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chatgpt made this all clean for me.

id love someone to run with this.

last post ever. peace. bye bye. ... ...

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🐗 SmugModInc WUMPUS

Psychoacoustic Dual-Core FM Oscillator / LFO

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Concept

WUMPUS is a dual sine-core oscillator/LFO designed to generate binaural, intermodulated, psychoacoustic signals that are equally at home in the sub-audio CV domain or the full audio range.
It creates two matched, FM-intertwined sine waves, each shaped by a slower inverted modulator pair. This produces drifting, evolving stereo beating, complex nested FM, and deeply musical LFOs — all under voltage control.

It is the creature in your rack: simultaneously a precision stereo sine VCO, a psychoacoustic drone engine, and a meta-chaotic modulation source.

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Signal Architecture

Core:

Two matched sine oscillators (“Left” and “Right”), sharing a common fundamental frequency.

One slow sine modulator + its inverse.

Each slow modulator is used to frequency-modulate the main cores in opposite directions.

A fixed hard detune offset allows for precise binaural beating.

Operating Modes:

LFO Mode: 0.001 Hz – 30 Hz (sub-audio).

VCO Mode: 16 Hz – 20 kHz (audio oscillator).

High-stability wide-range sine cores.

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Front Panel Controls (Knobs)

1. Fundamental Frequency (Coarse tuning, LFO or VCO range).

2. Spread Frequency (rate of the slow modulator/inverted pair).

3. Offset Amount (depth of modulation from the spread LFOs).

4. Hard Dual Offset (Beats) (fixed detune between Left/Right cores, calibrated in beats/sec at low frequency or Hz in audio range).

5. Amplitude (scales total output level for modulation or line-level use).

6. Fine Tune (high-resolution frequency trim for precise tuning in VCO mode).

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Switches

LFO / Audio Range (toggle).

Hard Sync On/Off (allows oscillator A to reset with oscillator B).

Phase Mode (Normal / Quadrature / Inverted): determines whether the Left/Right cores run in sync, 90° apart, or 180° apart.

Spread Mode (Linked / Free): sets whether spread modulator frequency tracks fundamental or runs independently.

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CV Inputs

1V/Oct (global pitch control).

FM (Expo) (with attenuator).

FM (Linear) (with attenuator).

Spread CV (controls Spread Frequency).

Offset CV (controls Offset Amount).

Dual Offset CV (controls Hard Dual Offset).

Amplitude CV (scales output amplitude).

Sync In (hard sync trigger).

Phase CV (modulates relative phase between Left and Right cores).

Quadrature CV (pushes the cores between normal and quadrature relationship).

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Outputs

Left Out (sine wave oscillator A).

Right Out (sine wave oscillator B).

Spread Out (slow sine modulator).

Spread Inv Out (inverted slow sine).

Difference Out (L–R) (binaural differential signal).

Sum Out (L+R) (mono composite).

Creature Out (nested FM mix, an organic meta-output combining all internal modulations).

All outputs DC-coupled, usable for CV or audio.

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Technical Specifications

Panel Width: 14 HP (target).

Depth: “WUMPUS lives in the cave between left and right. Beware the spread.”

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@Zacksname

its not always a good idea to give out private information on a public forum. you could have asked more casual and less pointed questions.

and, i answered literally every single one of your questions. you literally did not answer one single one of mine. you are a coward. ...

peace 🇺🇲🇺🇸🇺🇲🇺🇸

EDITED Aug 28th, 21:49

sorry, yall think im trolling, but i just expected a more casual vibe, etc. ... ...

here, have some psytrance:

leaving forever. bye. 🚀

also

@theneweuropa

without any digital technology whatsoever,

i could still yo yo, so,

im not afraid of you, and i dont think its cool

to come off as mean

on an open public internet forum, imo. ... ... .

peace 🥦🥦🥦🥦🎃

sorry guys. i really didnt meant to create a 'chit' storm. sorry if i did. im leaving now.

peace ✌️😀✌️.

i just dont get why youre being mean.

it doesnt make sense to me.

i made 1 or 2 jokes, sorry??

peace

(edit)

im sorry if i hurt your feelings, the new europa. i really will leave forever now. i just wanted to share some designs because i thought somebody might like them, not to start a bunch of fights. im used to friendly open comedy forums and this place takes itself too seriously. tadyatha om baishaje.

