Qu-Bit has some cool 2HP stuff that might pique your interest, namely the utility EON and a 2 HP analog VCO, which is coming out soonish.

If you're into really nasty timbres, Synthrotek makes an affordable wavefolding filter called DIRT.

I'm not familiar with the SQ-1 but I wonder how the brute's sequencer would interact with the brainseed. I'm thinking maybe duphonic?

Hope that gives you some ideas.

Cool rack so far. I agree with Exper, but I think Hot Glue and Quad Sputnik are overkill in terms of HP. What do you think about something more minimal, like this? It is a 4 in 1 out mixer in 3 HP that can mix CV as well, and is relatively cheap. Malekko also makes a 3HP mute module which could synergize with your Rosie.

For a basic VCA, I think you could do worse than this.

Sputnik also makes a compact multi VCA/Mixer.

The Optomix is hard to beat for a starter low pass gate, revision 2 is coming out (soon?) and will have even more function.

Doepfer A-150 Dual VCS ist my latest purchase. Anyone using this?

It's one of those generic modules that get little attention because they have no sexy sound or features going for them. At 55 EUR new, there's little to be lost so I just got one. All it really is is a switch that connects one Input with one of two outputs (or two inputs with one output as it is bi-directional, x 2 units). The switch is voltage controlled. That seems more trivial than inspiring. In fact I had no real clue what to do with it until I started patching. Then it turned out to be a real swiss army knife utility kind of thing. Switching the flow between different parts of your patch at low rates is the obvious application that comes to mind. Since it can do audio rates too, you can do things like switching between two different wave types of a VCO or outputs of a VCF, for example. That makes it a wave shaper / wave composer when operated at VCO frequency. Connect a VCO and patch the two outs into clock divider and get alternating sub-octaves. Feed it pitch control CV from sequencer and modulate your switching audio streams with a melody, there's your VCO... I'm only scratching the surface here.

Which makes me think: When I view some fancy complex oscillator or multifunction module as a hi-tech bucky ball, primitive modules like the A-150 ar more like atoms. While on their own they seem to accomplish little but they are so universal in their application that you find new uses all the time. Your thoughts on this?

Thank you for your wisdom. I have watched a few video and read more on it I think you have a great point the it is not straight forward. I will go with a more utilitarian VCA and Mixer. Intelllijel is looking the part. Maybe hot glue or Quattrphonic from Sputnik for the mixer.

In info has been really helpful!

Have you read up about the rxmx and what it does? It's far from a normal mixer. It's sort of a hybrid scanner/vactrol gate. So, you send cv and gates into it to trigger certain channels over others in time. It's interesting in that's it's meant to hardware into the DPO or their fixed filter module, but it's not going to help with mixing and controlling cv stuff. Not saying that's bad, but maybe still plan to add a small basic utility mixer.

For vcas, you could go in one of two ways. First, a traditional VCA for both audio and CVs is really helpful and flexible. Remember that vcas not only control sound but any analog signal. So you use them to control the amount of a modulation source over time, gate it on and off, etc. For that, a VCA that can do linear (voltages mainly) and exponential (mainly audio). Fir that I'd recommend the Intellijel uVCA mkii. It has two channels, both of which can be swept between linear and expo, much like the two main channels of maths. Because it has a lot for that, and not just a switch like other vcas, means that you can fine tune the response to your liking. I would not recommend make noise's VCA offering (moddemix) as it's not meant to be 'normal'. It heavily distorts/colors the input sound which you may not always want.

Another alternative for a 'VCA' is to get a low pass gate module. These are vactrol based, and impart a nice, natural shape to sound. Input a quick trigger, and it decays the sound just like a plucked string, without even needing an envelope to control the decay. This is less useful for cv, but the ones that make noise offer (Optomix for instance) can still process it, just with that natural decay acting almost like a slew to the cv bring out in. Not always useful, but interesting. LPGs are the core of the west coast sound, especially combined with a complex osc source like the DPO. If you like those plucky percussive sounds that buchlas are known for, you might want to consider a LPG.

Thanks so much for you input. the CR may be the tool i switch out because it is in a back order. I'll take the space add the VCA and a mixer. For the mixer I like a RxMx but I am not sure which way to go with the VCA.

The most boring mixer yet the perfect mixer. It's simple and inexpensive. It keeps things mixed. What more do you want?

The most boring mixer yet the perfect mixer. It's simple and inexpensive. It keeps things mixed. What more do you want?

Great lpf. The sweep can get some really deep sounds and as you open up the cutoff, bass decreases in typical 4-pole fashion. The vca circuit is a nice touch for some grit. Oscillating functions are in order and are as pure as a vcf oscillating tends to be from my experience.

After a uVCF and MMG, this is definitely what I was looking for in sweeps. If you're hung up on the bass, don't get 4-pole or turn down the resonance and the problem is solved.

WHAT NO FILTERS?!

Yes, but consider: two cross modulating complex oscillators, wavefolders galore, a giant matrix mixer and Warps AKA the modulation Swiss army knife...I have more fun mashing signals together, but that's just me!

