thanks everyone. much appreciated. and yielding some unknown results. great stuff. anyone else with some other ideas? just to see if there's anything else out there? cheers....
Hey There polnochkoshka, great review! I'm having a strange problem with tuning drift with my Karl Marx (Tempco version). Did you deal with that at all? After tuning it up, it drifts about a minor 3rd over 15 minutes....
Hey All,
I got a killer deal on this PM 104 hp skiff and Clouds so I decided to build a rack for the studio around it. I was just looking for any ideas anyone may have on where to take this to make a decent ambient or down tempo rig? I have a MicroBrute to supplement some of the functions but I ultimately would like to break away from it. Any advice you could give would be awesome. The Picos on the rack are on pre order.
Thanks,
Derek
Just a little planning on something i most likely not be able to purchase anytime soon.
A Make Noise DPO as a little bit weirder, and a few simple Doepfer-VCOs with a mixer and a MIDI-Interface in the first row.
All the Modulation Sources in the second row, 4 ADSRs in 2 dual ADSRs from Intellijel, 4 simple LFOs, 4 simple Decay Envelopes, a Maths and a Quadra AD/AHR/AD Loop Envelope.
Some important stuff in the last row, the heart of the system, the Intellijel Metropolis Sequencer, some Doepfer Filters (Wasp Multimode Filter, SSM 24dB LP and 18dB LP), another Mixer and a dual VCA.
Some multiples and a little bit of space left finish off this dream of a Modular Synthesizer.
planned to work together with a Microbrute, so not a lot of VCAs, kinda planned for a single, monophonic, living, moving, fat Synth-Voice.
I saw these Make Noise Maths Videos via a re-tweet from Make Noise. You may have already seen them, if you're active on Twitter, but I thought I'd share in case anyone missed them. Looks like they based on the patches in the illustrated guide to Maths that lives on Muffwiggler.
That makes me think, is there a way to see which racks have the most instances of Maths? I personally have one of the old style and one of the new style, plus a Function, but I imagine there are people out there with more than two.
When creating a new rack it would be very practical to be able to input the power qualifications of your case (as an optional requirement) so power warnings are particular to your current setup, when modules exceed your case's power possibilities.
-- ParanormalPatroler
Yes. +1. Great idea.
I actually suggested something similar above (on 12/20/15). I think MG needs some sort of power management configuration.
I wish there was a checkbox to search for passive modules only. Similar to the checkbox for including exotic modules, there should be one that says "passive modules only" or something similar. Checking that box would exclude all powered modules.
I think this would be useful because it seems like there's always a time when you need one more thing for your rack, but don't want to rearrange all the power cables or add another bus. I've also heard of people making a small skiff of entirely passive modules so they don't have to worry about a power supply. The feature seems useful to me.
Just an idea... I love the site overall.
Thoughts, opinions? This is my 1st rack and built based on a youtube video I saw. I already have the M32 HP60 Case and TipTop power supply. Would like to build a nice small rack that is as flexible and future proof as possible.
Thx,
orfium.com is advertising heavily. haven't tried it though...
Try Octave.is. Run by Chris Randall of Audio Damage as a Soundcloud alternative for audio professionals. Private sharing is one of its core strengths.
nathanmoody.bandcamp.com
noisejockey.net
tw/sc @noisejockey
awww. thanks for your reply. greatly appreciated. unfortunately this is not what i meant. i would like to have one sharing solution for all of my sounds instead of a number of different accounts cluttered all over the web. i love the idea of free sound and i might contribute to their database in the future but then as a separate entity. for now i feel there is an abundance of sounds everywhere on the net so, there's no need for me to push my stuff as well. i'd prefer an option for private sharing so that i could share more selectively (depending on the quality and intention). maybe i need to phrase this question more simple. what platforms are you and anyone else reading this using for sharing your sounds?
I've not used it, but, how about http://freesound.org/
If your field recordings are for others to use, this might be a good fit.
hi there, this might seem a little off-topic but it spooks my mind for quite some time now. i'm using soundcloud and have a bandcamp account to showcase some of my output. however, i do also use a number of fieldrecordings in my sounds and to share with likeminded people but this is what makes me feel i am hitting the limits. i do not want to have all my raw fieldrecordings clutter my profiles as they are very specific and not really relevant to most people out there. nonetheless i would love to be able to make them available to selected folks for easy streaming and downloading. one option to do this would be sharing private tracks on soundcloud. another using wordpress. i'm not happy with either solution though. soundcloud is far to sequential in the way it lets me display and arrange those files with no options for folders or site sections. whereas wordpress is cumbersome to download and display as well as having the limitations of not letting me make available privately shared folder systems. is there anybody out there who is using alternative platforms to achieve exactly that? or are these just unresolvable pipe dreams?
waiting for panels and final assembly to ship, expecting to have both by next week (7/11)
This mixer looks fantastic. It would be great if you could give a hint as to a release date.
