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Hi @Amenbreak, I'm not a fan of name calling of anyone, would you be so polite as to delete that meme please?

No matter the level of frustraition in attempting to fully understand a person's modular issues I feel that stooping to name calling is at best way off topic and at worst is hurtful, mean and school-yard childish.

Yes, I realise the OP has left the forum, but that shouldn't matter. We are all here to discus modular Synths and we can dissagree with each other without this.

Thanks

You know best in what directiion you wnt to take your Rack, if you are thinking of expanding I'd say you can't go wrong with a Marbles or a clone of Marbles. Lots of triggers and pitches which you can keep in tune and remember you cam use marbles as a big weird modulation source with all its outputs.

I enjoy my Indian Reasonator v4, you can make entire patches with it or use it for subtle ambient backgrounds.
I'd say the Trigger in and drum out aren't really needed. Probably a module suited to a specifically 'weird' or bigger case but I can imagne you'd have lots fun with it and the 2hp loop and you could put it through Rings as the reasonator its meant to be for some processing.
I've combined the output from the Indian reasonator with sine waves and put that through a wave folder, lots of ways to treat the output in inthersting ways.
If you are able to dial in your modulation carefully you can make it fairly repeatable too if needed but it can take a bit of faffing about. but yeah, stick it through Clouds, Mimeophon, a big Shimmer Reverb from your FX Aid etc, all lots of fun in my opinion.

It could be thought of as a one-trick-pony but it all depends what you do with it, I'd personally fill your rack with other things first and wait for your next Case or bigger rack before getting the IRv4

Nice chillout :)

Listening on YT now, this flows really nicely.

Seriously, wouldn't have been easier to answer the question on the first post? straight and easy.

-- Dan_ogq

It wasn't a straight and easy question, maybe this makes me the stupid one... I usually am!

For me at least your question was too abstract, as I said before, and without seeing what modules you are working with it made it a really hard question to comment on. Like guessing what joke will fall out of your Christmas Cracker before you pull it.

I've got a Rings as well which is better as a main voice but its nice to have the 2hp Pluck & Bell too.

Something nice you can do with the Pluck is to trigger it with slower triggers than the triggers that guide your pitch so the notes change while the decay is still ringing out.

Good stuff.
You could always get the 2hp Bell.
I do find both my Pluck and Bell rather hard to tune with the small knobs.
One thing you can do with the Bell is to throw its some modulation to the Model input and make a nice Ambient background texture into a delay and reverb.

May I make a suggestion?

If you don't want people to see your rack as it is, make a copy of it, edit out the things you want to be private then make this copy Public so we can all see.

All my racks are Public, they may not be perfect for everyone but I do enjoy playing with them. Currently I will run out of Patch cables before I use up all my inputs and outputs and most patches will only ever use a fraction of the total amount of modules. I tend to set up the basics then leave it for a while and slowly introduce movement and options from other utilities.

Cheers

Cheers :)

Ahh, well its not the way I look at my own system, I've never had a reason to consider any of my inputs and outputs. The OCD is not strong in this one.

For me:
Variety is key.
Spare space is good to have, I will never ask "what should I put in my remaining 4hp" ;-)
I tend to cluster modules of things I want to use together.

I'm with Jim on this, lets see your rack so people can understand your question better. It reads quite abstract because of the lack of context.

If you are meaning something like the DivKid / Instruo OchD + Expander, you have loads of outs, most of those outs could be used with the following to get more out of them:
VCA's
Mixers
Passive attenuators
Attenuvertors
Half or Full Wave Rectifiers
Quantisers
Mults
Envelopes

I'm considering buying an Ornament & Crime mainly for the Quad Quantization.
From what I can see I'll have to get one with a Teensy 3.2 as the firmware for the v4 is completely different.
I literally don't understand Github etc so have no idea if the original firmware is going to catch up to the v4 Teensy.

Anyone know more?
Worth getting a v4 or stick with a v3.2??

