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As NoSky already mentioned, if you're on strict budget then I'd swap Maths for Abacus which is significantly cheaper.

I'd also swap Koma VCA for Behringer Four Play (clone of Intellijel Quad VCA) and add some LFOs to provide modulation, attenuverter and some multiutility module with mixer and mult.

Behringer has Four LFO (clone of Xaoc Batumi) and Steps (clone of Mutable Instruments Stages). You can also load Qiemem's custom firmware to it which will allow you to control LFO polarity and frequency range though I don't recommend it if you're complete beginner. https://github.com/qiemem/eurorack/tree/v1.0.0/stages

There are clones of Mutable Instruments Links and Kinks which are great multi-utility modules. If you're in UK BeepBoopElectronics has lot of various utility modules. https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/

https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/product/passive-attenuator/

https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/product/bonds-and-structures-links-clone-eurorack-buffered-mult-mixer/
https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/product/2hppassivemult/

https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/product/cuts-and-folds-kinks-clone-eurorack-utility-module/

I'm also not sure if you have some kind of mixer or audio interface but if not you'll need some output module to plug your headphones in. BeepBoopElectronics also has simple 2hp headphone output module.

https://beepboopelectronics.co.uk/product/2hp-headphones/

You can go with behringer abacus. the clone of maths.. much cheaper but the same

This is what I've planned so far to be my first rack. But please help I barely know what I'm doing.

I'm primarly going for a synth that can alone make vast variety of sounds but I also want to have some fun with generative music. Is this enough for generative? Do I some specific modules?

I'm already thinking of switching the MATHS for Behringer 140 because of my budjet, so over 1000€ probably would be too much.

Also is the case too small? Should I get a bigger case or choose more compact modules?

(I'm also thinking of building on cre8audio NiftyCase so theres some of the utility of you wondering)

EDITED Today, 11:11

I have the Ochd and the expander. I enjoy them quite a bit. The variety is good, and it can often act as a sort of ambient "sequencer" using the expander's triggers and the slow-stepped noise generators. The lack of knobs isn't as much of a problem as it seems. It's also a nice way to bind lots of things that aren't necessarily related and make them move together. It is also great for feedbacking into itself and making the modulation more unstable and unique. Otterly looks good too, but all these sound sources are going to be very thirsty for modulation, so getting more will be good.

Sounds like things are coming together well.
-- Zacksname

Indeed! It looks like the 0chd is not available at this time but I mailed Instruo so fingers crossed!

We've all got the bug in some way. It's why we're here. If you already have the Ringfade, then you might as well put it to use. I also have QPAS and Maths, so I have no complaints about them. Sometimes a big idea needs a big module.

I have the Ochd and the expander. I enjoy them quite a bit. The variety is good, and it can often act as a sort of ambient "sequencer" using the expander's triggers and the slow-stepped noise generators. The lack of knobs isn't as much of a problem as it seems. It's also a nice way to bind lots of things that aren't necessarily related and make them move together. It is also great for feedbacking into itself and making the modulation more unstable and unique. Otterly looks good too, but all these sound sources are going to be very thirsty for modulation, so getting more will be good.

Sounds like things are coming together well.

Hi Zachsname!

Firstly, regarding the dual xfade ringmod....I actually bought this because it was on clearance at Erica Synth's site. So hard to find? It wasn't for me. A bit big? Perhaps, but now its definitely going in for better or worse :). But really, you're right, it is a bit big for what it is, but hopefully it'll be worth it.

For sequencing, this will mostly be the KSP and the SQ-1 secondarily (I also got a Rene). It makes me a little sad that there won't really be any on board melody source or sequencer....but at the end of the day, it was a sacrifice that I think has to be for the sake of HP.

I do have a fair amount of external mixer: I have three sputnik 6 channel mixers (see ) and a small 6 channel post-eurorack standalone mixer. So yes, I got the eurorack mixer bug...one of the sputnik mixers was in the first 5 modules I bought (for better or worse). I also often use veils/cloaks as a 4 channel mixer (or 2x2 channel mixer) before offloading to a "closer to main" mixer. (And yes, I do have all of the top row modules. Old rack broke...using this as an excuse to get more HP. Why not get a large rack for everything and have even more HP? Well, I don't own a home yet so I'm trying to moderate myself until that happens...)