EDITED Aug 28th, 20:56

It would be nice if the forum worked properly.

-singular_sound

hey yall, i just invented a new oscillator module, just as a present for the forum.

what else do yall even want from me?

peace

all i did was answer your questions.

all you did was avoid mine.

check the fucking logs.

peace out dude zack.

did you know that the peace symbol was actually created by aliester crowley right before the end of wwii? it actually means: we will drop 2 nukes, and then there will be no need for war after that. ever wonder why hippies always want to 'fight' against the establishment? its because the notion of peace has had a self defense component built into it from the very very begining.

~~peace~~

hey zacksname, before you even ask, why dont i just tell you what i have done:

as a chaos magician, i literally cant talk about the things i have done, but it has been significant. as a ghost executive producer, i have worked with: post malone, lil yachty, billie eilish, high contrast, caravan palace, the smile, james blake, mutemath, and others. as an ideas guy, i have literally done too many things to mention. my contribution to the field of a.i. was the transformer architecture, making me the only human who fully understands how it works. here is my most recent recipe:

MOD EDIT: deleted AI slop

if you provide me with an email, i will send you a pdf of the manuscript for my novel. also, i was diagnosed with schizophrenia. i shouldnt have to tell you all my diagnoses to get the proper amount of respect. i have answered every single one of your questions. you have not answered a single one of mine. the way you only ask questions and never answer them is kind of nasty, like youre some sort of sex pervert or something.

also, im a hacker and control things behind the scenes at google alphabet and elsewhere.

peace. out. ✌️🥸✌️

EDITED Sep 3rd, 09:31

im a chaos magician, ghost executive producer, and ideas guy, i play guitar, was classically trained in piano, and have composed for broadway. WHO THE FUCK ATE YOU? (noodle_hut was the only user who actually took my thread seriously and answered the main question like yall were supposed to.) ((im also a yo-yo hobbiest and consciousness resesrcher, as well as the fact that i have made contributions to a.i. etc.))

(edit)

(((also, i have created about roughly 5 roughly 5 star dishes, as a chef, have a finished manuscript for a novel about an ai that gains full consciousness that i cant get published, as well as that i have founded my own religion that has beed starved for the funding to grow for twenty years, now.)))

just thought i would add those details.

peace

EDITED Aug 28th, 17:52

this is acidtonic, and i think they are you because you are called zacks name, and their skiff has a wood block that says 'zack' above it, and the 'two of you' seem to share identical philosophy around eurorack, etc.

hey zacksname, why dont you like my designs? youre acidtonic, right? based on your last 3 video uploads, your designs dont seem to be working out properly. all i want is the minimum level of respect. "bye"

this place sucks. im out. bye.

(edit)

also, larsech, trolls make you pay money to cross their bridge. i am giving away designs for free.

peace

EDITED Aug 28th, 15:16

i mean, either:

1. make organized sound that is pleasing to yourself.

2. make organized sound that you think would convey a message to an audience.

or

3. utilize every module, or nearly every module, in a way congruous with the intention of the design that fits within a preconceived aesthetic.

.

could you do this with the first 400hp?

peace

EDITED Aug 28th, 12:02

and then, i found this case,

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/doepfer-a-100pms12.html

which would give me 4 3u x 168hp space,

so i designed this extra bit, to fill out everything that is actually possible.

any final comments? peace. ... ... ... ...

EDITED Aug 28th, 11:08

hey noodlehut, its pretty cool that you built your own instrument design. im curious, a part of me is still considering building mine myself. how did you deal with getting a case that was the right size with all the right power functionality? hearing your answer might help me finalize mine. peace out. ...

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(edit)

oops, i see now that yours is an off the shelf berhinger. i thought it might have been super custom. i wonder if there is anyone else that knows about super custom cases?