Digital and Analog, plenty of logic, totally different sounding oscillators, polyphonic, stereo and lots of matrices (I love matrices!)

So...people who like additive, what would you change?

I purchased a Mutable Instrument Links from @grieve on a Friday, and it arrived on a Monday. Supper fast shipping, Thank you! Having fun with the new toy now!

Mixing is not just for audio, but for combining cvs, multiple waveforms from your osc before filtering, etc.

With the moog and dark time, it's good that you have a few more pieces to the puzzle, but I'd still say you need an extra filter possibly and a VCA source. Otherwise your only way of gating the sound of the doo is to route it through the moog's VCA and filter. You could look at a low pass gate for this, as it will pair well with the dpo's Buchla-like tones. Next you have a noise sour which I presume you put in for HHs and other percussion sounds. That just outputs steady sound, so you need filtering/vcas for that as well. Consider a more fully functioning module for that, such as the rest of the mutant drum series.

As for the octocontroller and CR, are you aware that the octocontroller does gate patterns and clocks as well as cv? That alone is even a lot of sequencing power for your system. If the CR's complex pattern chaining is important to you, then consider swapping the octocontroller for a more hands on cv source that can do sequences, modulation, etc. Plus, I'm not super familiar with the Fh-1, but doesn't that also do sequencing, modulation and lfos as well? You have a lot of complex stuff in that bottom row, but it's all deep programming and layers, so it could take a lot of the immediacy of having a modular system away from your experience. Trust me, I love deep modules (I have 2 shapeshifters), but that's stuff I added once I grew beyond my first 2 rows.

Thanks for the input. So I am a Nob to all this, but my logic is I am rhythmically oriented so I expected the arp on octocontroller to effect Maths and circadian rhythm(CR) for the drums. Mixing I planned to do off board.

Pitch, I do have a darktime. but maybe dump the CR, I also have a Mother 32, which spirited this venture into modular.

I think it's missing a lot. Utilities, mixing, vcas, etc. Do you really think that you'll need both the octocontroller and circadian rhythm in that system. What about pitch sequencing, etc.

I have this sweet rack I have built but I feel it is missing something... Input would be great

Absolutely - Rubicon / Dixie / uFold / uMod. E560 can be used as a stand-alone sound source (in feedback mode) but more generally I use it as a seasoning in sound design. It's characterized by sometime fuzzy, crispy-frying textures, most noticeable in the warm surge towards the end of the piece. It's the kind of module that should interest anyone: for distinctive IDM glitching, or more subtly, to add dimension to a mix by providing an almost threshold level background\atmosphere on which to drop more foreground sounds. I use this module a lot!

EDITED Feb 1st 2016, 21:04

Whatever works for you is alright by me. Both the sq-1 and the mircobrute can talk CV so you should be good to go. Oh and as far as completeness -- modular synths seem to be preliminary by nature!

I've honestly just been using a Korg Sq-1 to sequence/control everything. It's a primitive setup but I'm really liking it so far. I originally bought the Lil Monster as a second oscillator for my Microbrute and then spiraled out of control from there...

Hi, so far I have the Pittsburgh 10.1 plus and Wasp filter. Any advice or suggestions would be very helpful. I'm in a synthwave band sounding mostly 80s newwave and punk. Im hoping my rack is linked to this thread. The rack name is Mr. Wiggles.

I am controlling it with a beatstep pro and a midi keyboard.

EDITED Jan 31st 2016, 19:40

E560 Sounds very interesting to me!
Did you use other modules in that clip?

Do you plan to use any external controllers?

Multi-tracked, but I think this is a good indication of the kinds of sounds you can get with the E560. Using the feedback facility, you can even use it as a stand alone sound source. Highly recommend this great module!

Thoughts on completing this? I was considering buying another oscillator?

This module image change was a definite downgrade .

Recently purchased a Mutable Instrument Links from @grieve. Transaction was simple, shipping was swift and well packaged. Module was as described in good condition. Seller was courteous and responsive to requests. Much appreciated.

Am I the only one who thinks either the position of the Pre/Post, and the Mute/Solo button should be swapped, or the position of the Level, and Send pot?
---added---
Now it looks right – thank you! :)

EDITED Mar 14th 2016, 16:45

Awwww, unfortunate. Thanks for the response and good work.

That would be a big change. In fact the whole database has to be changed. This will not happen, sorry.

Hey,
Instead of going by 1HP increments on the rack, can you do .5 increments. Being that each Shop Panel is 17 HP and an MPanel is 8HP going to .5 for the edges would make it nice since the smallest "module" is 1HP and I can cut up proper spacing for the edges of shop panels and Mpanels and add them. I would like to do some work and go through the serge modules and add them so custom panels/mpanels are easier to make and have proper spacing for the edges of the panels. Is this possible or something that can be easily done? Thanks!!

@bunyi_acak, @LiquidYzer, @mexicane, @moriyama, @tobi and @piticha are all great sellers!

Qu-Bit Electronix vi facebook: Current HP is 24. It will be slightly larger on the final version after we add aux send/return.

Just had a great experience with a purchase from @grieve, communication was clear, shipping was fast, and the module was just as I expected. Thanks!