Just wondering if anyone know why there isnt any rating system ? :)
Inspired by Krell patch.
Braids on WTx4.
Polaris on 4 pole phaser.
Disting on 4A (LFO).
Triggerman tempo set to min.
VCA 1-> outboard channel 1
Echophon -> outboard channel 2
Erbeverb -> outboard send/return
Hi guys,
Good traders in the marketplace:
@anal og : https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/44826 Great seller! Good communication and everything as discussed.
@Bobje : https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthesis-technology-e350-morphing-terrarium Good communication and no problem at all with the sale
@lewisinspace : https://www.modulargrid.net/e/rossum-electro-music-morpheus very good communication, easy and fast shipment
@PinPinKula : i do NOT recommend doing business with this user. Very rude and unreliable user. I ordered a micro Ornaments and Crime on 16th of August and today, 21st of October, I still haven't received what i paid for: a micro Ornaments and Crime with black knobs and buttons. On top i had to pay twice the delivery costs (13,5 EUR when it was actually 8 EUR) due to some problems with the delivery (according to DHL the address was wrong). When i finally received the module on 9th of October (!!) to exactly the same address it was sent on the first time it was white buttons and knobs. After contacting him to ask why was that he confirmed to send them and after 12 days i received the following answer from him: "...you might as well go make music then worry about color scheme of your modules, but thats me.. you do what you want.". This user made me regret using Friends & Family when paying through PayPal.
Please check the following discussion of the group "Modular Synthesizer Sales and Trade (Europe)" about him of the 30th of September on Facebook, it seems there is a lot of people unhappy with his way of doing business: https://www.facebook.com/groups/698742386919180/permalink/1917748588351881/?sale_post_id=1917748588351881
Super smooth transaction with user @p_ache. Great seller, fast shipping and good communication!
Let me start by thanking @MarsFace for blazing fast shipping an excellent shaped TipTop Bd808.
-- solitud
Seconded. I have bought three modules without any problem from @MarsFace.
thanks to @nearlyghost for teletype, everything arrived safe and sound, trusted seller
Make noise Rosie for the line output and Send/Return Effect path...
-- psantonimu peaks or ripples or best both by killing the pittsburgh mixer
-- ghee hgt
thanks for the responds guys!
yes i'm thinking about ripple too before. will check about mu peaks one too.
yes feel free to eliminate anything & suggest any substitute of it.
thanks again!
Thanks for the tip - will check out some maths videos. Seems to cover a lot of bases
Mutable Instrument stuff is great, as well as Make Noise stuff. You'll probably hear "get Maths" more than several times, but, get Maths!
mu peaks or ripples or best both by killing the pittsburgh mixer
... and even if you're not looking specifically for a Make Noise system, the manual Tony Rolando just released makes an excellent modular primer... explains basics like the difference between audio and CV voltage, gate triggers & clocks, as well as introducing the modules of the system, which can also be bought "a la carte."
http://www.makenoisemusic.com/content/manuals/sharedsystemmanual_1.10.pdf
NEW EP: https://fastus.bandcamp.com/album/terra-incognito
Latest works: https://soundcloud.com/fastus
Modular studies & sketches: https://soundcloud.com/problivion
Make noise Rosie for the line output and Send/Return Effect path...
Hey, I'm a manufacturer of modules and wondering how to make plugins for TrueGrid? I don't see docs or links source repo anywhere?
-- elmood
Development for TrueGrid is on hold, the project was too ambitious. I am thinking about open source it, but even have to put some effort into that too. Because code is undocumented and a mess, of course ...
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Hey, I'm a manufacturer of modules and wondering how to make plugins for TrueGrid? I don't see docs or links source repo anywhere?
The search feature for modules is amazing but it would be great if we could search with just as detailed criteria for other people's racks. For instance I'd like to search for 84HP set ups.
If you're not already familiar with the Muffwiggler's forum, this noobie thread is an excellent place to start:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44345
NEW EP: https://fastus.bandcamp.com/album/terra-incognito
Latest works: https://soundcloud.com/fastus
Modular studies & sketches: https://soundcloud.com/problivion
I bought a mother-32 some 6 months ago (my first eurorack purchase, was an op-1 wiggler for a few years before) and the bug has kind of bitten me.
I am not putting too much money into this as i can see it quite likely being an long path , so as i love making things have built up lots of mutable modules. now seeing this could be the base of nice little system. I am looking to build up an NV build Klee soon but need to start thinking about adding some basics vcas, env generators.
What is obviously missing? would allow me to start geeing more musical.. I have been happy in drone/ bonkers land to date but want to stop building so much and start experimenting form. That means sequencers and env generators i guess
I find the sequencer on the moog ok and will add a klee NV build soon so just after some initial thoughts really , ideally kits /diy but happy to put money into good modules . Love to know any ones thoughts
Hi everyone,
Finally decided to build my first modular setup!
