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I'm considering creating an internal rack connection between the WMD Performance Mixer MKII expander slots and the 8TR recorder, but I couldn't find any photos of the back of the unit anywhere.

I figured ModularGrid is the perfect place to share exactly this kind of information. In case anyone else is curious about what the back looks like, here is a picture:

Additional Note: Please keep in mind that the WMD PM MKII uses a 2mm pitch header, while the 8TR uses the standard 2.54mm (0.1") pitch headers. You'll need a custom adapter or specific cabling to bridge the two.

It's like a guitar player goes to a Jimi Hendrix show, goes home, and can't figure out why his music doesn't sound as good as Jimi

@Tyrion88 is a scammer
@modulargrid maybe suspend this account before more victims are made, I see another bad review already.
-- RoelW

@LeMecSousTonLit doesn't respond any more.
-- Labyrinth100

I suspended both. It's depressing.

@LeMecSousTonLit doesn't respond any more. Tried to make a payment for an LxD (still listed and available) via paypal friends. paypal thinks it's a fraud and wouldn't let me do the transaction. I told LeMecSousTonLit, (also asked for an alternative secure payment option) - no answer since. This was already 3 days ago.
Paypal address was @priil342.

EDITED Yesterday, 11:34

I remember watching a video on youtube about the auditory illusion thing they do with rythms, where it sounds like it's constantly speeding up/slowing down, despite staying the same tempo. It the rythmic equivalent of a Shepard Tone. Unfortunately I can't find the video now, but I'll link it if I do.

Otherwise Pam's should have ratcheting and bouncing ball envelopes, no? You can also (self)patch lfos or envelopes to its CV inputs and have that control clock rates or divisions of certain channels. If you have a looping envelope with EoC/EoR out in your rack, you can control the rate of that and get all kinds of wonky swings and bursts. There's probably still plenty you can do to fuck with the timing and groove even with your setup, you just have to think outside the box. Like if you have an oscillator that goes into lfo/subaudio, use the square out as a clock/trigger source, then sequence that.

@Tyrion88 is a scammer, paypal account is Volkmar Engel (username VolEngel), phone number +49 176 89735856 (business account on whatsapp), email miloo040922@gmail.com (username Nilo). I think all names and contact methods are fake in the end, there's a not just one person in Germany called Volkmar Engel, so every possible link is a dead one.
Starts out with decent communication, sends pictures of module, promises to send packages tomorrow. After payment no more answers.

Update: I made a fake account, asked for availability of another module, just to test if he's still active, and he is responding to that account. So 100% a scammer. He used the same email and phone number, but other paypal account: Tobias Engelhardt (tobias9342/tobias8engelhardt354@t-online.de).

@modulargrid maybe suspend this account before more victims are made, I see another bad review already.

EDITED Yesterday, 09:58

The old fashon way. iron saw and file.

@Niemandsland

Dang! looks really good, thanks for posting this. i love how you just used sidespace. looks like 6hp vertial mounted rails on the side?! thats awesome
how did you cut the inlets on the back so precice?

I had the same idea for my travelcase, Works perfect if you get the measuring precise.

Hi,
I got in contact with user @charlente yesterday about a good price Vhikk X. PayPal wouldn't let me make the F&F payment for some reason
-- blaaank

Profile did not look good indeed, I suspended the user and deleted the offers.

Beware, @tiltedtension has some false advertisements listed and is scamming folks here. Prices very low, and I should have known too good to be true.

They will not respond to any messages since payment was made and have not sent me the module I paid them for. They have also listed more advertisements for sale since.

User @MrZakCloud may also be this same seller.
-- OKOKOK

Hi,
I got in contact with user @charlente yesterday about a good price Vhikk X. PayPal wouldn't let me make the F&F payment for some reason so the user gave me another PayPal address (tiltedtension808@outlook.de), so maybe beware of this user too...

@geometry dash meltdown Wow, this DIY Eurorack plan looks like a game-changer! I'm really impressed by how detailed the layout is. Have you all considered incorporating any specific modules for unique sound textures?

