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more switches! they are so useful for automating transitions between different sections of a composition, or making live adjustments. Since you already have Boss Bow Two for sequential switching, Would consider some simpler bi-directional 1->2 (or 2 -> 1) switches. I just picked up the Instruo Tain and really love it. WMD S3lekt and Acid Rain Switchblade are also popular (although the switchblade isnt bi-directional).
-- stumblefoot

Thanks for this suggestion! I'm going to watch a few videos on the ones you mentioned and the Nonlinearcircuits Chopper.

My understanding is that the circuits are identical, only the aesthetics are different.

First, in reference to your other post, I think you will discover why so many people stick with the bigger/more popular names in the modular community... because they are available. Many of the modules you have chosen here are discontinued (Cjwemann, ZVex, Error Instruments, Folktek) and will be very hard to source. Even if you find them on the used market, you will likely pay a $$$ premium versus something that is readily available and will perform a similar task. Sure, the cheaper or more plentiful modules in production may not have the same niche or "cool" factor, but the point is the music, not the name on the faceplate.
I'll take a look at your arrangement and look for missing utilities etc. later today. Some of the other folks here will probably have some common beginner guidance on that.
Have fun and good luck!

I use a ravpower to power 2 4MS Pod 64X.

Picture

Nice. :)
Well, to save anyone from further confusion I unlisted it now, but it is still available for you of course.

Best,

KNYST

Ah, didn't realize I'd made it Public. Haha. This is a custom panel I made for two boards from frequency central. Their 100M and 700M filters under one panel.

A one off build.

EDITED Jun 9th 2021, 08:42

This looks like a Malekko/Roland panel to me. What's the story?

Hi,

I was wondering if there are any differences in the tip top audio versions of their drum modules.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-bd808-white
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-bd808

Any differences other then the aesthetics ones?

My question is valid for all the modules within the serie

thanks
Matteo

more switches! they are so useful for automating transitions between different sections of a composition, or making live adjustments. Since you already have Boss Bow Two for sequential switching, Would consider some simpler bi-directional 1->2 (or 2 -> 1) switches. I just picked up the Instruo Tain and really love it. WMD S3lekt and Acid Rain Switchblade are also popular (although the switchblade isnt bi-directional).

Thanks Garfield!

Ok so the actual setup for this patch is really simple yet powerful. I feed the output from Plaits into Rings. Then from Rings, I patch the output from odd to Mimeophon and the output to a channel on the Qu-bit Mixology. I create a second patch from the Rings even output to the Happy Nerding FX Aid XL input and then send out to another channel on the mixer. This step is to patch the 1v/oct on the Rings to the X1 input on the Marbles for random modulation. I play this and gradually change settings on the Marbles parameters, Rings and keep same model on Plaits as well as slowly changing values on the two effects modules. I was amazed at how cool just one oscillator module can sound when the signal is split into two channels and heavily modulated slowly over time! So fun.

@Lugia @Jim hope you liked it as well

EDITED Jun 9th 2021, 04:20

I feel like my subconscious has been looking for a Throbbing Gristle module already... I'll check vids on these recommendations right now. Also I made a new post (sorry for so many I'm excited) with a dream rack that I'd love feedback on. Check it out!

and @sacguy71 I agree—I think there's a huge temptation among techy Eurorack builders to start their own brand, but with the element of reliability, it's definitely a 1%er game. You're right about more promotion being needed. It's such a niche community that promotion should be pretty straight forward; spend the money at the right podcasts, YouTube channels, sites like these. Seems like at that point the real game is having an amazing product. No one wants to buy some regular EG or VCA from an up-and-comer, we want to hit Happy Nerding or Pittsburgh for that. Aesthetics matter too—I personally find Tiptop's faceplates hideous and therefore won't be buying. I think to really make it work, you go the Folktek or Error route and just do something so unique it can't be ignored. Who knows if those guys are even making a livable income at it though.

Any other Halo references out here in the rack archive?

I decided to use the maximum HP offered non-premium accounts and fit in everything that excites me at once, with utilities of course. It was a great fun, and a great way to test my understanding of functions and utilities thus far.

