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do you need vcas? probably, definitely if you want to form 'notes' instead of just drones - they are also useful for modulation - modulate your modulation!

do you need effects? not necessarily... but, most people find that at least one filter per voice is a really good idea... & if you don't have effects (at least delay & reverb) somewhere else (DAW, pedals) then you'll probably want some in the rack - they are useful in the rack as you can use them in other places in the chain than just end of chain processing... if you have pedals or line level effects then you probably want some sort of send/return (with level adjustment) to get them to work properly

do you need a mixer? again not necessarily - they are incredibly useful though - & you probably want multiple types - sub-mixers, matrix mixers (are always useful) and an end of chain mixer if you aren't going into an external audio interface or mixer - although you may want one even if you are - nb some vcas are also mixers - buy one of these (a dc-coupled quad cascading vca)
as a sub-mixer at the very least

what would I do? add utility modules... mixers, vcas, logic, sequential switches etc etc

see my signature for some handy hints on how to get the most versatility in your modular for the least cash!!!

hope this helps... & feel free to ask more questions!

EDITED Apr 16th 2023, 14:08

Hello guys and gals,
I’m a bit stuck. Do I really need VCAs?
Do I need effects?
Do I need a mixer?
What would you do to finish off this rack?
Help would be very, very helpful.
Thanks.

Hi

I've got 24HP left in a particular rack and I want to add some drums. As a drummer myself I'm going to be very focused on something that I can tune and tweak and that will sequence easily through Pam. I'd also like it to be simple for performances i.e able to drop out kick / snare / hats etc on the fly

I don't mind single modules or a complete unit but I can't go above 24hp

Any suggestions?

Frequency Central's take on Electric Druid’s wavetable oscillator.
Nice sounds. And it includes an LFO, some good portamento, good CV controls, and more.
Straightforward build, nothing unusual about the build. Lots of parts, but not hard.

Build

Or at least the cropping tool? (sounds less harsh than the trashcan!)
-- Moogul
Not for photography! As for music - it's built up of several components, so you could reuse that drum line for something else later. Btw, for my EP I published last week, I also had several ideas that I started on and dropped. Put differently than the trash can metaphor, selection is part of the creative process. Firmly off-topic by now ;-)

Or at least the cropping tool? (sounds less harsh than the trashcan!)

Anyone is noticing strange behavior when accessing his/her racks from Android phone. Lots of times when you try to move a module the whole rack is moved as if you have switched on the Rack Lock switch.
-- norde

Yes, totally unusable for me on Android at the moment. Maybe 80-90% of the time the rack pans instead of the module moving. It seems to have something to do with the zoom level - moving modules is more reliable when you're zoomed in, but you have to be zoomed in so far that it effectively makes the site unusable.

EDITED Apr 14th 2023, 07:51

This build includes the complete Behringer system 55 with the following extra modules:

1 Behringer 960 Sequencer
1 Behringer 962 Sequential Switch
1 Behringer 904a Voltage Controlled Low Pass Filter
1 Behringer 992 Control Voltages
1 Behringer 1630 Bode Frequency Shifter
1 Behringer CP3A-M Mixer
1 Doepfer A170 V Dual Slew Limiter
1 Doepfer A156v Dual Quantizer
1 AMS Sample and Hold

This is rearranged and designed to fit in the dual Eurorack Go cases in which the existing System 55 is shipped.

Squad goals.

EDITED Apr 14th 2023, 02:42

Nice work there :)

Thanks Arrandan, for listening and commenting. I did have a few doubts about the percussion, but by that point I had spent quite a lot of time setting up the drum modules and trigger sequencing, so didn't want to waste that effort!
-- Moogul

Hi Moogal! Never, ever let effort come between you and a better result. There is a saying in photography that the most important instrument of a good photographer is the trashcan. It should be similar for a musician ;-) Just a general remark, not specifically targeted at your piece here!

Merci !! J'adore ce module. Je viens juste de faire un cover de The Normal - Warm Leatherette avec les paroles !

Thanks!! I love this module. I just have posted a cover of The Normal - Warm Leatherette. With the lyrics.

