Both... that is the correct answer
-- Dub007

The leftover space is for a uBraids or beehive and another quad vca, but I like the way you think!


Thanks though. I could have used that info last year, shortly after I got my Tip Top Happy Ending kit and didn't realize that the rating on the PSU module is TWICE the included wall wart is rated for. I was overloading what I thought was a perfectly fine power supply because the wall wart is only rated for 1000mA but the module can handle 2000mA. I thought that was pretty poor execution on their part. Who knows who else is running this thing too hot because they grew off of that kit?


Both... that is the correct answer


so you do... didn't spot it before...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Foxtrot Duo is a new stereo VCF based on Foxtrot's three filter models (modelled on Moog ladder, Korg MS-20 and Oberheim SEM). Use it in Mono mode, and it's just like a single Foxtrot channel, or switch to Stereo for, well, stereo things. Available in limited numbers now – more to come in September.


Please help me with making a decision. Looking for a great multi channel modulation source. I want something more exciting than Batumi. Here's my rack:
ModularGrid Rack

Currently torn between Kermit MK3 and o_C. So far the pros and cons I gathered are:
o_C:
- More versatile? Many different modes for modulation. Sequencing - euclidean, random etc. Just generally lots of different features. Hemispheres. Much cheaper even compared to a second hand Kermit. Also smaller.
However - More menu diving, less hands-on.
Kermit:
Can be a great wavetable oscillator. Preset morphing. More hands-on.

That's what I gathered so far. Can someone explain just how much Kermit ground the o_C covers? Is there preset morphing or something similar in o_C that kermit can do? Wavetable oscilaltor? Any pros and cons comparing both that you can think of? Just to mention, I've had Batumi, but sold it to fund a Matriarch. Now I'm looking for more modulation again and want to try something new.

Thanks in advance!


This module is pretty dope! Made a patch and a video today. Cheers!


Thread: Eurorack

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www.youtube.com/@Gravitymike-2050


I would like to see a feature for manufacturers (or perhaps users) to "give weight, or rating" to each function of a module that is present on a specific module. Essentially, what I'm asking for, is a way to be able to filter modules on their main purpose. The purpose they are/were being marketed for.

Currently, if I am looking for a module that mainly functions as a VCA, or any function for that matter, I will get flooded with modules that have a VCA, but have about 10 different functions and just happen to also work as a VCA. It is not their main function, and is often far from the results I was looking for.

For example. Any given module could have a primary, secondary and tertiary function listed. These are factored in for the search results. Any other functions can also be tagged for, but only show when the page of a given module is loaded, not within the search results.

Perhaps there is a way to make the search function a bit more user friendly this way.


This may already exist, but asking here seems like it makes more sense than making a separate thread.

Is there an API that will allow me to return my owned module collection as a list of JSON objects, or even a CSV? I can scrape the /e/modules/find/page results but would rather just get the raw data if possible. If that doesn't exist, it'd be a nice to have an endpoint that allows for that output format.


you should leave headroom on all rails? 25-30%

-- JimHowell1970

I have a second power supply to the right of the Bartender.


you should leave headroom on all rails? 25-30% is a good idea... so when it says 1A... you should really only try to power 750mA of modules... this is to allow for inaccuracies in stated power consumption and higher inrush requirements (more power than stated needed on power up) of digital modules...

you're over on the -12v rail by nearly 15%

this may cause all sorts of issues - primarily not powering on properly... ie it won't work

this case is undepowered for it's size... especially when trying to power a lot of digital modules, it's probably fine when filled with mostly lower power drawing analog modules

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I had the pedal (Afterneath) as well. It does what it does.. well, I guess. I just found it to take up space because it got old after a while. The FX Aid (series) is a much better general, effect module; and yes, a classic. I own the Pro (a screen and storage, but at the expense of quite a bit of space). If you use more than a few effects, make sure you keep notes. I also own a Z5000 and MFx. I guess the point of asking about Afterneath was more saying I would make sure its what you want before shelling out the money... that said, if FREE, then why not?!?

