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Hi Nokulture,

He, he, I think you succeeded in trying to emulate an old tape! :-) Nice little track, I wouldn't have mind it if it would be double or even triple the length.

Thanks a lot for sharing and kind regards, Garfield.

Lovely, thanks for sharing @jingo, I'm sending good vibes to you (and all the forum-heads) in these crazy times

Self patching feedback-wise a module to throw in the mix would be a tanh by Instruo, seems built for that and only in 4 HP.
-- troux

thanks for this! will also have a good look at tomorrow.

Self patching feedback-wise a module to throw in the mix would be a tanh by Instruo, seems built for that and only in 4 HP.

That was lovely :) Cheers

post-apocalyptic sadness. Thanks :)

I've been reading through their module list recently- definitely lots to think about! thanks.

never underestimate doepfer especially for utilities

This feels like an empty world after a nuclear war! Brilliant track and lovely depressing atmosphere!

Best,
jingo

Hi! thanks so much for this- yep, these are modules I'm currently looking at and will definitely explore further following this. The TWS is in there alongside the ResEQ to form a little self-patching chaotic feedback corner of the case although I take your point about the VCM which does sound great...also v. interested in the NCOM.

Thanks Garfield,

I am building some eurorack modules (nlc) and hope to have time to wiggle them...

And thanks again for your kind words which I always appreciate! :)

Best,
jingo

There's a lot of big modules here, which might be ok but I'd probably want to fit a ton more little things in here to really leverage the power of the bigger modules. I know you're planning on using the ES-9 but personally I like getting away from the computer, so ideas that come to mind: Links, Kinks, Rnd Step, Ochd, Cold Mac, Crow, Ladik across the board, Tirana, Turing Machine or 2HP TM, more VCAs (the VCA matrix is less flexible in reality than it looks on paper), Serge NCOM (though you do have a Compare 2), DC coupled ring modulators (in particular the Befaco A*B+C), clock dividers... that's what I can think of for now at least.

To start, I'd drop the Rainmaker and the Tripler Waveshaper (kind of redundant since your oscillators are complex already, plus the other Serge wavefolder is generally regarded as superior) and see what of the above makes sense to you to fit in. IMHO you'd come out with a far more flexible and adventurous rack.

Hi All!

First time posting here and happy to receive advice or suggestions on the below:

Having spent a number of months researching, I started putting my rack together earlier this year. I'm loving the journey so far but as for many, am trying to find a balance between sources, modifiers, modulation and utilities and figuring out what works best for me....

My aim is to create an instrument for sonic experimentation (initially studio-based but to be performed with further down the line)- with inspiration found in the patch programmability and feedback systems of Serge, the timbral possibilities unique to Eurorack sound modifiers and sample manipulation. The above system will be accompanied by a control skiff at some point in the future, additional modulation is currently being sourced from VCV via Es9, mixing is being done externally and sequencing (rarely) being done in a DAW. I also have a PNW which will end up in the skiff.

I'm particularly looking for advice on utilities/modulation that might open up the system further (still considering whether Genie, Compare 2, Levit 8, HN MIA/VCAs are best use of the space available), whether there are any massive oversights or just modules that could be lots of fun to explore.

Thanks!

Just lucky basically, no talent, no education, just luck ;-) This is me at least.

Yes, very nice track. I love it when you spend all this time patching something fast and complex and busy, but then you cut some parts, drop the tempo, open the envelopes and reduce it down and you get something related, but totally different and often better than what was originally patched. At least it happens to me on occasion. :-)

Hi,
Little generative ambient patch around BIA on main lead and rings on back lead sequenced by Rene. I've tried to emulate an old tape taste around FX aid, kinks and plaits.

Thanks for your feedback, as always, Garfield. Well, it was QPAS that convinced me, my friend was merely kind enough to make a temporary swap happen - his QPAS for my Rossum Morpheus, 18 hps of filter for 18 hps of filter, for a few days :) I've been keeping an eye on QPAS since it was released and now it got to me instantly and am looking at it as a central module in my rack (have one on backorder but might find one locally...). It's awesome as a stereo filter but can also be something like a 2 x mono filter/animator module. As a matter of fact, at one point, if and when my rack will expand to 4 or 5 x 104 hps, I might decide to add a second QPAS. But first I need the first :)

wow, thanks guys :)
This was literally a slowed a tweaked part of a more hectic patch.

Very calm and relaxing. Love the Samples and the clicky Beats!

Very different from the usual @wishbonebrewery but really nicely done, thanks for sharing and like @GarfieldModular I'm looking forward to more.