I do want lots LFO + envelopes and CV manipulators. You mentioned 0chd...I just found out about this module (I know, where have I been?). Does this exist yet? While I love the idea of the Otterley, this could be even better...in less HP! Do you have it yet? How do you like it? How about the expander...is it worth it? I'd love to know your thoughts...

I'll probably keep the QPAS. It is a unique filter and its stereo, though ... 18 HP :( (I would love another Maths too but 20hp! Sheesh!). So What's really up for grabs is probably Kinks + the 2HP VCA (=6HP) and then maybe Otterley vs the 0chd if that can be gotten. Oh, and I want a drum...so probably the crater as its not huge and sounds great. I have the BIA in another rack, so I wanted to try something different.

Thanks a bunch for the input!

What are you sequencing this with? Pam's? The Keystep Pro? Both?

That Erica Synths ring mod is very big for a case like this. It'll also be hard to find currently. If you know of one you can get and really want it, I can't stop you. I would definitely look at something simpler and smaller there. I'm a big fan of ring modulation as an effect that is well-suited to hardware and Eurorack, but you're trying to fit a lot of sounds and effects in a tight space, and that's space that could be used for attenuverters or something to control signals coming out of modules like the Pam's or the Pons without independent controls for all of them (I would say that's a bigger priority than more VCAs, which can be nice but is not always the best way to manipulate a signal). A module like the Doepfer A-133-2 or the Make Noise Moddemix would free up some much needed HP while still being valuable for both audio and CV processing (after all, ring mods are kind of just bipolar VCAs). I think this might ultimately be a more productive and playable setup than the Ringfade and the 2hp VCA. 2hp modules can be kind of a headache unless they're simple ones without knobs. Ultimately, it's up to you, but when I think that you already have the top row and you particularly want the other two sound sources, the Ringfade and 2hp VCA are the first places I would look to open up some room for a quality of life module like an attenuverter or switch or something else that helps you move signals and ideas through your rack.

The Otterly is not a bad choice. For 8hp, in a system this dense with sound makers and effects, an Ochd plus the expander is also worth considering (24 outputs with a good variety vs. 5 with a bit of flexibility). Either one will do fun and crazy things if you feed the one of the outputs back into the modulation input, so make sure to do that with whichever you choose.

I tend to think 1 sound source and one effect vs modulation and utilities is usually about right in terms of how to allocate space in a rack, but not everyone, including me, follows this in every rack concept. You'll have to decide as time goes on whether or not you've got the right ratio for yourself. Hopefully my suggestions either help you get where you're going regardless of whether it's the places I suggested.

You have an external mixer that can handle this stuff, right? I presume you do if you have the stuff in the first row, but it's worth asking. In-rack mixing is cool for CV and stuff, but unless you get hit bad with the special Eurorack mixer bug, I wouldn't recommend it.

I saw the video about the new Gen.2 intellijel case who comes out in maybe a month... omg.. that black one i have to buy it...

hello
I need a bit of help on a better power solution, but I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to electricity and such.

here's my issue :
I have an alm case without the 5pin thing that some moduels need like the bluebox, that I'm using. well to fix it I installed a ms4 pod power module in the case, just to run the bluebox.
this works fine, but now I have to use two power supplys (that I hate)
I would like only one cable.
can anyone come up with a solution that doesn't involve wiring stuff up my self.
the ms4 power modul have a power out (fir linking to other ms pods). I was thinking of linking from the ms4 to the alm case, but ChatGPT told me it was a bad idea.

please help 🙏🏻

EDITED Yesterday, 18:40

I'm also consider Makenoise channel saver instead of kinks + 2hp dual vca. I always wanted kinks, so this would make me miss it, but am trying to figure out what will make a better rack.

Alright. My initial rack broke (the board fried ... NiftyCase in case you're curious) so I just "had" to get a new rack. So I doubled my HP. The 84 HP on the bottom are, at time of writing, modules I don't have (yet). I really want the Collide 4 so the rest should center around that. I do have other racks (and a KSP, etc) so racks aren't in isolation here but...I do feel a rack should be a musical instrument by itself.

What do you think about my proposed bottom row? The top row I already have.

