Thread: Starter rack

Thanks! Didn’t expect so many useful responses. Sometimes it’s nice to get some outside perspective on things.

I’ll link my patch next time instead of a jpeg.

That FX Aid Pro looks very useful.. definitely adding that to the list of future additions.

I like the idea of MTM organ but can’t find any available.

Definitely going to need a bigger case lol.

I think the next thing I’ll add is a plaits or rings clone because they seem useful and I love the sound of rings.

Should I maybe swap the maths out for marbles or something similar??


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Thread: Starter rack

a chaos generator like Wogglebug

no - wogglebug is random not chaotic - so not a chaos generator

there's a difference... both produce "unpredictable" results but in different ways

random is as random as possible - usually pseudo-random, as the generator needs to be seeded, if using a processor to generate your random - you may be able to modulate the upper and lower bounds or the seed, but it's still random

a die roll is random - it will generate a number between 1 & 6 with an equal probability - let's call it r

whereas chaos will have some sort of rule - or an attractor - essentially a function - to influence the outcome - f(r)

possible very simplistic rule (attracts to 3.5ish) if more than 4 subtract 2 if less than 3 add 2 (3,4,3,4,3,4)
or if a product of 2 divide by 2 - so you get (1,1, 2, 3, 3 , 5 )

roll the die and apply rule

often the previous chaotically generated number will be used in the function to generate the current chaotic value - in order to give a more similar result - or maybe an lfo will be used to influence the outcome - possibly with speed and offset as modulateable parameters or possibly both strategies will be employed simultaneously

obviously these are incredibly basic examples - iirc there's links to much more in depth discussions of chaos on the nonlinearcircuits website (iirc Andrew the owner has a phD in designing chaotic circuits)
-- JimHowell1970

Thanks for the clarification!

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


Ha! I was just thinking about this. As I get to know my rack better, I actually do find myself half-wishing for a more uniform black panel look. When I was first getting started, I didn't really care and almost preferred an eclectic assortment. I'm getting a little more conservative the longer I do this though. Haha. It's funny that it matters to any of us, but it does for whatever inexplicable reason.


This seems strange to me, Why do people have an obsession with Black panels?
I'm enjoying the eclectic and wish those Red ADDAC modules were still a common thing, I don't want everything to be black, it can't just be me can it?

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

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Thread: Starter rack

a chaos generator like Wogglebug

no - wogglebug is random not chaotic - so not a chaos generator

there's a difference... both produce "unpredictable" results but in different ways

random is as random as possible - usually pseudo-random, as the generator needs to be seeded, if using a processor to generate your random - you may be able to modulate the upper and lower bounds or the seed, but it's still random

a die roll is random - it will generate a number between 1 & 6 with an equal probability - let's call it r

whereas chaos will have some sort of rule - or an attractor - essentially a function - to influence the outcome - f(r)

possible very simplistic rule (attracts to 3.5ish) if more than 4 subtract 2 if less than 3 add 2 (3,4,3,4,3,4)
or if a product of 2 divide by 2 - so you get (1,1, 2, 3, 3 , 5 )

roll the die and apply rule

often the previous chaotically generated number will be used in the function to generate the current chaotic value - in order to give a more similar result - or maybe an lfo will be used to influence the outcome - possibly with speed and offset as modulateable parameters or possibly both strategies will be employed simultaneously

obviously these are incredibly basic examples - iirc there's links to much more in depth discussions of chaos on the nonlinearcircuits website (iirc Andrew the owner has a phD in designing chaotic circuits)

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simply choose everything but not HEAD

Indeed! I hadn't really used the panel selector much. It is possible to switch from HEAD to 1/N there, pointing directly at the most recent image.

in my opinion it makes sense to have modules default image set to HEAD because there are often improvements in quality or perspective.

I still think it would make more sense not to default to HEAD. In my experience, updated images are almost always a new panel color or someone uploading a (usually lower quality, and not matching other images from the same manufacturer) image of the actual panel from their rack. If someone uploads a higher quality image, it usually happens within a short time of a module's release, so usually that image is already in the database by the time I'm adding a module to my rack.


Thread: Starter rack

Small option for chords: MTM organ..


