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what are you going to sync to anyway?

yes is a good pen plotter, I can reccomend it

about realtime drawing I believe is hard to do it..( I do not have any info or knowledge in order to obrain this result)

Ate the moment I'm using Touch Designer as software to erlaborate MIDI signals from an Arturia MK 3
The software can map the MIDI controls and after you can create your own project ( I0m still learning TD to obtain somethin.. perhaps an SVG )

The VCMC by Befaco can be my solution, it is expansive !

I will keep to study in that way-
Hope to achieve some good result soon..

+1 on Ochd.

I really like the Clep Diaz, but that's more rhythmic, and the Ochd would be more fun than the Doepfer.

It's synchability is not strict, of course, but that's its charm!

Hi all,

I have rings and beads in a POD 32 mobile set up. Having a blast, but still undecided about the best mod source for the unit.

I am torn between the Doepfer Quad LFO (cheapest but not syncable), the ever popular Ochd and the Noise Engineering Clep Diaz.

Would greatly appreciate any thoughts or opinions re these or other 4hp module alternatives.

Many thanks!

Thank you so much for all these info

tbh you could use veils as a mixer

sweet, I will then just prioritize Pam / Maths / Veils / Aid Pro

I was trying to look here on modulargrid for matrix mixers and reading a bit about them, they do look super interesting, if you have any to suggest please feel free. It won't be an immediate purchase as I seriously need time to experiment with these modules as soon as I will be able to get them all, but always good to consider for future needs.

Pams will do all that - read the manual... if you don't understand anything - just ask (no stupid questions etc)

amazing, will surely do.

& I think you mean marbles not beads, marbles is a (quantized) random cv and gate generaor, beads is a granular/delay/reverb and the only mutable module not open sourced (may be in the future, only Emilie knows) so could be expensive

yes sorry I wrote the wrong thing, good to know this info too.

One last thing, similar to the mixer, if you have any module you would reccomend please feel free, it won't be anything for right now, but would be good to start to have an idea on expantion and where to expand.

Thank you again.

thank you so so much for the reply!! super useful.

No problem, good!

oh i wish i had a mom32, i have a midi keyboard komplete kontrol m32 :) i'd trade anytime hehe

ah I misread (or mis-assumed) - I only really know modulars, guitars, effect pedals and some older synth stuff

hehe touchè the original plan was to get plaits, but then a quite cheap rings came about and i couldn't let it go :) but get your point i'll definitely keep it in mind.

often happens like that...

sweet, i'll swap things out later and evenirally get the bigger AID

I'd really prioritise the pro - I had the xl for at least a year before the pro came out & like a lot of these multi-function modules it got stuck on a single algorithm... until I bought the pro... plus the pro has a basic scope built in which beginners often find useful - although patching whatever signal into a simple vco (some of the plaits modes will work) and listening is just as good if not better (use your ears not your eyes!!!)

the MIDI i guess would be to play it piano style, but yes surely not my top priority.

yeah but remember not polyphonic...

do you have any suggestion for the mixer?

just to recap
Pam -> (plaits & rings ) -> maths -> mixer -> veils -> fx aid pro

tbh you could use veils as a mixer

do you know if i could trigger randomic/generative sequences with these modules alone or then i would need to buy beads (clones) or something similar ?do you have any suggestions?

Pams will do all that - read the manual... if you don't understand anything - just ask (no stupid questions etc)

& I think you mean marbles not beads, marbles is a (quantized) random cv and gate generaor, beads is a granular/delay/reverb and the only mutable module not open sourced (may be in the future, only Emilie knows) so could be expensive

Hey, thanks

I think you are right, Plonk is not needed here as Squid is a sound source on it's own.
The massive filter seemed a good idea as it is actually 2 filters with drive and fm so it can handle 2 sound sources.

there are smaller filters that will do this... also 2 individual filters is often a good idea - they sound different...

I will have a look at zadar and batumi expander as I am not aware of them

read the manuals thoroughly and make sure you understand them before you buy the modules = less surprises - if you have questions, ask...

I was thinkin about doing the mixing on the iPad but if space alows it maybe submixing would be usefull

sub mixing is for adding sound sources oir individual waveforms before processing with for example a filter...

It is something I do in VCV with S&H + VCA + polyphonic quantizer and logic. The idea is to make melodic progressions by grabing a note from the melody and randomly routing it back to the root note input of the quantizer. I also try to change rythms and add silence in the same way. I use logic to space events out or add randomness. But I am not very experienced so maybe there are better ways to do that.

Pams can do this on it's own...

