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Wow outstanding! On par with Colin Benders and approaching Richard Devine territory. I hope to have a large massive setup like yours one day and to master it.

Hi Quantum_Eraser,

Wo-hooo-hooo-wooow! This is yet another very enjoyable and beautiful piece of music! I didn't mind I had to wait a while before you came up with this next track, it was definitely worthwhile waiting for it :-)

Remark for film producers: For God's sake forget about those established sound track artists, give Quantum_Eraser a decent contract for your next movie!

Very well done, very enjoyable, bowing here with respect! Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks Garfield,

That sound around 3:00 was the Noise Engineering Cursus Iteritas! Wackiest module ever next to Kermit as it can be acid bass to clarinet to bell like flute tones. Not as well known but it is a cool wave shaper complex oscillator module. Most folks go with Loquelic Iteritas but this is the milder version. I'd love to add a Manis Iteritas.

Hi Mowse,

Lovely jam that is! You have to provide me the telephone number of your boss, I have to talk to him (or her) and explain that you practically don't need to work any more (but of course still get paid), so you can focus more on music, we need you here :-D

Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Nice skill, Garfield,

I am not quite that handy in building cables. Anyways, using A4 with modular is way easier than Octatrack as you just need to configure the CV A-D settings on the CV menu from A4 and off you go. Octatrack is more of a pain as need MIDI to CV like cv.ocd and do lots of tweaking. I love using drums with A4/OT since I don't need to spend 10-20k on a large modular bass/drum setup.

Still, I like the experimental percussion modules like WMD Fracture/Chimera and Intellijel Plonk and will add those as well as Hexinverter Mutant Machine in the future to complement my Noise Engineering BIA module. Drums are just way too much fun and along with bass the heart of all dance and electronic music.

Hi Sacguy71,

Yes lovely the Octatrack together with your modular, looks good :-) Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Ha, ha, what kind of sound was that around 3:00? Sounded quite funny and good!

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

I made myself a few of those 6.35 mm to 3.5 mm patch cables, cheaper ;-) Today I finally had time to play with my A4 again but it was so long ago that I had to get used to it again first. So another time I need to look into combining it with my modular system.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Yup the Arp 2600 and Korg MS20 are staples in synth history.

And why the hell Instruō?! :D

More like six, actually...

A big part of the problem is that it's not branded, so these wind up in the "Other/Unknown" column...and when that happens, users tend to avoid checking for duplicates because "Other/Unknown" is simply HUGE. However, a couple of things do help here...one is the "duplicate alert" that pops up when creating a listing, and which users posting modules need to pay attention to so that this sort of thing can be avoided. The other thing is that posters need to use that word search function in the module searches. It works...otherwise I wouldn't have known about the other three dupes here.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 21:43

You should probably worry more about whether this build is playable first. Technically, there's NO VCAs in here (save for the Optomix's gates, which are only sort of that, and which WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY on CV or mod signals). And all of those 2hp modules jammed together aren't going to be fun to work with. Very serious "Sexy Module Syndrome" at play in here. Worry about the power loading LATER; there's far more problems with the whole thing in general!

Exciting @mowse, looking forward to hearing more.

Pinnacles has been a fav of mine for a long time @farkas but I only realized Froese was in Tangerine Dream when @lugia posted those vids of them awhile back. Definitely good stuff, I'll check out Eno and Cluster too.

Thank you very much!

Thats a lovely piece :)

Finally made a new Track Today :-)

As always I tend to completely loose myself into this lush Soundscapes and when
I record I completely forget time. But I kept it under 10 Minutes :-)

And As always. Use Headphones and dive in...

When I just let play the Morphagene along with the Nebulae it sounded nice. But
the I decided to put the Morphagene into the Panharmonium, let all the 32 Oscillators do
their work and oh boy.....what a wall of Sound the Panharmonium pours on you when
added the ZDS Reverb. At around 3:50 the Panharmonium starts it's Madness.

Patch Notes:
NebulaeV2 is running a pitched and slowed down Loop. This goes into QPAS (Bandpass) and into the Desmodus Versio. Morphagene is running a portion of the same Loop in different Pitch. This loop goes into the Panharmonium processed by ZDSP Reverb. Ochd is doing some Modulation on the QPAS.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 16:06

Love it.

