We know.
-- Zacksname
shoutout "zach", btw. lol.
-- singular_sound
Are you going to get a Bitbox?
We know.
-- Zacksname
shoutout "zach", btw. lol.
-- singular_sound
Are you going to get a Bitbox?
Weird, you have been leaving forever for close to three days now
-- Fruarsei have a lot of free time. :|
-- singular_sound
We know.
Not that I can comment on everything but spotted your 'No Effects', I keep a 2HP Verb in my percussion case for Hats & Claps I find it just finished off the sound nicely when you need it and it obviously only takes up 2hp.
-- wishbonebrewery
There's an Intellijel 1U effects unit in there.
It kind of just seems like you wanted only compliments and no criticism, which was not going to happen because people were under the impression you were going to buy this stuff, and if people's differing opinons could dissuade you this easily, your concept may not have been as sturdy as you thought. If you get advice you don't need, just ignore it. You don't have to argue against their vision. It doesn't cancel yours out somehow.
If you look back at your old posts, you can see pretty easily where it derailed. You can actually go to your profile and look back at all of them.
I'm pretty impressed that this somehow got worse while I was asleep.
I am no more certain of what your goal is here than I was a year ago, but I am more suspicious than ever that something more than trolling is going on. Probably nothing of importance, really, but that just makes it even more confusing.
I would have, if i was ready to start planning a case, but it is a detail that i was confused about, that you missed an opportunity to help clarify for me, that if there was an on site bot that I could dialogue with, that i asked for help putting things together, could have just resolved this in the natural flow of things. I came on here as a noob wanting to bounce around ideas about design concepts and was treated with hostility. AI would have had emotional sensitivity training. What the eff makes you still think that there is zero chance I will ever become a modular performer @zacksname , its just disrespect.
(I did google it. Google actually did give me the right answer as the first result, which i wasnt expecting, because tbh i barely trust Google anymore, but, Fair Point. Etcetera.)
-- singular_sound
You 100% brought the hostility to the situation. Multiple people gave you considered advice on your designs and you just got more and more resentful of the fact they told you things you didn't want to hear.
It's just, wouldnt it be nice if The Admins could train a chatbot on that data, and i could get an answer without having to bother the forum?
-- singular_sound
Google it.
Did you look up different cases over the past year you've been working on this? I seem to recall you constantly making 100hp racks, so I figured you planned to make the case yourself. I think it's more fair to say you didn't look this up or ask than it is to say you were confused about it.
Can you show me where I said you didn't belong here? I get the feeling that "basically literally" is doing a lot of work to qualify your statement.
A wavefolder? Definitely a big part of the Buchla sound, and it'll be perfect for those 258t sine waves. Intellijel make a pretty fun one, the Bifold, but there are multiple options.
A 296-style resonant filter bank/EQ? That's a pretty classic west coast design. The Buchla one may not fit, but the Serge or Erica Synths ones will. ADDAC also makes a triple bandpass filter like the one Buchla makes for their 4U systems, which might be a more useful version of the concept for you.
Some of the recent module concepts from Tiptop like the programmable pulser or the frequency shifter might be fun here.
What's wrong with a power module? They posted a small case with a uZeus because that's one of the easiest ways to put together a small case.
What kind of "little misunderstandings" do you think AI could improve?
i will most likely never pick up any eurorack modules.
-- singular_sound
Shocking.
I thought you wanted people to engage with you. I'm the only one still willing to do so, and I've been as reasonable as anyone could be about all this. If you don't want to talk to me, that's fine, but if you don't like what I've said then there might not be a point for you in coming here to engage, especially if you continue to be combative about any advice that conflicts with your idealized version of modular synths.
If you are careful and follow advice from those with experience, you should be able to get a good modular system for less than $36,000.
I think if you apply the same attitude you applied to yoyos here and get engaged with the actual materials, you will do better.
If you had said somewhere in your early 20s, I would be more optimistic about you outgrowing this disposition and learning to be more patient when taking on a new hobby.
i think people just need this site to provide them a gentle reminder about how to think about using this very site. etcetera.
-- singular_sound
I definitely agree that there are people who need (at the very least) a gentle reminder about how to approach using this site.
You might need to read some books/posts, watch some tutorials, and also get more familiar with the materials themselves. This will help you understand the onboarding process better, and if you don't find this resource at the end of your research, then you'll have everything you need to create it. For now, I'm not sure you'd know which of these resources are the right one even if you found it, because you haven't done the thing for which you're trying to create and evaluate learning tools. Having a plan and overall goal is good, but you still have to start at the beginning and go through it all step by step.
have you read zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance @Dub007 ? that is the book i was trying to reference. if you have not, you might not grok what i have in mind, etc. ...
peace ✌️
-- singular_sound
You mean a piece of pop philosophy from an author who themselves claimed the book was not really an accurate take on either "zen" or "motorcycles", the two things it was ostensibly about? I'm not even inherently against such a project for music gear and modular synths in particular, but who would such a resource be for? Why would it be Modulargrid that provides it?
zacksname, i have just one thing to say:
https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/taking-criticism/
-- singular_sound
I get the feeling you will have more than this to say.
If you want to flex your creativity, play some music. If you need help with something, ask. If you just want to chat, maybe see if there are any Discords you can join or go on Modwiggler. In my experience, conversation here seems to be limited to people posting music or asking specific questions. If you already have "very specific taste", you might not need to share your ideas before you start working on them anyway. Frankly, your behavior here is pretty alienating and will not turn this place into a great place to make friends. Being a good listener and taking the feedback you asked for well even if it doesn't necessarily fit your goals will work much better.