Is there a way to set the current module image to something other than HEAD even if someone wants the current default image? (So that a rack isn’t following the HEAD image, and doesn’t update when a new image is uploaded.)
-- chaos215bar2

simply choose everything but not HEAD

image

image

EDIT
ensure you have enabled the panel selector (top right of the rack)
image

further i misunderstood your question :D
in my opinion it makes sense to have modules default image set to HEAD because there are often improvements in quality or perspective.


Other people who have set their module image to HEAD version (default) will see your newly uploaded image.
HEAD means: always show the newest image.
If they switch to an older version it will stick there, newly uploaded images will not affect their racks.

Is there a way to set the current module image to something other than HEAD even if someone wants the current default image? (So that a rack isn’t following the HEAD image, and doesn’t update when a new image is uploaded.)

Seems like this would maybe make sense as the default behavior. Rather than setting the module image to HEAD by default, just set it to whatever the current default image is, but stick with that image permanently.

To use an example, if I add a module to a rack with, say, a silver panel as the default and only image, then that’s probably the version of the module I own. If someone uploads a black panel later, I probably don’t want my rack to get updated with the black image. Seems like there’s no way to do that now, unless I re-upload (duplicate) the silver panel image and select the old version when adding the module to a rack, which would be a bit silly.

It’s always a little weird to come back to a rack after a few months and find out a couple of the module images have been switched out to a version I didn’t originally have in the rack and don’t actually own.


Thread: Starter rack

I'm a newb so not much advice/perspective I can add other than to say, I had Plaits suggested to me for my setup, which also contains Maths/Dixie/Quad VCA, and I've been loving it.

e.g., Dixie pulses enveloped via Maths and used to trigger the percussive modes of Plaits gets some interesting ambience, if you play around enough.

With the firmware update, Plaits has an LFO mode, which paired with Dixie gives you good flexibility if you want one to act as the clock for the other.

Someone also suggested (to me) a chaos generator like Wogglebug to add an element of unpredictability, if you have room for it. Not essential but something fun to keep in mind. Ambient, in my experience, thrives on chaos.

FX Aid pro kept coming up in my search for FX, so sounds like you can't go wrong with that recommendation.

Good luck, have fun, and seriously consider wise people's advice when they say, "You may need a bigger case."

I started out with a 64 HP "budget setup" that quickly ballooned to 128 HP despite everything I could do, lulz.

While I'm very happy with a smaller setup, too small a setup might not achieve all the things you want, particularly polyphony.

Here's a link to a good thread from the forum on why polyphony isn't easily achievable....item #4 in particular.

Best wishes, good luck, and enjoy the ride! :)

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


Thanks!


Thread: Starter rack

get a bigger case,and a fx aid pro would be a good choice for reverbs and stuff

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Thread: Starter rack

Hi,

First of all, a link to your patch is much better than a jpeg.
ModularGrid Rack

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/erica-synths-black-wavetable-vco

Modules for ambient are usually large modules, so you need a lot more space to begin with.
For example, https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-mimeophon already consumes 16HP
You should think of another voice for those strings. A clone of MI plaits is very versatile.
I don't know what use you give to the two Distinguishings, I imagine effects. For the type of music you want, a resonator like MI Rings and the Mimeophon that I mentioned before would suit you well. You will need effects with a lot more control than disnting gives you. And to shoot everything some trigger/cv generator like MI Marbles (or clones)
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/after-later-audio-dice.
A noise source and some utilities like a sequential switch, mixer/attenuator/attenuverter.


Thread: Starter rack

So this is what I have. I’ve been enjoying everything so far but would like to get into more ambient music with polyphony/chord patches. Open to swapping any of these modules out for ones that make more sense.

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2155588.jpg?1676524364


Is there a way to lock the current panel images in a rack, so that they aren’t updated whenever someone uploads a new image?

It looks like if I select something other than the default image when adding a module, that image is saved. But if I use the default image, it isn’t saved and gets updated every time a new image is added for the module.

This seems like the opposite of the behavior you’d want most of the time. It doesn’t seem like there’s really ever a situation where someone would setup a rack, but want modules to update when a new revision comes out, or when someone uploads a custom image from their own rack.


I would like to see a section for studio rack gear. Ive had to add them to the guitar pedal section hidden but this seems like a logical progression


Fusion success! :)

Love the "sax" freakout solo!

I love all of Miles' music and appreciate the Brew influence...

