Greetings Modular Maestros :)

Any advice or feedback on this 104hp 7u performance techno rack? https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_3073256.jpg I’ve given this quite a bit of thought and research but I’m still relatively new to modular and would be grateful for your expertise.

I’m making techno using Elektron hardware (deep/minimal/hypnotic) in a Hypnus records direction (warpy synths, lots of organic percussion and ‘tribal’ hand drums sounds, only a few harmonic elements, kick, HH, sub-bass). I’m now gradually adding more modular into my workflow and after playing with 62hp for a while am now step-by-step adding modules to 7u 104hp.

My plan is to use my Elektron Octatrack as final mixer / performance looper + my Elektron Tonwerk as FX processor/additional textures/some percussion.

Currently envisaging these modular elements/voices :
1. Kick (BIA)
2. Bass (Intellijel Atlantis)
3. Synth voice / harmonic leads (Instruo Neoni + WMD C4RBN)
4. Plucks / bells (Rings + MS-22)
4. HH (WMD Clutch)
5. Perc 1 (Sample drum )
6. Perc 2 (Sample drum )

  • Other Pads / noises / textures / weird sounds (Tonwerk + Tonwerk sampling the modular)

I reckon most FX and Midi to CV sequencing can be done by the Elektron boxes, so haven’t included sequencing or FX in the modular.

In terms of routing, I am wondering whether to add a performance mixer with 2 x Sends (e.g.Boredbrain Xcelon). Not sure if Xcelon would be overkill for this setup but would be nice to have the two stereo outputs. For example, one stereo out going to the Octatrack (bass/kick/synth) and the other going to the Tonwerk (for drum bus). The OT has 4 inputs and TW has 2 inputs.

My aim is to develop this into a performance setup, with elements of live modular improvising, but pre-recording some elements into the Octatrack i.e. leaning heavily on Octatrack looping and sampling to pre-record elements.

I'm trying to work out of this all fits together and how to use the remaining space. The case is Befaco 104hp 7U. I'd really appreciate any thoughts:

  • Anything look a bit off about the setup?
  • Ideas for filling the remaining HP?
  • Should I invest in a good performance mixer like Boredbrain Xcelon , WMD Performance /Channels, Nano Performance, ALA Bartender , Cosmic Pro, Erica synths drum mixer (this mixer could replace my existing Instruo Carn, or maybe go alongside it with one of them could handle Drum submix)

Thank ye!


Jockl

ModularGrid Rack
An update for improved stereo processing.


Hi all,
I am a totally blind user, relying on a screen reader.
I'm building my first eurorack setup and would really love to create a modulargrid version so that I can share it out with others.
This is sort of usable, but it's a bit tough. I'm curious if there's a chance that I could help work on this to make it accessible (I'm fluent with python/php/javascript) or if people here are open to suggestions.
Here are my ideas just starting:

  • add a role of h2 to all the module titles in search results; this will make it faster to view.
  • When adding modules, it would be really helpful if there was a "row" combobox that was bounded from 1 to max rows, so if I click add and I'm on row 2, I can add it to row 2 (right now, I can only make one horribly long row)
  • Can you add the module name to the alt text of a module? This would make it easy to view. Maybe even (hp) at the end so you know how many hp the module is?
  • The following won't change the appearance but will make this navigable by table:
    • The enclosing container is a div with id of restraint. Add role="table" to this.
    • The rows are a div with class grid-row. Add role="row" to this.
    • for cells, add role="cell".
  • A switch in the module build to make modules focusable. This would add tabindex="0" to the module images. Then you can focus on it and use the keyboard commands.
  • Some way to select a slot (if I have module A and B and move B to the right, I might want to add a blank panel here.
  • Where you have icons (like on the "add" links, for example, consider adding an aria-label like aria-label="add", which will announce the link as what it is. Right now they read as questionmarks.

These would make this much more usable.
Thanks,


modulargrid

hello, about that redesign, i am unable to reach the delete hover "btn-group-vertical module-edit-btns" on 1u rows, unless its the left-most module. i worked around via hotkeys but this is new since revamp. cheers
-- poepoe90

I have uploaded a change that willl hopefully fix the issue. Thanks for reporting!

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Hello,
If one device is going much faster than the other, it could be an issue of their PPQ (pulses per quarter note) settings being different. It sounds like maybe the Beatstep has a higher PPQ than the Pam's, so the Beatstep it outputting the clocking pulses faster than the Pam's is expecting them at any given BPM. For example, if the Beatstep is outputting 24 PPQ and the Pam's is expecting 6 PPQ, the Pam's would have a BPM 4X faster than the Beastep. I hope that is helpful!
Edit: I should add that the PPQ settings should be adjustable within each device. They're generally not permanently fixed parameters on modern devices. So you would just have to adjust the settings so that the PPQ matches between the two devices.


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Guess I switched timelines or something because when I opened up the site I was actually still logged in! I jest. Thank you for your hard work, it looks great!


martin-krzywinski

Hey there. Contrats on the palette case.

The module is supposed to be 8 hp but perhaps front panel width varies a bit.

