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Hi GarfieldModular,

Thank you! :)

Could you give me some examples? Play/Stop or something more complex?

Hi Mudi,

Wow a big progress you made there!

Any chance that you are going to add CV inputs to your Eurorack module for this sequencer? :-)

Some basic knobs, buttons and switches as well so one could control, let's say, the main functions not only via the iPad but via the module as well?

Interesting teaser, I can't wait for the rest to come! :-) Good luck with the progress and kind regards, Garfield.

Oh man there's just so much good stuff going on here. That bass sounds so fat and lush. It's like a musical chocolate roll.
Controlled chaos, and so much dynamic and timbral range. Beautiful interaction with the piano.
Tremendous performance! I really enjoyed listening. Thanks for sharing.

Very cool...love the setup! I have a Rackbrute 6U with a Minibrute2 (not 2S like you)...have a link to your Rackbrute setup?

EDITED Feb 27th 2023, 07:13

Hope you'll get some value out of it! And I'm always up for requests on what to build next, so feel free to suggest something.

Yes, all music in my videos is my original pieces. Only problem I have now is I put up one video every 5 days and I need to start cranking out new audio tracks to go with 'em!

The CopyCat multi from Patching Panda is a great first kit, pretty simple one to get you over the hump of finishing the first. Video in the playlist.
--C.K.

Great stuff CK, and good timing for me. Winter has properly set in and my hobby desk is almost clear of last year’s projects (just finished a wooden clock kit). I have all the Euro DIY stuff ready and I’m almost mentally prepared to try my first kit. Hopefully I can make a passive mult work more reliably than the clock… ;-)

I started watching one of your Befaco builds and the production quality of the video is great. Is that you original music in the background?

Cheers!

Awesome!

Four words. Snappy-Low-Pass-Gates!
-- pigrabbit

Thanks for the input! I looked that up and it sounds fascinating. Apparently this is a good one? https://pittsburghmodular.com/lifeforms-dynamic-impulse-filter

Any other thoughts? Does this sound like a good mix of functions to start 1) applying the envelope of one sound to another source, and 2) filtering the resulting audio following the original envelope?

Thanks everyone!

EDITED Jan 11th 2022, 19:49

Sounds heavily compressed/limited to me. Might want to add something like that to your signal chain.
-- farkas

Thanks farkas, appreciate the input. I'll probably handle that with outboard gear or in the DAW (this is strictly for recording). Cheers!

Just got the first prototype ready. Most of the work on the hw side is done.

I did some work on the SW side too. Check it out here:

Guess this is the correct thread to post this on.
I've started a YouTube playlist on my channel focused on building Eurorack modules. Didn't want to mention it until I had a few, and I'm up to 17 build videos now, so enough to make it worthwhile.

C.K. builds Eurorack

I release a kit build every 5 days, alternating between general purpose kits and Eurorack modules, so there's a new Euro build every ten days.

I am not an expert. I'm a guy who's been building electronics for 50 years (and making electric music that entire time) and hopefully these videos may help someone over a rough spot in a build or introduce someone to the build process for something they want to make.
I may get some things wrong, that's part of the, uh, fun.
I want to build every Eurorack module kit in the world, which is goal which will last forever, of course.
Take a look if this interests you.
--C.K.

EDITED Jan 11th 2022, 18:24

Thanks for your thoughts. I realize I didn't share some of my goals - I agree that if this was the only rack I planned to use for learning that a semi-modular unit would be better value. I intend to build a larger 6U rack in the next several months, aiming to master a few modules at a time. The Data unit has been very valuable to me to inspect waveforms and the harmonic spectrum, as well as debug some issues with CV coming from other gear that I have (several synthesizers and drum machines). My objective with this first unit was to move fully into the modular world, as I have several years of experience with semi-modular units and 20+ years experience as a musician. Going forward this rack will serve as a sort of "staging" rack as I learn new modules.

EDITED Jan 11th 2022, 17:21

Yes, unfortunately, everything is not perfect. But you can, for example, use a stereo mixer as a sub-mixer,like the Befaco-STMIX or 2 mono channels as stereo with hard left and right panning. And on the mixer there are cv inputs for levels. This could be used for cv controlled mute.

EDITED Jan 11th 2022, 13:35

Thank you cmb and ryanthegecko for nice comments!
I was surprised that one single oscillator could sound like this.

Fun quick patch session

Four words. Snappy-Low-Pass-Gates!

