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Thanks, Serge Marketplace no longer hurts my eyes !

Thank you! There are indeed many, many, many hours of development behind this new version of Zazou.
To answer the question, there are many ways to influence the musical style. There are a huge number of parameters you can act on, and because they interact with each other, you very quickly go beyond the starting algorithm itself.

Each algorithm has its own variation parameters (between 4 and 9 depending on the model).

Each track is independent, though they can also be linked through sequences or scales, so each one can have its own algorithm and will produce results that depend directly on the gates sent to its input. For example, a combination like Walking Bass + Arpeggio + Guidetone + Julia on a pentatonic scale gives something very different from Serial + Tintinnabuli on a chromatic scale.

The sequences also have a huge influence on the musical style: with the same algorithms, you can get very different results depending on whether you use a “Blues” pattern or a “Trance Pop” pattern.

In fact, Zazou is designed as a near-infinite exploration tool. It is very far from being a pre-wired rhyme box, even though of course you can save the results of your exploration and then use them later in Pattern mode for live performance, for example.
Zazou draws on many elements of music theory and uses remarkable combinations through its algorithms, but in the end it is a true instrument in its own right, and it will produce very different things depending on the musician using it.

It's not any error. The only thing I did yesterday was start this post. I did shut down my browser yesterday evening. Today I had to log in again.

-- SwampRabbitMusicElectronics

I see. Just to be sure: it sets a cookie called "ModularGrid[remember_me]"
That won't work in privacy mode of the browser and also there might be ad blocker browser extensions that block that cookie?

@ExitFields
-- Khimbo

I suspended the user

Could the Serge marketplace have a clean up please, there are several suspended accounts but listings are still there !
-- flipper16

I deleted every offer of suspended users

@Geometry Dash
Hi Gilles, the update sounds great! With all the new algorithms and harmony modes, how much control do users have to guide the generative results toward a specific musical style instead of purely algorithmic output?

EDITED Today, 06:01

Your setup is so great and minimalist! Its great what you get out of it, love your sound! The filter is a gem! Amazing rack!

Could the Serge marketplace have a clean up please, there are several suspended accounts but listings are still there !

@ExitFields was advertising a Vhikk X for very cheap, he offered Paypal FF or banktransfer. We exchanged a few messages, he said he bought the module last August. When I replied that I'd like to have buyer's prtoection, and if possible I'd like to see the invoice, he hasn't replied anymore. He is still selling a Voltage Block for half the prize. I have no proof, but be careful.

https://modulargrid.net/e/users/view/174786

We changed the remember me function last year to a more secure implementation.
But if you set the "remember me" checkbox it should keep you online several weeks. If you still get logged out this might happen when an error on the server occurs. Do you get logged out when you do a specific action?
-- modulargrid

It's not any error. The only thing I did yesterday was start this post. I did shut down my browser yesterday evening. Today I had to log in again.

Yesterday I logged in and checked the box to stay logged in. Today I had to log in again also checking the box.

To be honest its been logging me out a heck of a lot lately, like maybe every 2-3 or 3-4 days.

We changed the remember me function last year to a more secure implementation.
But if you set the "remember me" checkbox it should keep you online several weeks. If you still get logged out this might happen when an error on the server occurs. Do you get logged out when you do a specific action?

I’ve collected a bunch of Behringer modules over 4 or so years
and I wanted to get them off the shelf and give them a home.
I build mostly for auto-generation, I’ve added enough other parts to make it workable.
It sure used a lot of knurlies.

I tried to think vertically this time across all four rows and not be just two cases glued together.
Worked out to 36hp for note events, 16hp for envelopes, 32hp for voices, and 24hp for mixing.
Stereo! No fx modules! No midi!!
Two big wall wart power supplies! :(

It turned out very nice. I wish it was as big as it looks, but it's heavier than you would think.
Everything tests ok. I’ll try recording tomorrow.

—

EDITED Yesterday, 15:57

I used to be able to go at least a week or more without having to log in. Did something change? Is it something wrong on my end?

Definitely on the VCA front. The Doepfers are ideal. Much thanks!

VCAs. The Doepfer A-130-2 or A-133-2 would be perfect.

In my core case I don't want 'character' from my VCA's because I use them for mixing as well as cv modulation. this is so so good at helping to combine my case into a cohesive whole.

in terms of dual VCA's with Character, i love the Tallin in my smaller 64 pallette!

