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Anyone saw Bertolt Meyer's performance at Superbooth yesterday? I was curiois about his live setup so I took pics and created his main rack here. I have to say, I'm impressed that he can squeeze 6 voices into a 2-row setup and still make it sound cool and interesting.

He was using it with a Maths, Pressure Points and a A149-2 CV converter fed with 2 MIDI CC channels from his arm. Also an Ableton Push as the brains of the setup.

It was great set and I had lots of fun vibing to the beats =)

More info https://www.superbooth.com/en/events/details/bertolt-meyer.html


Hi, it seems functional enough, but I don't see much in the way of "modular synthesis" for lack of a better word.

What's drawing you to Eurorack, or what do you expect to get out of this rack that you couldn't get out of a Digitakt plus an analogue monosynth for a third of the price (not counting the Oxi) or even a Polyend Play for half that.
-- teataine

Agreed with teataine, you have a fine synth here, but are missing out on two of the things that make modular synths so special - the ability to modulate parameters and the ability to create different signal paths on the same synth. I tend to think of my rack as a palette from which I build a new instrument each time I construct a patch. So, instead of getting modules that copy and paste what a monosynth or sequencer can do, think about things like modulators (e.g., lfos, random voltages, etc.), vcas, and utilities, and think about modules that allow for a lot of patching opprotunities. Feel free to check out my older comments, I've written a lot about utilities and planning a rack. I initially came here for advice myself with a rack plan that in retrospect would never have worked and would have left me dissatisfied with the hobby. Instead I restrained my buying to utilities and essentials until I had a solid foundation and understanding if what I was aiming for, only then branching into effects or drums or even oscillstors. Take some time to familiarize yourself with the above module types first, watch a ton of videos, and read manuals before buying. Hope that helps!


Thanks for the Reply

Ive all ready got all the Digitakt Rytm Digitone Octatrack plus synths etc but I just want to try something different be more hands on but eurorack is completely new to me so i guess im buying things blind

I want to try and build a Melodic Techno rack

Any advice help would be great

Thanks


Hi, it seems functional enough, but I don't see much in the way of "modular synthesis" for lack of a better word.

You have 4-6 channels of samples, a complete drum voice and two complete synth voices.

What's drawing you to Eurorack, or what do you expect to get out of this rack that you couldn't get out of a Digitakt plus an analogue monosynth for a third of the price (not counting the Oxi) or even a Polyend Play for half that.


Hi

What do u guys think for my Updated first Rack

Ive added the Behringers due to the cost but will swap them out if i find out that Eurorack is for me

What would u guys change if it was your Rack

Thanks


I've got the 188-2, and it's a very deep module, physically. So if you find one and decide to go this way, make certain it fits your case. You'll also need a filter to remove clock noise. I use the A-108.

Check out the A-188-1A, - 1B, -1C, -1D, -1X, and/or -1Y to see how they've split the larger tapped bbd into several smaller units with specific stage ranges.

I'm sure other BBD's exist from other companies, but that's probably a good place to start.

Best of luck!

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


Hello,

I was planning to get the Doepfer A188-2 because it has several simultaneous outputs with different delays available simultaneoulsy. However it is discontinued.

Is there any alternative? Or should I rather buy several simple (single-output) modules?

Thank you for your suggestions.



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Same for this one i think:

https://modulargrid.net/e/users/view/242374
@sajukm20


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I agree with Max that the Doepfer A1116 is probably 'more of the same' for you and therefore not that useful. There's other types of voices out there like wavetable vcos that you may enjoy for techno. But maybe you have enough voices already, in techno there's usually a limited amount of voices, and a lot of space that is filled up with effects like delays.

You mention you want to travel with this system. Eurorack can be bulky, heavy, break easily. You will have to plug and unplug everything between rides. If travel is important to you, maybe other types of synthesizers are more interesting to you. For example, Elektron devices can do much more in a much smaller space and no cables as well. I doubt you'll be happily euroracking on a train with this system on your lap.


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both semi-modular (mother + pico system) are a good starting point. Keep back in mind, that the pico-line is super-small and it can be a pain to patch and wiggle.

You are probably lacking some modulation-sources.

The Doepfer Mini-Syth is cool, but you allready have two kind of "pre-wired" voices in the rack.

