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I read somewhere that the wave folder behaves differently (it doesn't cut out the audio completely, when fully CCW), on the newer model, or something like that. Anyone care to clarify this?

Yeah! Nice.

Hi Sacguy71,

Glad to hear you got now some decent space for your studio gear :-) Studio without gun shots sounds good to me! ;-)

Can't wait for your videos made in your new studio! Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Mog00,

Wow, interesting FM Madness track! The way you combine the rhythm with the melody attracts directly my attention, nicely done!

Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Mowse,

A lovely daydreaming track :-) Some interesting sounds to discover here!

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi ModLifeCrises,

Wow, what a sound you got there! Weird and beautiful at the same time, well done! :-)

Thank you very much for this demo and kind regards, Garfield.

looks nice,this could be cool for modular live

Hello,

Anyone using a korg sq64 with cv/gate?
I am noticing a strange noise on the line when i plug the pitch/gate.

The noise disappears if i enter the control mode on the sq64.

If any of you is using that sequencer i would like to know if you are having the same issue (or potentially know why this is happening)
Thanks in advance,
Ciao
Matteo

Ok, it's working now. After playing a bit with the manual trigger. Weird.

Thanks a lot for your help
Regards

one thing i need to mention is my first goal with my eurorack is i want to make Dark Ambient

this is my rack,dont have all modules yet

EDITED Mar 14th 2021, 18:34

To add a bit of info,

Looks like the cv into the vco works fine as i can hear the different notes if i play the scale on the keyboard.

Looks like the issue is with the gate not triggering not opening the VCA.

I am starting to think the 540 is somehow broken.
Any idea on out to debug further?

Thanks,
Regards
Matteo

Hello Lugia,

Thanks for the help.

Unfortunatly, still not luck.

The only sound i can still hear is the oscillator when i turn up the vca initial level.
If the initial vca level is turned off (or turned up until i can hear the oscillator) i can't get any sounds of it it via external sources.

Is there something broken?

Any ideas?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Regards
Matteo

Hello ModLifeCrisis,

Thank you very much for the interesting demo. Gives me a good appetite for the Morphagene (again) :-)

Kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

Hello to you too :). Thanks. I love the Morphagene. It always surprises me. Some days I can't get anything from it. Other days I switch it on, wiggle a bit and 'hey presto!' find something I really like. I think it's got built-in random... :)

Farkas awesome rack.and thank you for suggestions for interactive controller modules in my thread.

i am thinking about selling my mantis case,as i just got a bigger case
-- Broken-Form

Thanks @Broken-Form. I've had some fun making generative patches, but the interactive method is so much more attractive to me. Let us know which control modules you add to your rack. What kind of case did you decide to upgrade to?

-- farkas

i will,got alot of modules to check,i upgraded to acustom 13U travel case

The Mystic Circuits Ana should do the job, but I want to see if I can solve it with my existing modules. I think what I can do is use Maths subtraction, and then invert negative results. So:
CV1 = 2V, CV2= 1V, Subtraction = 1V
CV1 = 3V, CV2 = 5V, Subtraction = -2V, invert that to get my 2V

FYI, I want to use this with a Theremin. I don't play well enough to play in tune with it but I do not want to just quantize the output either, may as well play keyboard then. So the idea is split the CV out, quantize 1 side of the split and compare that to the unquantized signal. The difference is then used to drive something else. Could be a modulation depth of sorts: hit exactly the right CV on the Theremin, you get the 'pure' note/tone. The more you drift away from the correct pitch the greater the voltage difference, the greater the modulation depth. Until you are far enough away from the quantized pitch to hit another note and then the unquantized voltage is compared to that again.
This will lead to some odd results as most scales will not have equidistant 'gaps' in CVs but the effect could be nice. And hide that I cannot play Theremin to save my life.

I'm a bit surprised this 'get the difference' function is not more common, I think you can use it for various interesting purposes.

Hi Joystick. Even with the new version, you are missing a considerable amount of functions to make this an enjoyable instrument. You don't seem to have a mixer or VCAs included in the new rack... Those are going to be pretty important. Part of the joy of techno is adding and removing pieces, fading sounds in and out. How will you do that in this rack?
If you really want to include all of these large modules, you are going to need to add a third row. You could probably fit a good techno starter rack in 2x84hp, but not with the modules you have chosen. Don't get me wrong, these are all cool, but you need some extra pieces.
You would be wise to listen to Lugia's concerns here. I think you would be frustrated instantly with this configuration.
Have fun and good luck!

Edit* Oops... My mistake, I overlooked the Joranalogue VCA thing.