Rows in a nutshell—
First: oscillators, envelopes, mixers
Second: drums, sequencer
Third: effects
Fourth: touch controller, filters, VCAs

I heard stupid questions are encouraged here, so tear it to shreds. I have no idea if this ordering makes any sense at all but that's why I'm here.

One specific question I have is whether I need more sequencing gear. I know the USTA has a quantizer and clock but maybe I need two separate sequencers for drums and oscillators?

EDITED Jun 9th 2021, 02:44

The FSS MTX pin matrix looks cool

Yea Jim’s right you don’t need a clock or quantizer if you already have the Eloquencer. Great sequencer by the way. I’m actually looking to get another matrix mixer in the future and more support modules like a comparator and another vca mixer.

Thanks, I'm checking FSS out as we speak. What are your favorites from them? I love hearing recs of companies I haven't heard of yet because it seems like of the thousands of modules shown on this site, people are almost afraid to get anything that isn't one of the top say 20 brands.
-- JX5JX5

The Recombination Engine is probably my favorite FSS module. It's a unique take on an analog triple oscillator. All of their stuff has an interesting approach though. The Gristleizer filter and VCA are pretty fun too (especially if you are a fan of Throbbing Gristle). Schlappi Engineering makes really cool/noisy modules too. The 100 Grit filter is on my radar for later in the year.

Correct. The bottom row. Thanks again! I'll have a look at some VCAs and matrix mixers.

Hi Nokulture,

Oh this is a beautiful and playful jam. Must have been a lot of fun when you were busy with it :-) So many nice interesting sounds you are using here and I am impressed by the recording quality other than perhaps a bit too much on the left channel, it sounds really crystal clear, nice! How did you manage to get that crystal clearness in your recording?

I can't wait to hear more done from your hands and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Nice video and you got an interesting melody going on there, how did you manage to do that? Random created or did you use a kind of Midi file or... how? :-)

Almost sounds like some violin/cello kind of symphony strings!

It's great to see you here at work and have a good idea of the modules you are using. Thank you very much for sharing that with us! Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Gabor,

Interesting the way you approached it and it worked out very well indeed :-)

Well, I can't wait for your next video with hopefully some more nice and interesting sounds! Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Baltergeist,

Please send my regards to Neil and tell him he did an excellent job :-) So why you guys don't start a jazz band? Add a drummer and there you go! Becoming the best Jazz band of... Australia :-) You stay down under right?

Would be nice to hear more from you both, thanks again and kind regards, Garfield.

i take it you mean the bottom row?

to me the quantizer and clock seem overkill when eloquencer will do both these

replace with mixers and quad cascading vcas (veils for example)

i would definitely keep the quad vca - but i'd swap to veils

@JX5JX5 me too and small firms need to get more involved with the modular community to promote their products if we don't hear about them then we cannot buy their new boutique modules, right? All the big players started small at one time. Right now, I have a module from Abstract Data never heard of them before but wanted a super modulator and they came across in few videos.

Thanks, I'm checking FSS out as we speak. What are your favorites from them? I love hearing recs of companies I haven't heard of yet because it seems like of the thousands of modules shown on this site, people are almost afraid to get anything that isn't one of the top say 20 brands. ALM, IME, Make Noise, Bastl, Noise Engineering, Cwejman, Tiptop, Intellijel, Endorphines, Frap, 4ms, Bastl, Happy Nerding, Roland, Doepfer, Mutable, Erica, WMD, Instruo, Malekko, XAOC, Rossum. There's 500 more though lol

I've jammed around a couple of sequences from my hermod.
Love so much the simple and beauty fm synth sounds from Rings, I've used one from bassline and the other one to the lead melody.
I've found so useful tain + triplatt to changing sounds in live on plonk, so there, I could play a programmed sequence from hermod, but thanks to tain+triplatt changing manually the send voltage, so I could make fills and changes from the first melody, so fun.

What's differents uses do you find around switches?

Right on. Sounds cool. Be sure to share some of your tracks here.
Yeah, I wouldn't set any artificial boundaries. Just do your research and find what works best for the sound you need regardless of analog/digital. The Error Instruments stuff is pretty wild. For what you are doing, take a look at Future Sound Systems stuff too (I'm the forum's resident Future Sound Systems fanboy. Haha).
Have fun and good luck.

