There is pretty much zero channel bleed and you have to have multiple signals turned up all the way befor the way before there is distortion. The distortion is pretty clean sounding and when observed on a scope looks like a straight clip. The 2hp mix also works really well with control voltages and the scaling on the knobs is quite smooth, without any big jumps in volume.
I do understand what pamela does... I just didn't dig deeper into finding out all about it..... I figured you had it or used it since you were suggesting it.
Anyway, BUT, YEAH....... Pamela would be a good choice..... I think I'll have to go out to my local store and play around with some modules....
I also think it's time to build my own stage case......
oh... i thought you were using a metasonix VCF... no idea if it'll emulate the organ, but you'll probably get some funky tones out of your oscillator. you're the first person here i've seen that'd put one of their modules in their rack. i can't abide by the mismatching yellow, so i'd stick to their VCA. i think you'd get more tube sound with a tube filter than oscillator, but then again, you won't get the same "misbehaving sound" as metasonix's S-1000 wretch likes to make some random howls.
-- bubblefunk
Thanks bubblefunk. I'm not that concerned with the look, but more with the sound. If you take a listen to some of the demos like this one the filters in those days were line multiple notch and/or bandpass filters to try and emulate real instruments. After listening to some demos I don't know that a the Metasonix tube filter would achieve these tones. I am thinking a formant filter or ADDAC 601 might be better although I don't need all of the VC features of the 601 and at a higher cost.
How about a stereo output? I know it's not as exciting as other modules, but having a massive stereo image can be heavenly, especially with your new Morphagene! (I got one and it is amazing)
-- Thoevans
And here is the stereo output module Rosie :)
19 hp to fill before case upgrade ! Any suggestions ?
I have bought a module (Anti Patroon) from Error Instruments a year ago. About six months ago, I had a breakdown of the module. I wrote a mail to Error Instruments to ask how I could fix. The answer was to send it back in order to get it repaired by them and then returned back to me. So I sent it back. The result is that I never got back my module after something like a dozen mails to figure out what was happening with it.
Since then, no answer, no module back. I never thought this could happen in the modular community.
This is a shrunk down version for being the mad scientist I am. Enough to sample and re-engineer from the inside out. I feel like I am missing a key component or two.
Any feedback would be super awesome.
Kindly yours,
Ponmon
Beginning my new eurorack. I am an experimentalist by nature, and I work with other hardware outside including (casio xw-pd1, korg volca series, electric guitar, and a few misc pieces).
I want to be able to truly plug and play then mutate, breed and release the full nature of the harmonic amalgams.
This is an incomplete idea and any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Can you mute individual channels some how, like the Tempi does?
i honestly don't know, but maybe you can at the preset level. i'm a noob to modular, so my understanding of clocks & dividers sucks, but the impression i got reading pam's description was that it can do everything a batumi AND quad clock can & more with its shuffle feature and presets, though maybe batumi & quad clock work better live where you can tweak their sliders.
i'd actually expect you to understand pamela better than me. i just wanted to give you a heads up on it as a powerful clocking possibility that won't hog rack space. try contacting the manufacturer. they'll have a much better answer to your question.
well... not just that, it'd give you more octaves, and be a heck of a lot easier to play, BUT it's your rack and you know what works for you best. at the very least, i'd think you'd have to lay the rack on its back to handle the keys better, or do a bottom row kick-out. i look at that keyboard, and only one thing comes to mind...
carpo-tunnel syndrome
OK... 2 things...
a lot of missed notes... in part because of carpo-tunnel syndrome. LOL
Hi,
My name is Arynot, I'm new on this forum, just want to say Hi!
Have a nice day.
Thanks.
This little module just arrived and before installing it I noticed a USB port on the back. I guess Im a NOOB because I have no idea what its for, and cant find anything in the documentation I downloaded. Anyone know what its for other than the Arduino board?
This is a session I did after the most recent re-org
Thanks for the input Bubblefunk. I'm trying to keep everything self contained and not go to an outside the rack source. I liked the idea of having a small controller and sequencer. I do have a small USB keyboard. I guess I could get a USB/MIDI/CV module and use that. I suppose that would free up some rich space for other things.
Bought an MI Clouds off @Euxine, all went well. Recommended seller.
Hey, bubblefunk! I've seen you around these parts
The tube mixer is a dream. I love it. Very glad to have it. And the Erica Synths Monster case (6U) is great. I am replacing my Elite Modular portable cases. I have two in great condition. While the ES Monster case isn't really portable. It is nice to have the extra width. The depth is nice, too. I didn't think I would like a tall case but I do.
