Yes, there are many possibilities. You can go with
- a modular stereo/panning mixer. Like the Sputnik, or the L-1 VC Stereo Mixer
- separate panners like this Doepfer
- even building your own panners using many VCA's :)
- using an external performance mixer (Mackie, Allen&Heath) of which the most have control over panning their L and R
The most cost-effective way is undoubtly an external mixer if you don't need CV panning control over every channel.
If you know that you'll incorporate drums at some point in the 'not so distant future' a 3rd U is a very good idea

Thank you @grahambrot,
OK, maybe I should only get one small single output mixer, like a Intellijel uJack and mix voices with a performance mixer. I just don't seem to find such mixer which can pan, maybe I need an extra panning module. OK with the one DPO as currently the only oscillator, a multy channel stereo mixer seems too much, I was going to think ahead for times when I have more voices, and then I would like to pan single voices left or right. For example I add a bass drum module, snare module etc...
I see my rack might become too small soon :)

Just showing off the DIY-System for my project 45nm.
Besides the modded Volca Beats and Bass and two Monotrons everything DIY. Some Lunetta stuff, Arduino based modules, modded guitar pedals, tools and a few analog cicuits.

Not complete yet

Questions? Feel free to ask or check:
https://facebook.com/45nanometer or https://soundcloud.com/45nm

I had the Ginko as kit, pretty easy to assemble, just some basic soldering skills are needed (the only tricky part are the led, beware to not overheat them and check the polarity, I made some mistakes on that), but I know it was also available as "complete" module. The guy behind GinkoSynthese is very friendly and extremely helpful, so if you are interested in the module maybe it's worth to send a mail; the sample slicer is really a great module, that crunchy 12bit sound is lovable.

Best of luck with you modular!

Thanks for smooth and trouble-free transactions to
@loopino for IF117 - Wavolver II,
@pufik for Sputnik Oscillator,
@LYXE for WMD Triple Bipolar VCA,
@sambal for Model 41 Steiner4P Filter,
@pownie for ADE-30 Wave Boss,
@DNLGS for Quad VCA II,
@AVJR for Dronebank,
@annxia for West Coast Random Source and Mangrove,
@restlessboy for modDemix,
@hadj for uVCA II,
@Max_Millon for A-116

Thanks man!

I'm definitely leaning more toward the Disting, from a practical approach. I'd like to learn as much as possible about these couple pieces and then move on.

The idea of a DIY module is really appealing to me--is that how you'd typically get a Ginko Synthese, through a kit? Looks like it's tough to get if you're outside of Europe, but a really cool module!

The far right 1U module is a 3.5mm to 6.35mm jack sockets 6.35mm sockets are via a panel on the side of the top case. From there it goes straight into a soundcraft signature 12 mixer and then into my Adam monitors as well as multi track recording.

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This is awesome! Where can I go about learning how to do this mod? and/or purchasing the kit/faceplate? This 5hp version is fantastic and looks great.

If I had to choose a single module I would go for the disting because as you said it's the swiss army knife of modular. Clouds it's an amazing module especially if you have the mother 32 for additional processing and cv. I personally don't like the chord (bare with me, I never had one and never tested one, I just don't like the idea behind it), I would use that space for some modules for a proper synth voice or I would go for the Spectral Multiband Resonator to use in combination with the mother32.
I would like to recommend you for what about sampling the Gynkosynthese Sampleslicer, it's an amazing tool for sampling I have one, I love it and I use it a lot or if you want to stay classic you can go for the phonogene (altough it cost 4 times the Gynko) from Make Noise. If you want to spend big money you can go for some fancier samplers like the upcoming assimil8or from Rossum or the bitbox from 1010music (not that expensive but very interesting) or the ER-301 from Orthogonal devices.

Best!

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Edit: if you go with the multiple - I would take an active one...
-- grahambrot
Yes, but it was just to fill the space and i already have one left. And I use stackables.
Also the Tirana is already in my bigger setup.
The VCO ist new and has an attractive price for what it can do, but I did not have purchased it yet.