What kind of music are you making?
-- farkas

For my current project I've been creating two-to-four bar synth motifs in Ableton, adding live a drum part (I'm a drummer), looping it and doing spoken word verses on top. It's got a dark industrial feel, but I still try to be musical and keep some replay value—I love glitchy/chaotic sounds but similar artists seem to be just trying to make people's ears bleed.

I've done this using my beloved DSI Mopho x4 and various plugins (Arturia, u-he, etc.) for a while, and after thinking long and hard about what my next hardware synth should be, I decided that instead of dropping $2-3k on one new DSI or a fragile vintage piece that I already have a great emulation of, I can spend that money starting a Eurorack and really make sounds no one has ever heard. After watching hundreds of Eurorack vids, I really think this is the best investment for my intentions of creating those haunting, hypnotic loops. Planning to start with an Erica tube VCO, Error Liquid Glitcher, Folktek Matter, Maths, maybe a Squarp Rample, and mixer/EG/utilities.

Hi,

To be perfectly honest, it looks pretty solid! Maybe add a matrix cv mixer? I use a 4ms VCA Matrix mixer which gives me 16 VCA CV options plus mute controls and 4 CV inputs/outputs. Doepfer makes a great affordable matrix mixer and Livestock Electronics Maze mixer looks like a cool cv matrix mixer module as well.

Some great LFOs that I really like so far:

Batumi with Poti expander for quad channel modulation
Abstract Data ADE 32 Octocontroller can modulate up to 8 outputs!
IME Kermit MK2 has quad channel LFO, S&H, random modulation and more plus create and load custom wave forms too
Acid Rain Technologies Maestro- six channel modulation with program shapes and pattern of LFO and super fun to use

The Erica Black Octasource is on my shortlist for next purchase. Give it a look.

Hi,

You can never have too many LFO´s right? :-)

The thing is, i do have a lot of modulation already, but i do miss having dedicated LFO´s.
I like the idea of Just friends, Tides 2 and Ochd, to control several LFO´s together to create movement, like waves or undulations.
My thought was that SWN would solve that problem, and it kind of does, but not. And both Zadar and Pams can do it sort of.

Either i get Quadrax, Batumi, Just Friends, Ochd or Tides 2.

What would you get if you made this kind of ambient music to create movement? It is the 2014 Tides that is supposed to leave my rack after a long duty period.

Thank you for your help!

This is my rack:

This is the type of sounds i make

That’s true but also limiting. You’d miss out on great modules from IME/Harvestman and Mutable Instruments like Piston Honda and Plaits which are digital and sound amazing while providing countless sound crafting options. That said, I do like analog modules like Rossum Trident and Moog modular.

What kind of music are you making?

No, it really doesn't matter and tone is near impossible to to tell the difference now.

-- sacguy71

My point here is that—regardless of the long debated difference in signal character—making an all-analog rule would lead me to a completely different rack of modules than if I didn’t

No, it really doesn't matter and tone is near impossible to to tell the difference now.

My advice is to figure out what you need your rack to do, and then buy the best version of the module that does that thing.
Analog... digital... doesn't really matter as long as you can accomplish your musical goal. If you need a resonator like Rings or something, it's gonna be really hard to do that with analog.
Have fun and good luck.

I’m not trying to have the perpetual analog vs. digital debate again, I have nothing against digital and I’m thrilled with a lot of the things people have done with digital modules.

But given the sea of different modules available, everyone has to make those “arbitrary” decisions for their rack’s limitations to some extent. The decision to stay fully analog is a mostly arbitrary but fun one, and you’re sure to get a certain sound that you wouldn’t if you melded analog and digital ones together.

So my questions are somewhat simple—any of you have experience doing it? Is it significantly more expensive? Is it terribly limiting?

I mean, the reason I’m going Eurorack instead of MU is that I want to take advantage of all the crazy innovative shit in Euro rather than the somewhat traditionalist, more often analog MU stuff. I don’t wanna be glued to only two or three brands. But then I also like the idea of starting with analog modules and later putting digital stuff in its own row.