Squid could also be used as a way of building a library off sounds created with the modular. These sound can then be triggered or sequenced and give me 8 more sound sources.

imo that is a lot of sound sources in such a small case - where often each sound source will want processing...

I think this could be very interesting, but I would not know a solution in real time as you have to convert your music (or rather elements of your music) to a SVG file (it can't read jpg or png, your plotter needs a discrete vector format says the manual). So you can't just let the plotter do stuff while you jam with your gear. The plotter needs a closed file in a discrete structure to work. For example a SVG-File needs a header that starts with "svg" and an end of file that is marked with "/svg" . Thats what you can submit to the device .

I own a VCMC by Befaco. With it you could record your modular session and bring elements of your music to MIDI. The VCMC is very versatile in that regard. On your PC I'd say python is the perfect tool for the task as python has libraries that can read MIDI-events and libraries that can create SVG -files (these files are structured like XML files, but specifically for vector graphics).

But with python you could convert whatever information your MIDI file has to whatever element you want in your SVG. A simple task to start would be one note to one strike on paper. Note pitch to y-position and note length to length of this line. But it can really be whatever you want. A quick look at the SVG-documentation shows the huge potiential of shapes you can get.

This sure needs some research and developement but I'd say it could look super rad. But i am afraid you'd need at least basic programming skills for that. And it could take quite some time to get nice results. Thats a really nice plotter you have there. :)

EDITED Nov 26th 2023, 22:39

SOLVED.

After lots of tinkering and re-patching, best approach seems to be to adding a VCA at the end of the Kick drum patch using the ADSR out2 to tame the voltage variation. Got lots of pumping from the A-119 now. :)

Super simple patch:
Kick drum -
Gate -> ADSR (A-140-2) -> CVF A-105-2 -> Out

Ducking -
Kick drum -> A-119 -> Envelope Out -> A-138j (inverted) -> VCA processing bass synth.

The A-119 basically can’t distinguish a ‘clean enough’ kick sound to generate a smooth envelope. No issues with samples, use this setup all the time.

thank you so so much for the reply!! super useful.

oh i wish i had a mom32, i have a midi keyboard komplete kontrol m32 :) i'd trade anytime hehe

hehe touchè the original plan was to get plaits, but then a quite cheap rings came about and i couldn't let it go :) but get your point i'll definitely keep it in mind.

sweet, i'll swap things out later and evenirally get the bigger AID

the MIDI i guess would be to play it piano style, but yes surely not my top priority.

do you have any suggestion for the mixer?

just to recap
Pam -> (plaits & rings ) -> maths -> mixer -> veils -> fx aid pro

do you know if i could trigger randomic/generative sequences with these modules alone or then i would need to buy beads (clones) or something similar ?do you have any suggestions?

again thank you so much for all your help, really appreciated

it might be an idea to diagram your patch... so we can work out where your 'intermittent +ve voltage' is coming from

you could just use the envelope for the kick and inverrt it for ducking vcas... no need to envelope follow the kick...

there are plenty of things you could do with mom32 - just send sync or a sequence or modulation - or a combination of all 3 - remember mom's pitch is offset though...

1 of everything? but 2 sound sources - see my signature to see how to get the most versatility from your patching for least expense... have a good long think about how this (especially the formula) applies to your rack

I'd not buy a fx aid - I'd buy the pro version though - why? ergonomics, modulation and most importantly being able to tell which algo you are using without a cheat sheet - if you decide you need a second fx aid at some point you can use the pro as an inrack cheat sheet - just sync the 1st 32 algos - so a regular or an xl would be fine

no idea about the alm cases - I'd suggest a tiptop mantis - best bang for buck case (hp/cost/decent quiet power/manufacturer reputation)

nothing screams wrong
why would you want midi?
I think you'll want a bigger mixer than the field kit

I'd add a matrix mixer next... really useful for getting more interesting (& attenuated/attenuverted) modulation out of what you have there

tbh I'd buy pams, maths, a matrix mixer and a quad vca (I'd go for a veils clone for this though) to start... and then an fx aid pro

hope this helps

Hey, thanks

I think you are right, Plonk is not needed here as Squid is a sound source on it's own.
The massive filter seemed a good idea as it is actually 2 filters with drive and fm so it can handle 2 sound sources.
I will have a look at zadar and batumi expander as I am not aware of them
I was thinkin about doing the mixing on the iPad but if space alows it maybe submixing would be usefull

Squid I want to use for cv live looping to build nice melodic and harmonic progressions.
It is something I do in VCV with S&H + VCA + polyphonic quantizer and logic. The idea is to make melodic progressions by grabing a note from the melody and randomly routing it back to the root note input of the quantizer. I also try to change rythms and add silence in the same way. I use logic to space events out or add randomness. But I am not very experienced so maybe there are better ways to do that.
Squid could also be used as a way of building a library off sounds created with the modular. These sound can then be triggered or sequenced and give me 8 more sound sources.

