's literally a pedal. No Eurorack power, no mounting holes


There are also a few new features:
• the search now includes an exclude filter
-- modulargrid

Much appreciate this new search feature! It seems like the current inferface design only allows for the exclusion of any single module function. Now that there's some code in place for excluding certain results from a search, I'm wondering if it would be possible to expand this feature even more. If it's not too much to ask, I'm requesting the ability to also filter out certain text terms from the search results. For instance, I might want to search for low-pass filter modules, and exclude any results that contain the term "ladder" because I've already got all the ladder filters I need. AFAIK there's no way to do that currently.


duzze is a scammer, be careful.


Working great now, cheers for the quick fix!

Congrats on the redesign. Crossing my fingers that the code rework means we may get 19" rack added one of these days :)


modulargrid

When I search for modules I no longer see if they're already in the active rack or not

Say I'm following a certain manufacturer for the rack.. I filter by their name.. their modules get sorted by newest.. but I can't quickly see where I am up to on their releases. The old site used to give a count by the search result of how many of these modules I have already in that rack
-- wagoo

Thanks for the report, that should work again.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


When I search for modules I no longer see if they're already in the active rack or not

Say I'm following a certain manufacturer for the rack.. I filter by their name.. their modules get sorted by newest.. but I can't quickly see where I am up to on their releases. The old site used to give a count by the search result of how many of these modules I have already in that rack


hi, i have a tesseract tex mix with stereo and mono modules. i want to add an extra mono module but the cable only has 3 connectors. Searched everywhere online. Anyone know where i can find one with 4 or 5 connectors?


-- Nilbig

I don't own a Tex Mix myself, but I assume you are referring to this cable!?

A few things to consider:
- You have to ensure that the module actually supports attaching that many expanders to a single chain (EDIT: according to the manual (on page 2) 6 channel expanders should be ok).
- You need to make sure the pitch is correct (I assume it's the standard Eurorack 2.54mm pitch).
- If you can't find one online, you can easily build these cables yourself! It's actually quite simple and requires no soldering – you just press the connectors onto the ribbon cable with some pliers. Of course you have to double check the orientation of the connectors + red stripe. But it shouldn't be that hard as you already have a template.

Here are the parts you would need (links are from a German electronics store, but you can find these anywhere):

https://www.reichelt.com/at/en/shop/product/10-pin_idc_socket_with_strain_relief-14571
https://www.reichelt.com/at/en/shop/product/awg28_set_1m_cable_plugs_10-pol-208106


hi, i have a tesseract tex mix with stereo and mono modules. i want to add an extra mono module but the cable only has 3 connectors. Searched everywhere online. Anyone know where i can find one with 4 or 5 connectors?


modulargrid

Could it be that his account got occupied by someone else?
-- VONDENFUNKEN

No, very unlikely.

Others may have a different view, but my thinking is that anyone still waiting to hear back from sugarfreedaddy who used PayPal goods and servcies should consider opening a dispute and immediately escalating to a claim. Anyone who paid with F&F should see if they can initate a chargeback with their bank or credit card company.
-- wont

It's a diffuse situation, but at this point I recommend what @wont says.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


VONDENFUNKEN

strange, i purchased a few modules from "sugarfreedady" in the past and all went well.
I never had problems with him.

Could it be that his account got occupied by someone else?

Greetings

Chris


Slim

I had a problem with this seller, @sugarfreedaddy, quite some time ago.
This was reported here.
The situation was: I purchased a module, he did not send it. He was "unable" to send it, he was also "unable" to refund me.

I think that the situation was quite similar to what is being experienced here (with several purchasing the same module)

I talked to him via messenger. I had to insist a lot, during weeks, months. He was never "able" to refund me, but after weeks he ended sending me other modules for similar value.

I don't know if you guys will find a way to get your money back. I'm just writing this here to encourage you all not to give up.

Good luck to you all!


Unfortunately, at this point I think its safe to assume that this is not just a misunderstanding considering:

  • The number of people having issues (looks like it could be 9 or more)
  • The same module being sold to at least two people (both of whom paid) with no indication in the ad of multiples being in stock

Others may have a different view, but my thinking is that anyone still waiting to hear back from sugarfreedaddy who used PayPal goods and servcies should consider opening a dispute and immediately escalating to a claim. Anyone who paid with F&F should see if they can initate a chargeback with their bank or credit card company.


Hi guys,

unfortunatelly, I have similar experience with @sugarfreedaddy. First, smooth communication, then I payed for the module (3.4.) and since then no communication at all. Tried to write him everywhere I could (MG, email, IG), but no response. Now I see his MG accound has been suspended.