EDITED Mar 14th 2021, 14:02

hi lugia thanks for reply...but i dont know why it was an old version of my sketch...here is the new...

noise eng basimilus, folktek matter2, akemis taiko, intellijel bifold, desmodus versio, joranalog morph 4
pam workout, addac 404, mimetic, zadar, wmd quad att,soma lyra fx, joranalog filter 8

and yeah eventually i wiill grow but just want to start somewere with kind of a mix of every function needed

Because my attention was brought to this post: a reminder that there are far better forums to discuss economic systems and their sexual preferences than MG.

Farkas awesome rack.and thank you for suggestions for interactive controller modules in my thread.

i am thinking about selling my mantis case,as i just got a bigger case
-- Broken-Form

Thanks @Broken-Form. I've had some fun making generative patches, but the interactive method is so much more attractive to me. Let us know which control modules you add to your rack. What kind of case did you decide to upgrade to?

Just picked up a Peak and Humble Audio Quad Operator and had some FM fun

The main FM voice is using the Peak. The second FM voice is the quad operator, Belgrad, Fx Aid, Bat Verb, Mimetic,Ochd, 3x Mia,

Pyramid running clock, and sequencing perc on the Blackbox.

BIA kick

Tracked into Tascam Model 24,
Studio one EQ, Final Mix

Good stuff and I need to keep an eye on those mixing desks that Lugia talked about. Not sure where to locate one here in northern California. I did get some new JBL 5 inch monitors with stands and they sound amazing for a low cost affordable studio speaker. Also have two new desks to assemble for my home studio. At least new house has lots of space for studio gear and no more gun shots or homeless all over the bloody place! Whew such a relief. At least I can record pure modular now. I do need to get some acoustic treatment egg crate stuff to put on the walls to keep the massive echo effect from ruin my video recordings. Maybe setup my camera instead of iphone as well.

Watching my old Yellow Labrador Retriever nap in the sun. She sleeps most of the time now, dreaming constantly.

Main voices are two Moog Mother 32's, Plaits, and Telharmonic. Reverb and delay by Desmodus Versio and Mimeophon.

Hey, thanks. I actually have a hard time working with Odessa. It's not necessarily a complex oscillator that I understand very well. The HEL expander has made it a bit more accessible, I think.

Dammit...this is making me want to add that "Maths skiff" to the sandbox...pair of Maths + a MISO to feed ALL of the patchables here.

You are looking for an analog logic module! Mystic circuits Ana is my top recommendation.

-- Miszczyk

Save that that's not exactly a "logic" module...it has some very useful functions, however, including multiplication of CV levels. But "logic" for the most part refers to the actual Boolean gates themselves, while this is more akin to an adder/4-quadrant multiplier/discriminator. Definitely does more than the SumDif, but the question then becomes whether or not the OP can fit that into their build by freeing up 4 hp somewhere.

Maybe MG needs another category for "CV Arithmetics"...? It's not exactly "modulation", because these recalculate the CV level instead of imposing a modulation curve on them. And it's not "logic" since there's no status-dependent digital on/off states. Nor is this a "comparator" as such...hm...

Nightmare, actually. This will be VERY difficult to properly control without the right utility modules. And not in the "you just have to get used to it"-difficult way, but more like "I think I'm going to kick this across the studio"-difficult.

For one thing, while it's obvious that the intent here is to create a bass + drum setup, there's problems emerging almost immediately. Take the mixer, for example...it's stereo, sure, but where are the pans? I'm betting you don't want the sounds panned hard-left and hard-right, but that's exactly what's going to happen here. There's also lots of sound sources + the Magneto that can make use of modulation sources...and no modulation sources save for a pair of two-stage EGs.

Then there's the matter of the case itself. Do you REALLY want to cram things into a 2 x 84 hp cab? If you can go larger, I'd strongly suggest doing so. But for the modules, the opposite applies; you need LESS big panels here, as they're crowding out things that should be there.

And then, VCAs...sure, it's a drum-type thing and it would SEEM like VCAs won't be needed...but guess again! You need VCAs for at least your modulation section, so that you have amplitude control over modulation signals. These allow you to get more animation for your sound sources, and having VCAs in your modulation paths lets you go from a tiny wobble to wild swings whenever you wish.

I'd suggest stopping going further with this for now. Instead, get a copy of VCV Rack and get accustomed to why certain modules are essential to ANY build, such as VCAs, attenuverters, submixers, etc etc etc. Also, prowl through other builds on MG that are created by experienced modular users and see how they approach the same technical issues that're present here. Nobody but NObody gets a first build on MG right...but then, this isn't a video game, and no one should EVER "speed-run" building something on this order of complexity. Take the time to study how/why these things work, get some more fluency with what you'd use for that, THEN re-approach this. I guarantee that, if you take the time, the results WILL bear this out.