I've just purchased a moog mother 32, make noise DPO & 208 pittsburgh modular case.
Trying to build some kind musique concrete system but that can still can perform as musically abstract/noise/experimental machine. My budget for now would be only for 6U racks.
I need your thoughts about what I've been doing so far.
Also need any suggestion for something to put on the last 8HP?
Dedicated low pass filter?
LFO?
Many thanks before!
Then you're probably set with an interface, and have room for more FX!
I think I won't need space for an internal sound source.
I mainly thought about a fx processing skiff.
But I thought of MI Elements in the future.
There are many options. Pittsburgh Modular's In/Out would work but I'm assuming you're wanting stereo. Intellijel's Audio Interface II would probably be exactly what you need. You should still have some room for an internal sound source.
Yeah, this whole thing is definitely taking a toll on my bank account! Love the Moog- every time I fire my rig up it's hard to get away from. Hopefully as I get more sophisticated and creative with my patching it will only get better. As far as FX goes, another good thing about the Disting is that there are a couple good delay algorithms that would work in a pinch. It's nice to have them within the system itself but obviously if you're recording into a DAW you won't be lacking FX options.
Thanks a lot. Anything you recommend?
So I would pass on Elements and try to build around Clouds with Peaks and Tides and 2 Shades.
You're welcome! It's probably best not to go directly into Clouds from whatever external audio source you're using, assuming it's line level. Modular level is significantly higher than line level, so you'll need something to boost your signals on the way in and to attenuate them on the way out (though you could output through an external mixer with the gain/level turned down to avoid clipping).
No near plans to do it, there are zillion other bugs to fix before we add another format..
Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net
Thank you for the suggestions etantloh! Clouds has an audio input. That's how I thought doing it. But maybe you're right and I should pass Elements for starting.
Any plans to include Modcan A and same format Cyndustries in the list of formats?
Thanks so much for the reply, etantloh. This is super helpful. I'm definitely going to consider getting both the expert sleepers module and the ModDemix. I really wish that I could do some sort of effects like the erbe-verb! Sadly, I don't think I'll have any space. I think I'll have to shift those duties to the computer for now.
I appreciate the "never enough VCAs" wisdom. That was exactly what I was hoping to get.
I have definitely browsed around Muffwiggler. It seems like a great place but I haven't posted enough replies to start my own thread! I figured I'd try my luck here first, being very impatient. Glad I did.
Congrats on finishing your rig. It looks like a lot of fun. Love the Moog Mother in the setup! I too almost went with that as an entry into the modular world but I thought, hey, why spend a quarter of a month's pay when I can spend a WHOLE month's! Thanks again.
First thought would be how are you getting your audio into the rack? I may be missing something though.. if not maybe pass up Elements and get a good input module first. Then fill out the rest of the hp. I'm not too familiar with Elements so with that in mind maybe less hp for the internal sound source? Go with something like Braids, or Tides with Sheep installed, and a good filter. You already have some good EG but another one (if you didn't go with a 2nd Tides) and a VCA would be nice.. then you would have an internal sound source and additional modulation sources.
I've heard mostly great things about the DPO, as well as the Z2040. I'd consider adding a dedicated AD or ADSR, because Maths does so many other things that you might not want to have it as your only EG. You should consider losing the EON and get the Expert Sleepers Disting MK3 -- it's not much more cost-wise and perfect for a small system because it has so many functions (everything the EON does and much more). You can experiment with it to see what you tend to use most which would help determine future purchases, even if you decide not to keep it. From hanging out over at Muffwiggler, the consensus seems to be that you "can never have enough VCAs"... of course it all depends on what you're trying to do, but adding another 'flavor' of VCA might be advisable. The ModDemix would be a good option, plus it can be used as a mixer within your system, which would be useful. Something like Mutable Instruments' Links might also be useful. Finally, I'd add Clouds (fantastic- I have one), or something like the Echophon or Erbe-Verb since any of those would be valuable to have for what you're trying to do.
Disclaimer: I'm not new to music or electronic music, but am new to modular. Since purchasing my "gateway" to the modular universe (Moog's Mother 32) I've spent nearly 2 months buying, selling, trading (and blowing up my budget, originally 120hp, now 208hp... gaah) and finally think I have a system that should hold up for awhile. It kinda has to since I can't (shouldn't) afford to do anything but sell or trade out at this point. Also, if you've not been over to Muffwiggler, it's highly advisable as it is a treasure trove of information and discussion. AWESOME community. Just for kicks, here's what I ended up with: 
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-- Adminius
Don't hesitate to contact the manufacturers by sending them a PM and tell them they should update the specs or unlock the module.
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