The Control Forge is another matter. I haven't had time to delve into it much. I've done basic stuff. And I read most of the manual(!). It's a complicated piece of equipment and it is going to take a while to wrap my brain around it. I find I have to sit with a module for a while so my brain can ponder it. The more complicated the module, the longer the pondering. But I'm excited to get playing with it. I watched a lot of videos on YT of people using it as a sequencer. While it can be used as such it seems a waste to me. It's so much more than that.
I see in one of your cases the MI Rings. What do you think of it? Have any tips for me? I've played around with mine, but I haven't dug very deep with it yet. I found a guy on YT called genshi. He has some inspiring songs he's put together featuring Rings. I've learned a few ideas to try from listening to him.
Hmmmm....
Pamela huh?...... I like how it has eight outputs...... Lots of extra things besides triggers to use too....
Can you mute individual channels some how, like the Tempi does?
Obviously I can't stop after I fill the missing 10 HP. Building a case and/ or buying one will take a while..
So, to fill out the last 10 hp......... With what I have already......... maybe a quantizer and a VCO?
i like the control forge & tube
if you select your handle in the upper right hand corner of the screen & bring your racks list up, you can go back & change the name of the rack to 2.0, or whatever other name you want using edit instead of (copy)(copy)
i'm sure it is, but i'd wonder why you'd want to waste so much of your rack space on a limited keyboard controller instead of using an external. 1/5 of a rack for a 1 octave keyboard doesn't make sense to me, but then again. neither does maths. it's easier for me to wrap my head around control forge (it's complicated, true, but at least you can SEE what it's doing) and smaller single function modules.
well coming from a "tone first" perspective, the three "essential" modules i'd go for would be an intellijel cylonix shapeshifter & rossum's morpheus z-plane filter & control forge "wavetable LFO/sequencer/modulator". you could make a lot of noise with just those, but my play rack is almost the exact opposite of yours... it'd have 19 filters, half a dozen or so oscillators, and very little by way of modulation besides a pamela's new workout, a couple of triatts, a control forge, some expanders & midi with no maths or rampage EVER lol. i'd also throw a metasonix tube VCA in to warm the wavetables up a bit too. your mids sound a little thin & spitty, unless that's the "acid" kind of sound you're after.
it's interesting actually HEARING someone's rack in action.
oh... i thought you were using a metasonix VCF... no idea if it'll emulate the organ, but you'll probably get some funky tones out of your oscillator. you're the first person here i've seen that'd put one of their modules in their rack. i can't abide by the mismatching yellow, so i'd stick to their VCA. i think you'd get more tube sound with a tube filter than oscillator, but then again, you won't get the same "misbehaving sound" as metasonix's S-1000 wretch likes to make some random howls.
pamela's new workout?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alm-busy-circuits-pamela-s-new-workout
it's hard for me to answer. my priority is "as many tones as possible", so i'd be inclined to say wavetable oscillator, which is anti-moog, or maybe an intellijel polaris multimode filter.
cool. thanks for the info.
as to "radical patching", IF i had a modular, most of my patching would just be swapping oscillators & filters in "standard synths" with "power patches" being based on intellijel's cylonix shapeshifter & rossum's morpheus (the absolute sickest filter IMO) & control forge, so using filters as oscillators wouldn't be an issue for me, and you'd NEVER see a maths or rampage in my rack.
BTW, i forgot the doepfer 106-1. i read about it, but when i looked it up here, a different 106 filter clone, must be their code for filter, showed up, so i didn't include it.
as to punk rock, i think that would be the arp odyssey, but nowadays, NOTHING's as punk as the all tube metasonix S-1000 wretch machine.
I have some outboard rackmount effects on my 12 channel mixer rack. It's a heavy unit and I don't want to move it around for live performance......It's funny because I haven't felt the need to use effects yet. I will someday, however I don't think I'll take my mixer rack to a live show. Maybe I'll run it all though my Korg KP3....that is probably what I'll do.
Maybe I'll have to buy a small four channel mixer for a live setup.....Just so I can get the levels right with the KP3 inputs.
My mind is still pushing me toward a clock divider......
Thanks for the input......I did forget about effects.....
I'm still not sure why I want a clock divider...... I guess I have mylarmelodies to thank for that!
Some effects maybe? ... Reverbs/Delay ? ... Those Pico from Erica are pretty cool. or RT-60 from Qu-Bit.