I'm going to measure mine and get back to you.

Martin Krzywinski
art + science
http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca


korhanerel

Thank you! It looks much better and seems to not move modules around (or out of the case) randomly. However, the "keep me logged in" feature doesn't work on my computer. It worked just fine in the older version.

Electronic musician, improviser, composer, sound designer in Berlin

I play the INA/GRM Atelier, a Strega, a 0-CTRL, a small case of mainly Make Noise modules, a Chromaplane, a Lyra-8, a Hydrasynth and Ableton Live in solo concerts and in bands.


hello, about that redesign, i am unable to reach the delete hover "btn-group-vertical module-edit-btns" on 1u rows, unless its the left-most module. i worked around via hotkeys but this is new since revamp. cheers


Finally finished out my palette case, but it's not all fitting.

Measured everything and my Error Instruments Radiophonic Workshop module is just under 9 HP according to the calculator.

Any idea how to change the MG listing?


The precision adder lets you switch multiple oscillators/modules up or down octaves without spreading oscillators out of tune with each other.
Flipping a switch to raise or drop an octave is a convenience compared to re-tuning with a knob, and more accurate than most active multiples.
You can also use it to transpose a sequence to another key with a second sequenced cv.

The first channel lets you ease in with an attenuator, so you can add a bit of wobble or other modulation fun to multiple voices.
Or you can use it to goose several modules a little bit into tune, all at the same time.

I guess it's value depends a bit on if you are going after playing notes 'in tune' with something else or itself.
I don't mean that negatively.
I know a lot of synth musicians don't want anything to do with that, and that's ok.

We forget after doing so much in digital, that analog is so squishy in its tuning.
The A-185's "precision" keeps combining or switching 1v/octave cv-s dead on. Really handy all the time.

--


i recently got an arturia beatstep pro. but when I’ve tried to synch up the clock of pams with the beatstep's clock, it always goes way too fast, and doesnt even synch up with the bpm! does anyone have any advice?


Doepfer A-185-2v Precision Adder
Somewhere before the oscillators.
-- noodle_hut

Can you tell me why you think this is important for this case and what does it? im to new in this stuff to understand this solution.. :)


VONDENFUNKEN

what´s so special about it?
Does the slope-control affect much?

Im also searching for a new filter and am considering Faun.
I have a BASTL Ikarie at the moment.
How is it compared to that (unless the stereo) ?
Im interested in filters with special character, timbre and also for experimental uses.
Nekyia Root Locus seems also interesting to me.

Greetings

Chris


PatternInterupt

Looks swish, and seems to be alot more responsive thus far!

Thanks for the great work :)

Knight Industry


Doepfer A-185-2v Precision Adder
Somewhere before the oscillators.

--


VCAs.


wishbonebrewery

I don't like it make it go away!!! Hahaha, actually looking good to me, smart.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


hey guys...

just one short question.. with what would you fill up the last 6hp ? :)


Hey community, just to say how I love my Faun, it's a fantastic and unexpensensive powerful filter.


but i cant delete modules from a rack on my phone at the moment
-- Lordkrud

Thanks for reporting, I have deployed a change that hopefully fixes the issue.

-- modulargrid

fix confirmed thank you


modulargrid

but i cant delete modules from a rack on my phone at the moment
-- Lordkrud

Thanks for reporting, I have deployed a change that hopefully fixes the issue.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


delgadobosso

What a nice surprise to wake up to!

No longer have to refresh the page to have a clear view of all the modules without the mouse-hover menu appearing :)


what a surprise looks good

but i cant delete modules from a rack on my phone at the moment


modulargrid

Same same, but different

We were dealing with 13-year-old JavaScript libraries - everything was creaking. Website relaunches often go wrong, but this one was necessary. With the old codebase, ModularGrid had become extremely difficult to maintain, making bug fixes and further development hard and, in some cases, impossible.

We’ve modernized the code and made some visual adjustments along the way. It’s no secret that ModularGrid is built on the Bootstrap framework, and we’ve continued to use it with the help of a designer who wishes to be called "the Ghost".

We fixed many bugs, but we’ve no doubt introduced some new ones. The good news is that they should now be much easier to fix.

There are also a few new features:
• the search now includes an exclude filter
• pedalboards can be converted from inches to centimeters

We tried to change everything without changing anything.

Here’s to the next 13 years!

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net



modulargrid
Thread: Change Log

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SwampRabbitMusicElectronics

Last item I sold on there for $500, my payout was $432. And it is impossible to speak to a human for support. There's a scammer that has a spoof website, but their AI doesn't understand what I'm trying to report.


Just got scammed by @CAROLARSEN.

Using the email address davidbern1255@gmail.com and paypal @JudithKranz843

Super friendly, said he sent the module, but haven't heard anything. Got flagged by modulargrid.


Simstrument

i second this! Reverb sucks. It may be time to create an alternative community marketplace if it doesnt already exist!


SwampRabbitMusicElectronics

I have a seventeen 17u/104hp beautiful Needham walnut rack that I would like to sell for half what I paid. Are there any market places other than Reverb?!