This is interesting, since I have read in this forum, that several trades were made with this guy, and some of them appeared to be flawless, and he has also quite positive feedback. I hope this is only some kind of misunderstanding.

Cheers and happy patching to everyone.


Vinx77

Vinx PER|FORMER firmware – update v0.4.0
https://vinxscorza.github.io/performer/
Performance-focused and exploratory.
The idea is to make the PER|FORMER feel more playable in a live context, while still keeping it open to less predictable workflows. What I’m aiming for is a solid machine for live performance, but also a crazy one for experimentation. The goal is not simply to add more options, but to push the PER|FORMER toward stronger creative generators, safer destructive workflows, better live interaction, and a more complete and well-documented ecosystem.


Sadly have to report a negative experience with user @sugarfreedaddy as of 04 April 2026.

Collide 4 was purchased on 25 March. Price listed in EUR and seller location in Berlin, but seller's PayPal account was set up to receive PLN. I confirmed with the seller that this was how they wanted it before sending. Paid using PayPal goods and services (thankfully) and added the agreed on shipping costs plus 3.7% to cover fees. When seller was hit with exchange fees that left them short, they insisted that I send an extra EUR 20 via F&F (actually ended up being EUR 21.99 due to my getting hit with the exchange fees this time). Because the price for the module was still very good, I agreed to do this although I did express that I wasn't happy about it due to the listing having been in EUR.

Seller originally committed to shipping the module by 27 March at the latest. When I followed up on 28 March to request tracking details they promised a new latest shipping date of 31 March. I have received no responses to subsequent follow up messages and emails since 28 March.

Update as of 07 April 2026: It's been 10 days without any response from sugarfreedaddy via Modulargrid, email, or PayPal messaging. I've escalated a claim to PayPal and will continue to share updates here. I feel very lucky to have had buyer protection in place. I was about to use F&F (which I frequently do) but changed to goods and services at the last minute due to a little doubt being raised at the receiving PayPal account expecting a different currency from the listed price.
-- wont

Oh, sadly you posted this on 4th of April so I did not know. I also purchased the same Collide 4 module on 31st of March (the module is still on their sale list!!!). I have dealt with this seller before, a year ago or smth. and everything went smooth back then, so I used PayPal F&F this time. So it looks like the seller sold the same module to several buyers consciously.

Never heard back from the guy via ModularGrid, PP messaging and emails...


As an exercise in Modular Grid, drop a quarter of those modules. (so that's 26hp to sacrifice)
Conceptualy split what's left into two, planning each half as a viable synth, whatever it does, on its own.
Now, with that newly freed space in the middle, fill it with utility and glue modules.
Adders, offset/attenuators, active multiples, submixers. Stuff like that.

--


intellijel OUTS 3U, After Later Audio Bartender V2 and Barback V2

-- TVhint

Those modules should now show up. Thanks for the feedback!

-- modulargrid

Yep! perfect!


Hello everyone !
This is my first post here as I need some advice! I’ve been using Eurorack modular synths for about a year now, and I’m struggling to achieve the musical style I’m aiming for.
Here’s my current rack:

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2860927.jpg

Here are some references for the sound I’d like to produce:

As you can see from my rack, my setup is live-oriented. I dislike and avoid modules with submenus—every module I own follows a simple rule: one button = one function.
For future purchases, I’m obviously considering the PAM. I wanted to buy The Order sequencer from 63 Studio, but unfortunately, it’s not compatible with my Doepfer power supply. I’ve also thought about the Quad Quantizer from Tenderfoots Electronics.
Looking forward to reading your advice!


I have to report this former seller @hellonwood40.
I purchased a first-model Vhikk, paid via PayPal, "relatives and friends," so yes, I'm the stupid one.
I paid for the product on April 2nd, and now he's not responding to emails.

This is the wonderful answer the scammer gave me:
"Open a dispute to get a refund!
Maybe it's too late for this talk but I'm deeply sorry :)"
perfect...


Not sure if it's the sound you're looking for, but how about a Toros Iteritas Alia (10hp)?


Hey, just annouced a week ago the release of Spice : https://modulargrid.net/e/floating-knobs-spice

In short :
- It is a 12HP quadraphonic wavetable oscillator of my design.
- 4 quadraphonic oscillator engines : Phase modulation for cross patching, regular V/oct, Scale for easy melodies and Binaural.
- gritty bitcrush.
- early access so still cheap (phase 1 sold out, phase 2 for the end of this month).

It might tick a few of your boxes, check it out and if you have question do not hesitate to reach out.