Hey Everyone!
So, I have 10 hp left in my current system........ What am I missing?
At first I was thinking about a Make noise Tempi..... Then I got the Performance buffered mults from Malekko....I really like being able to switch mults with the button on the fly.....
Then I was thinking about a 4ms rotating clock divider and some more mults or a malekko performance unity mixer...
Maybe it's time for a Disting? However, a Disting would give me too many ways to go....
Kind of want to keep it simple-ish..... The Tempi would be a complex module to sort out but I like how it has states to save and recall......
What would you add in 10 HP?
FYI, I do have a make noise 0-coast, Korg SQ-1, Moog Werkstatt, and an Arturia Keystep.
Thanks,
Grey
I have the older Korgasmatron, that is a great filter, very gritty but also very versatile because it tracks 1 V/octave and can be used as dual sine oscillator.
I had the dual Borg, which also sounds nice, but I did not like, that you always had to put in a cable if you wanted to use just one of the filters.
I did not use the Befaco filter, but I have several other modules from Befaco and they all have the punkrock approach, so I guess that Sallen-key filter will be cool too.
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Befaco midithing is a good choice
the forum's search engine doesn't do the best job of searching for filters by clone type, but using this modular grid & this article about filter clones, i came up with these 5 possible clones, not counting the studio electronics MS-20 boomstar which sounded really interesting and very different from their yamaha CS-80 which got me into it's sort of "nintendo/atari" sound
Intellijel - Korgasmatron II - seems to be the most popular as far as i can tell
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-korgasmatron-ii
Befaco - Sallen Key Filter BF-22 - according to an online blurb i read, it is a "true clone", down to cloned ICs and can be used as a direct replacement
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/befaco-sallen-key-filter-bf-22
Analogue Solutions - SY02
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/analogue-solutions-sy02
Manhattan Analog - MA35 VCF/A - is actually an MS-10 clone... what's the difference between an MS-10 & MS-20?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/manhattan-analog-ma35-vcf-a
Malekko Heavy Industry - Dual Borg - is technically supposed to be a bucchla clone, but is also compared to the MS-20
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/malekko-heavy-industry-dual-borg
anyone have any experience with any of these compared to any of the others? considering that at least as far as filter clones go, doepfer isn't the best choice (specifically their SEM clone), i'd expect there to be some sound quality differences between each brand, and something else i read implied that the MS-20 can do some huge bass sounds too which would be nice as i'm just not a fan of moog sound, but if 2 filters more or less sound the same, the one that offers extra tones, like a sweet overdrive, or multi-modes would be preferable. until hearing the MS-20 boomstar, i'd dismissed the synth as irrelevant.
I bought an ornament & crime module from Virgil (who also built it). Overall a very nice and easygoing person. The build quality was terrific as well. Highly recommended!
A easy to use and overall good converter is the Pittsburgh Modular MIDI 2. You can get it for almost nothing from 2. hand now.
Is everything here compatible? I don't want to go big, I just want to try to emulate a Clavioline which was a monophonic tube organ from the 60's. http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/story-clavioline I want to play it from a midi keyboard.
drop #8, pamela's new workout, and put rossum's AWESOME control forge at #3!!! THAT is how you control voltages as far as i'm concerned! it destroys LFOs, ADSRs, & rigid pattern based sequencers and more as far as i'm concerned. WOW! when not keyboard tracking, i would use a control forge AND expanders for sound design or making complex multi-tone dubstep wobbles.
unlike maths & rampage, which i'm simply not able to wrap my head around, short of breaking their functions down into individual modules, many of which i'd never even use, i watch this video, and i can imagine all kinds of tonal mayhem & sloppy timed funk sequences. i don't mind complexity when it's on the surface where you can see it
OMG! i just learned about the SICKEST CV modulator ever, because it works almost exactly the same way it would if i designed it, and i imagined a module very much like it, only it wasn't step based, though, when you can alter the timing of every step, it's the next best thing to hand drawing, my module would be used to modulate notes, so you can play your "boings, wobbles & scratches" and my modulator would add a second layer for amplitude modulation for extra complex sounds, but i guess if you synced a couple expanders, you could modulate a VCA & a VCF, all with entirely different envelopes than pitch, besides patching your CVs to "whatever it is you modular heads do" said he with an accusatory tone. LOL
anyways, check control forge out. it's only 100 times cooler than maths or rampage and at least 10x cooler than pamela's workout (as far as i understand it anyways)
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/rossum-electro-music-control-forge
i just learned about control forge and REALLY dig it! it's my kind of "screw the perfect timing LFO & ADSR straightjacket & let me bend tones with CURVES & wobbles" module! it's VERY MUCH like the dream module i talked about in another thread except you can't use it to track a keyboard so you can play your "boings, whoops, & scratches", and it doesn't have a second envelope generating VCA so you can add even more complexity to a sound's amplitude over time, but i'm guessing you could do THAT with an expander module and the VCA of your choice tracking a voltage envelope.