SwampRabbitMusicElectronics

I want to build a system with linear response oscillators. The beating and phasing changing over intervals is so much more pleasing than exponential response oscillalators. It doesn't have to be Eurorack, and DIY is a plus. Any suggestions?


This is the final form, all modules are en route to their final destination! So pumped!

Mindphaser


Recorded a Digitone 2 track today...


Thank you!
Yes i think it turned out good enough for a first attempt.
With the white finish i am still a bit sceptical, now it has this retro console look somehow..
I actually wanted to try the white finish to see what kind of colors can overpaint it nicely.
Would love some black macro pattern on top of it or an entirely new paint job..
i will experiemt around a bit and probably build a simmilar 7u case as well.


Niemandsland

hahaha I know what you mean! The best way to do it is stick something small (screwdriver) in the hole, angle the case until the nut slides against the screwdriver. put the case horizontal and then give gentle puchs against the case untill the slidingnut is alined with the hole.

your case looks realy nice!


modulargrid

Hey modular nerds, here to report @Soundmonkey.
-- xeao

I have supended the user

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


Hey modular nerds, here to report @Soundmonkey. They received the cash for 2 Make Noise modules: LxD & DXG and never answered after the money was received (approval on their end). Meanwhile saw ohter users adding thumbs down on their profile, I reached out to them and apparently also bought the same modules and never heard about it anymore as well. Here's all informations gathered to identify them:

  • Email of contact: miloo040922@gmail.com
  • First Paypal account they gave me was not verified by Paypal: algenisvidal@hotmail.com
  • Second Paypal account: bonchesrdtravel algenis@gmail.com

Be careful with this user, most wanted!


hej all,
im new here and wanted to give an update on this diy case build using custom aluminium U-profile.
So overall for doing it the first time it was medium difficulty for someone with rusty metal and wood crafting skills :)
materials where really afordable, overall maybe 80-90 euros, less if you have the building basics.
+ about 1/2 to 1 day of your time
+
Prototyping of the sidepanels was done with hard cardboard, which was super helpful to get it right...

for84 hp, 4u i needed the following materials

Custom aluminium U-Profile from online service - about 38 euro
rails- about 35 euro
cheap birkwood sidepanel ( with cutting service)
M5 and M3 screws. drillheads for aluminium and wood
beewax, wood color and
a drill

One issue that came up.is that it is easy to drill into the aluminium,
but really hard to match the sliding nuts with the screw holes
since it is completly covered by the case.
what helped was to use a torch and look through the hole
while pushing the nut carefully. but even then it is possible to have trouble fitting it!


flipper16

@modulargrid

Thanks, Serge Marketplace no longer hurts my eyes !


Thank you! There are indeed many, many, many hours of development behind this new version of Zazou.
To answer the question, there are many ways to influence the musical style. There are a huge number of parameters you can act on, and because they interact with each other, you very quickly go beyond the starting algorithm itself.

Each algorithm has its own variation parameters (between 4 and 9 depending on the model).

Each track is independent, though they can also be linked through sequences or scales, so each one can have its own algorithm and will produce results that depend directly on the gates sent to its input. For example, a combination like Walking Bass + Arpeggio + Guidetone + Julia on a pentatonic scale gives something very different from Serial + Tintinnabuli on a chromatic scale.

The sequences also have a huge influence on the musical style: with the same algorithms, you can get very different results depending on whether you use a “Blues” pattern or a “Trance Pop” pattern.

In fact, Zazou is designed as a near-infinite exploration tool. It is very far from being a pre-wired rhyme box, even though of course you can save the results of your exploration and then use them later in Pattern mode for live performance, for example.
Zazou draws on many elements of music theory and uses remarkable combinations through its algorithms, but in the end it is a true instrument in its own right, and it will produce very different things depending on the musician using it.


modulargrid

It's not any error. The only thing I did yesterday was start this post. I did shut down my browser yesterday evening. Today I had to log in again.

-- SwampRabbitMusicElectronics

I see. Just to be sure: it sets a cookie called "ModularGrid[remember_me]"
That won't work in privacy mode of the browser and also there might be ad blocker browser extensions that block that cookie?

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


modulargrid

@ExitFields
-- Khimbo

I suspended the user

Could the Serge marketplace have a clean up please, there are several suspended accounts but listings are still there !
-- flipper16

I deleted every offer of suspended users

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@Geometry Dash
Hi Gilles, the update sounds great! With all the new algorithms and harmony modes, how much control do users have to guide the generative results toward a specific musical style instead of purely algorithmic output?


Your setup is so great and minimalist! Its great what you get out of it, love your sound! The filter is a gem! Amazing rack!


flipper16

Could the Serge marketplace have a clean up please, there are several suspended accounts but listings are still there !


@ExitFields was advertising a Vhikk X for very cheap, he offered Paypal FF or banktransfer. We exchanged a few messages, he said he bought the module last August. When I replied that I'd like to have buyer's prtoection, and if possible I'd like to see the invoice, he hasn't replied anymore. He is still selling a Voltage Block for half the prize. I have no proof, but be careful.

https://modulargrid.net/e/users/view/174786