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Happy Saturday evening! Enjoy.

I think I'm almost assuredly going to get a Tanh at some point, that L-1 looks cool too thanks for the recommendation @adaris.

Not a compressor per se but I've found the DPW Limit L-1 to be useful in feedback patches. I have the Tanh as well actually, but I've found the DPW to be more handy for this purpose.

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That Instruo Tanh[3] looks like an interesting small feedback tamer.

I've been doing a ton of feedback patching lately and have had luck with the "Build Your Own Compressor" DUSG approach to keeping things under control, but I'm starting to think about getting a dedicated compressor module just for this purpose, so I'm curious: anyone have any compressor modules they think are great for feedbacking?

Thanks!

I can't let a LaMonte mention go by without saying, Tony Conrad did it first and did it better!! Drone for the people >>> Fake occult elitist drone 😛

It looks like there's one used right here on ModularGrid :)

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/offers/view/557750

Command Centre thumbnails (rack images) for the past few weeks/months(?) seem to be regenerating/refreshing erratically, with racks of the same specification rendering at different sizes,
-- AndyQ

I've figured out what triggers this behaviour - when some rack names wrap to two lines and others are on a single line. That starts screwing with what size the previews are generated at, although it affects whole "columns" of rack images. There are also issues where the rack images are not refreshed to the highest resolution - going through each individually and hitting the "update screenshot" button will refresh the image, but then image sizes (can) change again. They also revert to lower resolution versions after browser resizing or other events. Certainly, there some relatively new bugs causing the Command Centre thumbnails to be irregular and unstable - all of this stuff was fine previously (at least until late-ish 2021)

Colored noise from A-118-2 through Next Phase phaser to Morgasmatron’s Low Pass Filter.
A-118-2’s Sample & Hold modulates Morgasmatron’s cutoff frequency.
Wave’s cycle adjusted by Next Phase’s LFO.
Final audio passes through Desmodus Versio reverb to Roland 531 output.

Modules used:
Doepfer A-118-2
AJH Synth Next Phase
Intellijel Morgasmatron
Noise Engineering Desmodus Versio
Roland SYSTEM-500 531

Nice!
Will check it out somewhere tomorrow.

Oh... Is it possible to change "M10C" into "M01C" ?

I’ll take a listen tonight ❤️.
Thank you for the work on this!

A nice unit today, a pingable LFO from 4MS. It’s actually 4 LFOs, each one can be tap-tempo’d or “pinged” by an external voltage source to set the rate.
Good slew action too.
A long demo section at the end, with ‘scope traces, there are some interesting slopes to the curves when you use the slew knobs.
Moderate complexity build.
Recommended
C.K. builds a Quad Pingable LFO from 4MS

i´ve already get all modules but data bender, swn and synapse and im very happy about all and each one

hi everybody, finally i deciced to replace synapse by a quad vca and some efects or something, what do you think about?
i mean i ´m gonna use the system in the studio with others systems but i wanna make this system self-suficient for gigs and i think synapse needs another modulators to be usable, maybe not? please
your contribution will be really very appreciate

Will get that fixed @JimHowell1970. @Quantum_Eraser I checked my email and I never got a WeTransfer from you. If you can send one over to the email I sent you here we can slot it in.

So for now (and things will change in the long run ^^) I´d look at your setup this way:

Without computer PNW is a good choice, although I don´t have one. My concept is around a drum machine on steroids which integrates into a bigger setup, so external clock and computer. I also decided to eliminate hp as a limiting factor, which led to different choices. Maybe others can chime in on function per hp efficiency.

That said, for sequencing with variations: Metron has probability, so a certain amount of randomness is already in. It´s probably too much of an hp hog in 84, but I predict your system may grow bigger over time :D. Take a look at Euclidian Circles (vpme), Knight´s Gallop (shakmat) and Numeric or Zularic Repetitor (noise engineering). Reserve one or two tracks/sequencers for accents so you can treat them as split from the gate patterns if you want to. Like: standard 16th HH, then add a 7 step accent pattern or whatnot.

No sampling, but loops :) does not compute ^^.

