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hi everyone!

I'm coming to you because I'm a little bit desesperate.

I'm very new in the modular world and i dont know any people who knows about.
I'm watching videos, looking information as i can on internet but it's really hard to understand everything like that.

I have a arturia minibrute 2s. i plan to make a system around him first and maybe on the future, i could leave him and stay full modular. But for now, he's my hub. i would like to make a Serge/Buchla-oriented synthesizer.

I bought the 6u rackbrute, the alm pamela pro workout and a doepfer a151. I played with these modules and enjoy it. now i want to go further.

i already know what i want as an instrument. i dont really need advise for that but i would like to know the viability of what i plan to do.

this is a system that i could consider :

the lower part is about the modules i really want and the upper part is about some ideas that could solve some problems.

i dont want to buy everything now like a crazy. I'll go step by step. but i like to plan and for that i need to understand how it's work.

My question is the following :
Does the lower part represent a realistic system?

i dont think that the selection of module is bad but this is the domain where I'm bad. i dont know if I'm going to run out of utilities. what's the real need of utilities for this combination of modules? maybe a matrix mixer could be nice? maybe a quad vca is absolutely needed? my mixer is it enough ? is it good? maybe i need more utility like attenuverter, offset or something else...?

then if someone can give me some advise about how i can make a system like that work , i would be very grateful.

ps : i put the falistri frap tools on the upper part because I'm hesitating between math and falistri. if someone have a opinion about the relevance of one or the other with the idea of my system, tell me.

EDITED Yesterday, 22:47

Feature request: Rack grouping, to edit/view groups of racks as a complete system on a single page (and ideally be able to edit the order/layout in which the racks are shown). This would be helpful for planning out multi-rack studios.

Right now I could open multiple browser windows and view multiple racks that way but there is no synchronization of module usage information that way, which is difficult for planning layouts where I want to ensure all of my owned modules are utilized but not accidentally placed twice across the whole system.

Currently I resort to creating one giant rack in MG to represent all of the separate physical cases, so that I can see module usage info for the system as a whole. This has its own limitations/frustrations however. For one thing, it constrains me to viewing everything in a vertical orientation, which is not efficient for screen real estate and annoying to keep scrolling up/down. There is additional frustration due to differeing case widths, since all rows have to be same width in MG. So I have to set the width based on my widest case, then add a bunch of blank panels for the other rows which is cumbersome and finnicky at times.

Thank you very much for your response and your insightful advice; it indeed seems wise to test, via VCV Rack, a setup that includes modulators and an attenuators.

jerome

Howdy! This will work in that it will make sounds, but in my opinion it might get a bit static and boring without some more support. As it is, the only way to vary the timbre of the oscillator and sound of the effects is to manually turn knobs, but if you want to have a drone playing while you play other instruments and want it to stay interesting you'll need some forms of modulation. If you want to stay in the Behringer ecosystem, I'd recommend the Four LFO and Abacus, as well as a quad VCA and an attenuator or attenuverter. The attenuator is particularly helpful with the Skies since the CV inputs don't have input attenuation, and the sounds can get pretty wild if density, size, and texture are getting wide swings in value. The Abacus has 2 dedicated attenuverters in addition to attenuators on inputs 1 and 3, but you'll likely want more. Things like the Mutable Instruments Veils and Shades also cascade the outputs when they're not individually being used so you can get interesting combinations of voltage. You'll also need a rack to hold the modules and a power supply. Something like the TipTop Happy Endings Kit or the 4MS Pods are great for small setups, but I'd recommend something like the TipTop Mantis to accomodate expansion.

Maybe the best advice I can give you before you buy anything is to play around in VCV rack. It's totally free and has digital equivalents of many hardware modules, including the Brains and Skies (I think they're the Audible Instruments Macro Oscillator and Texture Synthesizer in there), and you can get used to the modular workflow to decide if it's for you before you make any big investments. Cheers friend!

EDITED Yesterday, 15:11

To be frank, all the AMSynth modules that look cool to me may as well be mirages. I never get to own any.

Profi Modul, sehr schönes design. Sehr gut durchdacht. Spitzenklasse.
Es bringt mega viel Spaß

would be fancy if it was 10 years ago, now its just the same old gold design with zero innovation with a clickbait to sort by price, i never liked this company from the beginning, look at xaoc, make noise, ssf, and this same old 20hp gold oscillator of the most mundane sounds

just add an output with Befaco OUT V3
Output Interface and Headphone amp

Void has been gone/inactive for a year or so now.

I bought a mixer that never shipped over a year ago. At 1st got some communication but then it went dark.
Not sure what happened, hope the person is ok but the site etc. is dead for a while now.