i would trade 100 (too many unmarked functions in one box to be able to understand it) maths or rampages for 1 "let me draw my own modulations & sequence them, thank you" control forge. it's such an OBVIOUS concept! use digital's ability to make complex modulations analogue can't match, the same way wavetables run circles around "boring old sines, sawtooths, & squares"
i'm so impressed with the sound design possibilities of control forge, i yanked rossum's morpheus out of my imaginary "tone bender" rack, replaced it with an intellijel cv/logic/switcher mixer and created an entire "awesome rossum" rack
THAT's how you make analogue do dubstep wobbles! i would take complex pitch bends over "gag me with a spoon i'm soooooo sick of 303 filter sweeps" ANY DAY, but, sigh, i guess you can do those TOO with a control forge, not that i can figure out why anyone would want to. LOL
anyways, here's what it does... YOU decide how cool or not it would be making YOUR kinds of sounds
i can tell you this, if i made a demo for the module, i'd R2D2 the eff out of it, do some bass wobble, scratch over it... and go boing boing boing and figure out how to make it talk. yeah! so far, the ONLY synthesis i've ever done was playing with a softsynth i was able to use without a VST host that i had to manually trigger, one note at a time, making sound design a slow process, but over the course of two grueling days, slowly learning the basics using BASIC ADSRs, i was able to make it say "YO!" & "WOW!" with sawtooths or square waves... control forge can do that soooo much better, i'm sure, especially when you add a vocal sounding filter. granular steps? crossfade steps? WOBBLE steps?! WOW! i never imagined THOSE!
it would be about the ONLY sequencer i'd ever put in a rack too because you can REALLY slop up the timing with it instead of having to fit everything in those perfectly timed, soulless, perfectly quantized steps that make me despise most techno. when you can slide timing around, you can make beats that have some hop & skip to them. that's another reason i really relate to this module. it lets ME take control of timing and lag to a high hat or rush a kick riff 'till the cows come home. i couldn't do that, even with 256ppqn on my alesis HR16 because of that EVIL click track that made everything i played sound like kraftwerk. i hated being confined to patterns so much, i eventually wanted to smash my drum machine with a sledge hammer, and only got funky with it 4 tracking on a cassette... try editing that!
golly i wish i had a modular now! they're STARTING to get more interesting than sampling to me between this, wavetable & FM oscillators, & z-plane filters that go where analogue can't
I wonder why so many people have been putting their SMRF (ahahah) on the market :S
I don't own one but it seems lots of fun!
-- Tazio
i originally put one in my imaginary system. it's an interesting effect, but really one dimensional. it really only makes one kind of "ringing tone" compared to the SICK cylonix shapeshifter wavetable voice by intellijel or rossum's equally sick morpheus z-plane filter which can do a lot more, tonally, than SMR as far as filters go.
sure... "toy xylophone" is an interesting sound, but would you want to use it on EVERY SONG? LOL
rossum just blew my mind again, inventing ALMOST the same exact module i would, then adding a bunch of stuff i would have never thought of. the biggest differences are that i'd add pitch tracking to it so you could play notes with "tone envelopes" and that it's have a second layer where you could draw amplitude envelopes, which, maybe you can, as i understand it, with an expander module and modulating a VCA to act as an envelope generator.
regardless... check this awesome rack hog out!
control forge
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/rossum-electro-music-control-forge
i yanked morpheus out of my tone bender 4x104 play rack, replaced it with an intellijel mixer, and created an entire "awesome rossum" 1x104 rack out of control forge, 4 expanders, morpheus and their evolution filter because the kind of modulations you can do with control forge are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than lame LFOs & ADSRs! you can even sequence & trigger with it. there might be a learning curve with it, but i think i'd use it a lot creating bass wobbles,
scratches" & boings etc. i honestly don't know what took someone so long to let digital do what it does best... "complex modulations" like wavetables & apply it do control voltages.
your mileage may vary, but i'd trade 100 maths & rampages for one control forge.. i mean, it even lets you draw CURVES... how cool is that?! but "granular, crossfade & wobble" steps? WOW!!! seriously cool sound design potential there. THAT's how you make sounds skip & bounce, even if you can only do it one sound at a time, BUT i bet using the quantize feature, you can transpose a "sequence" (note, for me) up or down and trigger it from an expander. i'm seriously jazzed about control forge
Could swap Quadra with:
Would miss things like Batumi, Chance, Basimilus, Belgrad, Granular/Sampling modules
But this is incredibly focused, versatile, dense. If only I could buy an Isms case + Spring tank.