Work has kept me from diving deep into DFAM and Subharmonicon. A cold, damp weekend was just what I needed for some playtime. Tons of modulation to QPAS while Subharmonicon drones a 4-step sequence. A fun and uncomplicated patch to explore.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 14:56

Thank you, both. Next week, I move stereo EQ and compression into the rack so that it will be faster and easier to maintain sound separation and dynamics. Really looking forward to that.

Why was this submitted? Three versions of this already exist on MG.

Le power supply n'est pas suffisant. Ici c'est jusqu'à 1.5A et je pense qu'il vaut mieux un PS plus puissant

Hi everybody,

Xaoc and Frap Tools are very beautiful.
I like Addac and Cwejman design.
Very sober and fonctional.
I like Blue Lantern too, even if they are sometime messy ;)
Rossum, Tesseract and Joranalogue to end the list.

Take care friends

Cheers

The Eno and Cluster collaborations are pretty cool too. I love all of that kind of stuff.
My dad was a Tangerine Dream fan when I was growing up, so I've always appreciated Phaedra, Rubycon, Stratosfear, and the Sorcerer soundtrack. I recently got hip to Edgar Froese's "Stuntman" solo album. Can't believe I had never heard it before. Love it.

Had more fun experimenting with octatrack and modular today.

The Elektrons pair nicely with modular stuff!

Thanks Garfield,

Yeah Kermit is great. So far cv.ocd is good and easy to use for managing eurorack from midi controllers like Octatrack. I want to try it out soon with Ableton Push controller and see how well it works on that area.

Thanks Garfield,

Cool deal- did not know you have an Elektron Analog 4! Great synthesizer and love the CV control options for modular. I do wish that it had 12 CV outputs versus 4 but still decent as you can layer 4 additional tracks for drums/bass to a small modular setup. I think having Octatrack + A4 and modular is great combo. You do need 1/4 inch to eurorack cables and Elektron sells nice ones for this task.

Thanks Garfield,

Yeah getting sorted on using the Elektron Octatrack to play with modular gear is fun. Love using the samples and drum loops from Octatrack with modular for complete set. As for the Doepfer, it is useful for recording direct via USB to DAW like Ableton so not completely useless but not as immediate as the cv.ocd module.

I gotta check Cluster out more too @Lugia, I actually had a live set very enthusiastically compared to them way back in like 2008 (edited to add, it was a good set, but not that good lol) when I was making weird micro noise drone pop in max/msp (the more things change, etc, etc...) but I never took the time and now I feel bad about it lol. It's looking like it's gonna be a krautrock week...

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 03:11

Hah? No Cluster? "Zuckerzeit" rocks my shiznit 299%!!!! And it was very much part of the proto-techno intake by the Belleville Three...tracks such as "Caramel", "Heisse Lippen" and "Rotor" are very much part of techno's DNA!

I've always thought that every home should have an ARP 2600, frankly...standard gear, like a fridge, stove, toilet, etc. Thankfully, SOMEONE agreed with that who doesn't work for Korg! But yeah, 2600s make for magnificent "system cores", aside of the fact that they may well be the best thought-out teaching synth in history, PERIOD.

I need to listen to Tangerine Dream more @GarfieldModular, I was more a Neu! and Faust and Harmonia guy, but as always lots to explore in the world of great music. Anyway, I'm glad you liked the track, I worked on it a bit more tonight and think I have an even better version brewing. If it comes together I'll post it here again.

As always, thanks for listening!

First off, be VERY careful about your current loading if you intend to only use one uZeus. This size of build can easily get into the zone where a single supply like that can be very inadequate, and it might've made more sense to calculate the build first, THEN settle on power options based on your needed current load. At least with uZeuses, it's not quite so disastrous to add a second one, although it burns 4 hp that could've been saved for functionality.

And about 2 and 3 hp (and really jammed 4 hp) modules...they're great for things you don't have to/need to tweak a lot. But if you're talking about things such as VCFs, VCOs, etc etc, these can be a huge PITA unless you've got fingers like chopsticks. And another point to consider: they cost more, even if the price seems to be comparable with other, larger modules. The reason for this is because, if you calculate the hp vs cost on them, you get some alarming numbers. For example, the 2hp MMF: this goes for $119. Now, this might seem like a bargain. Compared to something like Doepfer's A-121-2 at $160, this would be a good inference...but it's wrong, because you're not taking into account the cost to fill spaces.

Huh? OK...take the cost of your cab + the power hardware, then divide that by the number of hp in the cab. That result is the cost per hp of your cab. The closer you can aim your build's module costs to that will mean you're coming in at a more economical result. Now, let's do the same for both of those filters...