EDITED Apr 19th 2023, 05:29

Thanks Arrandan, for listening and commenting. I did have a few doubts about the percussion, but by that point I had spent quite a lot of time setting up the drum modules and trigger sequencing, so didn't want to waste that effort! (one of the ways in which modular systems can override musical taste!!). Good luck with the O_C - and do check out the EX some time!

Check out https://www.modulargrid.net/e/vult-freak

EDITED Apr 13th 2023, 11:14

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/shakmat-modular-dual-dagger

Hello all,
I am looking to add a stereo filter in my setup, but I'm a bit low on -12v power so my options are kind of limited.
I was looking at the Doepfer A-121s and while it sounds amazing, its -12v draw is too much for my system. So is MI Blades for example...
The only one that kind of fits is the Moon Phase by Patching Panda. Are there any other alternatives you may have in mind?
My power supply gives me 500ma -12v and with the Moon Phase my draw will be 450.

TLDR: I'm looking for a stereo multimode filter, about 60ma -12v and around 300 euros.

Thanks for any input.

EDITED Apr 13th 2023, 09:54

New video online. This jam is based on a melodic progression I composed on the Mother-32. I added a randomly created bass like melody by Plaits, clocked by Marbles. I used Delays and reverb in my DAW and on the FXaid and played on Hypha by Native Instruments on my midi keyboard. Please enjoy!

is it the same jerk who was harassing folks under various user names like NextG?

That sounds pretty good! And the demo track is very cool: somewhere between Daho and Kraftwerk... Nostalgia.
8 voice polyphonic, multiengine, sample playback, FXs... Impressive.

Ça sonne plutôt bien! Et le morceau de démo est très cool : quelque part entre Daho et Kraftwerk... Nostalgie.
8 voix polyphoniques, multi-moteurs, lecteur d'échantillons, FXs... Impressionnant.

I agree, with a large modular synth that has 6 racks, having the ability to edit multiple racks more easily in 1 screen would be cool.
I currently use 1 gigantic rack, but it's becoming difficult to see power usage. It would also be nice to see & edit individual racks at times, and the whole big rack (6 together) at other times.

Thank you! I'll study this later for sure

Make Noise Pressure Points as an 16 step Sequenzer:

Clock to clock input of brains,
3 rows of pressure points (or four with a tiptop banana from one row of your choice which will be repeated of course) in the 151 switch's inputs and the first step (most left white output not the gold) of pressure points trigger output to the trigger input of 151.
Quantize or not to your like...

Anyone is noticing strange behavior when accessing his/her racks from Android phone. Lots of times when you try to move a module the whole rack is moved as if you have switched on the Rack Lock switch.

you might want a quantizer too if you don't have one already

probably patched between the output of the sequential switch and the 1v/oct input of the vco

if you're going to buy another case - I'd buy another mantis - then you have the option of linking them together

Yes when I said VCO I meant into the 1V/OCT. So the O/I goes to the 1V/OCT. (sorry to ask these seemingly simple questions but I have a very tight budget so any extra purchase has to be really thought through)

You only get unquantized CV from the PP. Put it in the 1V/oct input of the VCO and twist the knobs until it sounds good:) In the patch above you patch seq switch out to 1V/oct in.

EDITED Apr 11th 2023, 19:44

OK I can see that in principle. I guess that leaves quite a bit of experimentation for clocks from Pam's..

However how does the sound then get from PP to a VCO?

My guess is set the A-151V to three steps. Row 1-3 out from PP to input 1-3 and clock it with the same clock as Brains but clock divided by four?

I recently acquired PP and Brains. I read some where (that I can't find now) that I could make PP sequence all 12 steps across the 3 sequencers by using a Doepfer A-151V Quad Sequential Switch, thus expanding it from it's usual 4 steps. Is this correct and if so, how would I patch it please?

Thank you!

And I love it :)
Coral of Oxi Instruments has arrived. 10 minutes after installed, I could manage it flawlessly. I LOVE it! All part are from the Oxi.
fr.
Coral de OXI Instruments est arrivé, prise en main en 10 minutes. Voici un petit short dans l'esprit 80s. Tous les sons sont produits par l'Oxi. Je l'adore !