Cheers

I came to the conclusion a while back that there are no perfect mixers out there in Eurorack.
I'm ending up with a hotch-potch of mixers to do the job, but this approach does work as you work on Sub-mixing before hitting a mixer you spent a bit more money on for the main outs.
You can get very well featured outboard mixers second hand on ebay etc for a fraction of the price of Eurorack that you would take up a full row of rack space, though I guess if you are doing a lot of Send-and-returns then you will end up filling rack space with modules to do that for the outboard gear.

Its a tough choice.

There is the Shakmat Gemini's Path which I'm considering getting, for keeping things in the rack but giving you full Pump Control!

Maybe a red one too ;-)

Haha, yeah, not just a pair of floating arms :) Cheers

I'm enjoying this little kit build from ST, kit came from Pusherman, quick little build even if I managed to solder a few pins of the power header on the wrong side of the PCB to start with. Followed by spending too long fixing my mistake!!

At first its a bit of a weird one but with a bit of playing around things get more interesting, would work a treat pushing the Pitch through a Quantizer if you want more regular scales.
Then it struck me, I could use the ISI Wren to control the ADDAC VC T-Networks and tweak the pitch of the percussion hits, this is a little match made in heaven for extra percussion lines that will vary and change ofer time without the need for tweaking.
Lots of fun if you like his sort of thing. Rather like the DNiPro DOT controlling the T-Networks with 3 different Euclidean pattern lengths for polymetric patterns but with the added fun of Pitch data!

On the more expensive side you can look at MakeNoise Morphagene (want one) or Mimeophon (Got one) lets you hold a loop in its buffer and if you are clocking Mimeophon you can make it play in time with other parts and get as creative as you like.

I do fancy a 2hp Loop though, maybe 2 of them for Stereo would be fun.

+1 on the Clep Diaz, great little LFO / Stepped Random etc

Cheers @jukeshoe

Thanks @farkas

It felt lke quite a natural flow. Not too many screw ups either ;-)

Cheers @sweelinck :)

Patch Notes - A couple of new modules added recently, the @amsynths AMS110 VCO which gives some lovely phat Sub bass, and a couple of @st-modular Modules, their WAVE LFO & ADSR the latter of which with its Speed switch makes it really performable giving me 3 parts from one sequence and VCO. This heads through the @GM1ify Zverb.
The other parts come from the @geosync TB-0 & TB-EFA for the squelchy Acid.
The weird shit in the tail-out ending is Rings into Clouds and Mimeophon with Pitches from Marbles and freaked with by the @DivKid / @instruo Ochd + Expander

EDITED Nov 19th 2023, 14:42

Well done for not getting shot down for being a Reason user, I seem to recal when i made my first post I didn't fair so well with certain people's comments.

Welcome to the addiction and the quickly emptying wallet!

I originally started out thinking that I would be happy with Euclidian patterns for Drum sequencing but I quickly found I wanted more control so added a Roboux LL8 and later a Beatstep Pro. Is this someting you've thought of or are you completely happy as you are as you already have a lot of trigger options?

I'm guessing you have other gear, synths, sound modules etc?
And bear in mind that closely spaced 2hp-sized module are very hard to use once they are patched and close to other modules.

Not sure if something was just being changed but that 'Legacy Mode' button just showed up as a 'Toggle' button and the reply input form was stopping me use all of my letter keys, some worked and some didn't.
Weirdly now this seems OK again. Must have been a Glitch in the Matrix-mixer!

So other than a Transposer, I guess this will be really useful for calibrating VCOs.
So guessing I'd need a really accrurate Multimeter to calibrate / check this?

EDITED Nov 1st 2023, 16:14

btw...
build a kit! https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/evaton-rf-nomad-kit/

nb the mtm chord organ is the same module with different firmware... so if you really want a radio thing you could also search for that and reflash it...
-- JimHowell1970

If you need a Radio Music module you can re-flash a Prok Drum module as a Radio Music, as I have. The Proks make a lot of machine noise in the percussion environment so 1x Prok on percussion duty is as noisy as I want my rack.