Hey guys,

i'm quite new on modular sound design.
I have been practising live instruments (piano, guitar, bass) since many years.
Playing in a live band, i want to add a modern and new layer of dark ambient tone.

My requirements are :
- input for external midi sequencer/keyboard (MC101 Roland) and clock
- output to the console mix
- good tones but not too expensive.

What do you think of this setup ? does it works ?

Many thanks for your support

regards

jerome

very interessting Module !

What has happened with Void Modular ?

A test case to see if i should just buy an all in one solution

or continue with smaller portable cases

They are in

As per the title, the Syntesla modules should be added since the store is online

Hi Guys

I add my Mother32 into a eurorack case.. what kind of effects would you add to it? Is Make Noise mimeophon a good choice for the M32? or is something like fx aid pro better for it?

Whats your prefer?

What about a Zoom Live Session with a couple of Modular Guys ?
Or in a Whats App Grouß with Vision. iam lokated in Hamburg Germany.
if you are interessted, send me PN.

In case anybody else runs into the same issue, I didn't need to boot Sweet Sixteen after the Disting. But what is imperative is to have the Disting Ex's i2c address set to 49 0x31. That's what Sweet Sixteen seems to use in Sweet_3 firmware, so that's what the Disting Ex needs to listen to.

*Plaits(1채널)
-1/64
-30%level, probability 90%, shape 사각펄스연속

Hey everyone,

Today I tested out this little live set — a mix of underground techno and drone at 165 BPM.

I made a small patch using the StolperBeat and the Voltage Block as sequencers to create pattern transitions. The Rample handles my drums and the Bohm my kick, both running through the 1010music FXBOX at the end of the chain. I use the Z8000 on the Rample to play the layers.

My mixer is the D.O.MIXX, and the drum compressor is the MESSOR.

For the drones:

The Polimaths generates LFO-like movements, which vary because the Spread parameter is modulated by another LFO, the Contour 1.
I use a Mysterion and two MMGs to create shifting rhythmic textures that I modulate with the StolperBeat.
The Plaits plays vocal-style voices that are amplified with Warps, and modulated by the Polimaths.
The Vhikk X creates drones also modulated by the Polimaths.
I mix all the drone layers with a Vortices.

Thanks for listening — see you soon! ;)

*Plaits(1&2 채널)
-Morph 로 톤조절

Hey I finally got around to designing a front panel for this thing. Looks pretty cool to have a mass of functionality in 18 HP!

As an owner of this module it kicks ass but the DJ/ducking module has a bad "level" which results in your very good other modules sound quality decreasing (i would say loosing headroom and precision)
It was so pronnonced for me... that my style had changed with it...
Moreover I was loosing output level control
What about you ?

Hi everyone,

Maybe someone can help me. When I want to add loops from the Bitbox Micro to my other sounds, does it only work if the loop was originally recorded at the same clock speed? Clocking the loop with Pam’s doesn’t work, because then it keeps trying to restart the loops or something like that, which results in strange sound output. Can I only use single-shot samples with Pam’s in order to sync them to the timing of the other modules that are connected to Pam’s?

For example, if I’m running my Brains path at 90 BPM and I want to play a loop on the Bitbox Micro that is at 110 BPM, is there any way to bring it down to 90 BPM? When I try to do it through Pam’s by setting one input on the Micro to “clock” and connecting it to Pam’s, the loop behaves very strangely and becomes unusable…

Does anyone know a logical explanation? Sorry… I’m a beginner.

Thank you very much and best regards.

Howdy! What are you using to control the D? If you're using the MIDI in I can't tell you what's wrong, but the main thing that comes to mind is that you need to gate both the filter contour and the loudness contour for it to sound. As far as tuning is concerned, the knobs for osc 2 and 3 go 5 full tones away in either direction, so you may need to change the octave if you're still not able to match pitch. If that still doesn't work it may need some calibration and that's past my ability haha

Happy bleeping!

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EDITED Monday December 01, 10:47

I contacted Erica Synths and they have confirmed there is an issue with the internal quantizer that is making the first note sharp on all the GVCO modules.

If I get a fix from them I will update the post.

EDITED Saturday November 29, 00:31

Hello all,
I took my Model D out of its desktop case and put it into my Behringer GO Case. Per the manual, the model d is plugged into one dedicated section of the GO case, but when I go from the main pout into the in on my Erica Synths sterio mixer....nothing. Volume on the model d, mixer, and even the input on my interface set to max and only get the FAINTEST sound.