Sounds heavily compressed/limited to me. Might want to add something like that to your signal chain.

Really enjoyed that. Nicely done. That chirping sound at the end is almost exatly what my backyard sounds like on hot summer nights. :-) Cheers!

Wow! So expressive. Beautiful runs and trills. You are seriously squeezing the maximum feeling and tone from that Pluck.
Thanks for sharing.

I've always been a fan of distortion, but the closest thing I've had to it in my modular system so far is a bit of white noise mixed in with oscillators. This changed with the arrival of a Bastl Cinnamon, and I'm now having a great time making it squelch and howl...
Patch notes on the video.

EDITED Jan 10th 2022, 21:36

I went with smaller 4 channel mixers that have mute buttons/switches and stereo pan/send/receive that work better for me like Befaco Hexmix, Qu-bit Mixology and Hexinverter Mutant Hot Glue. I feed into larger mixer so works for my needs.

Hi all,

I'm totally new here. Bear with me!

I write and record "damaged pop music." I'm looking for a way to create never-before-heard percussion sounds by taking a sound source of near-constant volume and harmonic mix (say white noise, for illustration) and applying the envelope of a real percussion instrument to it. I'd also like to apply filtering that follows the envelope to give it a weird artifact or changing shimmer.

An example is this track (skip to ~3:00 when it gets noisy, and especially right at 4:09): https://thevictoriousairborne.bandcamp.com/track/the-flare-was-your-eyes Those are distorted cymbal hits (and vinyl record nonsense), but I want to take that as a sonic "what if" and see what happens when I try to recreate it (and surpass it, of course).

It seems modular is the best (only?) way to expand my capabilities here.

At a high level, what functions do I need to do something like this? I'm thinking:

• Envelope follower to extract the envelope from a percussive audio signal (which won't actually be heard)
• VCA controlled by the envelope follower to gate/boost the audio signal that will supply the final percussion sound
• VCF controlled by the envelope follower to do weird things to the "heard" percussion as the envelope decays

Does this make sense? (assume I have preamps and such for input and output of audio)

Anything I'm missing conceptually?

Thank you!

EDITED Jan 10th 2022, 21:05

Love this topic thank you farkas

Mhhm I use the hermod quiete a lot, not in that setup but it works fine tried it already.

Do you have the latest update on the hermod? What preferences did u setup? Do u use midi or usb?

Sounds like 20 Mantisses, so that's what I would ca a job well done!
-- zuggamasta

:)

Thanks again!

Sounds like 20 Mantisses, so that's what I would ca a job well done!

The new ORCA / Midi sequencing also gets some nice paraphonic chords out of this system. so much more to explore still!

Next on my DIY list is a front panel to mount the small device inside the case (power will be separate to keep the poor PSU from melting). I did a first test from foam board and now need to learn how to solder extra USB sockets to the front. This would also open up the possibility to mount the display vertically. (The display is really nice and sharp irl but always a little muddy on photos.)

Very nice, and way too short ;)

(How many HPs are hidden in the dark?)
-- zuggamasta

Thanks for listening!

How much HP?
Uhm.. Too much! (6 TipTop Mantis)

Very nice, and way too short ;)

(How many HPs are hidden in the dark?)

So today finally not just a patch, but a real jam. Hopefully I can this one turn later into a song. I thought this one is worth to share with you.

Enjoy! (Hopefully)

EDITED Jan 10th 2022, 19:52

This is awesome, @mowse. I admire your patience and your ability to let the music develop organically. Very well done.
Thanks for sharing.

Questions and comments:

The Lapsus and the Quadratt do much of the same thing. Why do you have both in this small case?
The Intellijel VCAs do not have any kind of manual control (like a bias knob). I would start out with 2 to 4 VCAs with bias controls. I'd lose the Intellijel VCAs as well as the USB port and put in an Intellijel Noise Tools unit for some Sample & Hold, slew, and noise goodness.

Scales is nice. But if you're okay with not having real time controls, a Disting EX or a Ornaments & Crime Micro will give you quantizer functionality. Plus when not needed for quantizing they can do a lot of other useful stuff. In a small case, getting more out of each module is definitely a huge bonus. Look into both the Disting EX and O&C and see if they are right for you.

I would also get a small stereo mixing module. Budget around 6 to 8 HP for that. The Quadratt can be used as a mixer. But I think of that as secondary, as the attenuverting portion is much more useful, especially with modules that don't have built in attenuverters.