Add DFAM-Thing (Euro)-Version from Serendipity? ( from Ken Wessens )

I went to an Autechre show recently, and I got the idea that I could to make something similar on the little modular. Wellllllllll, as it turns out, no. But I did make this.

Out of the rack a PO-12 is doing the basic drums, and I have Bastl Thyme+ on a send (aka 2hp mix) for ambience. Otherwise I took seven channels of Pams and three AD envelopes (triggered from BSP) and plugged then into pretty much every place possible on both BIA and Crust. (Via a bunch of switches, mults, and attenuators.)

I think what it lacks (as an Autechre track) is the speeding-up slowing-down rhythms they like to do. Not sure how to achieve that in this rack. A VC switch and/or a clock multiplier would help.

Hi,
i am building my first diy case,
84hp 4u, and have some questions.
Particularpy i wonder why i didnt see so often that people just use the side of a rail for sliding nuts to mount a case.
i found a custom manufracturer for cheap aluminium u profiles that can be customized exactly so they basicly just need some holes drilled on the edges to be mounted to the side of the rails.
in theory that would be quite practical. just cut lasercut sidepanels, mount the rails, mount the u profile - maybe with some additional angle to also mount it to the sidepanels - but thats it and sounds super easy in theory.
am i missing something why i don't see tha so often?

attaching screenshots.. the aluminium u profile can be for example 2 or 3 mm

EDITED Thursday March 05, 09:19

few general recommendations:

for any genre/subgenre anything to do with industrial, i'd definitely
include a (lofi/semi-lofi) wavetable sound source. for sequences, leads,
drones etc. my goto choice for this are:

piston honda mk1 and mk2. latter much easier to find. mk3 is powerful,
two osc cores etc, but unfortunately has audible inherent slew, when you
drive fast pitch sequences.

also, adore the sound of xaoc berlin/jena combo. somewhat expensive but
has that beautiful archaic 8-bit ppg vibe.

feed that into a nice, edgy filter like manhattan ma35, erica polivoks
or something of rolandish or 3320 variety.. gstorm jp6, sh101, pro vcf etc.
and off you go...

also, i'd suggest having few different flavors in your distortion/drive palette.
my favorites are:

bj mimosa stereo (or mono: lila) - hi voltage tube drive/saturation
eowave germania 241 mk2 - germanium vca/drive
ryo opdodist - vactrol based drive

cheers

A soundscape demonstration of DIY Rob Hordijk's Benjolin module using a 1 note Westlicht Performer sequencer in drone mode.

All Soundscape sounds are from the Benjolin module, bass drum from the DIY Mutable Instruments Peaks.

Added a little reverb and delay for effects. Great module for those weird Alien, Drone and Dystopian Cyberpunk type landscape ...

the most recommondations would be a bit expensive.

I like for sounddesign:

Befaco Oneiroi: as looper, fx processor - combines delay, resonator, delay and more

Befaco Noise Plethora - digital noise source with analog filters

Bastl Dark Matter for industrial feedback and rhyrmically modulation

Mimeophon for delayed Feedback and Karplus Strong

Make Noise Spectraphon to alter spectral character of sounds

Qu-Bit Aurora Spectral Reverb - adds a special spectral effect

Schlappi Angle Grinder - as filter, waveshaper or vco

Benjolin V2 - as multimode filter filter and sound design tool

Rabbit Hole Apollow View - for Tube Saturation / -distortion

schlappi BTFLD

Plasma drive - erica synths / game changer audio

Koszalin Xaoc Devices

OpticShifter Teia

SMEAR Smoothie Audio

Beware, @tiltedtension has some false advertisements listed and is scamming folks here. Prices very low, and I should have known too good to be true.

They will not respond to any messages since payment was made and have not sent me the module I paid them for. They have also listed more advertisements for sale since.