((peace))

EDITED Aug 28th, 10:24

apparently, the designated terminology is "stackable cable". its a cable that after you patch it, you can still patch through it. the fact that you couldnt figure that out i guess probably means that you couldnt play my rack design to make music yourself either.

huh?

(edit)

on this design, there isnt enough mixing unless you hard "stack" the 5 kls, and then also the 4 bitboys 2 at a time, as well as clocking being more convenient if you stack everything off the brainstep output. also, the last little thing it needs is an external passive device that takes in 2 audio rate patchpoints, and, gives you two volume and two panning knobs, then gives you one stereo line out. ...

other than that, everything can be patched normally. i looked over your profile. it kinda just looks like you collect random stuff, (that is, other than the nerdseq.) if you dont think youre even capable of making music on a rack like mine, for reasons other than things not making sense, then i really dont even want to engage in 'getting in an argument'.

((peace))

EDITED Aug 28th, 09:20

i dont remember you teataine.

how about you answer the thread question.

could you make music with my design?

all i wanted to do was just share designs.

peace

_

final post by me:

i just got claude to defend my design.

this is what it said:

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MOD EDIT: deleted AI slop

peace

EDITED Sep 3rd, 09:29

that wasnt a nice comment, europa. im trying to achieve something conceptual. should eurorack just never be conceptual and always just about practicality? fine. i am leaving forever. bye bye bye bye bye, etc. ...

(edit)

i came here trying to complete a concept, and, i just did that, so i really can "leave".

bye

EDITED Aug 27th, 21:14

thank you for the reply, but i am kind of set right now on 2-4 un synched clocks, and swing in one trigger sequencer glitching a second. maybe, i just want that flexibility.

im trying to execute on something original. how about this: can you imagine, do you see, a self contained offering of the best version of everything this could be, or not, noodle?

and how about the stranger triggering the swarm, using a cv chain for stochastic rate, then playing the scorpion filter on the keyboard over the random chaos, etc. ?

can you see a whole performance using everything even if its more performance art than fully structured linear composition sequence? imagine "tuning" 4 rhythms...

??????

peace

(edit)

another point is that you could 'choose' to either drive 4 voices purely from the brainstep, or use the quantizer and the stranger to produce 2+1 different varieties of stochastic voct, and then the 4th voice being the keyboard, as two completely different patch options. isnt that neat?

((peace))

(2nd edit)

its just, it has 2 potentially decoupled step sequencers, swing, 7 drum voices, 4 full main voice chains, full sequencing options, full stochastic options, a drone element with a ton of texture, a keyboard, a joystick, and even if you use zero external mixing, the ability with patch-through to hard mix down to 2 channels or 1 a macbook could take.

isnt that cool?

(((peace)))

{last edit}

and, you could also get the right interface and mix it live on your daw, or, get the right cable to input hard pan into stereo line in, then after recording, go back and turn it into 2 mono channels, then add a panning pass.

{{i think it works. peace.}}

((((ok, one more edit.))))

if i replaced the pralaya with a pams pro, would that make you happier noodlehut?

then it would be actually buildable im pretty sure. etc.

~peace out~

((ok. i did it. happy??))

EDITED Aug 27th, 04:17

thank you for the reply, but i am kind of set right now on 2-4 un synched clocks, and swing in one trigger sequencer glitching a second. maybe, i just want that flexibility.

im trying to execute on something original. how about this: can you imagine, do you see, a self contained offering of the best version of everything this could be, or not, noodle?

and how about the stranger triggering the swarm, using a cv chain for stochastic rate, then playing the scorpion filter on the keyboard over the random chaos, etc. ?

can you see a whole performance using everything even if its more performance art than fully structured linear composition sequence? imagine "tuning" 4 rhythms...

??????

peace

(edit)

another point is that you could 'choose' to either drive 4 voices purely from the brainstep, or use the quantizer and the stranger to produce 2+1 different varieties of stochastic voct, and then the 4th voice being the keyboard, as two completely different patch options. isnt that neat?