In terms of other modules I reccommend.. All (or most) of my racks are public -- generally speaking, I own and like (or at least am in experimentation with if new) with all of the modules in them. Of the top of my head... I did like adding a PPEXP1 to my Pams. Pams' can do a lot... but should it always? I would maybe look into an RND Step or another dedicated S&H module.


Eurorack Go power restrictions:

  • 12 VDC Supply CAUTION: Do not exceed 1 A for each Zone, AB or C
  • 5 VDC Supply CAUTION: Do not exceed 1 A total (Zones A+B+C)
  • -12 VDC Supply CAUTION: Do not exceed 1 A total(Zones A+B+C)

Fx Aid is a classic: multifunction, transparent, very practical and easy to use.
Afterneath (I own the pedal version) is a wonderful effect: very deep, powerful and soft at the same time.
As for Pam's: its reputation speaks for itself...
I'm only talking here about tools that I know and like a lot. So three wonderful companions that I can recommend to you!

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


hey Jopair, thanks for weighing in. Yes the audio interface is to bring in outside sources. Matriarch & Sound studio 3. I "picked Afterneath" because it was free with my heavily discounted 84 hp Eurorack case. Guy I bought some stuff off was basically having a fire sale. Already having some seminmodular gear, it made sense to me that I use this 84 hp to build out utilites ans effects to go with what Ive Already got. FX aid to do Phaser/flanger/ Chorus, in small space.

Great Tips about placment for the modules! ill do that.

tarot is there as a voice if i want to play this thing as a synth, but also i liked the option for wave shapping and it can get pretty growley.

Any alternate Modules i should look into?

thanks again!


This is probably one of the most underrated modules for processing external signals and integrating with eurorack.
An unsung hero in my rack

Here are some examples where i used this module to use external external stimuli/audio as a master clock for the rest of my rack:

https://odysee.com/@Clyph_Drops:9/VITA-MASTER-CLOCK:4


Nice jam! Moskwa and Ostankino are definitely modules I'd love to try. Cheers!


The vast majority of this is going to be personal thoughts/taste; not advice.

Why the "Audio Interface"? Are you bringing in audio from Matriarch; or other sources?
What made you pick the FX aid and Afterneath? -- maybe you will be; but I'm a fan of neither.
Move Fxaid after the quad vca -- unless you know why its in front.
Can you move Pams left a spot? (audio modules next to power are more likely to introduce noise).

Never used Tarot -- probably not my cup of tea from a quick look; but again maybe its yours.


I am also building a system to complement my Matriarch and Moog sound studio 3. Looking for more effects based complements to what I already own. PLZ Roast/ Critique....point out any redundancy or anything that seems out of place or pointless. Any and all help is appreciated. Dumb Drummer got more into synths in the last few years so some practical knowlage regarding Cables/ Compatablity is certainly lacking.

Danke


Had a lot of fun with this short



MADE THIS SONG USING ONLY A DRUM LOOP FROM LUBADH,
AND CREATED INSTANT MUSIC!

Eurorack modules used:
4ms Pods 48x case
Strymon Starlab (oscillator)
Instruo Lubadh (drum loop)
Moog Mother 32 (off screen baseline)

Long version song here:
@Clyph_Drops:9/escapism:1" target="_blank">https://odysee.com/@Clyph_Drops:9/escapism:1


Instruo's modules.

I guess they're not so much 'opinionated' as as 'feature rich' though. Their circuits get pretty damn creative, which I suppose is a form of opinion.