Thanks for sharing!

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


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Great work, and I have to say it too, amazing visuals!
-- FredFoxtrott

Thank you :)

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Thanks a lot :), thanks for listening and your kind words! Hopefully more to come, but got so little time for my synths...

All the Best,
jingo


Super chill, thanks for sharing @jingo


:), Thanks for listening, glad you like it!

Best,
jingo


Thanks for sharing! Love it! :)

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


A Buffered Mult: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-buff-mult

You will be able to modulate multiple parameters simultaneously with a single voltage source (1 x 6) or send the same pitch sequence to both Dixie and Plaits, or split the Out from Plaits into multiple paths (i.e one into MFX—one into Filter) and create a multi-dimensional layered sound that you could Pan around. Lots more.
-- Toccata

Excellent! That was my first instinct; again, we seem to be on the same wavelength. :)

I definitely like the idea of the flexibility and extra capability of a buffered mult vs. using stackcables or those multi hub thingys. And I definitely like feeding things into the x-pan.

Great advice, thanks as always! I will continue to think about it before making the decision, but this goes a long way towards helping me. :)

Any other thoughts on other possible ways to use up the last 2hp, anyone?

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


A Buffered Mult: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-buff-mult

You will be able to modulate multiple parameters simultaneously with a single voltage source (1 x 6) or send the same pitch sequence to both Dixie and Plaits, or split the Out from Plaits into multiple paths (i.e one into MFX—one into Filter) and create a multi-dimensional layered sound that you could Pan around. Lots more.


This is where it stands now. Still 2hp to work with. Gonna think long and hard about it.

Suggestions?

Thanks! :)

“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


Glad you enjoyed it :),
Best,
jingo


Great work, and I have to say it too, amazing visuals!


Taking me back to 1981 Frankfurt! Subbed.


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Thread: UX

Thanks for reporting all this. I read it all and want to fix everything but everything is going slower than I wished.

As a user I want to be able to export a csv from the data sheet page, or hide specific columns in that view.

Not CSV but on the My Modular page you can get a XML page of your rack with all the modules. Just add .xml to the URL. (Unicorn feature)
I see it would make more sense with CSV and the data sheet page, that might come.

Please remove keybindings

this is already possible with the Keyboard Shortcuts switch in rack view?

Please detect mobile and enable lock by default for mobile

Good call

Please enable transferring of a module between cases

There is a workaround but (cough) keyboard shortcuts must be enabled for this. You can copy/paste modules between browser windows with the c and v shortcuts.

Thanks for supporting!

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Straightforward build, though probably not best for your first or second. No surface mount.
Needs calibration, and you’ll need a scope, frequency counter, or good tuner to calibrate.

Works well, both for straight quantization and for interesting arpeggios with, say, an LFO as the voltage input. All in all a very useful unit.

Build


Thread: UX

Heello, a few things that are a bit rough sometimes. For context I am a paid user and have been on the site for a few years, also work as a UI Eng

  • Why would I ever need keybindings to flip or duplicate, or do anything on this site really. All it does it that randomly when I search for a module below, in case I lose focus of the search bar (which happens accidentally all the time), that it just hoses my whole rack - flipping things, duplicating things... deleting things - until I realize what I am doing. What was that cool module? We will never know, because no undo or history :)

  • On mobile it doesn't seem to load a unique experience, so when trying to scroll thru your rack (not locked by default in mobile), again your rack is just hosed because it's dragging things around randomly and resorting, etc.

  • Messages UI seems kinda clunky and I'm often struggling to find the specific message that actually contains the tracking # I'm looking for etc, maybe because the previous replies are contained in nested quote trees, if captured in the threads further replies at all.

Feature request stories:
- As a user I want to be able to transfer a module from one of my racks to another without needing to navigate away from my current view.
- As a user I want to be able to export a csv from the data sheet page, or hide specific columns in that view.

Probably known bug:
- Re-arranging indicators are unreliable and often end w/ modules being resorted even when it looks like they will settle in without conflict.