I prefer 3 (dual) vca's with different character.

Any suggestions to fill the remaining 4HP in this Mannequins-centric Intelligel case? Considering either an Endorphin.es AIRSTREAMER (redundant?) or AUTOPILOT (superfluous?)
Silver faceplate preferred but not required.
My Mangrove is the earlier version, so PPM is not an option there.
TIA

EDITED Wednesday March 11, 19:43

The best vca i've used thus far for general purpose, great size and 6 vca's!

This a set I'm developing for the next few shows. Lugging out my key sysnths or guitar isn't always ideal and this have been a big solve.

Hi everyone,

I bought the Intellijel Multigrain and I’m still a bit overwhelmed. What I’d like to do is start from a kind of zero point when playing a sample. In other words, I want the sample to play back without any alteration from the Multigrain, exactly as it is stored on the SD card, and then start modifying it from there.

So far I haven’t managed to set the parameters in a way that lets the sample play back “raw.” Is that even possible?

I’d really appreciate it if someone could help.

Thanks!

This module is listed as available, but it is not. I've been watching the product page for over a year and it's never been in stock.

Otherwise Pam's should have ratcheting and bouncing ball envelopes, no? You can also (self)patch lfos or envelopes to its CV inputs and have that control clock rates or divisions of certain channels.
-- teataine

Aha -- you're right! I didn't realise that I could modulate the clock division, that is indeed the right move. Will need to play with that next time. I don't think that my version of Pam's (PNW) has ratcheting, but CV to clock will open a lot of possibilities in that direction.

I'm considering creating an internal rack connection between the WMD Performance Mixer MKII expander slots and the 8TR recorder, but I couldn't find any photos of the back of the unit anywhere.

I figured ModularGrid is the perfect place to share exactly this kind of information. In case anyone else is curious about what the back looks like, here is a picture:

Additional Note: Please keep in mind that the WMD PM MKII uses a 2mm pitch header, while the 8TR uses the standard 2.54mm (0.1") pitch headers. You'll need a custom adapter or specific cabling to bridge the two.

It's like a guitar player goes to a Jimi Hendrix show, goes home, and can't figure out why his music doesn't sound as good as Jimi

@Tyrion88 is a scammer
@modulargrid maybe suspend this account before more victims are made, I see another bad review already.
-- RoelW

@LeMecSousTonLit doesn't respond any more.
-- Labyrinth100

I suspended both. It's depressing.

@LeMecSousTonLit doesn't respond any more. Tried to make a payment for an LxD (still listed and available) via paypal friends. paypal thinks it's a fraud and wouldn't let me do the transaction. I told LeMecSousTonLit, (also asked for an alternative secure payment option) - no answer since. This was already 3 days ago.
Paypal address was @priil342.

EDITED Mar 7th, 11:34

I remember watching a video on youtube about the auditory illusion thing they do with rythms, where it sounds like it's constantly speeding up/slowing down, despite staying the same tempo. It the rythmic equivalent of a Shepard Tone. Unfortunately I can't find the video now, but I'll link it if I do.

Otherwise Pam's should have ratcheting and bouncing ball envelopes, no? You can also (self)patch lfos or envelopes to its CV inputs and have that control clock rates or divisions of certain channels. If you have a looping envelope with EoC/EoR out in your rack, you can control the rate of that and get all kinds of wonky swings and bursts. There's probably still plenty you can do to fuck with the timing and groove even with your setup, you just have to think outside the box. Like if you have an oscillator that goes into lfo/subaudio, use the square out as a clock/trigger source, then sequence that.

@Tyrion88 is a scammer, paypal account is Volkmar Engel (username VolEngel), phone number +49 176 89735856 (business account on whatsapp), email miloo040922@gmail.com (username Nilo). I think all names and contact methods are fake in the end, there's a not just one person in Germany called Volkmar Engel, so every possible link is a dead one.
Starts out with decent communication, sends pictures of module, promises to send packages tomorrow. After payment no more answers.

Update: I made a fake account, asked for availability of another module, just to test if he's still active, and he is responding to that account. So 100% a scammer. He used the same email and phone number, but other paypal account: Tobias Engelhardt (tobias9342/tobias8engelhardt354@t-online.de).

@modulargrid maybe suspend this account before more victims are made, I see another bad review already.

EDITED Mar 7th, 09:58

The old fashon way. iron saw and file.