• The QPAS is more HP thank I'd like...but I'm pretty sure its the filter I want
• I found it hard to add enough clock + rhythm to the rack. I'm basically using CLK and the 4ms RCD. Not great, but HP is in demand! I thought about getting Euclidean circles, but its too big and I still need a clock :( If I could just free up 2 more HP... https://busycircuits.com/pages/alm034
• Never enough LFOs! I do have the Vampire LFO and thought expert sleepers Otterley and Stages/Steps could be as best as I can do for the space I have
• And I need a drum. Crater was the one I wanted the last time I filled up a rack.

I have the Stormnest case and the Ochd, FX Aid XL and possibly Arbhar will not fit. I bought extra long M3 screws and some plastic spacers on Amazon to mount deeper modules in my case
-- synthdadmusic

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I have the Stormnest case and the Ochd, FX Aid XL and possibly Arbhar will not fit. I bought extra long M3 screws and some plastic spacers on Amazon to mount deeper modules in my case

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If you are handy, try to make a DIY case from wood and paint it with Warnex structure paint, it ads a paint structure like a flightcase. I will sent you a good site for parts.

Thank you Cem... thats a super nice idea!

there is a problem with the case.. its to just 35mm deep... the instruo arbhar and alsp the scion are deeper... i think i have to switch to another case... any recomendations?? for a good backbag case?

It looks very sexy. If you plan to jam in the forest, place a Instruo Scion 14 HP to your rack, connect the sensor pads to a plant to trigger your modules. A deep connection with nature.

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Hey guys...

im checking for a smaller case for travelling.. To go in the mountains, forests or some walks to take it with me for playing outside.
I tought about a rides in the storm stormnest case with 2x 68hp..
i made a possible construction...
what would you add, or what would you change? I need some inspiration or other perspectives about it :)

Thank you guys

So TS to TS. Got it. Thanks for the advice!

PPW has dedicated 3.5mm TS inputs. Your Motu has 1/4" outputs. You'll need two of those outs to send both clock and run gate.
I"d recommend getting two 1/4" to 3.5mm TS adapter cables. Don't use adapter plugs because sooner or later they'll fail.

Hi all! Sorry if this is a newbie question but this is an area of expertise that I lack knowledge in. I just got a Motu M4 audio interface (dc coupled) with the intention of using the Pam Sync plugin to send clock and run signals to my Pamela's Pro Workout. I'm just not sure which cables I should get. I have been trying to find this information online and have not been able to find it. Should I be using a 1/4” TRS to 3.5mm TS cable, a 1/4" TS to 3.5mm TS cable, or does it even matter?. ALM sells both on their website but does not mention which one I should use. Expert Sleepers sells a 1/4” TRS to 3.5mm TS cable that is used for interfacing with the silent way plugin so I'm guessing I should use the same? The store I get my gear from is a 12 hour drive away so it's not a quick run to the store to return some cables if I get the wrong ones. I even called them and they didn't seem sure which one I should use either. If anyone could give me some advice on this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
-- x-minus-one

Thank you very much for the advice. I will certainly do as you suggest..

Cheers

Dean

Hi all! Sorry if this is a newbie question but this is an area of expertise that I lack knowledge in. I just got a Motu M4 audio interface (dc coupled) with the intention of using the Pam Sync plugin to send clock and run signals to my Pamela's Pro Workout. I'm just not sure which cables I should get. I have been trying to find this information online and have not been able to find it. Should I be using a 1/4” TRS to 3.5mm TS cable, a 1/4" TS to 3.5mm TS cable, or does it even matter?. ALM sells both on their website but does not mention which one I should use. Expert Sleepers sells a 1/4” TRS to 3.5mm TS cable that is used for interfacing with the silent way plugin so I'm guessing I should use the same? The store I get my gear from is a 12 hour drive away so it's not a quick run to the store to return some cables if I get the wrong ones. I even called them and they didn't seem sure which one I should use either. If anyone could give me some advice on this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Alright. My initial rack broke (the board fried ... NiftyCase in case you're curious) so I just "had" to get a new rack. So I doubled my HP. The 84 HP on the bottom are, at time of writing, modules I don't have (yet). I really want the Collide 4 so the rest should center around that. I do have other racks (and a KSP, etc) so racks aren't in isolation here but...I do feel a rack should be a musical instrument by itself.