I've been contemplating adding an additional 108hp to my current system.

Of course I should totally not do it, but alas, here we are.

The bottom 6u are what I currently have in a tip top mantis.
The top 3u is what I am thinking of adding:

(I already have the data bender and wogglebug out of my current rack/ not sure why the image is not showing the most updated version of this rack)

I use the modular for general sonic exploring, leaning towards ambient environments and microsound like stuff.

Also, use it in a sound design teaching environment to introduce students to the possibilities of sound creation.

Lastly, have been working towards using it along with live drums in an experimental/avant-garde/improvisational context.

Thoughts?

Hi Habn.
I've been following your channel for a little while now and I've very much admired and enjoyed your work.
Thanks for putting it out there. Now off to Bandcamp...
Cheers :)

EDITED Apr 11th 2023, 14:04

I'll give it a go, though I normally have both A-138s taken over by Percussion mixing duties.

Shout out to those that preached waiting and thinking more. I moved slowly and really enjoyed what i have, rather than moved fast and wasted time/money.

I have the grandmother, a make noise strega, and strymon nightsky. I've enjoyed that trio so much, but I'm thinking of adding 104hp extenders that attach to the grandmother and this version is what i'm thinking.

There a guy that insulting and offend
Careful
User name Wunderbar
I know who it is I have ip Number
So must stop

Yes, exactly. You can think of the 4 mono channels as 2 stereo processing tools, each one in order to get a control on ‘real’ stereo panning and / or stereo balance.
Ex: Morphagene left out > A-138s in1 / Morphagene right out > A-138s in2
Or: Monsoon left out > A-138s in1 / Monsoon right out > A-138s in2

Because you need the stereo image of a sample in Morphagene or that of the reverb from Monsoon to be better positioned in the song, or it can also be too wide. So, apart from controlling the stereo image for artistic purposes, you can use it to get a good (or better) phase correlation. The more you reduce the gap (in other words, the more you tend towards mono), the less you get problems of phase cancellation, especially with the bass spectrum.

(This phenomenon does not occur in headphones because the left-right sound distribution is necessarily separated, but it can dramatically happen in the case of monitor diffusion. The vibrations of the left and right loudspeakers cancelling each other out... and parts of the song sag or disappear!)

hi, a few months later my first buy i completed my eurorack synth. i like tu use it with a betastep pro and midi keybord. i use it like overall synth, as a bass, as a pad or for soloing line. any comment to upgrade it in the future? now i'm considering to acquire another case, from 40 to 84hp, and fill it with modules like clock divider, ring modulator and sample players. cheers

EDITED Apr 10th 2023, 08:39

Hi :)
Thanks a lot for your nice words! I sent you a private message. Please, check it :)

Emai me bjmodulare@gmail.com

Can someone nail down labels for the controls on this one? I'm kinda gathering what some of these are but some guidance would also be helpful.

A-138s are handy but only input mono signals, though i guess you could use 2 channels panned left & right then the Volume of each channel as Pan.

In conclusion the A-138s could be one of the best tools for ‘real’ stereo panning and / or stereo balance adjustment, ‘to connect between a stereo source and the main mixing’. And as it seems that you have two (If I refer to your Percussion Row. I have only one but I don't blame you :)) we end up with a great additional... ‘Zero HP'.

Easter really is a beautiful day!

Interesting :)

An interesting article around these topics:
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/the-difference-between-stereo-pan-and-stereo-balance

What a thread!

Someone somewhere will make a Stereo one at some point.

i wasnt't aware of the "Panning Law" which totally makes sense...

I found this passive stereo solution. But i assume the Panning Law is not respected:
https://myvolts.co.uk/product/82800/myVolts_Pots_and_Pans_-_potentiometer_volume_control_with_pan_mode_and_mute_button

it shouldn't be that hard to solder short cables with jacks of your choice onto this PCB...

At an affordable price (I have one ;) and it works well :) there is also this: https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/Koma-Elektronik-Attenuator-Cable/art-SYN0004623-000

There's a few here - https://www.thonk.co.uk/product-category/hp-size/0hp/
And here - https://pushermanproductions.com/?s=workmate&post_type=product

But nothing Stereo.