Another thought would be to use only black panel modules that use only the 12 V of the mother psu …

Hey fam,

Looking for some real quality life advice -- I currently have a Make Noise skiff (104hp) Mother 32 and a Maths. What's next?

Logistically, I plan to keep the M32 in it's own case, and reserve the skiff for other modules.

My goals are to create unique musical textures (west coast/ambient), and some sampling / music concrete manipulation.

What I'm wondering is...

1. Should I go for the Chord next for an additional voice (or 4 -- including harmonies)?

2. Should I go ahead and go with Clouds cause I know I'll love it

3. Should I go with the Disting, because... it's a badass swiss army knife of tools.

My primary synth for the past couple years has been an OP-1. It carries a lot for me, musically. But if you had to pick just a few modules to either interface with the OP-1 (midi or audio/sample processing), what would you suggest?

Cheers!

I want to point out, that the output DA-converters are working at 8-Bit resolution. What that means is described here, around page 5: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137280
I hope this is helpful.

Edit: if you go with the multiple - I would take an active one...

PS: the uZeus only uses half of its mA with this row. Is there a way to power the whole row with the Mothers PSU?

The Mother doesn't use -12V. Hence, the mother's PSU doesn't delivers that.
But the other way around works - you can power your whole system from the µZeus. The power should be sufficient.

Apart from that I like your system. I don't know the VCO - might be nice.
You can use stackable cables instead of the passive-mult. Then a braids would fit in (also not HP-dense)
And with two more HP you could get a Rubicon, if you like FM.
RYO Penta would be a even smaller 5 step sequencer with small but dedicated 'knobs' - it's DIY though.

Selectable Panel Images

• The feature let's you select old archived panel images from the rack view.
• Modules, which have archived panel images available have two arrows to select them.
• The default status of a module panel image is HEAD. That is the behavior everybody knows. If someone uploads a new panel image that will be the new HEAD. It will overwrite the old panel and be displayed in your rack.
• If you select an older panel with the arrow buttons this panel will be automatically locked for your rack and it will not be overwritten by future changes.
• The first panel you select is always the same than the HEAD, only that it is locked.

I did some changes to make the UI more compact so that it is possible to edit panels even for 1U modules.

Caveat:

• In many cases the different facepanels are not different at all, because users uploaded them again for technical or whatever reasons.
• If you upload a new panel image that will still overwrite everybody's HEAD.

TLDR; there are two arrow buttons to change the panels images.

A swap for the Unify could be the Erica Synth Black Stereo Mixer.
Or a Synthrotek Stereo Output Mixer (which has no CV control over panning)
I recommend reading a bit into a few Muffwiggler forum posts. This one is quite interesting:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=154186
I am unsure why a multi-channel stereo mixer makes sense for you? Do you plan to mix in external sources?
If it is just for the sake of a output module I would get something smaller...

Apart from stereo (synth voice) mixing I would recommend, getting dedicated VCA's (like the µVCA) and dedicated small mixers (like Mutable Shades or Intellijel Triatt).
The optomix is a combination of the above (+ a few features), a 2-channel mixer with VC Amplification per channel and sound shaping (filtering) features per channel.
The Intellijel Linix or the Planar, also are similar in the sense that they're a combination of VCA's and mixers.

For a 2U system with two voices (like yours), with using the above mentioned modules I would get (at least):
1x µVCA (which are 2 VCA's)
1x Triatt (which is a 3 channel mixer)
1x Optomix (which is a 2 channel mixer with VCA per channel)
You can get more VCA's later

EDITED Jan 6th 2017, 16:23

Yes of course, I could fill up the rack with distings and only have to remember which function is assiged to which module.
I always wanted to pick one up, bit forgot about it.
Looks cool:

EDITED Jan 6th 2017, 12:20

Disting MK3 is a very useful companion to the Mother 32

@0netwo0netwo
transaction: persistent, receptive, perceptive, concise, prompt, considerate, trustworthy, reliable. would do it again

EDITED Jan 6th 2017, 09:10

I am thinking of building a modular row with 114 HP around the mother 32.
I think it needs:
1. Maths (alternative: one or more functions or 171-2),
2. another oszillator (E330),
3. one LFO (E355, A-147-2),
4. Power solution (uZeus?)