Replaced MI Branches with DubJr Mk 2 because Chronoblob is too much HP and Clocked Delay > Bernoulli Gates.
Replace Discrete OTA VCF with Quad Temporal Shifter? Already have Moog and Three Sisters for filters.
* Could always get the VCF later and swap as needed.
Replace Linix with Tangle Quartet and O'Tool?

Still never get: Branches, Shades, Quantum Rainbow, Chronoblob, Warps, Yarns, OmniMod, uScale,
Discrete VCF, Telharmonic, O'Tool, Tangle Quartet, Hats, Variatic Erumption.

EDITED Feb 7th 2016, 15:17

This is my first attempt at putting together an "ideal" rack. I'm aiming to build the lower half first to get started making patches and learning the ropes. The upper half is more for explorations into the unknown - once I have a handle on patching, this will constitute the polyphonic side of the rack

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_240568.jpg

EDITED Jan 25th 2016, 22:44

The WMD/SSF collaborations/modules are listed as SSF
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/steady-state-fate-mmf

Cheers,

KNYST

Already in the database:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-nobots-double-buff

Disting in LFO mode

Mult on left info
1. pitch out from Microbrute
2. Gate out from Microbrute
3. Envelope from Microbrute - set at 0 attack, 2.5 decay, 7 sustain, 0 release

Audio by PERSONATOR
Images by oktored

Please enjoy with a proper sound system or headphones.

You want to say something very original and sophisticated, but you don't know what?

Introduce yourself, or say Hello!
-- solitud
Hello again

Doing well really loving this site

I've gained a little control after a buying spree

Still have some gear in boxes after a move dabocle.

Posting new track in the other thread.

CHECK IT OUT PLEASE.

Also new record coming out soon look for that.

You probably need to figure out what desnity means before you judge ;-))

i think a part of the pleasure is to build it, am i right ?
That's what I thought and still think ;-)
Don't stick to my list too much, it's incomplete.
Just looking at the starter systems will get you an idea of what to get.

Starting something new is alwas fun. In my case it's not so new anymore
but the fun kept coming. Only your own experience will tell what is right.
Your system will change anyway as you go along and learn.
Just allow enough time to learn the modules you get,
because it's the player, not the gear.
Fun to you!

Somehow didn't think of this earlier. There is a guy with the handle
The Tuesday Night Machineswith who has a series of very useful videos on modular on youtube:

EDITED Jan 25th 2016, 19:36

Not really, but the guitar pedal is just a few components soldered point to point, so my guess is it isn't deep at all.

Send them an email and ask.

Cheers,

KNYST

Thank you wiggler55550 !

You helped a lot !

Yes i go for Eurorack, like you said, a lot of choice.
The Doepfer starter kit is nice...but i think a part of the pleasure is to build it, am i right ?

So basically, for a good start, i need :

• Oscillator module
• Envelope module
• Filter module
• Lfo module

Again thank you for the infos and your time

EDITED Jan 22nd 2016, 20:07

panel typo: "Desnity" instead of "Density"

Simply a fantastic and so versatile module. Brings you to a very strict way of synthesis….and much more!

Welcome soissons!

As for how to start I can tell you what I did: I collected used Doepfer modules (and anything else cheap I could find). I just wanted to avoid sinking thousands into new gear while figuring out if modular was for me. After I had a basic collection I got a (new) power supply and built a case out of cardboard. -

That said, you will first want to get the most basic modules : Oscillator, envelope, filter, lfo. Depending on what you want to do you will need some kind of note producing controller to actually play notes. Like a keyboard, midi interface, sequencer or even an lfo and a quantizer to give you stepped sequences of notes out of continuous voltages.

And no, you don't have to go full Doepfer (or any other brand). The beauty of modular is that you can combine any modules from the same format. Since you named Doepfer that would be Eurorack which IMO is a good start because it is cheaper than other formats and it has the greatest variety of modules to choose from (currently something like 800, not sure)

Hope that helped?

P.S.
Doepfer has ready made systems too: http://www.doepfer.de/a100s_e.htm
Pittsburgh has what probably ist just enough to be called modular: http://www.thomann.de/de/pittsburgh_modular_system_10.htm?gclid=CImXsfLou8oCFeTnwgod7rYHdw

My own 2x84 rack of around 50% used stuff looks like this:
I have around 1200 EUR in it.

EDITED Jan 21st 2016, 21:16

Thanks @Donics! Good seller :-)

Hello guys !

I'm pretty new to the "modular world" but i find it exciting.
I'm going to start a 84HP "cheapo" eurorack (with the Doepfer A-100LC3 Low Cost Case)

I need yours advice to build a "basic" system to start, cheap as possible, Max 500-700 euros ...(my budget is very...well...not very modular :)

A 84HP to start playing with, learn basics, experiment, etc...
And i can improve it, after some time (and money save )
Do i have to go "full" doepfer ? Some module are essential to start?

Thank you guys for your time ;)

PS: if you can point me to "cheapo" example "racks" here on modularGrid racks page, that would be cool

@gis_sweden, come on you, not worth the trouble