User @MrZakCloud may also be this same seller.
-- OKOKOK

Unfortunately I seem to have been scammed by @tiltedtension too. Obviously he has refined his methods because this time the price was "good" but not "suspectibly good". After I was naive enough to send payment: silence. After several messages from me asking for a tracking number that he had promised I got a reply with excuses and then again: silence. Meanwhile he is posting more modules for sale in the marketplace for low prices, obviously to scam more people here before he get banned. I also noticed a newly created (obvious) fake account giving him positive feedback. Don't send any money to this account or to the PayPal address tilted.tension@gmx.de.

Is the build for Batumi really open source? I'm inclined to say false.

Support Xaoc.
Support working class electronics.
-- dohma

Batumi is absolutely NOT open source. This is intellectual property theft.
-- Sedalus

That’s what I thought. Can't believe these clowns.

-- DMSound

Batumi firmware is under an MIT license, which allows you to copy or modify it.
I just hate misinformation.
-- Asrafiel

only the firmware, but not the UX, symbols, and hardware - which is what they have copied

I enjoyed the one I once owned too.
as mentioned especially the inbuilt mutes. but happy nerdings stuff is just the best when you're building a compact system or short on space, definitely slept on.

there modules also offer the most flexible options in eurorack for base utility like mixing.
the Mia especially opened up more intresting modulation options then i could achive before, and turned quickly into one of the most important modules in the rack.

I really enjoyed my Mixup, it was the first mixer I bought, a great little mixer with good options for a smaller system.
Happy Nerding are, overall, well priced and great modules.

FYI: If you're looking for a compact stereo mixer the 4x Stereo Mix by Happy Nerding offers 4 channels in 4 hp.
Though it dosn't have mixups mutes which I confess are pretty handy, and some maybe don't like the dual pot design. (Personally I prefer it)

I don't think there's any question, that all Happy Nerdings utility mixers, including MIA, 6 MIX are around the best modules for bread and butter mixing you will find in modular world...for CV and audio purposes.

Just don't think this deserves the top spot as the best stereo utility mixer...

EDITED Monday March 02, 01:21

if your goal is primary Sounddesign, there is much missing.
in this racksize, to much modulation
(your bottom row is gone for modulation.)
the Captain O is redundant if want to process extern synths otherwize its just another modulationsource

if you dont are on a small budget and must rely on Behringer stuff, there are other incedible options, at least for the Sounddesign part.

You may focus on either junction or abacus or the doepfer adsr and drop the rest.
same for waves or four lfo.

the sounddesign capabilities of this rack are very limited.

you may look for modules which combine several ways to process audio in one, like waveshaping, saturation, filtering, delay, feedback and so on.

Also a nice filter for pinging.

if you want to go the low budget route, you may get a much bigger rack for the big sized behringer clones.

but I would invest in 1-2 more high quality modules for Sound-Design.

like Malstrom Wyvern (Filter+ Saturation) or intellijel Sealegs Delay, reverb, saturation)

-- VONDENFUNKEN

Thank you so much! So if I understood correctly, you recommend centering on a single function generator module, add another filter beyond Swords, maybe going for a larger case (like those Behringer go ones I understand?), and add modules that expand the rack's sound design capabilities. Is there anything you recommend besides Wyvern or Sealegs? Thank you so much!

Limited high-quality audio output processing, No Sequencer, Missing Texture space. Can use more VCA (random, chaos), distortion, Bit-Crush, FX, Stereo/multi-output for monitoring and capturing better quality.
-- jaflux

Much appreciated!! Are there any modules you recommend for those uses? I'm specially intrigued about texture and the lack of good audio outputs. As for the sequencer, I intend to use this system with a couple of Korg SQ-1s, but I'm definitely interested in something like a Steps/Stages.

Great-thank you kindly for your help!

Hi JNH-83,

Did your case include a Konstant Lab BoardPWR power supply?
If yes, the recommended pairing is the Meanwell GSM60A18-P1J.
https://konstantlab.audio/shop/power-brick-60w/

Cheers,
Cliff

Hi all,
I have two Mean Well bricks for Blackhole Cases that I mixed up while moving. They're different specs:

a). GST40A12-P1J, 12V-3.34A, 40W max.
b). GSM60A18-P1J, 18V-3.33A, 60W max.