Carn (mixer/vca) might be the least fun to talk about, but practically useful examples. There is a small switch on the back to dis/engage a limiter (soft-clipper) across the outputs. When engaged it offers 'auto-mixing' relative to disengaged as it'll tuck things in as they hit the limit. Ofc you may not want this for plenty of reasons, so they let you turn it off, but new modules come with it engaged seems the be opinion. This, to me, is best of both worlds. ability to make a decision, while also turning it off. Other opinions are the layout of the panel/s themselves. In Carn's case, each channel works subtlety (or not so subtlety) different than the others. This may be considered flexibility, more so than opinion tho... which comes at a cost of course, both financially and of brain power


Thanks, I will try it!


Second getting a Pam's early. After that... it may just depend on personal preferece/information... like do you have other voices/drums/samplers (ie. drum machine/computer/another synth) already?

point is... as someone who also 'extends into modular' from Ableton, you don't have to feel guilty about relying on other formats for some duties. modular/eurorack is incredibly flexible, but it can also be a bit like biting off more than you want to chew. looking for things that speak in the same langues (v/oct and/or 24 or 48 ppq) clock may be a more gratifying, and cheaper experience....

Personal thoughts... Consider dropping the Data (and any other module you don't KNOW you want) and get an ES-8 or ES-9. I have a Data, but can count on my finders and toes the times Ive needed to use it. eith and es8/es9, you can visualize/tune just fine on a bigger/better screen. I like using my ears though. The markets for eurorack are still strong, but not what they were a year+ ago. An es8/9 will let you interface with a daw (and its plugins) and/or VCV Rack for pretty much any module/effect already out there. If you are dead-set on not being leashed to a PC, i understand... just throwing out some scraps for thought.. 808s/909s are a dime-a-dozen and ableton isnt short on drum samples libraries. a digital sample/effect is a digital sample/effect after all... you could even get a Receive 2 if you just want to bring things into modular for whatever reason -- ie. running into data bender.

all that to say... I love the picks of Pam's, RND Step, Plaits, Data Bender, and Quad VCA. Thats not a knock the other modules, but if you already have some of this stuff in hardware, ableton or vsts, consider holding off on modules that duplicate those functions. your wallet will thank you


The benefit of adding to a semi-modular synth is that you've already got a solid base to start from. In this sense, you're not too limited by order of module purchase. The main thing I would say is to just focus on what you want the most in here and then space out the voice/effects purchases as much as possible so you've always got a good balance of sounds to modulation/utilities. Pam's is an obvious pick for one of the first modules, since it is a compact way to explore a lot of this stuff and will help organize future purchases. Same with the Quad VCA, which you will find immediate use for (especially as a way of manipulating modulation from Pam's in a tactice way).


Hello!
I am new to modular, just got my first case (TipTop Mantis) and trying to put together a synth to pair with my Moog Matriarch and Push 3 to make glitchy beats with. Planning on using the 4 CV outs from the Push for sequencing from Ableton. Roast away tbh, this is all very expensive and I'd rather hear it before I buy. I am also curious which modules I should buy first because I have to aquire the modules over time, I can't invest all at once.


ModularGrid Rack
(idk why the link shows as an older version of the rack)


a filter can go before or after the vca... whichever way sounds best for you in the current patch...

-- JimHowell1970

If you are using a filter when its self-oscilating the VCA is best after the Filter so you can shut off the notes.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


5 years ago... VCV Rack


Hi, thanks for the info!


looks right to me

sound source -> signal in of vca, envelope -> cv in of vca, vca out to monitors (or wherever - mixere, processing etc)

nb I use signal in because vcas can also be used for cv and not just audio - modulate your modulation

a filter can go before or after the vca... whichever way sounds best for you in the current patch...

this is generally the concept of modular... generate a signal, do something to it, send it somewhere - try not to mix cv into the audio path (it's possible to damage speakers), apply modulation to things

see my signature for hints on how to get the most versatility in patching for the least expense

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Hi everyone,
I am starting to build my rack and - since I am a beginner - I have some doubts about the right signal path.
My VCO is the Make Noise DPO and it does not have a gate-trigger in.
How can I control the gate? Currently - as shown in the pic - I am sending the gate from the sequencer to the Maths and from the Maths I go into the CV of the VCA.
Another question: where is the best place to insert the filter?
Thanks in advance!