2 hp MMF = approx $60/hp
Doepfer A-121-2 = $20

So, this adds up. Eventually, it makes the difference between the same cab coming in at $5k versus $15k or something equally hideous. Slim modules make for good slot-fillers, to be sure...but I wouldn't build a system (or a subsystem either) solely with them, despite what Erica did in that respect.

Anyway, couple of other things: you can lose the buffered mult, for starters, unless you feel a need to try and cram four or more VCOs into that cab. And even then, I'd still question the need for it if you're using VCOs that have good input buffering. Small builds like this probably shouldn't be taking up function space with mults...use the inline variety or stackcables instead.

Second, when using the bigger modules, there's something of an INVERSE to that cost-per-hp thing. Take the Erica Black VCA you've got...it's $185. That means 1 VCA = $185 there, and that VCA has two CV ins, variable curving, and the rest is the usual stuff. Now, an Intellijel Quad VCA costs $189, is 2 hp bigger, and you lose the 2nd CV but gain a boost function for low-level signals AND a breakable mixing function, but everything else is pretty much what you'd expect in a VCA. But THESE VCAs only cost $47.25 each! And you get a 4-in MIXER to boot! Soooooooooo...

OK, yes, "why do they make modules like that Erica VCA, then?". Simple...some people DO have the space for 1:1 function:module situations, or there are users trying to make specific bespoke builds for a certain purpose. But in a small general purpose build, there should be NO reasons for using modules of this sort. Unless a module has a VERY SPECIFIC FUNCTION, it's definitely NOT a good idea to put 1:1 modules into a small build. If anything, you need to increase the functional density per module, NOT reduce them! Besides, using 1:1 for VCAs is a great way to paint yourself into a corner with a paucity of those essential modules.

...and speaking of essential modules...utilities. I don't see any. I don't even see any in that pile of 2hp modules. No attenuverters, no secondary mixers, no clock modifiers save for one lone Boolean 2 hp, no, no, no. Sure, they're not snazzy...but just try and program a modular synth WITHOUT them! If you haven't ripped all your hair out over the span of an hour or so out of sheer frustration, consider yourself lucky!

I really, really, REALLY hope you didn't get this cab already. This process doesn't appear to be anywhere close to where I'd suggest that someone jump on to hardware and $$$. Some of the danger shows in that last paragraph...

"...I really like what I've seen in videos on YouTube..."

YouTube is a mixed bag. There ARE a few creators who do a good job at demonstrating SINGLE MODULE FUNCTIONS (which are the demos you SHOULD be watching!!!), and then there seems to be a raftload of people who manage to look good on camera while holding up a Eurorack module like any other typical prop in their set-piece studios. Avoid those latter videos; invariably, they do things in their vids which look AWWSUM...but which wind up showing you absolutely ZERO about module function, interconnection with other modules, etc. If you click on a "module demo" and see a huuuuuuuuge cab bristling with patchcords with the module in question semi-buried in amongst that...AVOID. Like the plague, in fact! Instead, you want the VERY BORING module reviews where there's NOT a maze of wires, NOT a patch where you can't clearly hear the module at work, etc. They might be dull as dishwater, but you'll wind up knowing how that module can work for you if its explained effectively. But by following the really glitzy advice source, you risk running headlong into the unwanted "Sexy Module Syndrome" zone, where you've built up a kewl-lookin' box of lights and knobs and wires and etc etc...that can't make a sound that's any better than an Arturia Microbrute, but which costs MANY times more!

Hi Lugia,

That's fantastic news that it's compatible with our Eurorack stuff. Can't wait till next year when it becomes available, love to test it and somehow I have the feeling that I might straight away buy it, let's see! :-)

Kind regards, Garfield.

And fifth. I think a lot of the problems with this feature are coming from the gradual diversification away from mainstream browsers due to security concerns. For example, my local cannabis dispensary has an online menu and ordering-in-advance system, which they REALLY want us to use during the Covid fiasco in the USA. However, my browser choices on my studio machines is Firefox...and their menu system really detests Firefox, necessitating what has to be about the only use of Microsoft Edge in here on them. Standardization to HTML5 is one thing...but on the client end, there's still piles of drawbacks.

Hi Mowse,

Nice music, yet again :-) First Troux catapulted me already in space and now with your track I got somewhere further hyper-spaced, no idea where I am but with your music, I actually don't care where I am, it's enjoyable, relaxing, the weekend will pass by satisfying this way!