The BIGGEST ISSUE.
Steppy and Mimetic need external clocks to make them function. Where is this clock going to come from? Also, where will you get the reset signal to restart them both in sync? I would put something like a Pamela's New Workout in the case. It also has multiple functions that are very useful.

Final thoughts:
Small cases seem ideal for first cases. But they are not. Larger cases allow for growth and learning. They are much more forgiving WHEN you change your mind or your level of knowledge expands. Also, small cases tend to have depth restrictions. Not all modules fit in shallow cases like a Palette. Be sure to do your homework on EVERYTHING if you really insist on a palette case.

For the size of the build and its limitations, it's not a viable set-up. It will work. But you're overpaying for the functionality. For a build this small the Data is pretty useless.

You'd be better off buying something like a Behringer Neutron for $300. You'd get more out of it, spend less, and learn more.

Ill chime is as I also own and use this mixer every day.

Things I love
The master send and return:
I can record my entire performance via this output by sending the mix to my 1010 bit box.
Another draw for me, is sending the master mix out to Morphagene and then back in. Instant fun

I do wish there was gain on the stereo channels, but I have them at set and forget, and run a sub mix into those modules to get a stereo image. The cv control on volume and pan is amazing. Its big, but its in my rack and clean. If I wanted a real mixer, I would sent everything out to my console.

i need some help

i cant figure out how i setup my squarp hermod to work with ableton,ive tried watching youtube,and going through the manual

can someone give me a step by step direction please?

Hi all I hope you are well.

I really love my pittsburgh modular 3900 and am interested in recreating it in a modular case. (For ergonomic reasons)

Does any body with experience with the synth have an idea of modules that would work well to do this?

I think the instruo csl would be a good oscillator.
Would you agree?

I am have no idea about how to imitate the binary filter and dynamic vca section ?
Thank you kindly

EDITED Jan 10th 2022, 09:44

Some feature is missing? Post your idea.
-- modulargrid

Would be nice if we could adjust both the minimum width as well as the maximum width. Never going to be one of the most used features, but if for some reason you want to see only modules that are 10hp wide or more, like you've got a gap to fill in a rack and want to fill it with something useful.

This is my first Eurorack set up. After some research I settled on a standalone synth voice, scope, and modulator. This enabled me to make some fun sounds on day 1 and learn more about the sound shapes. I decided on Maths as a first module because it is complex enough to keep me busy learning for a while, and is something to grow into.

I've used this mixer for a few years and here are some things that I really like about it.

The aux sends are indeed mono, however, I use the 2x stereo channels for stereo returns. This is common practice to only use a mono send for a delay and reverb in the hardware world even for a stereo signal. I use a Sarajewo delay for aux 1 and return the separate delay taps to A and B to get the widening. Sound amazing. For the 2nd aux, I use an FX Aid as a set and forget verb and change up the algorithms to get different timbres. Also sounds great.

Since the aux returns are freed up on the top left corner of the mixer I use one to play ambiance, in my case, a vinyl crackle from 2hp loop. You could use it though for a sub-mix. You also have another set of mix inputs for an additional sub-mix.

The A-B switches effectively double your inputs and I usually will attenuate one of the inputs externally and use the gain control for the other. Sometimes, it's not needed if modules just happened to be balanced already. An example setup is I use an Erica Hats D in the A input and control the gain there, and for B input I sub-mix Erica Drums1, Mosaic 1u Hats, and Patching Panda hats into a Mosaic 1U mixer and that mixer out goes into the B input. I can just adjust the individual hats volumes on the 1U mixer and flip to A to mute the Mosaic hats group if needed.

Each channel has CV over its VCA and panning. I use an inverted envelope to "duck" channels where needed. This is tricky though cause unless you have an envelope with inverted outputs already you have to do some things to get it to the right voltage, shape etc. Something to note is the Channels expander has CV over the gain of stereo channels it adds in addition to the VCAs, which is not the case on the main module. Comes in handy.

You can use the cue output as a send too and do tricks with that.

A huge feature only found on a few outboard mixers is a master fx send and return. I personally have a mastering chain consisting of Happy Nerding TriTone for EQ and saturation, WMD SCLPL setup for DJ style filtering, and a WMD MSCL compressor set as a limiter.

Lastly, is the ability to run line-level gear in conjunction with modular gear without the need for attenuators or line-in modules.

I also use the DB25 expander for the individual outputs, though, one downside is that the outputs are pre-fader. Good for samples, but not so much for capturing performances and being able to mix them in the DAW later. I just use the stereo outs of the mixer which go through both the main module outputs and the DB25 outputs at the same time, which means cabling can be flexible and you can record with a secondary backup device too.