I understand your situation but I do not agree. If we are allowed to make transactions we should also be allowed to value that transaction.
The lack of education of some people is another matter, and I think that the moderators are here for this, among other things, to put those people in their place.
-- ferranadsr

That's exactly the problem here.
As soon as you have had contact with someone, they can vote for you without having bought or sold anything!


I understand your situation but I do not agree. If we are allowed to make transactions we should also be allowed to value that transaction.
The lack of education of some people is another matter, and I think that the moderators are here for this, among other things, to put those people in their place.


Can i put the braids reloaded update on the original plaits or plaits clones?


I wish that users without a Unicorn account would no longer be allowed to make a ‘thumbs down’!


Hello everyone,
I don't know if this is the right place.
This is the second time I have received a negative review regarding the purchase or sale of a module without any real contact with the person.
I have written to Knut to have this corrected.
It's just annoying now.
alienalien, philip87 are the two people


I agree to the extent of allow users to request the 'availability' status be changed through some process. Nothing worse than the elation of finding a keystone module listed as currently available being turned to despair after finding a parked domain and astronomical prices on reverb.


I probably wouldn't have the MIDI module right on the side - I'd move it somewhere else and put something there that I fiddle with a lot. Go with what works, though. You'd know better than me about that at this point.


ModularGrid Rack
My 48hp system gave me a lot of joy for half a year. I found a way to synchronize the sequencer of my Subsequent 37 with Pam without MIDI (Sub37 GATE input -> STEP ADV). This enabled me to create very beautiful and complex rhythm tracks.

Over time, the desire to expand the system grew. Since I don't have the space for a large system, an 84hp case was the only option.

The following modules were added:
Intellijel µMIDI
Doepfer A-182-2
XAOC Zadar
2hp Div
ALA Beehive
Intellijel Mixup

The combination of PPW, Zadar and the Plaits clone is simply sensational. The complex sounds also let the Z5000 shine in a new light. The ability to control the system via a DAW brings additional flexibility.

I'm very happy for now and hope this feeling lasts for a while.

What do you think of my new system? What would you have done differently?



Keychain Holder, a keychain designed for synthesizer enthusiasts, inspired by Vaemi’s oscillator OSI-OP design. The Keychain Holder works with an adapter. It has a fitting at the top that allows it to be hung on the wall. The design includes lights. While the Vaemi logo in the center stays lit continuously, the Vaemi text above the jack inputs lights up one by one as you plug in the jacks. The product comes with 5 jack keychains. You can attach these jacks to the keys you use daily, and when you arrive home or at your workplace, you can hang your keys on this holder. The knob helps you adjust the overall brightness of the lights. Additionally, there is an On/Off switch.

Keychain Holder Features:

-Operates with Adapter: The Keychain Holder is ready for use by receiving power through an adapter.
-Wall-Mountable Design: It can be easily mounted on the wall thanks to the fitting at the top.
-Lighted Design: The Vaemi logo in the center stays continuously lit, while the Vaemi text above the jack inputs lights up one by one as you plug in the jacks.
-Adjustable Light Level: You can easily adjust the overall brightness of the lights with the knob.
-On/Off Switch: The product includes an On/Off switch.

Package Contents:

-1 Keychain Holder
-5 Jack Keychains
-Adapter not included

With a 12-volt adapter, it draws around 20mA of current. It operates comfortably with 12-20V, 100mA adapters.
Operating Voltage Range: 12-20V
Power Consumption: 0.24W
Dimensions: 150mm (length) x 75mm (width) x 58mm (height)

It is not a musical instrument. It is a gift item.

https://en.vaemi.net/product-page/keychain-holder-diy-or-assembled
https://reverb.com/item/84260130
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1780922689


A little unit to listen to your rack or an individual module on the go. Use headphones, or listen to the little speaker it has on board. Handy when you’re setting up for a show, listen to things before you’ve got your whole rig set up.
Mostly surface mount already installed, and the rest is pretty simple to put together, I couldn’t find a build guide, but again, it’s pretty straightforward.