Do you know any modules that I am missing, or can do better?
If I would go for maximum module count the erica synths pico series would be an option:

PS: the uZeus only uses half of its mA with this row. Is there a way to power the whole row with the Mothers PSU?

Looks like this at the moment:

Thank you guys. Yes I forgot to check availability, e.g. for the unify module. I cannot really find anything similar as a good alternative though, except Sputnik Modular 6-Channel Stereo Mixer, although I don't need 6 channels maybe and the module takes much space. Can you recommend something?

I put the quadra in as classic straight forward envelopes (4) - honestly I didn't know that Maths would be such thing, I have just seen so many people using it as a multi-purpose tool. Honestly, I don't know what this thing is going to make, I was going to get it and just try what I does.

Should I rather stick to Make Noise and take Optomix instead of the Z2040? Honestly, I am used to straight forward classic modules from my virtual Nord Modular, that's why I was going to get the Z2040. I am a bit uncertain about the possibilities of the Optomix. I read that it is also a VCA, could I omit the uVCA if I take the Optomix?

thanks again in anticipation.

Oh, the same DK as in Psyche! Gotta give him a listen! Nice idea to rebuild his modular here! Has someone ever tried to rebuild stuff from Trent Reznor? ;-D

Just added this one to the list. Really mad module, much more than just a divider. Hook it up to a scope!

Just added to list. Mine is a quite scratchy, jumpy. Bought it off Cynthia in that state. I contacted Bruce about repair and he doesn't think it is worth the bother. Nice features though. Apologies for the quality of the image, it's not on the Modcan site.

EDITED Jan 5th 2017, 10:22

Just added to list

Multi-track demo made from the E370 proto-type:

-- Fastus

Holy smoke! Wow!

a belated thanks to @toneburst for the filter. good transaction and device as described. thankyou.

big thanks to @vjunker for the dave smith character module. if he has the module you want then i would recommend him mos def. thanks man for saving me some euros and sending good condition equipment. reeespect

Wogglebug is a good idea for many reasons, and the DPO sounds great through an LPG (Optomix, LxD).

Unless you know a dealer who has unify in stock, its gonna be difficult to find.
On this stage of your system, Maths and quadra are overlapping a bit, though later on you will have use for both.
I think that DPO pairs really nicely with echophon, so I would go on with that, instead of EV. Both are very pricey units, and there is good options also on the cheaper end of verbs and delays.
Dont know how you´re going to clock it, you might be needing some distribution/generator for that, random source with a clock, like wogglebug etc. is handy.
Z2040 sounds really good and Rene is fun to play with, overall its a nice to system to start with.

i bought some modules from great and awesome sellers @tagomago and @jandybala and @mopoco !!! thanx+cheers.

Every module is connected to one of four busboards on the inside of the rack. These busboards are powered by a power-supply-unit that deliveres 12V+, 12V- and 5V+. If you desire you can also provide all modules with a common CV1 and/or gate from the midi-interface.

EDITED Jan 5th 2017, 21:13

Well, I went from a MicroKorg to Eurorack in the span of 1.5 years :)
Yeah, I can hear that. Pat Martino is a crazy guy, especially how he lost his memory for awhile. I almost had a chance to see him play a few times. His playing is a bit clean for my tastes Always like to catch some of those legends when I've been in NYC at some of those storied clubs.

The thing is, modular is the thing that feels most like a physical instrument to me..also, it's mathematical, and my job and academic background is in the sciences, so it feels quite a natural blend to me. It's the intersection of physics and music. Been interested in non-linearity for many years.

Lucky you, all my electronic influences are British, basically, much better culture for it there--I'd place Aphex Twin just below Miles Davis in terms of influence..