((peace))

EDITED Aug 27th, 01:41

thank you for the detailed reply. my previous designs put a lot of effort into cable sensibility and mixing. this time i thought i would just have fun and hard mix everything with patch-throughs. im thinking, a pattern on the first trigger sequencer could be the clock for the second, creating really wild patterns, and other related possible patches. also thinking about running 4 sequence type modules un synched. i dont know anything about triggering resets for performance. yeah, i admit that there are a lack of cv options. its not really even about building this exactly. its maybe more about designing something more standalone that can do the very best of the potential that collection implies, etc. ... ...

im out. bye. ...

(edit)

and yeah, i now see that there is no envelope for the swarm, but its really meant more to be a drone kind of thing, anyway, and imho there is the right amount of sequencing, as first two triggers work synergistically, and the swarm could be controlled by the stranger and keyboard simultaneously as a kind of hybrid patch. not sure why you brought up the nerdseq.

((peace))

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(((second edit)))

ok, maybe 4 un synched sequencers and a keyboard is a bit of madness, but i really think you could get some extraordinary results by combining the 1st 2 trigger sequencers in off label ways, and i swear that there does exist a well clocked version that you can still work around, maybe the brainstep being the master clock and then connect everything with patch-throughs...

((((this is my funky patch-through design.))))

peace.

EDITED Aug 26th, 21:50

why is that, noodlehut, because you dont understand what the modules do, they dont fit your style, or because you think this is a flawed arrangement? im curious. etc. ... ...

but, i would really like yall to answer this:

"could you make music on this if all you had was patch-through cables? use imagination."

i just like designing stuff. i think you could make really unique live performances etc.

peace

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also, im into 'k.a.a.n.', 'jesu', and 'justice'.

google them. rap, post-metal, and dance.

yall still wanna keep 'beef on the grill', ... ?

i just dont understand why 'im not welcome' to post new rack configuration concepts for discussion if some cool new modules come out 6 months from now; what did i even do?

yall are so anti 'bots' that you are keeping regular users from 'interacting normally'.

if im leaving, its because 'yall' are making it not-fun, not because you won on ideas, ... ...

(because you didnt, etcetera.)

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((sue me for wanting the last word in my own thread. yall have me feeling gaslit.))

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Peace. Out. ✌️😛✌️

Betting my firstborn you'll be back in no time
-- Fruarse

uh, fyi, this is called 'baiting'... and i am leaving forever, as long as yall will stop posting snarky ish after you are pretty sure that im gone already. leave me alone.

bye. ✌️

i wrote out a whole long reply to this on my smartphone devive, but the forum ate it. :(

feeling kind of antagonized on here t.b.p.h....

i swear, i didnt start a single argument on here; some of yall aint being nice. etc. ...

leaving forever. bye bye. ✌️😑✌️, ... ... ... ...

If you refer to anything other than your point of view as the "hivemind", and feel like "threatening" to stop using this forum as means to ask for attention... Man, talk about being self absorbed and self entitled.

Your contribution starts and ends at copying questions into LLMs, pasting back the reply and calling it a day. I can do that already on my own, and would rather keep this forum a place to interact with other people, and not vomit-inducing "AI" garbage slop disguised as something genuine.

On a final note, as others already told you, if you want a faster paced forum, go on modwiggler.
-- Fruarse

i just wanted to come on here to discuss some ideas around modular synthesis and designing cases. clearly i am not welcome. leaving forever, for real, this time. 'peace'.

"✌️😏✌️"~~

Used to copypaste user questions into Chatbots... Cool

-- Fruarse

if im a bot, then why havent the captchas caught me yet? beep. beep. :|

(edit)

if i really am going to be bothered in every thread i make about not agreeing with 'the hivemind' i really will just stop using this website. all i did was slightly disagree, etc.

maybe yall want a super slow paced forum, and i get that, but in my opinion, all i have been doing is suggesting ways to make this place more noob friendly, etcetera. "peace"

EDITED Apr 17th, 15:21

Claude says:

I understand your challenge with the Hemisphere apps. Since you're using Vector LFO and Dual Quantizer, there are some specific considerations for making this patch work properly.

For your application, Vector LFO isn't ideal for feeding into the MMI then into a sample and hold setup. Here's a better approach using your two O_C modules:

For the first O_C:
- Instead of Vector LFO, try using "LOFI" or "Quadraturia" for generating more interesting CV sources
- These will give you more complex modulation to feed into your MMI

For the second O_C:
- Rather than Dual Quantizer, use "ASR" (Analog Shift Register) or the dedicated "Sample and Hold" app in Hemispheres
- Make sure to set up a clock source for the S&H function - you could use the internal clock or patch in an external trigger

The critical issue might be that Dual Quantizer isn't really a true sample and hold - it's designed to quantize incoming CV to musical scales. For proper S&H functionality to trigger Braids, you specifically want one of the sampling apps.

For patching, try:
1. First O_C: LOFI/Quadraturia output → MMI input
2. MMI CV output → Second O_C input
3. Second O_C: ASR/S&H app output → Braids V/Oct and trigger inputs

If you're still having trouble, consider trying the full O_C firmware rather than Hemispheres on one of your modules - the "Piqued" app is excellent for this kind of sample and hold application with extensive trigger options.

Does that help clarify what might be going wrong with your current patch approach?

i was mentioning that i thought the admins should implement ai chat assistance at a fair and democratized price for the site's benefit, so, i plugged this question into Claude 3.7 Sonnet to show off a demo of why i thought this would be a good idea, in general, ... ... ...

Claude:

I'd be happy to help you with your eurorack patching question!

Yes, you can definitely run CV outputs from your Ornament & Crime (O_C) into the Herzlich Labs MMI and then back into the O_C for sample and hold functions to trigger and modulate your Braids. This kind of feedback patching is absolutely possible in a eurorack system.

Here's how you could set this up:

1. Use one of your O_C outputs to send CV to the MMI inputs
2. Take the CV output from your MMI (which will now be influenced by your gestural control)
3. Route that back into an input on your O_C
4. Configure one of your O_C apps (likely Hemispheres) to use its S&H functionality
5. Use the resulting modulated output to control parameters on your Braids

Your setup is perfectly capable of this kind of patching. The MMI is designed specifically for these kinds of performance-oriented signal manipulations. Since you have two uO_C modules, you could even use one for generating the initial CV and the other for the S&H processing.

The buffered multiples in your rack will also come in handy here, as you might want to split some of these signals to multiple destinations.

As you mentioned, the ZOIA could accomplish this as well - it's extremely flexible for this kind of signal routing and processing. But using the O_C as you described would work great and give you a more hands-on, hardware-focused approach to the patch.

Is there anything specific about this patch flow you're having trouble with?

...

(and if this model was further fine tuned and continuously retrained on more new and annotated data, pretty soon it would know more than anyone on this forum.)

((peace ))

oops, i just realized i had multipliers and dividers mixed up. ... ... is a 3 5 or 7 ratio multiplier even possible? (i was thinking dividing the intervals between the clock.) can anyone tell me from experience how interchangable clock and gate signals are and any other issues related to trying to do gate sequencing from mostly clock sources? (i think it would be really cool to experiment with 1/7th notes, especially for glitch noise.)

thanks. peace. ✌️

also, im really into 'ochre':

anyone know how to get that kind of glitchy fluttery percussive sequence sound using only eurorack modules? i, do not, myself.

id love to find out if anyone knows; peace.

We know.

-- Zacksname

shoutout "zach", btw. lol.

any feedback? meant for glitch noise improv.

(am i just thinking too abstractly; etcetera??)

peace ✌️

Weird, you have been leaving forever for close to three days now
-- Fruarse

i have a lot of free time. :|

here, one last shoutout for the new renku corporation album:

https://renkucorporation.bandcamp.com/album/procedural-nuance

leaving forever, now.