I have the 104 HP version.

Can somebody please check their 104 HP case's power supply and tell me their specs?

Thanks.

This is a beutifully made panel, that looks stunning, credit where credits due.
I also have this style panel on my Pam's Pro and it's also lovely!

The same cannot be said for most of mork modules other black panels which leave a lot to be desired.
black in my opinion is not bluey grey, they look like they've been printed with a cheep ink jet.

For the price mork charge this is unacceptable!

Beware, @tiltedtension has some false advertisements listed and is scamming folks here. Prices very low, and I should have known too good to be true.

They will not respond to any messages since payment was made and have not sent me the module I paid them for. They have also listed more advertisements for sale since.

User @MrZakCloud may also be this same seller.

EDITED Tuesday March 03, 13:12

hi everyone,

i wanted to get some advice on my current eurorack setup. this is my first euroack build and it's a hybrid with a digitakt 2 which i use for sequencing, clocking and drums. i wanted to use this hybrid setup to make ambient and also techno music, but also to sequence and control visual art from touchdesigner using a CV to MIDI converter. i like using it as a hands on performance instrument as well as using generative techniques

the one thing i think that im missing is more modulation, but im thinking whether or not i should switch out the m32 for the moog labyrinth or just more modules like quadrax or another sequencer in the 60HP space. does anyone have suggestions? any advice is appreciated:)

Converting everything (twice) is overcomplicating things imo. Just get a blokas midihub, process midi coming from your synth and send it back out as cc's. You can f.i. generate random values on every incoming midi note. Just keep in mind: midi will never be as smooth as cv. If you really wonna go with a module, check ORN8 (O_c Teensy4.1 running Phazerville). Full midi support.

"everyone who owns the module gets the exact same rhythm. No internet connected needed."
Two of these should get out of sync sooner or later. Might be interesting to connect them through some logic
and see what happens ;-)
Edit2: Um, will possibly take too long to be of interest.

Edit:
its home page says this:
"note: in order to set the clock, you need to download a fresh copy of the firmware. When you download the firmware, the current time is embedded inside of it which is copied to the module when you boot it (so don't wait more than a minute or two after downloading the firmware to upload it to the module."

So the time is actually stamped into the firmware when you donwload it, interesting.

EDITED Feb 28th, 10:53

I want to augment a poly synth with more envelopes over midi. My idea is to convert polyphonic midi data to just a series of cv gates (probably with the rk-006). Then I need some AE module to take those gates to trigger a sequence of gates. The sequence separate outs, so that they are polyphonic, will go to maybe 4-8 separate envelopes. These envelopes will be converted to midi cc with the CVMx module and my midi poly synth will have more envelopes than it did before.

I've looked at the sequencer modules for AE modular and the I've looked at the IMDI poly conversion chain. While the IMDI would probably work, I don't need the other data (pitch, bend, etc) and would be less modules if the sequencer method could work. But I'm not quite seeing the best sequencer module for the job. What module am I looking for?

Power draw for this module is:
160 mA +12V
4 mA -12V
0 mA +5V

I have pretty big hands and have no issue tweaking the knobs. Just gotta place it in a sensible place in your rack where it isn’t up against other modules knobs. Anyway, fantastic sounding filter that screams in resonance. Super happy with it.

Absolutely love this module...great idea,well executed,,fair price too...loadsa fun,,100%.

This poly configuration is made on the NiftyKeyz

if your goal is primary Sounddesign, there is much missing.
in this racksize, to much modulation
(your bottom row is gone for modulation.)
the Captain O is redundant if want to process extern synths otherwize its just another modulationsource

if you dont are on a small budget and must rely on Behringer stuff, there are other incedible options, at least for the Sounddesign part.

You may focus on either junction or abacus or the doepfer adsr and drop the rest.
same for waves or four lfo.

the sounddesign capabilities of this rack are very limited.

you may look for modules which combine several ways to process audio in one, like waveshaping, saturation, filtering, delay, feedback and so on.