I realize you guys have actually recently implemented a bunch of things I was going to add here! I want to close with saying I love ModularGrid. The deeper and more familiar I become with the site, the more genius and awesome I realize it is. It's well thought out and it really enables the community to be consumer gluttons to the max. Obviously people here care, so I don't feel like I am wasting time by writing this, and hope folks know I come from a place of utter Kumbayance. If I can help clarify anything then plz let me know but my TLDR is:

Please remove keybindings
Please detect mobile and enable lock by default for mobile
Please enable transferring of a module between cases

tyty


thanks farkas, ill look into it.


endless ambient style 64 steps… (a4,rytm,octa,h90)

enjoy :)

on SC

on YT


Polyphony is possible but incredibly expensive and severely limited in modular. Saving presets is not a benefit of modular.
It sounds like what you want or need is a fixed architecture synth like the DSI Prophet Rev2 or something similar.
Have fun and good luck.


Hi,
Normally the busboards have a series of filters and components at the input. There they sell 16-pin adapters to terminals to be able to connect them at the entrance.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_eurorack_power_adapter.htm
There are also some fonts that have terminal output, I think Modulaire Maritime https://www.modulairegrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-cargo.
"Can be used with two flying busboards but also have terminals to connect the fixed busboards."
-- ferranadsr

Thank you ! So if if get this, and this bus board, I should be good then : : https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_busboard.htm

-- HenryVomit
I don't know, I just gave you general ideas.
It seems to me that the Doepfer busboard has fast-on type flat terminals and the adapter that I am telling you about is for a screw terminal

-- ferranadsr

Sure - that's why I looked up the NANO bus board, which seems to be made to use in conjunction with the adapter you mentioned above (if I understood correctly !).

Thank you for your help :)


Hi,
Normally the busboards have a series of filters and components at the input. There they sell 16-pin adapters to terminals to be able to connect them at the entrance.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_eurorack_power_adapter.htm
There are also some fonts that have terminal output, I think Modulaire Maritime https://www.modulairegrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-cargo.
"Can be used with two flying busboards but also have terminals to connect the fixed busboards."
-- ferranadsr

Thank you ! So if if get this, and this bus board, I should be good then : : https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_busboard.htm

-- HenryVomit
I don't know, I just gave you general ideas.
It seems to me that the Doepfer busboard has fast-on type flat terminals and the adapter that I am telling you about is for a screw terminal


Hi,
Normally the busboards have a series of filters and components at the input. There they sell 16-pin adapters to terminals to be able to connect them at the entrance.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_eurorack_power_adapter.htm
There are also some fonts that have terminal output, I think Modulaire Maritime https://www.modulairegrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-cargo.
"Can be used with two flying busboards but also have terminals to connect the fixed busboards."
-- ferranadsr

Thank you ! So if if get this, and this bus board, I should be good then : : https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_busboard.htm


Hi guys, I’m new to “Modulars” and I want to Create my Own Sounds and Save the sounds I make as Presets so that I can return to them whenever I compose. On top of this (and more importantly), I want to be able to use Multiple Voices and Oscillators, whilst playing any Chord of choice - with as many notes as I want via a midi Keyboard - thus having complete control and endless possibilities with a “Modular Synth”.

Is it possible to do this with Modules? Is my only course of action to buy multiple units of the same ”Types” of modules in order for this to work? Or is there better, more efficient way of doing this without having to procure so many modules - whilst still being able to do everything that I want to do on a modular synth?

Thanking anyone, in advance, for any help and advice you may be able to give.


Hi,
Normally the busboards have a series of filters and components at the input. There they sell 16-pin adapters to terminals to be able to connect them at the entrance.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/nano_modules_eurorack_power_adapter.htm
There are also some fonts that have terminal output, I think Modulaire Maritime https://www.modulairegrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-cargo.
"Can be used with two flying busboards but also have terminals to connect the fixed busboards."


I would like to know why this listing says the Optomix is a mixer.
-- mg356

Technically it is a mixer if you use the "Aux" input.


Additions


Hi there,

I researched a bit in the Forum archives but couldn't seem to find anything related to this exact situation, so here I go :

I had a µZeus power module with 2 flying bus cables for a while, cheap & nice, but I need a little more power now.

I am leaning toward the Eowave source d'energie with a 4ms Power Brick, connecting to something like a Doepfer A-100 bus board with a 16-pin power cable - is this doable ? I mean can i plug the 16-pin cable to one of the inlets of the bus and have the power being transmitted to the others, like it seems to work on a flying bus cable, or is it not working like this at all ? I'm quite new to this :)

Thanks !