The Roland 100M dual VCA works a bit like the ARP 2600 VCA: you have to raise the initial level slightly before it'll be reactive with the EG's output. But keep in mind that once you've got that slight "open-up" set, you'll need to really "thump" it with the EG's output into one of the VCA slider inputs. Also, try switching between LIN and EXP to see if things improve; linear response is what you'd normally use for CV and modulation signals, and the exponential response is tailored for audio use.

Went nuts on this...

I opted to go ahead and "complete" this. So the cab's now full in this version, and there's been some sizable changes...notably in appearance, because where I could substitute smaller clones for the fullsized Mutable modules, I did. In a build this small, it's essential to shrink things down as best as possible while maintaining functionality AND ergonomics.

Top row: Konstant Labs PWRchekr (for keeping tabs on your DC rail performance), Erica Quant (primarily) for the Plaits clones, then those Plaits clones themselves (I doubled the Plaits complement). After that is another internally-quantized dual VCO from Klavis; technically, this is now a TWO-voice system with dual VCOs per voice. The Veils clone handles summing with CV control over mix levels, and this can either be split with the Plaits clones on two of its VCAs, and the Klavis Dual Waves on the other two. This then feeds the two sides of a Malekko Dual Borg (a clone of the original Wiard version) VCF/gate. After that is a stereo mixer for situations where you'd want all of the VCOs as a single "voice" with stereo panning. However, this is something of an option; you could just as easily use the mixer at some other point in the "voicing" row. After this, you then have two stereo effects modules: Happy Nerding's FX Aid XL, then the Beads. But at the end is a final bit of fun, where you've got a dual-input stereo mixer...allowing you to parallel-patch the FX Aid and Beads if you want, putting one unit on "voice 1" and the other on "voice 2".

Bottom row: MIDI Interface, Pam's, then a mk4 Disting because the Disting EX has some depth issues with some cases. The Pachinko is a Marbles clone, then there's the Stages after this. Past that, I totally redid the modulation section. This now starts with a Tides clone (instead of the Ochd, since you get more timescale flexibility + CV with the Tides even though it's only a dual LFO) followed by a 1/2 Veils clone to give the modulation section a pair of VCAs. The MISO after that allows you to take signals from the Tides clone or the Quadrax (or BOTH!) and warp the hell out of them, deriving even more possible modulation signals. And lastly, the Quadrax + the Qx, which allows the Quadrax to do some extremely complicated modulation behavior.

Now you've got something way more potent. By "scrunching" things with the clone modules, I was able to up the module count and the system capabilities without arriving at something that would be a pain to use ergonomically. Mind you, NOBODY gets a first build right, and even this has some areas where things could be improved further; going with a larger case might be one idea there, which would allow you to implement even more improvements. Just 20 more hp per row is a HUGE step forward from a 2 x 84 hp setup without increasing cab costs (in fact, something like a Mantis would be cheaper than many other powered 2 x 84s).

Farkas awesome rack.and thank you for suggestions for interactive controller modules in my thread.

i am thinking about selling my mantis case,as i just got a bigger case

You are looking for an analog logic module! Mystic circuits Ana is my top recommendation.

Thanks for the input. I don't think it can be done with Maths, it does addition and subtraction but not the difference.
That Shakmat SumDif seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. I will take a look at adders too.

Thx again :-)

Thanks for sharing! I love to see people making the most of modular. I’m inspired to try some new ideas now.
-- farkas

Hey there. You're welcome. Thanks for taking the time to watch it! V. glad you feel inspired.

Fantastic, I enjoy these videos very much. But it also makes me want to get a Maths, over and over again 😬 I also dig the tune, not to shabby for only three modules (and sq1) used!
-- zuggamasta

Maths is super cool. It's a bit big, especially for my tiny rack, but I can't imagine trying to make a patch without it. I suppose other modules do similar things but I always seem to find a use for it. Glad you liked the tune, it was an odd little ditty. I still don't really know where the cuckoo came from... :)

For goodness sake, can we uk based buyers please have the ability to only receive notifications about items for sale from within the uk? I don’t need 10 emails a day about EU listings, especially when the sellers aren’t willing to post there because they’re completely ignorant about the new customs terms.
FYI - anything marked as a gift under £39 is NOT subject to ANY customs fees WHATSOEVER 🤦🏼‍♂️

EDITED Jul 11th 2021, 14:17

awesome guys,got alot of modules to study

On the eloquencer, if you activate a tie on a step, gate will remain open until next (non tied) gate. You should test this with chain patterns.