Also a nice filter for pinging.

if you want to go the low budget route, you may get a much bigger rack for the big sized behringer clones.

but I would invest in 1-2 more high quality modules for Sound-Design.

like Malstrom Wyvern (Filter+ Saturation) or intellijel Sealegs Delay, reverb, saturation)

Limited high-quality audio output processing, No Sequencer, Missing Texture space. Can use more VCA (random, chaos), distortion, Bit-Crush, FX, Stereo/multi-output for monitoring and capturing better quality.

I'm very excited to announce the FlatSix Modular Shroud Of Turing.

It's been a long road trying to make it a reality, but this latest entry into the Nocturne Alchemy Platform is live. If you have any of the other modules, you can simply flash the firmware from the website, and you are good to go. The inspiration behind it is the Music Thing Modular Turing Machine (Thanks Tom!) which I have long been a fan of. In fact it was one of my first few DIY modules and I have two fully expanded ones in my own rack. It takes that concept, but adds in a keyboard-based quantizer, with 6 slots to save the scales you come up with on the fly. It also has a manual reset, sequence rotation, and bit manipulation so you can sculpt the sequences you find into something even more inspiring. I find it a lot of fun to play with, and I hope you all do too. Cheers!

You're still not really clarifying anything about your use case...Yeah, if you want to make music you want rhythm and melody. That doesn't get us any closer to recommendations that meet your intended workflow.

Are you intending to play this alongside other instruments? Do you have any kind of controller you wan to use with it (eg MIDI keyboard, drum pad, ribbon controller, etc)? Are you trying to make something that you'll live-interact with, or something more generative that you more or less set up and let it run itself? Do you want to program in a melody, or "discover" melodies from a random source?
-- Bassman1805
No other sources for the final track will be eurorack format! I will record the output into a multitrack software editor and work with audio files there... or Live ...using Warping! I have midi controllers around...now the live interaction aspect depends on the specific nature of that voice/osc...the voices im interested in, are not traditional mono signal with clear frequency osc ..so it requires a different approach..maybe in between live interaction and generative. But im not here for the artistic aspect..( i know what i have to do there :) ) it's more for productive exchange of ideas!

You're still not really clarifying anything about your use case...Yeah, if you want to make music you want rhythm and melody. That doesn't get us any closer to recommendations that meet your intended workflow.

Are you intending to play this alongside other instruments? Do you have any kind of controller you wan to use with it (eg MIDI keyboard, drum pad, ribbon controller, etc)? Are you trying to make something that you'll live-interact with, or something more generative that you more or less set up and let it run itself? Do you want to program in a melody, or "discover" melodies from a random source?

here´s it´s in a rack.

Version 1: Clank as sequencer + Pams for modulation
Version 2: Jam-friendly turing maschine setup

but ....

if you are really just starting, dont focus on small mini setups (before you know that this exact what you want)
Get a mantis case and start exploring a standard synth voice
or build a utility rack and combine it with a semi modular desktop synth

this special voices like vihkkx or plasma voice are special stuff
maybe not the best to learn and starting out

and if you only want to do sequencing without much modulation and modular workarounts, then it´s probably better to get a used Oxi One or something which fits on the desk.

Me personally like mini setups for special purposes but it´s mostly quiet hard to do them and very expensive for that special individual concept.

If a standard desktop synth can do what you want and maybe also has sequencer and modulation - it´s mostly easier and less expansive.

This rack here will cost like 1500 € - You could also get a nice high end desktop synth for it. (Just to mention)
-- VONDENFUNKEN

True...it's just their sound timbre ( of these two special osc/voices) is so special...not sure if there is a dedicated noise synthesizer that offer those specs ( maybe close to it , yes...). So these small systems will basically be the background in a larger recording ...or track build up...no midi involved ...just audio ! Thank you for your systems! I like for example Newfangled audio generate...but i kinda want to stay away from software , if possible!