@Niemandsland

Dang! looks really good, thanks for posting this. i love how you just used sidespace. looks like 6hp vertial mounted rails on the side?! thats awesome
how did you cut the inlets on the back so precice?

I had the same idea for my travelcase, Works perfect if you get the measuring precise.

Hi,
I got in contact with user @charlente yesterday about a good price Vhikk X. PayPal wouldn't let me make the F&F payment for some reason
-- blaaank

Profile did not look good indeed, I suspended the user and deleted the offers.

Beware, @tiltedtension has some false advertisements listed and is scamming folks here. Prices very low, and I should have known too good to be true.

They will not respond to any messages since payment was made and have not sent me the module I paid them for. They have also listed more advertisements for sale since.

User @MrZakCloud may also be this same seller.
-- OKOKOK

Hi,
I got in contact with user @charlente yesterday about a good price Vhikk X. PayPal wouldn't let me make the F&F payment for some reason so the user gave me another PayPal address (tiltedtension808@outlook.de), so maybe beware of this user too...

@geometry dash meltdown Wow, this DIY Eurorack plan looks like a game-changer! I'm really impressed by how detailed the layout is. Have you all considered incorporating any specific modules for unique sound textures?

Add DFAM-Thing (Euro)-Version from Serendipity? ( from Ken Wessens )

I went to an Autechre show recently, and I got the idea that I could to make something similar on the little modular. Wellllllllll, as it turns out, no. But I did make this.

Out of the rack a PO-12 is doing the basic drums, and I have Bastl Thyme+ on a send (aka 2hp mix) for ambience. Otherwise I took seven channels of Pams and three AD envelopes (triggered from BSP) and plugged then into pretty much every place possible on both BIA and Crust. (Via a bunch of switches, mults, and attenuators.)

I think what it lacks (as an Autechre track) is the speeding-up slowing-down rhythms they like to do. Not sure how to achieve that in this rack. A VC switch and/or a clock multiplier would help.

Hi,
i am building my first diy case,
84hp 4u, and have some questions.
Particularpy i wonder why i didnt see so often that people just use the side of a rail for sliding nuts to mount a case.
i found a custom manufracturer for cheap aluminium u profiles that can be customized exactly so they basicly just need some holes drilled on the edges to be mounted to the side of the rails.
in theory that would be quite practical. just cut lasercut sidepanels, mount the rails, mount the u profile - maybe with some additional angle to also mount it to the sidepanels - but thats it and sounds super easy in theory.
am i missing something why i don't see tha so often?

attaching screenshots.. the aluminium u profile can be for example 2 or 3 mm

EDITED Mar 5th, 09:19

few general recommendations:

for any genre/subgenre anything to do with industrial, i'd definitely
include a (lofi/semi-lofi) wavetable sound source. for sequences, leads,
drones etc. my goto choice for this are:

piston honda mk1 and mk2. latter much easier to find. mk3 is powerful,
two osc cores etc, but unfortunately has audible inherent slew, when you
drive fast pitch sequences.

also, adore the sound of xaoc berlin/jena combo. somewhat expensive but
has that beautiful archaic 8-bit ppg vibe.

feed that into a nice, edgy filter like manhattan ma35, erica polivoks
or something of rolandish or 3320 variety.. gstorm jp6, sh101, pro vcf etc.
and off you go...

also, i'd suggest having few different flavors in your distortion/drive palette.
my favorites are:

bj mimosa stereo (or mono: lila) - hi voltage tube drive/saturation
eowave germania 241 mk2 - germanium vca/drive
ryo opdodist - vactrol based drive

cheers

A soundscape demonstration of DIY Rob Hordijk's Benjolin module using a 1 note Westlicht Performer sequencer in drone mode.

All Soundscape sounds are from the Benjolin module, bass drum from the DIY Mutable Instruments Peaks.

Added a little reverb and delay for effects. Great module for those weird Alien, Drone and Dystopian Cyberpunk type landscape ...

the most recommondations would be a bit expensive.