More importantly, it’s been really hard for me to even know which Euro modules are fully analog. So many have digital components that I don’t even know if the vacuum tube ones are! Any tips on how to figure it out somewhat easily without elite knowledge of circuitry?

I posted a few months back and got some good advice from JimHowell1970 and Lugia about how to get self-modulation and add randomness to what I felt was too structured and monotonous. This week I decided to purchase a second Mantis case. The first 3 rows are modules that I already own. The last row is an expansion of utility modules were either recommended to me, or that I think I need. I'm making mostly ambient stuff and acid and playing it over an external drum machine (TR8s) and a few other desktop synths. The oscilloscope is mainly to help me learn what is happening. I'm looking for holes in my plan. Is there anything I should have that's not here? Anything I should get rid of? I'm still pretty new to this - maybe a year in now.

I have C4rbn as well, but most of my VCO's are stereo. I didn't really warm up to the C4rbn right away, but it's a filter with a lot of character. I have probably used my Vult Freak the most, and now I have two filters with VCA's.

Fun ambient patch using Happy Nerding FX Aid XL and Make Noise Mimeophon with Plaits/Rings/Marbles

Hi all, I'm putting together a system for both music-making and teaching. We already have a few synths in the department, and I wanted the modular to be a bit different.

The Mother 32 will stay outside the rack, as to allow individual use, and I went with the 104 HP case for future expansion.

My sticking points are whether I need the quad VCA, or a more simple one would suffice (and save some £££)

I would appreciate any advice you have, and perhaps where to go next to fill the rest of the case, ideally with more modulation and effect processors. I would avoid Make Noise in this system, as we eventually plan to get a Shared System (unless you think any of their modules that's worth doubling up?)

Thanks in advance!

Awesome bang for buck. This just replaced my Popple. Packed with features, and the quality seems excellent too.
-- mntbighker

I agree. I have this and the WMD C4rbn and am extremely happy with both so far. I even considered getting two of the Ikaries instead of it and the C4rbn, and I think that would have been just fine too.

Thanks

Exploding Shed also has a lot of them in stock!
https://www.exploding-shed.com/shop-catalogue/4ms-pod-cases/

You can try it in this Berlin located store:

https://schneidersladen.de/en/eurorack-modular-3u/eurorack-modular-cases/?p=1&o=5&n=12&s=4

The only pod currently unavailable ist the 4ms Pod 40X (unpowered).

Hi,

Anyone knows where i can buy 4ms pods in europe (not UK) ?

thanks
ciao

Hi Gabor,

Oh that's a nice start of your track that sound, that introduction, nice touch!

I am always amazed to watch your videos, how can you be so creative and keep coming up with such interesting things? :-) Making it yet perfectly in harmony with the sound! :-)

Lovely jam, thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

Thank you, again, for your feedback, Garfield ☺️ This time the images
were captured first, I just loved
those tulips + tested my new phone’s cam. The music came two
weeks later and when I finished it
I realized the tulips belong with the tunes and the concept of “from
colorless to color” kind of
presented itself to me ☺️

Thanks again and all the best :)

Thank you, Garfield! That is too kind of you!

A gentleman named Neil Welch tracked the sax for me in his home studio. I hope to have him on a couple more.

Hi Gabor,

Oh that's a nice start of your track that sound, that introduction, nice touch!

I am always amazed to watch your videos, how can you be so creative and keep coming up with such interesting things? :-) Making it yet perfectly in harmony with the sound! :-)

Lovely jam, thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Baltergeist,

Two interesting tracks. With the first track I was thinking that actually no matter what you are able to do with your Cocoquantus, you are always be able to let me sit at the tip of my chair and listen what you are delivering us here :-) Very intriguing.

The second track is a great jazz track that, in my opinion, can keep up with the great jazz names and producers, this is seriously beautifully done! I love this! Did you play the sax or did you use samples?

After the just beautiful weekend we experienced here at the You section, I thought this can't be topped, but you just did it and that on a Monday! :-D

Thanks a lot for sharing this great material and kind regards, Garfield.