@chaosnick

Yeah that is a leap! especially going straight from the nylon strings to the dangerous Euro 'crack' habit.

On the guitar side of things my influences would be mainly Wes Montgomery, Pat Martino and Robben ford. I'm also familiar with the players you've listed (Friday Night in San Francisco)

I've also had a long time interest in electronic music that I simply had to finally indulge. Partly due to the frustration of no longer having time to play in bands, so I needed something I could do on my own at home.

I'm still a synth noob, but it's been great fun to start over with this new mysterious pandora's box of an instrument!

I'm based in London.

Nice--I only owned my first in 2016. Where do you live? I heard something of a jazz background in there? I'm jazz but from a more acoustic/flamenco perspective..Paco de Lucia, Al di Meola and John Mclaughlin were my earliest musical heroes. I'm still the only person I've met who's gone from non-electric guitar to synths..

@chaosnick

Interesting work sir; an eccletic mix! the introduction of a Spanish guitar was unexpected but cool.

My background is as a guitar player, synths are new to me in 2016.

https://soundcloud.com/p8514

I am new here and I am about to buying my first case and first modules.
These are the moduls I am having in mind. Do they make sense? Do I miss anything important, is there something I can omit?
Thank you in anticipation.

user @loopino 100% recommended.

In my country, Italy, it's not really easy to find someone involved in this modular shit, but at the end of the day, when u find one, it's a blast.
I'm talking about user @tFunk, 100% recommended. Really good seller.
Looking to do more business with him in the future.

Proper youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/c/nickhchaos/videos

@chaosnick

Food for thought indeed! I was just checking out your rack; a refreshingly non-standard mix of modules! DAWless?

What type of music do you make?
-- Botty

Thanks; lots of trial and error/bought and sold you don't see and I've tried to avoid hype and just figure out for myself what is best. That includes both current and future--I have about 2/3 of what you see there, the other 1/3 is tentatively planned. I just use Logic for recording and minor post processing, but otherwise I find computers annoying and not conducive to music.

Here's some stuff: https://soundcloud.com/chaosnick
Some live modular:

I added the Intellijel Linix (thus guaranteeing that I will ever be typing Linux or Linix incorrectly wherever I need it the other way). The rack image should be updated if it's not in your browser's cache.

Would anyone mind giving me a patch suggestion for incorporating the Linix VCA? Note that the ADSR module is not there, yet, as it's a future add on.

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Ha. Truthfully I'm hoping there can eventually be a way to select which panel is shown per module instead of having multiple entries for every variation. There's so many duplicates as it is now.

So it begins... but the "original" actually didn't have the C/SUM out (outputs were not summed).
-- sempervirent

So it begins... but the "original" actually didn't have the C/SUM out (outputs were not summed).

seulement la partie du haut compte

As exper said, Mutable Instruments Veils and Intellijel Linix are good, clean VCAs with mixing capabilities, which is a huge plus. Also take a look at ALM Tangle Quartet, which also mixes down four audio/CV channels, and is a really clean VCA in less HP. I agree that Shelves can be shelved for the time being. If you really think you'll need more filtering than what Korgasmatron's gonna give you, check out WMD/SSF MultiMode Filter, which packs a lot of punch in 4 HP.

Right now, I am mainly using it for singular operations as I attempt to learn about modular.

Thanks to the comments here, I am looking into Intellijel's uVCF II, Linix, or the 4ms VCA matrix.

I found this tutorial to be very helpful and I'm posting it here in case someone else stumbles upon my thread and needs some similar knowledge. Why I can never have enough VCAs on YouTube.

@chaosnick

Food for thought indeed! I was just checking out your rack; a refreshingly non-standard mix of modules! DAWless?

What type of music do you make?

How are going to mix your... um... 5 different sound sources?
Or do you plan to use them strictly one at a time ;-?

You either use a Doepfer style built-in PSU or an external 'brick'/laptop style power supply unit (or wall wart in small systems) with a converter module. Both are connected to bus boards/cables inside your case that your modules plug into.

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