I like for sounddesign:

Befaco Oneiroi: as looper, fx processor - combines delay, resonator, delay and more

Befaco Noise Plethora - digital noise source with analog filters

Bastl Dark Matter for industrial feedback and rhyrmically modulation

Mimeophon for delayed Feedback and Karplus Strong

Make Noise Spectraphon to alter spectral character of sounds

Qu-Bit Aurora Spectral Reverb - adds a special spectral effect

Schlappi Angle Grinder - as filter, waveshaper or vco

Benjolin V2 - as multimode filter filter and sound design tool

Rabbit Hole Apollow View - for Tube Saturation / -distortion

schlappi BTFLD

Plasma drive - erica synths / game changer audio

Koszalin Xaoc Devices

OpticShifter Teia

SMEAR Smoothie Audio

Beware, @tiltedtension has some false advertisements listed and is scamming folks here. Prices very low, and I should have known too good to be true.

They will not respond to any messages since payment was made and have not sent me the module I paid them for. They have also listed more advertisements for sale since.

User @MrZakCloud may also be this same seller.
-- OKOKOK

Unfortunately I seem to have been scammed by @tiltedtension too. Obviously he has refined his methods because this time the price was "good" but not "suspectibly good". After I was naive enough to send payment: silence. After several messages from me asking for a tracking number that he had promised I got a reply with excuses and then again: silence. Meanwhile he is posting more modules for sale in the marketplace for low prices, obviously to scam more people here before he get banned. I also noticed a newly created (obvious) fake account giving him positive feedback. Don't send any money to this account or to the PayPal address tilted.tension@gmx.de.

Is the build for Batumi really open source? I'm inclined to say false.

Support Xaoc.
Support working class electronics.
-- dohma

Batumi is absolutely NOT open source. This is intellectual property theft.
-- Sedalus

That’s what I thought. Can't believe these clowns.

-- DMSound

Batumi firmware is under an MIT license, which allows you to copy or modify it.
I just hate misinformation.
-- Asrafiel

only the firmware, but not the UX, symbols, and hardware - which is what they have copied

I enjoyed the one I once owned too.
as mentioned especially the inbuilt mutes. but happy nerdings stuff is just the best when you're building a compact system or short on space, definitely slept on.

there modules also offer the most flexible options in eurorack for base utility like mixing.
the Mia especially opened up more intresting modulation options then i could achive before, and turned quickly into one of the most important modules in the rack.

I really enjoyed my Mixup, it was the first mixer I bought, a great little mixer with good options for a smaller system.
Happy Nerding are, overall, well priced and great modules.

FYI: If you're looking for a compact stereo mixer the 4x Stereo Mix by Happy Nerding offers 4 channels in 4 hp.
Though it dosn't have mixups mutes which I confess are pretty handy, and some maybe don't like the dual pot design. (Personally I prefer it)

I don't think there's any question, that all Happy Nerdings utility mixers, including MIA, 6 MIX are around the best modules for bread and butter mixing you will find in modular world...for CV and audio purposes.

Just don't think this deserves the top spot as the best stereo utility mixer...

EDITED Mar 2nd, 01:21

if your goal is primary Sounddesign, there is much missing.
in this racksize, to much modulation
(your bottom row is gone for modulation.)
the Captain O is redundant if want to process extern synths otherwize its just another modulationsource

if you dont are on a small budget and must rely on Behringer stuff, there are other incedible options, at least for the Sounddesign part.

You may focus on either junction or abacus or the doepfer adsr and drop the rest.
same for waves or four lfo.

the sounddesign capabilities of this rack are very limited.

you may look for modules which combine several ways to process audio in one, like waveshaping, saturation, filtering, delay, feedback and so on.

Also a nice filter for pinging.

if you want to go the low budget route, you may get a much bigger rack for the big sized behringer clones.

but I would invest in 1-2 more high quality modules for Sound-Design.

like Malstrom Wyvern (Filter+ Saturation) or intellijel Sealegs Delay, reverb, saturation)

-- VONDENFUNKEN

Thank you so much! So if I understood correctly, you recommend centering on a single function generator module, add another filter beyond Swords, maybe going for a larger case (like those Behringer go ones I understand?), and add modules that expand the rack's sound design capabilities. Is there anything you recommend besides Wyvern or Sealegs? Thank you so much!

Limited high-quality audio output processing, No Sequencer, Missing Texture space. Can use more VCA (random, chaos), distortion, Bit-Crush, FX, Stereo/multi-output for monitoring and capturing better quality.
-- jaflux

Much appreciated!! Are there any modules you recommend for those uses? I'm specially intrigued about texture and the lack of good audio outputs. As for the sequencer, I intend to use this system with a couple of Korg SQ-1s, but I'm definitely interested in something like a Steps/Stages.

Great-thank you kindly for your help!