You could also plug-in or recored a shortwave radio for the the lovely Sputnik style sounds, I keep a bunch of samples of that on a Radio Music or Disting.
Ive not done it for a while but I've used snippets of samples triggered by short envelops to be used as evolving percussion sounds.

another option is a cheap outboard mixer - I've used an old inexpensive yamaha MG10 for this for years - works great... no output module, the mixer handles modular levels well...
-- JimHowell1970

I've got a Yamaha MG8/2FX and I used to do the same, plenty of well-priced mixers on eBay too.

The Befaco Out is a good price, especially if you don't mind doing a little soldering https://www.modulargrid.net/e/befaco-out-v3 / https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/befaco-output-module/

One question on my mind: do you have a compressor in or out of the rack? I couldn't quite tell but when I've added one to my acid jams it adds a nice extra flavor to take it to the next level.
-- troux

No compressor, I'm wanting to rig up a ducking effect with a VCA to duck the bass beat but I'm overdriving the 303 through the Making Sound Machines Tausend DB pre-amp so I can crank up the acid when I want to. I guess there may be a little saturation coming from the SSF Vortices mixer too.

Cheers

EDITED Oct 16th 2023, 07:04

Discovering any Bugs? Post here!
-- modulargrid

There is a Lazy fly in our home office, its probably going to die as its that time of year.................

Nice work.

Thanks :)

The BSP is just rested on the modular and is completly in the way at all times, I'm probably going to order some little clip on stands that will hopefully let me stand this right on top of my cases in a fairly upright angle/position.
I prefer the immediacy of controlling drums from the Robaux LL8 than the BSP even if the programing of the BSP is nicer.

I was in Dance-mode in the 90's, I think all things music and design peaked in the 90's and we've never really improved after that.

EDITED Oct 9th 2023, 17:22

Patch based around the Geosync TB-O and TB-EFA sequenced from the Beatsteop pro and then an accent sequence from the Steppy, Steppy also does a patern through an LPG for a secondary sequence which is de-coupled from the Pitches of the main 303 sequence but the TB-O is the the only VCO.

Thanks for listening.

This one yeah?

I think you need just One White or Silver module ;-)

Maybe an MG feature could/should be to add translation to English, though most browsers will translate for you if you right click.

Forse una funzionalità di MG potrebbe essere quella di aggiungere la traduzione in inglese, anche se la maggior parte dei browser tradurrà per te se fai clic con il pulsante destro del mouse.

I really wish I could speak more than a handfull of words from German, Spanish, French and Japanese. Such a good skill to have that I wish was taught when I was at school.

My purely stupid brain just thinks Exponential makes for a more chewy filter sound when the envelope is applied.

I have a Happy Nerding filter with an 18db Low Pass, also as @Farkas says Doepfer do https://www.signalsounds.com/doepfer-a-103-18db-low-pass-filter-euroack-module-tb-303

I've recently built the combo of TB-O and TB-EFA for some proper 303 action which sound great and quite a bit different to my HNVCF's 18db, the HN is good but the TB-EFA is gnarly and bubbling https://www.modulargrid.net/e/ge0sync-synth-tb-efa

Modular is Sh!t you should get a Banjo!

Looks like a pretty sound rack to me.

That sounds like a pretty good call.

So which concept are you preferring?
I can see that its nice to have some portable gear, I don't consider my main case Portable cos its Blooming heavy but I'm working towards having a my Top Case and Percussion Case as being portable and easy to combine with a Beatstep Pro. This leaves my Main Case to be more Generative and experimental.
I want to develop another case that will be more about weird shit and sound mangling from external sources like Pizo pickups etc.

Yep, people's pockets are getting deeper and their arms shorter.

Its definitiely a buyers market out there.

I have a few things I want to sell that i don't use anymore but I know they aren't going to get a good price.
The Roland TB-03 I have and don't use is a prime example, they look to be going for around £200, though in this instance I feel I can blame Behringer for bringing out their fully analogue TD-3 which you can get New for £99 and it probably spounds better than the all digital Roland.

In the beginning we're understandably a bit voracious, but the more we add on the table, the more discriminating gourmet we become.

-- Sweelinck

Never more true words, I am definitley becoming a discriminating gourmet, I even feel like my module-buying is slowly coming to an end.... Shocking I know