What do you think about my proposed bottom row? The top row I already have.

• The QPAS is more HP thank I'd like...but I'm pretty sure its the filter I want
• I found it hard to add enough clock + rhythm to the rack. I'm basically using CLK and the 4ms RCD. Not great, but HP is in demand! I thought about getting Euclidean circles, but its too big and I still need a clock :( If I could just free up 2 more HP... https://busycircuits.com/pages/alm034
• Never enough LFOs! I do have the Vampire LFO and thought expert sleepers Otterley and Stages/Steps could be as best as I can do for the space I have
• And I need a drum. Crater was the one I wanted the last time I filled up a rack.

EDITED Thursday December 04, 21:32

A quick glance shows at least 6 oscillators and only one 4-channel mixer. How do you plan to route your signals?

Do you need two different noise sources?

There is a decent mix of utilities other than mixers: switches, clock dividers, s & h, slew limiter, attenuator, et al.

Personally, I'd ditch several of the oscillators in exchange for more mixers and attenuvertors.

Best of luck!!

Hi

I'm new to modular and planning my rack for live and studio. I've got an Arturia keystep for sequencing etc. Would my rack be suitable for the intended purpose?

Dean

Which semi-modular synths?

Open to suggestions. Cheers

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EDITED Wednesday December 03, 16:15

Howdy and welcome! I think that lower row is a very capable collection. As they say, "You can never have too many VCAs", so I'd definitely recommend something like that Quad VCA. That's also a cascading mixer, so you can use channel one as a single VCA and use the other three as a mixer if you wanted to (or split as 2 and 2 for audio or CV, however you'd like!). Maths gives you a bit of attenuversion, but I'd still recommend having a standalone one too. The 3xMIA or TipTop MISO are both great for doing offset, attenuversion, and mixing. Matrix mixers are also super fun, and particularly for Serge style patching they make feedback very easy and fun to control. I think that Moog style mixer is also going to be good for adding character.

I personally don't really like the layout and labelling on Frap Tools modules so my preference is for Maths, but both are extremely powerful and helpful in learning concepts of voltage in modular.

So overall, you've obviously done your research and have a nice balance of modules selected in that bottom row, but would absolutely recommend getting an additional offset/attenuverter/mixer and the quad VCA. Knowing you already have the minibrute, I'd recommending getting the Maths, Wogglebug, Step 8, and Quad VCA next and play around with those. After that the Bifold is the least redundant with what you already have, and when you're ready for new sound sources move on to getting the rest of that audio path.

Cheers friend!

hi everyone!

I'm coming to you because I'm a little bit desesperate.

I'm very new in the modular world and i dont know any people who knows about.
I'm watching videos, looking information as i can on internet but it's really hard to understand everything like that.

I have a arturia minibrute 2s. i plan to make a system around him first and maybe on the future, i could leave him and stay full modular. But for now, he's my hub. i would like to make a Serge/Buchla-oriented synthesizer.

I bought the 6u rackbrute, the alm pamela pro workout and a doepfer a151. I played with these modules and enjoy it. now i want to go further.

i already know what i want as an instrument. i dont really need advise for that but i would like to know the viability of what i plan to do.

this is a system that i could consider :

the lower part is about the modules i really want and the upper part is about some ideas that could solve some problems.

i dont want to buy everything now like a crazy. I'll go step by step. but i like to plan and for that i need to understand how it's work.

My question is the following :
Does the lower part represent a realistic system?

i dont think that the selection of module is bad but this is the domain where I'm bad. i dont know if I'm going to run out of utilities. what's the real need of utilities for this combination of modules? maybe a matrix mixer could be nice? maybe a quad vca is absolutely needed? my mixer is it enough ? is it good? maybe i need more utility like attenuverter, offset or something else...?

then if someone can give me some advise about how i can make a system like that work , i would be very grateful.

ps : i put the falistri frap tools on the upper part because I'm hesitating between math and falistri. if someone have a opinion about the relevance of one or the other with the idea of my system, tell me.

EDITED Tuesday December 02, 22:47

Feature request: Rack grouping, to edit/view groups of racks as a complete system on a single page (and ideally be able to edit the order/layout in which the racks are shown). This would be helpful for planning out multi-rack studios.