Happy patching!


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Power Consumption as CSV

Unicorn users can export the power consumption data sheets of their Racks as CSV to do whatever they want to do in Open Office/Excel.

Rack Chooser on the Detailpage

You now can choose from a module detailpage to which of your racks a module should be added.
-- modulargrid

Rackchooser feature is clutch! Thank you!!


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Best one yet, imho!
-- Jukeshoe

Very kind of you to say...thank you.


Best one yet, imho!

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche



Project has about thirty tracks total, earlier sections having a smaller number playing at one time, until the grand finale. Some patches include a Xaoc Sarajewo delay, a perennial favorite that adds loads of character, reverb ambience is provided by Fabfilter and Valhalla plugins as well as a native Ableton one.

Just got the Rostock - figured best to grab one before our supply chains crater. Thanks for your interest & best of luck with your productions!



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Update :)
Eventually ordered a Supamix...
Needed a Path, a mixer and some random added to all that.
Should receive it soon and will get back here to update.


Hey all, made another song over the last couple of days. Enjoy ^_^

Continuous Shimmer by megoth on SoundCloud

Have been enjoying the Rample a lot these last couple of weeks, as it has provided a lot of ideas for various patches. Samples provided the foundation, but the Oxi Coral just took it away when I was jamming. I also decided to add another layer with Equator2, an excellent MPE softsynth.


OK. Maybe I’m missing something, but I deleted all the racks I had when I had an active Unicorn account, except for one 3-row 104HP rack.
Every time I try to add a module, it redirects me to the upgrade page. I’m well within the limits of the standard account, but now I’ve lost all my rack configurations and I’m a bit disappointed. I logged out to rule out a possible cache issue, but no luck.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?


Let's swap some ideas, if you like!
-- Zeta_fxn

That's a lovely idea.


I have had another think about my case and come up with this.

ModularGrid Rack

My thinking with the S.B.G. is it gives me amplification into the Morphagene if I want to plug a microphone in. Plus it doubles as a distortion unit and external FX send. I'm thinking stereo from MG into XPan plus up to four mono pannable inputs. Or I go Mimeophon into XPan? Still can't quite decide. Of course, the big losses are Pams and Gliss but I have created a second smaller case that could be used alongside this but also function as a little machine in its own right. And I still have 2hp in the SS case for a Nearness which could definitely come in handy.

Here's my little machine. It's in the Nifty Case so I also get some DAW integration if I want it. I'm thinking this might actually work, with each case independently valid but also complementary. Any feedback would be great.

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thanks for the tip. that thought did cross my mind. the fiberglass shell isnt very thick and i was already worried that inwould compromise the integrity of the whole shell by drilling a hole. i was gifted a Behringer PSU so ill be using that.

“You’ve got so many machines Richard!”


Also, a bigger and fancier mixer will not make your patches sound better. I use mostly Mixup and 3xMIA for mixing. Mixers to not make my patches sound better, but they help make them more complex--add more voices.


I have a very similar system--Rubicon/Dixie II+/Ultrafold rather than DPO, I don't have the Verbos oscillator, and I got rid of Pressure Points. I find a wealth of wonderful sounds on a regular basis. The lack of Echophon is not limiting your sound. I often start out with the oscillator (DPO in your case, Rubicon/Dixie II+ for me) and work with it and the AD envelope until I get a sound I like. If the original voice from the oscillator is not interesting, then the patch will not work for me. Then I run it thru Optomix, Mimeophon and QPAS, and start playing with modulation. I use various references for patch ideas. There are many patch ideas on the Shared System on YouTube. I use those videos for ideas even tho I don't have Echophon. Let's swap some ideas, if you like!


I like that!
Have been tinkering with the idea of square waves only, myself.
How many tracks are we listening to? Is that a feedback delay network providing the ambience in the background?


Back to your initial question: A stereo mixer that is more full featured with mutes, FX send, an EQ that is as simple as it is efficient and a low pass gate in every input, is

(Tannhäuser Gates).

Performance oriented and a good fit for a shared system I think.


It does nothing to the sound. As far as my experience, it sounds rather transparent. If you drive it hard it will distort, though. It basically arranges 7 signals in a fixed stereo panorama. Nothing can be changed, not the pan position, not even volume, it's strictly minimal. I was not sure about it being any use when I first got one. I now have at least one in every rack. It needs no learning, no thinking, just use it and you know what it will do. It makes you concentrate on your patch rather than fiddeling with your mixer. A very elegant design.