My wishlist for it.
-The current Mutes module adds mute buttons, but also CV over the aux sends on channels 1-4. I just want a 2hp module that allows CV over the aux sends which is totally doable and maybe even DIY as WMD has mentioned I could ask for the pinouts.
-Clickless muting for the Mutes module. On both the Mutes and the Overseer you can get clicks. I'm not sure what goes into this, but I know it's possible because Happy Nerding has a Mutes module that doesn't click as it only engages or disengages at the zero-crossing or fades in and out (IDK, I'm no EE).
-This is personal, but I would like a set of inputs like the mix-in to sum post master inserts.
-Lastly, sometimes I have to attenuate modules before they go into the mixer because the level is so hot it's clipping the mixer already with no gain. I suspect this is because of the amount of gain they have dialed in to accommodate line-level gear. Would be cool if this was switchable on the back (I hope I'm not missing something on this).

All in all, it's pretty incredible how much went into this mixer. It just does so much more than its size lets on and though it's a good amount of HP in the rack, there's no other way to get this much functionality in that same space.

I highly recommend it.

Lugia's excellent post - especially his remarks about Eno's approach - inspired me to try to emulate the tape-loop version of generative music on my modular:

First time I made my own kick from a VCO

I agree with all that was stated in previous posts. It is really nice, high quality mixer. The only con is that there is no stereo return for aux sends. I have Pico DSP and FX Aid, both stereo outs, so I am using mono send and mix both stereo outs with Doepfer A-138s and patch them to Mix In on Performance Mixer. I really thinking about stereo channel expander as I am using a lot of stereo sources - Rings, E352, BitBox.
Another "con" is that phone output is very loud. I have it on minimum all the time. I use Sennheiser HD 25-1.
I would suggest to use potentiometer caps with pointer on gain knobs. Sometimes I can not see where the gain is. Especially when using two channels for stereo application.

Besides those little things it is amazing mixer.

EDITED Jan 9th 2022, 20:58

thanks Jim and sorry about the link. definitely i get a bigger case. you're right!
the only thought, think need midi, some devices that sport a USB port as well. so i can connect my computer directly to my Eurorack system. like µMIDI Intellijel. also a weird sequencer maybe Pam's and mimetic.
I would like to hear your thought if it's not trouble
-- tsir

you might want to look at the expert sleepers fh2 - or just look at modules on here: midi (function), usb (search field)

you'll have to sift through quite a few - make sure you get midi to cv modules and not cv to midi!

I think this is almost exactly one of the modular set-ups from Ricky Tinez's videos and he does some pretty cool shit with it so you should be good, plus more room to grow!

the salient point here is "one of the modular set-ups" - ie there are multiple - each one lasts as long as a video - they are patch specific!

EDITED Jan 9th 2022, 17:58

Another really restrained piece, nice work, had to turn up the volume at about 10 mins for max effect :)

I think this is almost exactly one of the modular set-ups from Ricky Tinez's videos and he does some pretty cool shit with it so you should be good
-- pestilent

If you have Ricky Tinez's experience and talent, and his supply of additional modules in a larger rig for when you chafe at the restrictions of a small setup...!

yeah - that's the one I thought - not on modulargrid yet

between the hermod and the mixer you need voices - vco/vcf/vcas/modulation/envelope generators etc etc and probably some sub mixers for both audio and control voltages - and after the mixer you need an audio interface to connect to your computer

I hope this what you were expecting!
-- JimHowell1970
Thanks im back in the studio tommorrow. One Thing when the modules Are connected to the hermod. How do I connect Them to the d.o.mixx also?i have the domixx connected to channels on my studiolive 1602 interface.

I think this is almost exactly one of the modular set-ups from Ricky Tinez's videos and he does some pretty cool shit with it so you should be good, plus more room to grow!

I would definitely get a bigger case tho, the mantis is a great choice.

I've had this for a few years now, I've been working on a track recently where I'm using it a lot, was working great, but then today all of a sudden the X-axis has become very noisy, as in barely moving the joystick causes crackly noise. This is with a signal going into the input. The same thing does not happen with the Y-axis, and if I disconnect the x-output and just use the y-output, the noise goes away regardless of how I move the joystick. I took the module out and visually inspected the back, but I don't see anything obviously wrong. I emailed Befaco support but was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience.