Thanks for the advice. I'll skip adding another voice for now. I had also considered adding a Steady State Gate as I loved the LPG sound I got from my erica synths pico system. Maybe get that and the Zadar. I think they'd fit.
I really like zadar - especially as it has built in attenuation...
imo there's not really enough space for another sound source (due to not enough space for support modules for it) - so leave that for the next case - along with a matrrix mixer...
you could probably squeeze in another filter too - if you move things about a bit
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
and the link as way more useful for this purpose
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
Hi all. Just wondering if anyone sees a gaping hole in this rack (in terms of functionality) that needs filling.
I've got the ES-8 and Es-3 going to Ableton, so sequencing duties, drums, and LFO stuff is well covered. I've got a store credit to use and was thinking of either adding a Xaoc Zadar or a Noise Engineering BIA (the new Alia one). Any thoughts on which of those two might better complement the rack? Or is there something else entirely I should be considering. Thanks for any help you can provide.
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_1587986.jpg?1714138229
Which purpose should the rack have?
Which role should it take in the whole gear-setup?
-- VONDENFUNKEN
Yeah, good question...
I would have answered this question much differently a year ago and might have a new perspective next year.
TLDR; I want to be able to sound design and have some paraphonic (mostly analog) voices through Eurorack. Im not overly caring about sequencers/drum modules in eurorack due to existing pieces I have, but would still get anything that demanded itself. I want the ability to continue to learn 'synthesis', hands-on -- I have the entire Arturia VCollection (love it, but want the workflow/experience of hardware). I want (the option) to re-perform my compositions' individual tracks in Ableton through my rig and spice them up with different sound(s), texture(s), modulation(s) and or effect(s).
Edit: reperforming tracks (midi or audio) -- I am also very curious about bi-directional CV communication between my PC and synths, but haven't gone down that rabbit-hole yet, but an ES-8/9 has my attention.
Which purpose should the rack have?
Which role should it take in the whole gear-setup?
Greetings
Chris
WMD Javelin, Frequency Central System X Envelope, ALM Busy Circuits Pip Slope, and (of course, but larger) Intellijel Quadra. Many solutions are available :)
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
Thank you for the feedback Sweelinck. I like your suggestion, could you recommend an envelope module that may be more fitting for techno?
Just one point: Zadar is a great module but in a system for techno music, a more directly tweakable envelope tool might fit better, I guess.
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
I'll mainly be using this for techno and generating weird noises. What would you swap out/replace/add to this first pass at a rack?
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2540586.jpg
so, this is a 6U (top) and 3U (bottom) RackBrute setup.
below is a dfam (w/ mafd) and un-pictured is a drumbrute impact, Jomox airbase 99, keystep pro 37, moog grandmother, keylab 88mkii, motu MTP(AV), and a computer with Ableton Live (Studio/Max). i have some other hardware too, but trying to keep the scope of this post on mostly eurorack.
Eurorack is the newest to the party (started last April) and would love any feedback on existing modules (choices/placement) and modules I'm 'missing' or you'd recommend would be a good fit. right now the 6U is my main focus with the 3U being overflow/new module test bed.
edit: a few modules im interested in are disting mk4, cizzle, and the 3-in-1 new noise engineering (mostly want to try out BIA)
I meant a Eurorack module similar to that delay
-- guidocbt
I know, but anything that doesn't take up hp is fine by me 8'). Try finding a Stretch Weaver module! Nope,
but you do with a pedal. . . .
Check this two:
https://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-sealegs
https://modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-tapographic-delay
Greetings
Chris
I meant a Eurorack module similar to that delay
Looking for feedback on this small system. It's inside an intellijel palette case so there's mults available (I didn't know how to add those in the editor).
I'll be sequencing this via an Oxi One and have reverb/delay effects in a separate case.
Thank you :-)
Seems like I am basically repeating the reply above this one. So +1 :)
As for Musique Concrete, it was about tape splicing/cutting and reversing to create new sounds from existing ones. The module to go for is the MakeNoise Morphagene (very close to the old technique of splicing), but you'll be in heaven with a combo of Instruo Arbhar (grains) and Lubadh (tape). Unfortunately you'll need to complete it with utilities that complement the set. You'll need a clock with lots of CV (Pam's new/pro workout) a Maths wouldn't hurt, a VCA/LPG and some extra effects (FxAid). Often overlooked is that Musique Concrete builds on existing recordings and live captures. Don't forget a simple sample player or maybe even an ES-8 to capture/borrow any audio from the PC/Mac.
Cheers,
R.
It's a machine that demands devotion close to obsession. It's a machine you can fall in love with.
yes, in my main rack I have a lot of modulation modules. I would use one or maximum two specifc modules (i thought matrix mixer for that) to manage in fast way the multitude of lfos and evolving constantly the final process. Obviously I use other modules outside for clock, vca and effects.
I use it to mix complex cvs from different lfos and envelopes.
or to send different levels of audio to several fx modules
Greetings
Chris
An interesting little module. It uses a passive infrared motion sensor(PIR) to turn off, or on, a signal path.
Probably not something you’ll use a lot but could have unique uses.
BTW, this is apparently a limited production run of 100, and I think they’re sold out.
Build was super easy, barely an inconvenience. But you can learn about PIR sensors!
Build
dear all,
a provocation with my question, I simply curious about your strategy with matrix mixer.
thanks
FB
disclaimer: i got one used; i also think it sucks that what they did was without the blessing of Xaoc even if it's not illegal (in spite of the conjecture above, the Batumi firmware IS open source - peep the github - and maybe a different type of CC license would have served the developers better), and at best I'm on the fence about buying new B products since they've starting behaving sketchily.
THAT SAID
does anyone know anything about the viability of alt Batumi firmware on the Four LFO?
...This does not work for you?
-- modulargrid
copy/paste modules does work within both browser windows. but each with its separate server side clipboards.
it makes no difference if i edit the identical rack or 2 different racks. i use firefox and chromium on linux
Haven't seen one, but since they did do a module for their Afterneath pedal, there's a chance
they may for the AR. I use pedals with my system, and there are several ways to interact.
Here's an article about using control voltage specifically with the AR pedal --
https://eqd.my.site.com/url/s/article/Using-Control-Voltage-with-the-Avalanche-Run
I use the Unifx, but of course it is only mono. For stereo pedals I use a dedicated Audio I/O --
You can copy/paste from different browsers..
seems to be persisted in the MG database on a user session basis instead of a user basis!?
-- modular01
I am not sure. But I have successfully tested it right now.
I logged in in two different browsers (Chrome and Firefox on a Mac) with the same account. I could copy/paste modules from different racks.
You hover the mouse over one module in the first browser and press c than go to the other browser, hover with the mouse over the rack (important) and press v. No CTRL, no CMD, no ALT, just the keys c and v.
Keyboard Shortcuts must be enabled, Rack Lock must be disabled.
This does not work for you?
Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net
You can copy/paste from different browsers..
modulargrid.com is now an alternative domain for modulargrid.net.
-- modulargrid
copy/paste modules between .net and .com top level domains does also not work. each site has its own "server side clipboard".
the urls
/e/modules/add_to_clipboard.json?moduleId=xxx
and
/e/modules/get_from_clipboard.json
seems to be persisted in the MG database on a user session basis instead of a user basis!?
A new unpopular feature that nobody asked for: I've limited the number of automatic watchers you can set for offers on the marketplace.
On the module detail pages is that button Notify me if someone offers this module for sale. Standard users can sign up for 5 module notifications, while Unicorn users can set up to 2500 watchers.
The reason for this is that the mail server has been blocked several times due to excessive traffic, causing important features such as user messaging and optin registration to stop working.
Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net
I got contacted by sugarfreedaddy and he said that he will refund (but I did not get a refund yet).
I will update when I'll have something new to share.
First three patches on my new Easel-esque system! Patch notes included:
alias subdomain for MG?
modulargrid.com is now an alternative domain for modulargrid.net. It uses Cloudflare so it might be even a bit faster.
Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net
Hi,
Is there an eurorack module similar to the Avalanche Run ?
Thanks
Ah ok! That's more easy. Thanks
This isn't a Befaco product, but was designed (a bit cheekily) to look like one.
THERE !!!
ok, have fun now, that should fix
"This would get me the instrument (with more capability, but less keyboard?) for about $3,000 less!"
I'd say if you have 3,000 just get the Easel.
Not on the doepfer power cable!
This is on the Belton Brick (aka "brick") itself where it connects to the pcb.
I just soldered it onto the pins on the opposite side of the pcb to the brick.
I've long fanatasized owning a Buchla Easel but with some surplus gear, have been thinking of a filling a spare Rackbrute to achieve maybe the same thing, just without the keyboard.
What do you think? The big difference is the spectral processor but other than that, I already have the Sport Mod (pulsar), Maths (envelope generator + more), the NLC is based on the Easel's wavefolder (this could also be the 208 Timbre DIY but its not on Modgrid yet), URA (for multi-randoms on the Easel). Disting is just there because of leftover space and well, Disting's are amazing...
This would get me the instrument (with more capability, but less keyboard?) for about $3,000 less!
Thanks a lot!
Actually a lot of the graphics are generated using using math that is happening in the module.
Glad you like it.
Thanks, that's a very good advise but I have a doubt... The ribbon is a 10 pin to 16 pin so the 12 and 13 pin are free...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7qwhp909hweeovs6mp5wg/stasis-back.png?rlkey=rbkw3641utqzfy5jhfhz9ua0h&dl=0
Have you a pic of the welded resistance on your brick? I have the bus board of Doepfer. I think the best and easiest way is to weld the resistance behind the bus board but this will fix the position of the module. Should pins 12 and 13 corrispond to the opposite side from red line of ribbon cable?
I notice that the background noise is quite typical for effects modules.
No, it's just on the power supply for the brick.
Numbering of pins on the brick, as it sits moounted in the module, start at 1 at the top.
Last two pins at the bottom are 12 & 13.
I use a ceramic 10u which is perfect. If you have an electrolytic check voltages for orientation.
(I forget, but if you get stuck I'll check)
as far as I can work out, it's the brick that generates the noise, and this gets out into the analog circuitry of the module.
When I created my video Murmuration, I thought: "This patch would totally work as a generative ambient track." So I decided to try it out. I changed a few things in the arrangement, used a lot of modulation, used a different reverb and slowed it down a lot. I really liked the result so I decided to record it and post it on my channel. Please enjoy the music
Raaf
is this will reduce the volume in output? Could you show me the pin 12 and 13 mentioned? thanks
10u capacitor from pin 12 to pin 13 of the brick.
Noise fixed.
i purchased a module from @sugarfreedaddy about a month ago.
several days after payment he sent a message, telling me he had an accident and will ship the module with some delay.
Several weeks later no news.
i asked for a refund. no reply in several weeks.
he still has several ads online. I advise everyone to stay away for now...
I'll edit this post if something changes.
System XZ (tentative name) has 2 primary purposes:
1) a beefed up Paraphonic Synth inspired by Roland SH-101
2) a live audio & sampler mangler intended for ambient drone synthesis
Ideas for Modifying System:
1) SYSTEM FOCUS:
More generative focused system with organic randomizers such as adding 10HP Wogglebug...but remove what? And Pam's Workout takes on Random pretty well, but not "organic" to program or mod. Additionally, the Instruo Scion definitely has my attention with using biometrics for randomization in CV, but I'm curious if it's more gimicky and a tax on 14HP rather than providing completely refreshing results.
2) FILTERS:
Modify the Filter Section and add Shakmat Stereo Filter (Dual Dagger). Intent would be to filter stereo signals and more flexible with both primary purporses of System XZ; however, DXG may currently fit this void well enough. To replace WMD/SSF Pole Zero Filter means losing MOSFET Saturation which is distinctly cool. Replacing Filter from Doepfer A-103 means losing classic 303 Bass Sound...also distinctly cool. ...always opportunity cost when sticking to a budget/case size.
3) MONO vs PARA vs POLY in Eurorack:
Paraphonic synth seems like the sweet spot. I can't justify replacing 16HP for Doepfer Polyphonic Modules such as A-105-4 Quad Poly SSI VCF & the A-135-2 Quad VCA / Mixer.
Especially for Paraphonic synthesis, 2 mono filters are more useful to me than 1 stereo filter.
4) RING MOD:
DivKid Stereo Strip & MN Moddemix both take on Ring Modulation...waste of 6HP or is it worth keeping the Moddemix for more versatility in Ring Mod? I'd argue that Stereo Strip & Moddemix do different types of Ring Mod via Mono in Moddemix & stereo Ring Mod in the Stereo Strip.
5) SAMPLER:
It was a very tough choice between Nebulae V2 & the Make Noise Morphagene, but in the end the Nebulae V2. I've tried the Instruo Lubadh in a past case before, & I didn't vibe with it well. And maybe I faulted, but the Instruo Arbhar is majorly weakened for only having Mono Input, so I skipped. After a week with the Nebulae V2 module, the audio quality is excellent & loading of alternate instruments is very easy. The playfullness of the granular is fun, but not as in depth as a granular processor. It's a middle ground between looper & granular processor, which is perfect. Plus the Nebulae V2 is a DSP Platform, so it's extremely versatile in 2024 with many alternate instruments. That being said I do have an issue with some .Wav files not being properly added to the USB drive, so I emailed Qu-Bit...tbd.
Adding the Ritual Electronics Guillotine & Stereo Stereo Strip may add a foundation for running electric Guitar through the case.
I'd start with the Vhikk X and build my system around that.
Looks pretty good to me. Maybe throw a mult in the 2hp spot (or get a couple of those 0hp splitter type things that are outside the rack).