I would advise you to not drill a hole in the suitcase for your power cable but keep the suitcase shell intact for better transport (otherwise you will always have to deal with that cable) Just keep it all inside. what sort of power suply are you using. I use a 4MS one that works great with a laptop powerbank.


thanks for the info! i think what ive decided to do is get some thin wood shims and affix those to the inside of the suitcase sides with the 2 part JB Weld compound, screw the rack rails into those shims, then drill a hole in the backside of the case large enough for a power cord to easily fit through (maybe glue a rubber gasket around the hole to keep it from degrading the power cord over time, then screw my power supply onto the rack and modules and i think that should do it!

“You’ve got so many machines Richard!”


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Did not see it mentioned here, so this is my minimal solution to getting a stereo image from anything:
Nearness and
Pico Out .
Gives you 7 in stereo out mixing, earphone monitoring and line-out in 6hp.
Can't be beat for space effectiveness.
-- wiggler55550

the Nearness at just 2hp looks amazing. I wonder what it does to the sound? XPan reduces the volume, I'm guessing for headroom, but it is still clear.


Yes, for me too, super slow, cant even add modules


Did not see it mentioned here, so this is my minimal solution to getting a stereo image from anything:
Nearness and
Pico Out .
Gives you 7 in stereo out mixing, earphone monitoring and line-out in 6hp.
Can't be beat for space effectiveness.


Ofcourse the inner dimensions are: 426 x 290 x 159 mm And I managed to get 2x80HP out of it. As you can see I also used the sides another 5HP on the left and right and another 12 HP on the top. It needs some puzzeling with depth but hey it ad's another 22 hp! When it comes to glue I'm not an expert so I cant help you with that.


Yes, the site is painfully slow for me right now too.


The last few weeks Modularrgid has become unbearably slow for me. So slow in that it's become unusable. I have to wait for 30s any change, and I often time out. I have a 1 gb fiber connection and every other site does't seem affected, so I wonder if anyone else has experienced lags?


Hi - I think you're right. Probably can't have too many mixers. When I tried the Panmix I found I lost some clarity and punch but I have checked out some of your YouTube vids and they sound clear and punchy as hell. Nice work. I'm going to look at what mixers are available from my local modular dealership. cheers, and thanks again.


Hi - I think you're right. Probably can't have too many mixers. When I tried the Panmix I found I lost some clarity and punch but I have checked out some of your YouTube vids and they sound clear and punchy as hell. Nice work. I'm going to look at what mixers are available from my local modular dealership. cheers, and thanks again.


Thread: Change Log

Power Consumption as CSV

Unicorn users can export the power consumption data sheets of their Racks as CSV to do whatever they want to do in Open Office/Excel.

Rack Chooser on the Detailpage

You now can choose from a module detailpage to which of your racks a module should be added.

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I was suggesting a small well-priced mixer to help bring things together.
I have a bunch of mixers, more than VCAs
Got the Happy Nerding, PanMix Jr, 4x Stereo Mix
Then I've got the DPW Design M1 mixer and a SSF Vortices with Mutes Expander, both great mixers with the ability to colour the sound and bring a mix together well.
I also have the Befaco Output Bus which in my opinion gave my system more charity in mixing.

:)

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Just looking at your mixing options, you could really use a more fully featured mixer so, as you say, you can deal with the stereo and mono signals in one place. Somwething like a Happy Nerding 4xstereo Mix would work. You could also use an external mixer as you can get them pretty cheap on eBay etc.

Would a Mutable Marbles or a Turing machine be something you'd be interested in to compliment the Rene & Pressure Points?
Or do it externally with a Beatstep Pro etc?
-- wishbonebrewery

Hi, thanks for your reply. I think you're right that mixing is the main thing I'm struggling with. I've just created another little case with all my extras, which includes an ALM Tangle Quartet and I fed three voices into that, and also multed them, so I could have a rudimentary send and return into the stereo input at the bottom of the XPan. That left me four more inputs on the XPan for the dry signal and even then I still didn't have an input for the Morphagene. I've been toying with the idea of getting an ADAT, such as the OPTX or something from Expert Sleepers and then feeding separate signals out to my computer and mixing in the box. I'm sure this would sound a lot better but I don't know if it would end up adding yet more complexity when what I'd really like is something simple. As you say, a small mixer might be a more straightforward option and it would have the benefit of some EQ and an easy way to pipe in FX. I'll check out the Happy Nerding 4xstereo mix, although I'm a bit wary of that company. I tried the 6 channel Panmix and it had very little headroom. Wasn't a fan of the FX Aid either. Modular is SO COMPLICATED!