One thing to note: During the demo I found that when you drive the speaker with the volume knob more than 2/3s up the power draw rises from 10-28 milliamps up to a max of a whopping 280 milliamps, which could be a problem if you’re on a tight power budget, just don’t turn it up too much. Headphone does NOT do that, it’s a safe 10-28 mAmp all the way around the dial.

Build


In short: I request that ModularGrid admins unlock manufacturer-approved module pages when users discover, with publicly available evidence, that the manufacturer is defunct.

I have come across a few modules with editing privileges locked, accessible by the manufacturer only, for which I suspected that the manufacturer had discontinued or otherwise abandoned support. Rather than start a new thread for each manufacturer, I figure that it would be better to create a dedicated thread for reporting defunct manufacturers with module entries locked for their exclusive editing privileges.

Now onto the first case. I just came across this particularly egregious instance. It seems Birdkids is now defunct, and has been since at least December of 2022. I point to this article to support this conclusion: https://synthanatomy.com/2022/12/birdkids-viennese-modular-synth-company-is-insolvent.html#:~:text=Unfortunately%2C%20we%20have%20to%20say,at%20the%20beginning%20of%20December.

Many modules of Birdkids provenance have entries that are locked under manufacturer-approved editing privileges. It behooves ModularGrid to unlock these module entries for editing by users at large.


Hello! The joy of modular is that you can create your own unique perfect little instrument. I have been so happy with my current setup. I love to make intricate compositions with almost songlike structures. My Hermod+ sequencer is perfect for that, I love it to death and will always use it. But there was one thing missing.... I was longing for a hands-on sequencer that allowed
me to improvise on it and play it like an instrument. A module that would get me out of my hea, a module that would surprise me. That is exactly why I bought the Moskwa II by Xaoc devices. I’m in love! Watch the video to see and hear what I mean.

Raaf


If you only have 1 Power supply then 1 PWR checker is all you need, if you have the odd gap in your modular case you can see through to the KonstantLab busboards with their own LEDs too.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hoping you can help....I love my case and I love a Konstant Lab PWR Checker, but should I have a PWR Checker in each row, or does one suffice to cover all three rows?


Thread: Autism Rack

I wanted to go to the Schneidersladen. I've been to the Music Store here in Cologne to test a few things, the staff were nice and they knew their stuff a bit, but it's not really just modular.
It would probably be worth the trip to Berlin. I'll see if I can manage it. But I'm already very happy with my bottom row, so I'll probably get that and then there's plenty of room to expand further. I'm in no hurry and I still have my grooveboxes. I'll slowly weave Modular into my setup.

Thanks pal 🙏🏻🌊


Thread: Autism Rack

If you are in germany and have a chance to go to Berlin you should visit "Schneidersladen" - they advise you very well and can help you to start out.

They help you to craft your vision without buying to much stuff you won't need in the end.
They help to get a clear idea of what you want and need.

This helped me a lot.

Its worth to visit a dedicated modular store with people focused on modular.
(Dont go to casual music stores, they have mostly no idea)

Greetings

Chris


...Its very difficult as well to see how far the two triggers are apart, since it's just milliseconds of difference.
How do you guys handle this issues?
-- deurstopjoris

i highly recommend to analyse the signals via some monitoring like the mordax data.
its not that cheap but its one of the most useful modules i have. it helped me out hundrets of times when i did not understand why this or that does not work like expected. Thanks to this module i learned so much about eurorack!

pretty sure with some multi channel oscilloscope you can identify the specific module(s) where the microtiming gets messed up!?