Plasma voice looks way cooler than it sounds and it's a one-trick pony. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But if you are just getting started, I would suggest something more versatile. There are countless voices out there that can achieve that sound. I recommend Noise Engineering stuff for what you are proposing.
When you mention using external FX, I am assuming pedals, yeah? Either way, add a ADDAC200PI module and you can have access to two different FX chains with proper audio signal attenuation both ways.
Something like this combo seems to fit your request:
(

)

Cheers
-- AEROCATONE
YES!!..Noise Engineering...well ,I want all their modules ...its just with this small systems i want to add something...that maybe im not easily able to achieve in other hardware synths ( maybe software yes...Newfangled audio Generate). Id love a NE machine!!!

here´s it´s in a rack.

Version 1: Clank as sequencer + Pams for modulation
Version 2: Jam-friendly turing maschine setup

but ....

if you are really just starting, dont focus on small mini setups (before you know that this exact what you want)
Get a mantis case and start exploring a standard synth voice
or build a utility rack and combine it with a semi modular desktop synth

this special voices like vihkkx or plasma voice are special stuff
maybe not the best to learn and starting out

and if you only want to do sequencing without much modulation and modular workarounts, then it´s probably better to get a used Oxi One or something which fits on the desk.

Me personally like mini setups for special purposes but it´s mostly quiet hard to do them and very expensive for that special individual concept.

If a standard desktop synth can do what you want and maybe also has sequencer and modulation - it´s mostly easier and less expansive.

This rack here will cost like 1500 € - You could also get a nice high end desktop synth for it. (Just to mention)

EDITED Feb 26th, 18:00

Plasma voice looks way cooler than it sounds and it's a one-trick pony. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But if you are just getting started, I would suggest something more versatile. There are countless voices out there that can achieve that sound. I recommend Noise Engineering stuff for what you are proposing.
When you mention using external FX, I am assuming pedals, yeah? Either way, add a ADDAC200PI module and you can have access to two different FX chains with proper audio signal attenuation both ways.
Something like this combo seems to fit your request:
(

Cheers

EDITED Feb 26th, 17:44

I think something like this would be great. Just adding folders is probably not the most difficult thing so I'm going to scope creep the hell out of this simple request and say it would be nice if the grouping were more meaningful. Potentially even giving you the opportunity to view multiple racks at the same time.

I think adding this part to the request makes it a much more complex UX problem, but I'm sure a lot of people have multiple cases and it would be nice to have an easy way to see which modules are being used where. I can sometimes accomplish this by making one MEGA rack, but that's getting harder to do since I have 84, 89, and 104 width racks.

Having an option to group rack in the command center and view them all at once would be nice, but I think adding an option to share modules across a group would be nice. Maybe you can make a folder in Command Center and select "logical" or "real" where "real" will show module counts across the whole folder and "logical" just groups them for organizational purposes.

Even if that is just too much to make work cleanly, I still like the idea of just folders for grouping. I like to keep some record of historical setups from time to time. It would be nice to have a "2025 summer/fall" folder and "2026 winter/spring" folder.

Does this also apply for DIY modules? The shop/store criteria won't really fit there, but there are folks out there who provide open-source layouts for free - and I'm not talking schematics only, but ready-made Gerber files to have a decent module made. While HAGIWO, for example (as a well-known and highly represented creator of module designs) wouldn't qualify as he's building perfboard mostly, his schematics have frequently been incorporated in PCB-based modules, so I'm suggesting to add those, as the entry barrier in DIY is significantly lowered there, compared to providing schematics and code only. Crediting the original author of the design should however be considered polite and common practice. Thinking about Testbild in particular, as I have added a couple of his modules recently. While he offers some of HAGIWO's modules, he's also done outstanding work on his own, building something what he describes himself as a Maths clone without using their documentation, based on VCS designs from Voxmachina. So, while he's not selling anything, he should somehow be represented in some form IMO.

EDITED Feb 26th, 10:29

Thanks for your input Chris! I want to stay inside the pod and ill def check ClanK!

I have external effect processors, so basically you'll go with the clank and plasma in this 48hp?

( i know i bring limitations with this rack size ...but i feel i need to start basic and focused ...being a newbie in eurorack!)

Maybe you can upload your take on this 48 hp with plasma, clank and befaco output. Appreciate!
P.