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Sounds promising! How about some piezos on the piano to get some signals besides audio? Like vibrations from the body and stuff like that... maybe an envelope follower...
Piezo is a nice idea! Envelope follower could work, too - I'll check that out. Thanks!
you can buy an audio interface for the iphone or (what i did) solder yourself a "breakout"-cable with a TRRS jack. Guess you can buy such a cable somewhere...
Just found an iPhone compatible audio interface in my closet. This will work I hope... ;-)
I'm extremely happy with buying a PEG from @Kujo. You can't ship a module faster than this man. Highly recommended!
He was also really helpful and empathic after I ran into panic mode when things didn't work as they should have at first (which was simply may fault and a simple power issue in my case). Thanks again, man.
Sounds promising! How about some piezos on the piano to get some signals besides audio? Like vibrations from the body and stuff like that... maybe an envelope follower...
you can buy an audio interface for the iphone or (what i did) solder yourself a "breakout"-cable with a TRRS jack. Guess you can buy such a cable somewhere...
Just ordered the ADDAC301 Floor Control to control some things with my feel while playing the piano with my hands. The other way around might also possible, although I lack a little expression when playing the piano with my feet... :-)
Hi. I see two basic strategies: 1. processing of piano sound, 2. deriving cv from your playing the piano to control modules.
The Clouds sure is a great choice for both. One feature I would definitely want in there is a pitch to voltage converter. Plus more more ways to get cv out your piano. Maybe from the pedal?
Curious what you come up with in the way of processed piano!
I am mainly a pianist with a strong addiction to experimental music.
In my head there is this strange idea of playing a piano concert, where I modulate the original sound of the piano into some electronic devices that will respond and interact with my playing. Further I wanted the option to add some drone sounds or sequenced patterns, and finally some drums, can be triggered with my piano playing or a predefined beats.
So this is the basic setup I almost finished, so I am just a day or so before testing this beast.
The piano sound will go into the Ears and then splitted clean into the mixer and into the Clouds. The Mother will provide the clock for the trigger module that can play the drum sounds, trigger the Peaks or the Clouds. The Mother Sequencer and VCO can provide a basic drone sound or basslines. Or it can be used to control the Clouds.
There are the basic scenarios I tried to cover.
I am open for comments. What can I do better? Am I missing something? Are there options I am currently not thinking about? Is the answer always 42?
Damn. How many SSM2044's do you need? 2? I DO have 1 spare in an SSM2044 DIY board that was sent to me as a gift back in the later 90's. I never HAVE attached it to a panel.
Back in the later 90's I had purchased 25, as I was building modulars for other customers up til '98. I lost a LOT of parts from a former girlfriend who through a lot of my stuff out when we split up in 2006. I DO have the 1 spare though that I could fire off.
But you need 2 don't you?
...my budget is really really bad...i may take the challenge and build my own case...
-- RhamptonStudios
Right you are. With more time on your hands than money you may find this inspiring: cardboard DIY case. That's what I did. I went for 2 rows though. It's way more more durable than you might think. In fact mine doesn't show any wear after 15 months and five times on the road. It's an easy build done in one afternoon and, of course, it doesn't get any cheaper.
Thanks for the response wiggler55550. i can't wait to get into the eurorack world. love the sci-fi sound it can make. Already i have the System 1m & the Make Noise 0-coast. if i can just get that image above i will be greatly happy..what gear are you using btw
you're welcome, but maybe you can actually help me out here. the reason i knew about that dual ssm is that i am up to build the neutron.
i already got the pcb and some of the components but i am having trouble finding the ssm chips from a trustfull source.
i asked doepfer and Dieter answered me, but unfortunately they have to keep their stash for servicing/repairs...
where did you get your chips?
cheers,
robert
Hi
Im fairly new to eurorack. I recently added a mutamix to my A-100 P6 case. it has the old PSU2 in it I believe.
if i crank more than 2 channels up on the mutamix the audio starts to break up, presumably because of a lack of power, yet it seems the modules I have shouldn't go over the max 1200ma output of the case
Braids could be replaced by Peaks, Links, and an A-151. A-151 would help for interesting melodic variation, Links would help tie things together, Peaks is drums or modulation depending on patch/day of the week. That does bring us down to just Akemie's and/or self-oscillating filters as a voice though.
Still worried a tad that there's not enough modulation as is. Or rather, all current modulation is either sequencing or random.