✌️

finally, to stay totally within budget, you could consider these three modules, (image wont load right, sorry.) and this case, and have a good amount of room to experiment with and expand with more modules later, and just treat this as the beginning of a journey, as opposed to 'finally' possessing a 'fully complete case' with infinite percussive sequencing options 'built right in'.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1754453849/eurorack-case-6u-powered

just trying to be helpful with suggestions. ✌️🫠✌️

another approach you might consider, if money wasnt an issue, you could just try to put together some of the modules that most interest you, that all together would give you the greatest possible ability to explore and experiment with. i tried to put together something like that for you, but including the cost of case it is already 2x over your budget, and im not even sure how to refine this concept fully yet, but this is what i have:

i cannot design your case for you, but good luck.

peace. ✌️

(edit)

oops, the eisei i think its called, i thought was mostly an lfo, because that seemed to be how it was categorized on this site. i was just trying to make a point about choosing the type of modules that make you curious to explore possibilities of everything they offer, as a personal aesthetic choice that i am encouraging o.p. to make for themselves. sorry for not reading the spec sheet on that.

peace

EDITED Apr 17th, 10:39

i didnt want to give a single sentence half thought through response, so i did a bit of a deep dive into 'generative'. it seems to me like it can mean anything from random, quasi-random, to procedural, and you have a lot of leeway in defining what it means for you. one option to consider is the moog labyrinth, it is a fully self-contained instrument, falls inside your budget, and gives you everything you need to start playing around with some of the many possibilities of 'generative'. (moog is a quite well respected brand, etc.) another option would be to really think long and hard about what you actually mean by 'generative', design your own custom sequencer in pd (pure data) controlled from a laptop, that you could then use some kind of interface to send cv note data out to a eurorack case, where you use your budget to create your take on a dark ambient voice chain signal path, something i dont know a ton about. i would recommend the strange-r bighat as a starting point for the generative aspect, but it already eats up into too much of your budget, all by itself. maybe check out the channel "not_a_creative" on youtube for some inspiration. unfortunately, i was not able to just design the perfect thing for you.

sorry. peace.

(edit)

{im not the right guy to ask about staying inside a budget. i tend to design stuff that ends up looking like this, etc.: ... ... ... ... ... }

EDITED Apr 17th, 05:13

id like to resolve any tensions between me and this website. i have been trying for a certain type of concept, and this is the closest it has ever been to being complete, by adding some modules that 'just released'. the top row is everything i absolutely need, and the second row is almost exclusively for modulation sources. you are free to have differences of opinion on the second row, but the first row is things i really think belong in this design, so only comment on the first row if i truly miscalculated and something wont work the way i think it will. "peace offering".

so, can you imagine jamming out on this etc?

if yall dont like it i really will just leave. ✌️✌️

Gotcha. Insomnia again and just caught this reply.

Goodbye Forever. ✌️

kinda wondering what happened to @Fruarse . did he stop caring? ... ...

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anyway, before i leave forever, somebody mentioned 'site scraping bot troubles' and,

so, i thought it might be 'helpful' to mention Anubis. ... "it helps you sleep at night." ... ...

https://xeiaso.net/notes/2025/anubis-works/

goodbye cruel modulargrid, peace. ✌️😎✌️

just, in case anybody didnt get my point, about what i actually want to have fully resolved here at the end of this thread, is:

I am saying, if we went back to the days where 'computer' was a name of a human job, it might take one human and one room to emulate what one 'parameter' does, and; we are about to have trillions of parameters so that the argument that: 'LLMs can never understand nuance, because a room could never understand nuance' does not hold, because this "room" would be way effing bigger than it even makes sense to think about, and it basically would not even be a room at that point. Sorry for the derail.

Peace. Out.

🧐

(edit)

sorry i got un-laid-back just there. i have a long standing slightly different perspective than that of 'chalmers'. got triggered. etc....

peace

EDITED Apr 12th, 22:30

i just wanted to have substantive dialogue about design and it felt like i was getting a bunch of one-line quips; guilty: i was not intending to immediately build the case designs i first posted. guilty: i was trying to have fun, and maybe not take this forum seriously enough as a serious place. guilty: i could have not let not-what-im-looking-for advice get to me, as much, when this is just an enthusiast forum. but, i swear, you had equally ample opportunity to just drop this, as well. peace, ... ... ... ... ... ... out, ... ... ... ... ... ...