As for mixing and effects, it depends on your workflow. For me, Kick is essential and this also comes with a rumble chain. I played around in Ableton to find out what I need and then built that with modules. That alone could eat 84hp ^^. A quick and very reliable way for kick is the jomox modbase, but there are many other good choices as well. It´s a deep module though, check whether it fits your case. I like my mutant drum modules as well, less experimental than, say, wmd, but spot on if your sounds are "around x0x". Effects depend. You may want to get some shared options like delay and reverb, but also have dedicated fx for "that clap every 4 bars". Also think about whether you really want to mix IN the case. The biggest reason would be mix automation/modulation. If you don´t really do that, an external mixer is way cheaper and offers more function wise (like 3-4 band eq, a number if aux channels etc). For Euro, I can recommend wmd performance mixer (no eq though) and befaco hexmix).

I don´t necessarily think a compressor needs to be slapped on everything, but found that it can help shaping the transients beyond what is normally given in any sound source. My advice is to build things in virtual, see what works, what you like and then build that in hardware. For example, I use a dedicated compressor (Lollipop) on Kick and Clap mainly to shape transient and texture. MSCL on the other hand is sitting on the drum+bass submix for saturation and pump.

Percussions: You will get most out of modules that offer a high level of modulation control. Plonk comes to mind. I´m sure there is tons of other options, I just found the name of the module is reason enough :D.

Oh and the most general advice: For every hp of sound plan 2-4hp of helper modules to really get to the fun stuff. For example: I 1:7 mult the modbase output to 3 elements of rumble chain, so I can play with those 4 elements. Adding some CV to the various components to introduce changes over 2, 4 or 8 bars is fun. Also multing the kick trigger signal to activate envelopes+VCAs, poor man´s compressor. Likewise, using metrons gates, triggers and CVs to rhythmically modulate sound changes... you get the idea. While a compressor would pump based on the actual audio signal, ENV+VCA could either follow a trigger pattern of a sound or could do something slightly - or completely - different. Put that on a pad sound for example... etc.

In my book using MSCL to just avoid clipping is an abuse :D. Just use an attenuator/vca/mixer and proper gainstaging if you run into level issues (although those can be nice in the sense of saturation).

You can convert triggers from Euclidean Circle to gates of different length with the disting H-6 algo. Use an LFO to control the length of gates.

@troux - can you please delete the last character (4) of my track title - it's the mix number - not part of the title!

@Quantum_Eraser I'll take a look and get back to you. Should be easy to correct.

Hi AcdNrg!

Thank you for your response and it definitely helps :-)

To answer your questions; I'm more interested in sequencing drums, mostly controlling the patterns with a touch of added randomness. There is no computer involved.

EDM is my main focus and not really too interested in sampling at this juncture.

Definitely interested in loops.

I'd like to mix and apply fx on the board but I'm not too sure how that works in my current setup. Any advice would be welcome :-)

Thank you for the mantis and metron suggestions. And I'm not too sure how the MSCL works in my setup - naively, I believed all the sounds wouldn't clip if I used a compressor. Do you think I should remove the MSCL module or swap out some existing modules to facilitate its use?

Thank you again for your answer!

Welcome to Euroland :)

The question leads to 1000 answers, but that´s normal at the beginning. What comes to mind:

• Is your interest in drums more about the drum sounds or sequencing drums?
• Controlled patterns or generative/random/euclidian?
• Is a computer involved?
• What kind of drumming are we talking about: EDM, Ambient, Percussions etc?
• Interested in sampling?
• Loops or individual sounds?
• How do you mix and apply fx?

I ended up with a full mantis case for drums, including a metron sequencer for grid programming and some modules for controlled randomness. Focussed on techno, I added some fx for a rumble chain (delay, reverb, eq, compressor) and a mixer to get a drums submix.

On the MSCL: Great module and you get the best results utilizing the sidechain (for example to duck the bassline). Not sure how this will be done in your setup.

Hope this helps!

Awesome. Thanks for putting this together.

hmm my Track is missing

Thanks for the suggestions.
Yesterday night I played the synth again and everything was normal (same patch)...
I think some patch cables are not working properly...
I have to buy some new ones...thanks

What Jim said ;-)

I do, you can, use Euclidean patterns to drive other things that create pitch.... send those Euclid triggers to an Arpeggiator or other pitch sequencer, even send them to a Turing machine + Quantizer or Marbles etc. You can dial in different patterns on the Euclidean or control those via CV for always evolving patterns.

-- wishbonebrewery

exactly - I don't have euclidean circles - but that's what I'd do with it if I had one!

what exactly do you mean by 'get tonal rhythms out of euclidean circles'?

do you mean melody? - I'd suspect that is really bloody difficult considering that euclidean circles is a trigger sequencer and as such does not sequence pitch...