Can always swap out the E350 for Braids if I want an amazing LFO. Think we leave as is for a few weeks.
Basimilus Alter or Drumbrute would be cool but can do sample stuff with ER-301 or add in post on computer.
Euromod is the new project to build an Eurorack Synth to Smartphone Interface.
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The new Eurorack Synth to Smartphone Interface (Euromod) is concepts based in the combination of an Android application over a Motorola Moto Z device with a special Motomods developed by Bluesxp, the Euromod.
The Bluesxp ´s Motomods Euromod sends and receives analog control voltage signals from and to the Eurorack.
Main features:
• Accommodates a Motomods compatible smartphone using magnetic connection to a Eurorack system.
• Can process and store digitally 4 analog signals at 24 bits and 48 KHz resolution.
• Generate 4 CV signals from live performance, stored data and/or external MIDI.
• Interface controls are a combination of touchscreen, five physical level knobs and a multipurpose pushing encoder.
• Mix 4 analog signals and converts external MIDI to CV when smartphone is not connected.
• Four red/green LEDs monitor CV outputs activity.
• Both module firmware and dedicated app seamlessly updatable from cloud.
I don't think there's necessarily anything extraneous here. I still worry about lack of variety, but it's also looking like you're well covered.
Don't forget that the Atlantis actually has two really good VCOs, so you've actually got 5 in the rack, in addition to other sources that can oscillate fast enough to produce sound, though they may not track. I think at least one VCO should be something that you're really excited about, but you could possibly swap one out for something else.
Since you've got the quad VCLFO, I wonder if the other two LFOs could be swapped for something like a Maths.
Maaybe a bit more in the filter department for variety. They are really going to color your sound in enjoyable ways. Are there any others that you're excited about? I added the Wasp for fun, but you can always swap that out for something that you find interesting.
I'm glad to see Peaks in there. The 'menu diving' that it does have can be frustrating sometimes, but it comes with a handsome manual and I use it in pretty much every patch.
Even though you've got the Linix in there, I was thinking that 4 VCAs for audio, and 4 VCAs for your modulation intensity could be good. A number of manufacturers have quad VCAs, like the Doepfer one in the other rack. I'll add the others I've seen.
Some stuff you could swap for:
- Maths or the Make Noise Function, which is like half a Maths minus the mixer. Having voltage control over the rise, fall, and 'both' gives you really interesting modulation options that aren't quite the same as a VCLFO.
Here's another demo from the prototype/breadboard E370. Says designer Paul Schreiber, "the sounds the breadboard can generate is about 10% of what the final one can do".
The Kickstarter campaign will be launched Feb 2017 - more info at www.synthtech.com :
I am quite new to the world of modular madness, but I want to dive in deeply with a project I have in mind for a few months now. I want to do concerts with piano improvisations, playing against or with drones and rhythm patterns from a modular system.
My requirements are:
- not too sophisticated options, because I need to control the drones at the same time as my piano playing
- very good audio quality, for recording along with an acoustic grand piano
- the complete system should fit in a 2x84 case
- no need of an additional laptop
- MIDI clock out for an optional drummer, who needs to get a MIDI click from the system
For example I like the sound of the Erica Fusion series. The video of their Drone Rack is quite cool. Also the new Octasource looks promising, although I think it would not meet my request for an easy to control system.
I have the rack and a Moog Mother 32 as basis. And I am completely about what you modular-pros would recommend.
Hope this is going to be a nice conversation.
This is all of the modules that i can get my hands on and build within my price budget. I dont have the pcbs for some of the modules mostly the stuff on the top left but i thinking about the possibilities. And this is what i have.
More, inexpensive VCAs since you'll potentially have so many voices, you'll want more for controlling intensity of modulation.
Unity mixer for mixing triggers together.
Clock dividers for triggering events at later defined times - may not need these as much with a BeatStep Pro since you can use a channel to essentially program your own.
Envelope follower for taking outside sources and converting their changes in volume/amplitude into a voltage. Plug guitar in, strike a string; the sharp attack and moderate decay can be sent to a filter's cutoff, etc.
More inexpensive noise and sample & hold modules: noise for getting texture as a sound source, but also makes a great textural modulation source. Aging tape, foggy sounds.
Sample & hold uses a clock source and an input to create stepped voltages. It's great for random modulation timed to a rhythm. You could subtly modulate the length of an envelope that's tied to a rhythm sound, providing little fluctuations in how long it rings out.
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