Hi Gabor,

Oh yes, that sounds good :-) So your friend easily convinced you to go for the QPAS, right? ;-)

It is indeed a nice stereo filter. Great to share here so you can convince others to go for the QPAS too; I already got one and I am happy with it too. Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Slammer22,

Yes indeed, the filter of the Neutron is not too bad. It's not the same but might go about the same direction, how about Doepfer - A124 VCF5 Wasp filter? That's a nuts filter too :-) You can download the review report that I made about it (see my below mentioned website under my signature) and go to chapter 6 for some sound examples. Or use this link that takes you directly to that review report:

https://garfieldmodular.net/index.php/doepfer/doepfer-a-124-1/

But... ehm... why you don't take the Neutron out of your rack and put it back in it's original casing and then keep using it? I love the LFO of the Neutron, so useful once and a while. I have the Neutron still in my rack as well but I am going to put it soon back in it's original casing, as you mention, to free up some rack HP space; but I will still use the Neutron as well, no reason not to...

Good luck with whatever you decide (please let us know) and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Indeed something different but nice, I feel it's somehow very nice and relaxing. The samples are partly quite funny too :-)

Nice new approach and I wouldn't mind if you go a bit more along this path. Thank you very much for trying something different and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Brunomolteni,

Nice video, interesting the way you do the split, provides the viewer with more "viewing" information, very nice! Ha, ha, I love those funny sounds at about 4:30+ :-) Nice reverb at the end of the track!

It's nice to see you at work and looks like you really enjoying this, as well as I did :-) Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

I borrowed a QPAS from a friend to decide whether I need one in my rack. Oh yes, I do, yes please! Recorded a few patches with QPAS, this one along with a video. Patch details in the video description.

I am going to take my Behringer Neutron out of my rack and will probably sell it, if I can find a filter that is similar in Eurorack format.
Does anyone know if there is a filter out there that is as nuts as it is ?.
It is amazing, I just would like to free up some space.

Thanks P

Some simple parts of a patch I was playing with Marbles is on the Pitches and Triggers then a sort of subtle envelope from the WMS/SSF ADSRVCA which is also tweaking the Rebach VCF-AB filter which is simply filtering the Sine wave from the MakeNoise STO, which heads into delay from the Erica Pico DSP, some old shortwave radio samples go through the Monsoon Clouds and there is some subtle percussion which I tried to keep restrained and left the sort of Piano sound just to do its thing with minimal tweaking.
Cheers for Listening, it was recorded in one-take, apologies for any crackles from my crappy soundcard!
I picked an old photo do go with this slightly somber piece, taken on 120 film with an old Halina camera.

Thank you, Im gonna try that tonight. I have a pico mult so will be fine.

Here it is, Jim: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/blood-cells-audio-d-o-mixx

Depends on the sort of system, really. I myself try and follow something akin to having the audio path and modulation sources separate, with the audio going from left (oscillators) to right (filters, post-VCF VCAs, etc), and then loading the modulation sources in in groups, but so that the control signals go upward and on the left, and the audio goes downward and on the right to the output module(s). But there are "special circumstances" where this might not be the best solution.

One approach I like to take with ambient to get away from that robotic rhythm is to use the pitch CV information to add a little bit of adjustment to my clock. So for example, Pip Slope into Bloom, Bloom CV 1 into a buffered mult, one out of which goes into Surface, the second out of which gets attenuated through Tangle Quartet and sent back into the Pip Slope's decay CV. This will add a little pause after higher notes, and a shorter pause or perhaps none at all after lower notes. If you want the opposite, get an attenuverter instead of using TQ and invert the CV coming out of the buffered mult. You can also do this trick with your envelopes so that rather than modulating the tempo you're modulating the decay of the Surface, meaning the note itself will last longer or shorter depending.

Since it seems like you don't have a buffered mult at the moment you could use CV 2 on the Bloom instead of CV1 through a mult which might be interesting in its own way, not quite so clearly linked with what's happening sonically.

basically there are a few approaches

some people group by functionality, some people by voice, some people by most used, some left to right, some top to bottom

it's mostly a matter of which one works best for you though!

I think Maths is quite easy to understand actually at it's most basic it's just 2 function generators and a mixer - definitely worthwhile and even more so if you work your way through the illustrated manual a couple of times

never enough mixers or vcas!

sounds like a vc trigger/gate delay would be useful to add some swing!

try mixing and then sending through a reverb or delay - it'll help gel them together - maybe surface is best through filter first, though!

There was a thread on this fairly recently, check it out https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/9489

I might invest in maths but Im kinda afraid it would be a waste of money since its kinda hard to understand :/

Mixer wise I quickly learned that i need more asap since i basically use my tangle quartet as a mixer and triplatt as a vca. Still dont have enough though.

As far as voices go I have surface and nebulae but at the moment I can not make them sound 'good' together. I end up using the clock from bloom and its controls are not ideal and I have to mult it to pretty much all my modules as well as dfam and i can not divide the 'channels' so everything sounds very robotic (not as much as harware synths but still).

yeah - that's the one I thought - not on modulargrid yet

between the hermod and the mixer you need voices - vco/vcf/vcas/modulation/envelope generators etc etc and probably some sub mixers for both audio and control voltages - and after the mixer you need an audio interface to connect to your computer

I hope this what you were expecting!
-- JimHowell1970

ahh yes yes,that was what i thought,im on vacation atm wont have time to mess with it untill tommorow,so thought i would ask :)
thanks Jim

you might find you like surface more when you have more modulation and it is more 'in the mix' with more voices

personally I've never used a sequencer for cv - I find lfos, function generators, sample and hold and envelopes work better for me

quantizers are very useful if your main sequencer is not quantized - just like mixers and audio interfaces and vcas - get more channels than you think you need now so that you don't run out quickly in the future!