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks for pointing out on this one. It looks great and sounds good! We only have to wait till end of March next year... Long wait but it looks like it's worth it :-)

Oh yes... and it has lots of patch points, so that's fantastic, do you know if they are Eurorack compatible?
-- GarfieldModular

Yeah...I'd definitely say that waiting a few months until DEFINITE availability beats the living crap out of waiting until hell freezes over for something that's one step removed from vaporware. Price considerations aside, this might be one of the few times that Uli's actually done the RIGHT thing.

As for the patchpoints, you betcha! I've crosspatched my 2600 to my Digisound 80 more times than I can count. It was the ARP 2600 that gave us the initial standardizations for analog synth interconnection, in fact...we still use their 1V/8va scaling and positive-going gate/triggers to this day. More than likely, when (and NOT "if") I get one (or two?) of these in hand, it'll wind up right back in the same position my old Rev.2 found itself in lots of the time.

Hi Steve,

Great stuff, I love the track. Ha, ha, and I like Farkas' reference to Tangerine Dream, it indeed sounds quite a bit here and there if Tangerine Dream was busy :-)

This track is very enjoyable! Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Great video and glad to see you are using those Richter modules again, nice ones! In my previous comment I asked you for feedback on the cv.ocd but looks (or it hears) like that works pretty good :-)

He, he, the poor Doepfer - A-190-4 is now sitting/hanging jobless in your rack ;-)

Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Ah yes, the Kermit, great module :-) I like you are playing with the A4 too, nice!

And let us know how your experience is with the cv.ocd, quite curious.

Thanks a lot and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Great jam and thanks a lot for the hint, I got an A4 as well but I keep "forgetting it" to combine it with my modular setup, great idea, I just need to get the time for doing it. So your video makes me appetite for the idea :-)

Thank you for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi The-Erc,

My favourite brands of modules to look at:

ACL (all of them but especially the Sinfonion)
IO Instruments

and not too bad either:
Doepfer
Make Noise

Does Behringer - Model D counts? ;-)

Actually... at the end... just a rack with a bunch of modular stuff in it to look at keeps me happy (no matter which brand)!

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Lugia,

Thanks for pointing out on this one. It looks great and sounds good! We only have to wait till end of March next year... Long wait but it looks like it's worth it :-)

Oh yes... and it has lots of patch points, so that's fantastic, do you know if they are Eurorack compatible?

Thank you and kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Forgot about the patch points.

EDITED Oct 25th 2020, 00:30

Excellent work @mowse, great layering and everything feels really dynamic and fantastic to the ear. Especially loving the Terry Riley vibes. Looking forward to more!

This is the size of my case and power supply. Right now, that's all I've got but you need those first. Now that I have them, I'm trying to think about the types of modules I might need to make generative and ambient stuff like I do in VCV. The type of music I make is at modularzen.com to get an idea of what I'm looking to augment. On the bottom are modules I want with more than 90% certainty. Pam's is a definite, so is Blob. The Arbhar is so unique that I'd love to add what it offers to my music and unless I find a really good argument for a different module that does similar things, I'll add it eventually. Same thing with Maths except I plan to get it as my first module since just having it will allow me to interface with my computer and do fun and creative things. The Disting is another one that's so versatile that I'll get it early to get the most out of what limited gear I'll have.

The top row contains modules that have functions I know I need but are not necessarily the modules I'll use. Those are the ones that I'm really flexible about. All the 2hp modules are there because it's the smallest footprint/function I can find for use here. The 4ms modules are there since I really like what I've seen in videos on YouTube that featured them. However, they are in the nice to have category for now. Same goes for TipTop, Erica, and Pico modules.

EDITED Oct 24th 2020, 23:54

Fourth

Yep, the VCFS is pretty rad, I'm still yes and no on the VCF303 (the rhythm part) but I need to save some room on envelopes in this rack so it's doing the job for now. I kinda felt the Krautrock vibes here too, I think I'm gonna give this sound a couple more gos, even aside from this track, definitely some potential there...

Thanks for listening as always!

Sounds great, and that filter is killer. It's almost got a Tangerine Acid Dream vibe at that tempo. Very cool take on the acid sound.

But if you want modules-as-art, I'd have to give the nod to Folktek.
-- Lugia

Ooh nice! I didn't know about Folktek! The panels are amazing, and the modules are interesting too.

Thirded.