I've just bought a CV.OCD box from tindie.... https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi-to-cv-box/
Could be just what you are looking for. And 0hp!!!!
Hello friends..
i'm starting to build my modular, it's a very deep world and i love it!
At the moment i have two elektron octatrack.. i think i can use they to sequence my modular synth for first weeks before upgrade to a modular sequencer..
Can someone recommend me a good quality midi to cv converter module?
if is possible dual channel operation.. 2 cv and 2 gate outs will be perfect
i'm scared about lag, bad pitch tracking..
Thanks a lot
Hello~ Can I ask you some questions about the Lora module of SX1278? ( the datasheet of SX1278 is given below: http://www.kynix.com/uploadfiles/pdf65976/SX1278IMLTRT.pdf )
I don’t know why the Lora module always failed to send. This is my sending function:
[code]uint8_t SpiInOut( uint8_t outData )
{
uint8_t lmGET_data;
HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive(&hspi1, &outData, &lmGET_data, 1, SPI_TIMEOUT);
return lmGET_data;
} [/code]
However, the DIO0 here cannot be set ! ! ! Please give me some feasible advice! Thanks a lot! ! !
[code]case RFLR_STATE_TX_RUNNING:
if( DIO0 == 1 ) // TxDone
{
// Clear Irq
SX1276Write( REG_LR_IRQFLAGS, RFLR_IRQFLAGS_TXDONE );
RFLRState = RFLR_STATE_TX_DONE;
}[/code]
I wonder why so many people have been putting their SMRF (ahahah) on the market :S
I don't own one but it seems lots of fun!
-- TazioThere is now a software version available for 1/5 th of the price at softube.com
-- gbraakman
All things being equal, there is a software version of everything, everywhere. That is not the point, if we wanted to be software jockey's, we would not be here. If you want to play with software, download Audulus -- it does everything and everything well.
Regardless, I had one for a brief period and it's a neat module. However I like Verbos stuff and have a BARK filter which does more or less the same thing, minus the internal features of the SMR. The reason I sold mine was because I found it to be a bit cumbersome to work with. I personally am not a huge fan of 4ms, which is not to say that they don't make great stuff, just not my type of stuff.
I wonder why so many people have been putting their SMRF (ahahah) on the market :S
I don't own one but it seems lots of fun!
-- Tazio
There is now a software version available for 1/5 th of the price at softube.com
Hi,
Could you please advice sellers to name the location a little more detailed. Maybe in the default classified description text as a default header (like condition and shipping).
good idea, I have added that.
Also:
The good traders thread is well intended but do you really expect people to go thru all the posts to find the one guy?
You can search the thread, search input field top right.
If you are serious about that, you need a feedback form on each member profile and a way to determine if a member is a allowed to review the other. Maybe if you add a field for buyers name when the seller clicks the "sold" button?
-- lpzw_modules
I know it's not very good like it is and needs improvment. The rating can not be only done by the seller, it has to work in both directions. Maybe something like a friend system where you can see if a guy is connected to others? I know some people have a strong dislike for everything facebookish so it has to be thought out well ;)
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hi bubblefunk, thanks again for taking the time to reply even when you had to do it three times.
i have already used this technique for polyphony with my moog minitaur. it ended up sounding really well, so it will not be a problem to do it again. the whole thing was about trying to fit all that stuff that i'm looking for into a 6u 104 hp, so i guess i'll have to dig some more and that's also why i was interested in modules that could do different functions even if they are pretty complicated. i see how convenient can be to have the ability to send audio and voltage from the daw, so i guess i'm also going for an expert sleepers module. i have been happily making music for years on the box and wouldn't mind doing it so, but i was looking to expand and have a box full of knobs seeking a different experience. thanks for pointing out the envelope follower, i'm also definitely looking more into those.
i just started to use the api hear on modular grid to start arranging some modules, let's see how it comes out (i'm not sure if i'll be able to mix the black panels also hahaha)
have a great weekend