Sorry it took me a while to reply. I have received my case and have put together the few modules I have. Bloom is pretty fun and intuitive and for the time being I should be alright however I am looking at Mimetic Digitalis as a cv sequencer. I like the 'shred' function since I do not need to input particular notes in and I can just go crazy. However in order to stay within a scale i would require a quantizer... or not?

Regarding utilities in general after playing for a few hrs I see how little I can modulate my osc. I cant even invert them so let alone fold or offset. Have to invest into that right now.

Also not a big fan of surface as it turns out but alas you live and learn :(

I have quite a lot stereo outs in most of my voices and imo a stereo mixer will help me A LOT.

yeah - that's the one I thought - not on modulargrid yet

between the hermod and the mixer you need voices - vco/vcf/vcas/modulation/envelope generators etc etc and probably some sub mixers for both audio and control voltages - and after the mixer you need an audio interface to connect to your computer

I hope this what you were expecting!

it's probably not much more difficult than plugging the cable in and a tiny bit if menu diving to get a midi keybooard to cnnect too the hermod etc - I think the manual was decent when I was looking - so that's probably a good place to start

can you post a link to the mixer? what is the full chain you are intending on using?
-- JimHowell1970

here is a link to the mixer
https://bloodcellsaudio.com/products/domixx

can see it cleared customs today,so will probaly recieve it by the end of this week

will experiment with the hermod when i get home from holiday and read the manual

Since Covid most packages to the US are shipped ... with a ship. That can take months. I have send one module via plane with DHL. That cost 50€.
Then you have to fill out those US customs forms I barely understand.
It makes me feel like I am committing a serious smuggling crime and will be arrested the next time I visit the US.

We don't change data when the lock is set by manufacturers. But if the manufacturer does not respond I will remove the lock.

Hello, you are right. I should have done this. I forgot that.

So here I share the information the manufacturer shows on their website;

Approx. Power Rating: 210ma

I hope that helps, but it would be nice if the module gets an update so that the drawn current can be calculated in.
It's just my idea...

I've tried to imitate the eurorack-tutorial-style - not sure this is my game though... ;-)
Maybe you'll get something out of it anyways!

how easy is it to connect a midi keyboard to the hermod to play the modular?(if thats even possible)
-- Broken-Form

Very easy. Try this: remove the unnecessary words from the above then copy/paste the remainder of the question in a search engine. Doing that, I found the information you're looking for in less than 15 seconds.

I think the manual was decent when I was looking - so that's probably a good place to start
-- JimHowell1970

Ah yeah, it's pretty good (wish they made it available as PDF though) but who reads manuals in 2021 ? I'm wondering why manufacturers still bother with them, after all, isn't everyone learning everything from Youtube nowadays ?

also im getting a Bloodcells audio D.O.M.I.X.X mixer module,can i connect the hermod to this?i want to multitrack record the modular into my daw through the Mixer module.
-- Broken-Form

Sounds like reading the manual is going to be really beneficial, plugging a CV/gate sequencer like Hermod in a mixer to achieve multitracking doesn't make any sense.

My experience is very similar to the one described by Señor Bling: I'm avoiding to sell outside of the EU, including to the UK, it's just too much trouble. Same for purchases actually, I'm actively looking for ways to replace Thonk, love them but shipping from UK to Belgium is so stupidly slow and difficult now that I prefer sourcing parts myself than buying a kit from Thonk...

Before Covid shipping to the US was not much of an issue. But it's become both slow and very expensive since. Plus, insurance on >100€£$ fragile electronic items is much more important than, say, a 10€ record. And I even had to pause selling those (via discogs) to your continent starting last March. Personally, I don't mind filling out customs forms and everything but Covid has made international shipping quite more difficult. Three records I did ship to the US last November arrived in late February. Two of the buyers were incredibly patient but one opened a PayPal dispute and got his money back in January. I'm simply not too keen on going through this again.

Edit: as for the UK... since Brexit I had two items ordered from there stuck in customs for more than a month. Until this process works more smoothly, I won't ship anything there just because I don't want to deal with (understandably) desperate buyers on a regular basis. See above.

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Looking for some tips on the arrangement/placement of modules. What do you prefer? F.e. Modulation/utilities in the middle or not and why? Just bought my last modules (sure 😉) but pretty satisfied with what I’ve got. The modular setup is used with iOS/Mac and the output sampled by an MPC One.

I reckon it has more to do with logistics horror stories than cost.
I made the mistake of accepting an offer on eBay from a guy in the UK last January and we're both still regretting it. It's now May and the item is still on its way back to me. So as much as I still call the UK home, after 20 years there, I don't see myself repeating that experience anytime soon. Sadly.

Shipping from France to USA is 38€.
I'll be happy to sell you my modules.