-- JimHowell1970

What Jim said ;-)

I do, you can, use Euclidean patterns to drive other things that create pitch.... send those Euclid triggers to an Arpeggiator or other pitch sequencer, even send them to a Turing machine + Quantizer or Marbles etc. You can dial in different patterns on the Euclidean or control those via CV for always evolving patterns.

Well, for all my work and research there's no teacher like experience. I've all but decided to get a larger case. At the same time there is this fringe addiction forming that I have to curtail now before it gets out of hand. I certainly don't want a wall covered in modules. But I will go there if I'm not cautious of the draw already.

It has taken some time to figure out how to get tonal rhythms out of the euclidean circles without the help of a midi style quantizer that can hold notes for me. I finally managed a patch that was pseudo decent. But I have to have something that will let me cycle through at least 16 steps with assigned notes. That means a larger case, and if I'm going to do that I might as well throw in another oscillator, kick, snare, echo, delay, etc. Ugh.

Let it stop with that.
Atomket.

-- atomkey

you may not want a wall full of modules - but you may find you need one!!!

what exactly do you mean by 'get tonal rhythms out of euclidean circles'?

do you mean melody? - I'd suspect that is really bloody difficult considering that euclidean circles is a trigger sequencer and as such does not sequence pitch...

@GarfieldModular

same shop they opened a branch in spain recently to get round brexit
I'll have a look and post the url for you!

here it is: https://eu.elevatorsound.com/

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yeah - it's our native language round here!!!
they are great as 'mission specific' satellite cases - but near useless as starter cases - unless you want to copy a specific patch from an influencer and only do that - which kind of defeats the idea of modular!!
-- JimHowell1970
Well, for all my work and research there's no teacher like experience. I've all but decided to get a larger case. At the same time there is this fringe addiction forming that I have to curtail now before it gets out of hand. I certainly don't want a wall covered in modules. But I will go there if I'm not cautious of the draw already.

It has taken some time to figure out how to get tonal rhythms out of the euclidean circles without the help of a midi style quantizer that can hold notes for me. I finally managed a patch that was pseudo decent. But I have to have something that will let me cycle through at least 16 steps with assigned notes. That means a larger case, and if I'm going to do that I might as well throw in another oscillator, kick, snare, echo, delay, etc. Ugh.

Let it stop with that.
Atomket.

We're live! Sorry for the delays you all, but happy to get this out, excellent work for everyone in 2021 :)

https://communitymodularelectronic.bandcamp.com/album/best-of-modular-grid-2021-cme-032

Haven't shared any new music in a while, so here's a glitchy rhythmic improv that I recorded today. I stumbled into a few cool grooves along the way.
Gear list includes: RD-8, Data Bender, Sample Drum, Crucible, and E352. Recorded into a Tascam Model 12. I recently went DAWless, and the Tascam is a godsend. Really cool piece of gear.
Thanks for listening. No worries if it's not your thing. Have a great weekend everyone.

Hey Jim,

I haven't heard from Elevator Sound before, so I directly checked it out but em... elevatorsound.eu doesn't seem to exist. I found elevatorsound.com a synthesizer shop that's also called Elevator Sound so I guess it's the same one ;-) They are located in Bristol, UK though, which is a bit of a pity because of Brexit and import duties.

They have a few module brands that are rather unknown here in Germany, so I have bookmarked them, thank you very much for pointing them out to me. Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi,

Completely new to Eurorack. I've enjoyed playing with VCV and have watched a bunch of videos. I recently took the plunge and bought a 3U 84HP skiff case (54mm depth). Now I'm a little out of my depth on how to fill it. I mostly want to focus on drums but have the ability to generate other non-drum stuff too. Here's my first attempt. I would be grateful if anyone can steer me in the right direction:

Click for the details

Thank you!

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Hi! I'm working with Steve on getting this one out. We are pushing hard to get it released very very soon. One thing that is super important to me is to make sure every artist appears in the description with a link to where people can find their work. I'm missing a few contributers.

M10C - (Provided me links)
Jim Howell - (Provided me links)
TumeniKnobs - (Provided me links)
Basil -
Solitare ou Solidaire - (Provided me links)

I'm going to go through and find some links I can use, but please. If you are on this list, let me know what link you would like me to direct listeners to. This is the best and most effective way I can give back to artists who contribute. Thanks so much and much love to Steve Hand for making this happen.

EDIT: Edited to update list.