Just looking at your mixing options, you could really use a more fully featured mixer so, as you say, you can deal with the stereo and mono signals in one place. Somwething like a Happy Nerding 4xstereo Mix would work. You could also use an external mixer as you can get them pretty cheap on eBay etc.

Would a Mutable Marbles or a Turing machine be something you'd be interested in to compliment the Rene & Pressure Points?
Or do it externally with a Beatstep Pro etc?

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hi, I don't have a strong leaning to any particular genre. But definitely not techno or any kind of dance music. I've been listening to early electronic albums, Laurie Spiegel, Gil Melle, Else Marie Pade, Morton Subotnick... that sort of thing. I've also been enjoying albums by Benge and Caterina Barbieri. So in that sort of ball park I guess. I'd like to record some live sounds into the Morphagene then have them warble away against an atmospheric synth bed I guess. If that makes sense? I've just today removed the Brains module and replaced it with the ALM S.B.G. as I'd like to incorporate external effects. I think my real problem is figuring out how to route the sound so that it all comes together in a clean stereo signal. I'm not sure how to incorporate the Mimeophon without drenching everything in delay. Ideally, I'd have some kind of send and return but I'm not sure how to do that with the modules I have, or whether it is even possible.


Recently, a friend of mine bought an old fiberglass shell suitcase, completely gutted and empty inside. Along with the suitcase he bought a Behringer PSU. Ive already measured the dimensions and i have 85 HP @ 6U to work with. What are some of your suggestions on how I should affix the rack rails the the inside of the suitcase and how deep inset should i make it so that i can still close the case and carry it like a normal suitcase? i plan on using all Behringer modules for this build because ive already apent nearly 4 grand on my studio rack. As always, any advice/constructive criticism is appreciated.

Dimensions: 18.5"(92.5HP) x 13" tall x 6" deep![]

May i ask, what were the dimensions of your suitcaae euro build? also, what type of glue would be strong enough to keep the rails in place indefinitely, while also taking into consideration the need to keep caustic or corrosive chemicals and compounds away from the electrical components. I was considering a two part compound made by JB weld. if you have a better suggestion, I'm all ears!

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https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2725653.jpg

“You’ve got so many machines Richard!”


What type of music/sound do you wish to create? Tough to say if this is capable or not, without knowing...

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


Thread: Little Ghost

Hey all ^_^ Just wanted to share this little song I made over the week, just noodling around on my hardware synths, and then post-producing and -mixing on Live.

Little Ghost by megoth on Soundcloud

I've enjoyed going down the DAW-less route for a while, but it's always nice to combine it with the digital world and the opportunities it provide.

For those interested in the modules: I've been playing around with the factory sounds on the Rample, finding sounds that inspire me to "embellish" more sounds from other sources onto them. So to with this one. Ultra-Kick and Hats808 also helps with drums, and Solar 42f, Coral and Pluck provide additional sounds. Clouds and Rainmaker provides effects for the Coral, as well as filter and distortion from cDVCA, and delay and even more distortion from Lyra-8.


Hi folks,
I have a tweaked Shared System that I am finding it difficult to gel with. Main problems, for me are:

  1. Not sure about the best way to route signals for a coherent stereo out.
  2. Finding it hard to make any music with it that I like.

I have quite a few other modules that I could swap into it, including a Tempi, Plaits, Erbeverb, Ripples, ALM MFX, Telharmonic, ALM Tangle Quartet.

Another route I've considered is to strip it back a bit and just go for a basic Shared System. Could even sell a module or two and get an Echopon.

Or do you think this set up is actually okay and I should just work at it to get the best from it?

Don't know. I'm a bit stuck at the moment, so any advice would be gratefully recieved. Thanks.

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