When its in the desktop case its fine. Does the desktop case wiring have a built in VCO and thats why it only works in desktop mode? Im debating getting a 2HP linear VCA from sweetwater and seeing if that helps.

When tuning the model d one of the oscillators also wasnt in tune and i cant turn the tuning thing enough to get it in tune. Is the synth just a bust?

Such a great module – I set up the A/B midi outputs in under a minute right from the front panel. It’s a modern replacement for the Deft Audio Midi Thru module, but with midi merge and three extra outputs on top. Highly recommend!

I would add a filter for behringer brains.. behringer surges is very cheap and sound realy solid.. i have one and i like it a lot

EDITED Thursday November 27, 08:21

Just added the Hotone Ampero II Stage but it didn't remove the white background. I tried to upload a better capture but it isn't showing up.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Hello,

If anyone is working on AI integration, please reach out via PM if you see any of the following as a good 'match' for your project.

I have been working on an AI back-end framework for modular synths and it is now ready for BETA testing.

Please know it's not a complete solution, only the critical parts of the back-end and hardware framework required to implement AI. ( the parts needed no matter what AI solution type is implemented, like packet protocols, module addressing, interface to 'train' the model, saving/loading module settings to/from cloud, javascript node API etc )

It's difficult to summarize but here is a partial list of what I have finished so far. I'm focused on clock and sequencer AI to start. ( find good clock/polyrythm/sequence combos and share them with others )

• Web browser/iOS/iPAD app. ( allow user to 'like' or train the AI as part of the control surface )
• Protocol to 'chain' modules together and auto-address via 3 wire cable. ( automatically tell the AI what devices are on deck )
• Load/save module settings to localstore/eeprom/cloud via node/javascript. ( provide framework for any integration )
• Communicate with an AI server back end, passing the data required to do AI back and forth.
• Auto firmware updates from browser. ( encrypted bootloader )
• Packet protocol to communicate between browser/cloud and hardware modules. ( this has been my main focus for several years now )
• Full API on a dedicated 'STM32'. Can be 'dropped into' existing project or 3rd party modules like an ASIC

If sees this as a good match for their project, PM me and we can discuss in detail. It's quite a large project for just 1 person :)

The api guide can be found here: https://roboDNA.com

Building a (second) minimal techno live setup in a (smaller) retro samsonite case!

Building a minimal techno live setup in a retro samsonite case!

In this video I’m working on a new minimal-music piece in 10/4. Tom, a good friend of mine and a classical composer, has been teaching me about minimal music and this piece is a result of that. The core of the piece is a quartet of STOs that I can really play by shaping envelopes, opening and closing filters, and working with reverb, delay, and low-pass gates to keep everything organic. Plaits runs through Multigrain and Sealegs to create a warm layer underneath. I’ll perform this piece live with Estroe this Friday as we open for Andrea Cichecki. If you’re in the Netherlands, come join us at Lab-1 in Eindhoven.

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EDITED Nov 25th, 21:09

It would maybe be possible to examine this further, but it's not going to change the fact that your module is behaving strangley. It would indeed be interesting to hear from someone with the same module.
-- e_v_k

I'm guessing its not a very common or popular module ? No one with one has chipped in at all. I have sent a video to Erica Synths but not heard anything back on it so far.

EDITED Nov 25th, 19:59

It would maybe be possible to examine this further, but it's not going to change the fact that your module is behaving strangley. It would indeed be interesting to hear from someone with the same module.

Will look into that BASTL citadel, thanks for the suggestion.

noodle_hut,
Stop.pretty please. and for the very last time....I'm not quantizing an already quantized note.

EDITED Nov 25th, 18:23

EDITED Friday November 28, 15:45

noodle_hut,
Please stop now. I know how a quantizer works. I know you are trying to be helpful but you keep dismissing what I say and just plough on with the same repeated info. Just stop before you respond and think for one second about what I am telling you.

I feed into the GVCO 0.000V and it produces a C. Its internal tuner tells me its a C and my Peterson Strobe tells me its a C.
I turn on the internal Quantizer and the pitch changes to C Sharp. This is shown by the GVCO's inbuilt tuner and my Peterson.

Just forget everything else for now. There voltage is 0.oooV so its not near the cusp of where the quantizer wants to round up to the next semitone. We are not changing the voltage entering the GVCO at all. Just turning on its quantizer.
Are you telling me that this is a quantizer that is working as it should?

Anyway, as I said earlier. Lets draw a close to this now as we are not really getting anywhere other than arguing back and forth and I don't want to continue.

I thank you again for your time though.