-- defragmenteur

I've got the chain patterns down, are you saying it's possible to have longer gates recorded as ties? That would be very cool, maybe if that's not possible at the moment it could be implemented as a software update? I'll ask Winter Modular about this, they have great support and I'd love to do everything from within the Eloquencer without having to add another module for this purpose!

doesn't disting have a cv recorder in it these days
-- JimHowell1970

What are your thoughts on FH-2 by Expert sleepers for this purpose?

From the top of my head, I would say the squid salmpler can do this. Maybe you should take a look at that thing. Or the Quad CV Recorder from Flame. Both aren't sequencers though.
-- MillionJT

I'll check these out, thank you!

It can sound great as a voice too! Here's a demo

One thing I'd suggest about the 2 hp gap in the bottom (sequencing) cab: drop in one of 2hp's Logic modules. This way, you can use TWO Pam's outs that "conflict" with each other in how they're programmed to create even more complex and elaborate clock behavior.
-- Lugia

That’s an awesome idea! Thanks, Lugia.

Fantastic, I enjoy these videos very much. But it also makes me want to get a Maths, over and over again 😬 I also dig the tune, not to shabby for only three modules (and sq1) used!

Thanks farkas. Apologies. My previous post was inaccurare. This is indeed what i am doing. Gate from sequencer/keyboad into the 540 ext. (Top left corner).
I am really wondering why it's not woking.

Hi Matteo. You should be using the gate from your sequencer/keyboard to trigger an envelope on the 540. That envelope should open the VCA based upon its settings. Try that out.

Thanks for sharing! I love to see people making the most of modular. I’m inspired to try some new ideas now.

Hello,
This is my very first post, thanks everyone in advance.
I recently bought a basic system 500 setup, it's comprised by 512, 521, 530, 540 and 572.
I am encourring two issues which i hope someone could give his/her advice one.

1. I can't get any sound out of it if the VCA Initial knob is not turned on. If i increse the initial level, everthing is fine but i can't get any sound from external source if the initial parameter is set to zero. I've tried with an arturia keystep and a korg sq64. The connection i use are:
   Arturia/Korg Pitch into the 512 VCO Key
   Arturia/Korg Gate into the 530 Ext
   If i increse the initial VCA level and play on the arturia, i can hear the different notes but if i put the initial VCA to 0, no sounds come out. Any ideas? Looks like the gate does not work.

2. I noticed that the sound the two Oscillator (512) is not the same. If i use the same parameter on the first section and second section, the sound i can hear is very different, with the second part being much more calm and lower then the frist. I am wondering if this is by design and hence exepceted or if the module is somehow broken.

Thanks in advance for the help,
Regards,
Matteo

I've been having fun this week listening to a monthly podcast I've discovered called Source of Uncertainty, which is all about Buchla synthesisers. It led me to rearrange my rack slightly to fall in line with a Buchla paradigm. I then created a patch that sort of uses the Maths as a sequencer...

In episode 5 of the podcast, they discuss two modules, the 281 Quad Function Generator and the 292 Quad Dynamic Manager. According to the podcasters, these two modules are a cornerstone of the Buchla synthesiser designs. What I was really surprised about was how much they have in common with the Make Noise Maths and Optomix Eurorack modules. This is probably not news to most modular enthusiasts, but it was news to me. And it got me thinking... I've got a Maths and an LxD (a half-sized Optomix) so I've basically got half a Buchla already! Not...

I've had a bit of an issue with my Cre8 Audio Nifty Case, and had to take all my modules out. I took the opportunity to place my Maths and LxD next to each other, just as the Buchla 281 and 292 modules are often placed together. I then came up with a weird little patch that, in my head at least, is sort of using the Maths as a sequencer and I liked it enough to record a short performance.

Thanks @wishbonebrewery!

LOL

I picked up two of these from Amazon, though I'm sure you could find something similar elsewhere. I use one to hang all of my cables from the edge of my table-style desk and the other to hang headphones. They rotate so you can tuck them under the desk when not in use. Also, I've been using fairly inexpensive Excel Valley patch cables. I color code them by length so I know quickly what to reach for.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BVK2FQW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hi guys,
I am starting to build my first modular setup. I have got a case (Arturia Rackbrute 6U), sketched a couple of ideas for my first modules and ordered MI Rings as my first module :) One thing that worries me a lot is cables, and I need your advice on that.
What patch cables are good ones? (I ordered a couple of stackable ones by TipTip audio and a couple of regular ones by Doepfer to test)
What is the number of cables that is optimal for an average bedroom modular setup?
Are there any good ways to organize cable storage on the desktop so that the cables are easily accessible and there is no cable salad on the table? I did not find any suitable solution. The modular-specific Youtube bloggers usually keep their cables behind the camera so I have no idea how to place an optimal number of cables in a small bedroom space. For now, I am thinking of using IKEA SAMLA storage box.
Do you have any good suggestions?

Cheers,
Pavel