EDITED Feb 4th 2022, 20:02

You can take care of a lot of the "eye candy" bit by making sure all of your panels are the same color, and/or matching knobs where possible. I've done that with my system (having the same passion for visual order) and it looks great. Swapping out Intellijel knobs for Mutable knobs, for instance, is really simple and effective.

OK - doesn't sound like it's braids or the PH osc then!

what happens if you only connect braids to the mixer and then to the output module?

what happens if you connect both modules to the mixer but into different inputs??

do you have other sound sources you could try with the mixer, maybe a friend has one if you don't?

do you have another mixer you could try with the sound sources, again maybe a friend has one if you don't?

have you tried changing the power header that the mixer is plugged into??

I don't have Euclidean Circles - did it have jumpers that you removed to plug the expander in?? and you haven't replaced them - just a thought - otherwise I'd contact the manufacturer!

Ni Noctopolis,

Wow, that's great that they have the 281t currently on stock! (Just seen on their website) However without the Euro currency, losing money on the currency exchange and the rather high prices in Sweden, I will consider this as a plan B, if let's say by the end of this year the modules are still not available in Germany ;-)

Thanks for putting this to our attention though, it's good to know it has arrived in Europe too, so there is still hope for us :-D
Have fun with your 258t and kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

hey Garfield - did you try elevatorsound.eu - opened recently in Spain - they had some that had not been pre-ordered available - for at least a few days after the pre-orders were sent out and almost everywhere else sold out!

I get the sarcasm now.
Completed with this size case, it's obvious that unless you want to do one thing... you need much more real estate.
-- atomkey

yeah - it's our native language round here!!!

all those youtube influencers are deceptive - most of them have massive cases - pull a few modules out to demo with a specific patch in cases they were given by the manufacturers

they are great as 'mission specific' satellite cases - but near useless as starter cases - unless you want to copy a specific patch from an influencer and only do that - which kind of defeats the idea of modular!!

Hi
The braids is original...
Yesterday I tried different configuration...
Basically if I connect the oscillators (both the waveform and the breids) directly to the out module the volume is good.
If I connect them to the mixer and then from the mixer to the out module the volume is really low...some notes cannot be heard at all....I use headphones..
Is it a strange behavior ?

Thanks! I'm trying to do more live streaming sessions this year.

Hope you enjoy this evolving downtempo jam session…

Hi all just seeing if anyone knows what's happening here, my Euclidian Circles ver.2 was working fine, I added the Expander and it all worked fine, the problem is now that I don't want to use the expander, my Euclidian circles outputs no triggers, it receives clock, rests, but no triggers, unless I hook the expander back up. Then it all works again....any ideas would be apreciated...

Ni Noctopolis,

Wow, that's great that they have the 281t currently on stock! (Just seen on their website) However without the Euro currency, losing money on the currency exchange and the rather high prices in Sweden, I will consider this as a plan B, if let's say by the end of this year the modules are still not available in Germany ;-)

Thanks for putting this to our attention though, it's good to know it has arrived in Europe too, so there is still hope for us :-D
Have fun with your 258t and kind regards, Garfield.

I get the sarcasm now.
Completed with this size case, it's obvious that unless you want to do one thing... you need much more real estate.

for some reason I didn't see the modules earlier...

too many tiny modules for me - especially things that I would most want more of - utilities

nice matrix mixer though - big - I hear it can get cramped though if you use the vca ins and then try to wiggle the knobs

I don't get the workflow thing at all - seems more like constraint - I think I'd find myself reaching for things that weren't - end up having all the small cases strewn all over the place and plugged in and just get annoyed by it

I think you'd be substantially better off with 2 mantis and maybe the 0-ctrl

is the braids an original or a clone?
have you tried different power slots on the bus board?
do you have an amplifier? some vcas - veils or intellijel quad may help?

Someone knows if is it discontinued?
I didn't find stock anywhere :(
-- nokulture

Dave makes these in batches, so even pre-COVID they tended to be available in episodic spurts. And given the current parts shortage, I’m not surprised to see that this module is currently unavailable, like almost everything else, especially other digital modules.

If you want some specifics you could inquire directly with Dave himself. He’s been responsive to me about such inquiries in the past.

EDITED Feb 3rd 2022, 19:05

Hi there, like sujested by the tittle, I've unlocked 10 gidden secrets bout the Quadrantid Swarm of Eowave. The video is in french but it has english subs.

Someone knows if is it discontinued?
I didn't find stock anywhere :(