And we don't want to limit our responses to just the ones you want.
I feel like I get the general direction of your satire, but without identifying a real issue and purpose it just lacks a certain bite and effectiveness.
I think making contributions based on your experience with a studio that isn't going to exist is probably limiting your ability to get engagement with people on a website about things that (mostly) do exist or will in the future.
If you have too much time on an Android phone and want to learn modular synthesis, you should try a free app called Hexen. That way you can actually build patches and work on ideas.
I will give you credit: I enjoyed the fact that this is your rack where the joke was about having too much random modulation and too many utilities, yet it still has too many voices. I actually laughed out loud a little. I think that officially makes me a nerd.
Your link is weird, but I assume you mean the "(Current)" one.
An LFO module of some kind (Ochd, Batumi, or whatever seems fun to you)? Maybe even a spring reverb for that classic Easel sound. It's hard to go wrong here. Maybe even a filter if you want to expand your palette beyond traditional Buchla sounds while keeping things fairly simple and focused.
I would rank my suggestions here in the order they appear in terms of relevance/usefulness.
I suggest keeping the ring modulator, too. They sound great with the 258t sine waves and it can also act as a bipolar VCA.
Are you still having AI help out with these?
I think we are both having trouble wrapping our heads around an instrument that doesn't exist yet. It's hard to get a sense of something's "flow" before it starts flowing. The best partner for brainstorming is the modules themselves. Especially when you have a very specific idea of what you want that no one seems to understand. You might just need to start.
What do you mean by "generate a kit from pure menus"?
Let me know if there are any questions. I probably wouldn't keep them in this arrangement, though. These are just the module ideas. Only you will know when you have synergy with your modular system, and you won't really know until you're playing it.
This is my general suggestion. A few tweaks here and there, plus some utilities, and the overall concept works fine. Some of the really big modules are questionable, but I also have really big modules and love them, so I won't bother questioning it. If you have any questions, I can answer them, but I do think every module type included here is necessary to make this work as you intend.
Also, I made it 104hp. 104hp is easy to get. 100hp is not easy to get. You'll pretty much have to make it yourself. Why torture yourself to have less space?
edit: The thumbnail doesn't seem to want to work properly. Just click on it and the rack should appear normally.
You have been given an insane amount of startup advice for Eurorack over the time you have been posting on this site. You should definitely go back and read what was said by multiple people then, because that was the information about how to get started in modular that you are claiming does not exist.
Of the stuff you mentioned, the Neo-Trinity seems like the best call.
An Ochd would probably make this work better, too. Another solid option would be attenuverters.
I can't say the Pizza is good for this rack, but I do love it and its different firmwares.
The filter suggestion is (for me, at least) not so much about a filtering effect added to the final product as it is about articulating the sound of an oscillator by sending it through a closed voltage-controlled filter and then opening it using a envelope that you've triggered. It's the same subtractive synthesis thing that drives more basic synthesizers, but I think even in this noisier, seemingly more unrestrained setup it will allow you to get lots of tonal and rhythmic variety out of your setup.
You'll also be able to do this with one of your VCAs, and exploring an envelope/function generator will probably do you more good first, but a good filter just gives it extra shape and character. Not only will be a great source of sounds (especially if it self-oscillates), but it will improve your experience with the Doepfer A-110 or whatever other sound source you decide on.
So...you want to add another sound source to this?
I also tend to make a lot of noisy distorted stuff that isn't necessarily traditional synth sounds, but you need some articulation and modulation in here. A quality filter (100 Grit and Angle Grinder would both work for what you want while still doing filtering, and based on what you have so far they are good picks, but there are others) and an envelope/function generator (the more the merrier – a Mutable Peaks clone might be good for function vs space, but just look around and see what looks good) would go a long way towards making this much more versatile.
That Mazzatron module doesn't need any power and you won't need to play around with it much when it is set up. I can't help but think your best bet is to not rack it, but just kinda have it out on its own so it doesn't get pulled on due to being in a fixed position. You can always cover the sides with something if you're worried about that.
Since you have ths FX Aid, you may also like Happy Nerding's 3xMIA and 3xVCA. If a matrix mixer (which is actually a great tool in Eurorack because you can use it to mix, route, and reroute CV for lots of detailed transitions) is too big to fit in, this may also give you some good modulation mixing/changing options. For the 3xVCA, one thing I like other than the attenuator for the input CV is the switches you can use to send the output of a channel to the next channel, allowing you to easily multiply or mix signals together at the literal flick of a switch. Simple utilities, but super playable and really useful.
Generally, I would agree with the person above on a Keystep or Beatstep Pro for doing 2-3 voices plus drums/event triggering/etc.
If you like the Ground Control, it does have the advantage of being a standalone unit with its own power supply amd case, as well as the power supply for at least a single rack of modules for if you get another case (up to 1A of +12 and 700 mA of -12, though you'd want to avoid going over about 70-80% of that to avoid harm from voltage spikes or modules that need more power to load up and start) and take it out to be racked. It is very expensive, so definitely look around to see what else is out there and if it is worth it. There are also more elaborate programming-based options like the Hermod (the original is very cheap used nowadays) and the Hermod+, or my beloved Nerdseq, but you're not quite there yet based on what you have here.