EDITED Nov 25th, 16:17

EDITED Friday November 28, 15:47

Get an analog voltage source (not a digial one) and monitor it with a digital voltmeter, to at least hundreths precision.
Set your Erica to quantize and feed that voltage to it, from 0v to 5v.
Observe the voltage when the oscillator jumps to the next half step.
Is it when the input is just past ~((1volt / 12.0) * note), or just before?
Or does it flip when the to-be-quantized voltage is past half way between?
Round up or round down or mid-nearest. Or maybe some internal rules table or something.
I couldn't find the quantizer's rules in the vco manual, it just says how to turn it on and set it.

Anyway, now read the voltages from your digital sequencer as it runs a chromatic scale.
Are they each a 'precise' 0.0833333333333333333333 volts apart from each other?
Or 0.0830, or 0.0820, or 0.085?
Analog. Squishy.
There is an implied imprecision down in the 0.003333333s, especially when you're adding them together.
And so there is no "C", or 'in tune', just 'sounds in tune', even when it never really can be.
An analog quantizer can only approximate what your intent for 'C' is, and they all can do it differently.
It's a best guess, because your sequencer isn't sending 'A', it's generating ~0.8333333 volts. Give or take.

Now, knowing the vco's quantizing behaviour, you can see why it is doing what it does and when.
I still think your oscillator is working correctly.

Don't quantize already quantized CVs. You'll get stray semitone errors.

I never like it when someone asks for help, and the annoying reply is 'Why are you doing that'?
But, why are you doing that?

-- noodle_hut

Hello noodle_hut.
I have just measured ( for the last time ) the voltage coming from my sequencer for the first step ( the C ) and its 0.000V
So a precise voltage. I can send you a picture if you do not believe me. Its about as perfect a voltage as you could hope for.
The GVCO plays C when its given this voltage as I would expect it to. If I turn on the intermal quantizer the GVCO produces C sharp. I don't know why you are insisting that this is anything other than wrong.
I don't think we are getting anywhere with this so probably best I stop asking for help now.
Once again, thanks for your input.

"> What's the voltage range you're using? 0-1V or something higher? What about the result for several octaves, is it only the lowest note that's sharp?"

-- e_v_k

The range is 0V to +5V in this experimant. Transposing up tones, semitones or octaves yeilds the same result and just the first note is sharp.

In response to a question you asked earlier that I missed... When the eronious C sharp plays the GVCO tells me its playing C sharp. It doesn't think its playing C but outputting C Sharp.

I did some new experiments with the internal quantizer on this morning and here are the results please take it as read that with the quantizer off all sequences play back as expected as it does if I use an external quantizer.
If I send in a sequence that is C then C one octave up the two notes play back at the same pitch. If I increase the interval between the two Cs by another octave I get a one octave interval, this behaviour is the same when the quantizer is set to chromatic or octaves.

I also tried another experiment inspired by noodle_hut.
If I create a chromatic sequence by ignoring the voltages coming from the sequencer and just setting them by ear, I can get the GVCO to play back a chromatic scale ( with the internal quantizer on ) but every note is a semitone sharp above what the GVCO its tuned to when the quantizer is off. So in some ways one could argue it is, kinda, working.

But I have access to six other quantizers and not one of them produces the results the internal quantizer does. They all work as expected and what you put in you get out ( unless you put in a rouge voltage and then that gets corrected/adjusted so the resulting note is what was desired )

Hello fellow Eurorackers,

I have been building my own racks since I first fell in love with modular many years ago. During this time I experimented with different materials, electronics as well as with my own "hacks" for cable management.

This is my first case that is ready to be sold that contains all the lessons learned. Every screw, component and material have been carefully chosen to be of highest quality and if you hate cable spaghetti you will love the special features.

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This counter also recorded visits from people who were not logged in. Over the years, most of those turned out to be bots, AI spiders, and web crawlers. The table grew to around 150 million rows. We had no reliable way to distinguish real traffic from automated traffic, so we now only count visits from logged-in MG users. All visit entries from non-logged-in users have been deleted. Which is a drastic 95% decrease for most racks.

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Don't know what kind of music you're making using the modules. Some general advice for a secondary rack. A nice modular sequencer would be a good choice, some of them have a distinct workflow that differences a lot from the normal standalone one. Good effects with modulation is also a good idea.
There's a sampler by 1010 music in the rack, but if you're interested in some hard music, dance music, try some analog kick and hihats.

Don't know what kind of music you're making using the modules. Some general advice for a secondary rack. A nice modular sequencer would be a good choice, some of them have a distinct workflow that differences a lot from the normal standalone one. Good effects with modulation is also a good idea.
There's a sampler by 1010 music in the rack, but if you're interested in some hard music, dance music, try some analog kick and hihats.