Right now I could open multiple browser windows and view multiple racks that way but there is no synchronization of module usage information that way, which is difficult for planning layouts where I want to ensure all of my owned modules are utilized but not accidentally placed twice across the whole system.

Currently I resort to creating one giant rack in MG to represent all of the separate physical cases, so that I can see module usage info for the system as a whole. This has its own limitations/frustrations however. For one thing, it constrains me to viewing everything in a vertical orientation, which is not efficient for screen real estate and annoying to keep scrolling up/down. There is additional frustration due to differeing case widths, since all rows have to be same width in MG. So I have to set the width based on my widest case, then add a bunch of blank panels for the other rows which is cumbersome and finnicky at times.

edit: On the topic of accurate module utilization tracking, it would be nice to be able to track quantities in my "collection". I own multiples of a lot of different modules, and right now I just keep track of that in my head or sometimes go do a physical count to double-check if I can't remember if I have 3 or 4 of something etc. Then when viewing/editing a rack/group, it would show something like "3 of 4" placed.

EDITED Saturday December 06, 13:46

Thank you very much for your response and your insightful advice; it indeed seems wise to test, via VCV Rack, a setup that includes modulators and an attenuators.

jerome

Howdy! This will work in that it will make sounds, but in my opinion it might get a bit static and boring without some more support. As it is, the only way to vary the timbre of the oscillator and sound of the effects is to manually turn knobs, but if you want to have a drone playing while you play other instruments and want it to stay interesting you'll need some forms of modulation. If you want to stay in the Behringer ecosystem, I'd recommend the Four LFO and Abacus, as well as a quad VCA and an attenuator or attenuverter. The attenuator is particularly helpful with the Skies since the CV inputs don't have input attenuation, and the sounds can get pretty wild if density, size, and texture are getting wide swings in value. The Abacus has 2 dedicated attenuverters in addition to attenuators on inputs 1 and 3, but you'll likely want more. Things like the Mutable Instruments Veils and Shades also cascade the outputs when they're not individually being used so you can get interesting combinations of voltage. You'll also need a rack to hold the modules and a power supply. Something like the TipTop Happy Endings Kit or the 4MS Pods are great for small setups, but I'd recommend something like the TipTop Mantis to accomodate expansion.

Maybe the best advice I can give you before you buy anything is to play around in VCV rack. It's totally free and has digital equivalents of many hardware modules, including the Brains and Skies (I think they're the Audible Instruments Macro Oscillator and Texture Synthesizer in there), and you can get used to the modular workflow to decide if it's for you before you make any big investments. Cheers friend!

EDITED Tuesday December 02, 15:11

To be frank, all the AMSynth modules that look cool to me may as well be mirages. I never get to own any.

Profi Modul, sehr schönes design. Sehr gut durchdacht. Spitzenklasse.
Es bringt mega viel Spaß

would be fancy if it was 10 years ago, now its just the same old gold design with zero innovation with a clickbait to sort by price, i never liked this company from the beginning, look at xaoc, make noise, ssf, and this same old 20hp gold oscillator of the most mundane sounds

just add an output with Befaco OUT V3
Output Interface and Headphone amp

Void has been gone/inactive for a year or so now.

I bought a mixer that never shipped over a year ago. At 1st got some communication but then it went dark.
Not sure what happened, hope the person is ok but the site etc. is dead for a while now.

Hey guys,

i'm quite new on modular sound design.
I have been practising live instruments (piano, guitar, bass) since many years.
Playing in a live band, i want to add a modern and new layer of dark ambient tone.

My requirements are :
- input for external midi sequencer/keyboard (MC101 Roland) and clock
- output to the console mix
- good tones but not too expensive.

What do you think of this setup ? does it works ?

Many thanks for your support

regards

jerome

very interessting Module !

What has happened with Void Modular ?

A test case to see if i should just buy an all in one solution

or continue with smaller portable cases

They are in

As per the title, the Syntesla modules should be added since the store is online

Hi Guys

I add my Mother32 into a eurorack case.. what kind of effects would you add to it? Is Make Noise mimeophon a good choice for the M32? or is something like fx aid pro better for it?

Whats your prefer?

What about a Zoom Live Session with a couple of Modular Guys ?
Or in a Whats App Grouß with Vision. iam lokated in Hamburg Germany.
if you are interessted, send me PN.