Basicaly what I what to avoid in modular is a continuous flow of sound playing on the same rythm and notes :)

Finally found a great kick drum sound using a Doepfer A-105 and pinging it with an ADSR.
The problem is the resulting kick drum sound has an unstable (intermittent) positive voltage in the artefacts of the resulting sound, making it useless to generate envelopes to duck VCAs.
Has anyone got any tricks to make a more 'stable' sound. Quick term fix seems to be a low pass filter (set very low) before the envelope generator, but I'd rather be able to fix the kick sound itself.

EDITED Nov 26th 2023, 09:01

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2409780.jpg

EDIT:don't get why the screenshot is a bit funked, so ye i have the beads in instead of the dual dagger

hello everyone,

this is my very first rough plan at making my first eurorack and i would like to ask for opinions and help on the design aspect and module reccomendation.

the goal

i would like to explore the sound possibilities erorack has to offer, so the main goal for this is synth sound modulation. i also love entropy and randomness as well, so i'd like the synth to be able to "run" and create sequences of its own. the sort of sound i would like to achieve is soft and mellow, i love lo-fi music, and soft ambient. my favourite piano is the rhodes mkII just to give you an idea but i would like the rack to be able to produce both bass and lead sound and all in between.

the gear

i do possess other gear as well that i intend to play with alongside this instrument. i do own:

• M8 ( with which i plan to program the drums )
• OP-1 ( plan to jam on top with it and further drums )
• Norns shiled ( probably add depth to the whole song )
• Field Kit ( plan to use as a mixer with everything plugged together )

As you can see i do own some external gear i want to use in conjuction, so i'd really like to focus on the synth sound and random sequencing ( at least initially ). i also own a MIDI Native Instruments M32 it would be awesome to be able to control the rack with it too.

the rough plan

As you can see from the link to my rack rack_V02 i've chose a case which is just 3U. i think i will end up buying a 6U, most likely the ALM Busy Circuits 84 HP 6U ( i would love to know some feedback if anyone has a case from ALM already ). the reason i just set up the 3U in rack_V02 is that i plan to buy some things initially and probably expand further with time, as of now i won't be able to expand further the single row, so i just wanted to focus there. that is to say, the 6U is really the space constrain i am working with.
the goal would be to buy 1 module a month ( roughly ) and so buy first the modules that will allow me to get a fucntioning system, so get to a working instrument first is the major goal. meaning i'd prefer not to buy 2 filters first for instance :), but buy one of everything then expand.
of the system i already own plaits and rings

sorry for the long intro, i just wanted to give context which i hope gives you enough info. if you have further questions feel free to ask.

lastly, here what i am still wondering.

in the current system i don't have any midi in ( that i can see ) as said i woild like to interact with the system with the m32, what would you reccomend?
is there anything in the system that screams WRONG and is it actually accomplishing my goal stated at the top? Are there different modules you would get instead? Whay would you raccomend i buy first to get a functioning system? And really anything you might think of, i am a total noob in terms of modular and i am studying things as i go. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thank you

b y e

carol

EDITED Nov 26th 2023, 05:52

Since I can't do without the 914 I plan to combine it with the 995 and 903A and a ADDAC104 in a second 48 HP case. What do you think?

Yeah, when you have tasted blood once ...
-- Jockl

just get a proper sized case so you don't keep buying them - a tip top mantis for example

take a look at my signature and think about it for a while and how it may relate to your rack...

Hello All...
I'm new to the forum and have just begun to enter eurorack world.
I have attached my proposed set up. I currently own the Doepfer ribbon controller/module, the filter bank and have the Kobol on order. I'm hoping the bottom rack will serve 3 purposes.
1. as a supplement to Behringer
2. as a pseudo Trautonium, using the filter bank and subharmonics
3. as an ext. audio in for sax/flute using the env. follower, ring mod, etc.
I currently don't feel the need for a sequencer or effects, as I can do that through my DAW.
I welcome any suggestions/comments..
Thanks!
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2378196.jpg

& the link (cos jpgs suck)

& onto remarks:

too many sound sources for this size rack... 1 per row is a good rule of thumb... that way you end up with enough space for the support modules that they need to get the most out of them

sequencer and quantizer? quantixer not really necessary as sequencer includes quantizer...and Pams can alsoo act aas a quantizer if needed

how are you intending to use the sampler??? percussion? if so do you really need the plonk?

only 1 massive filter? I'd go for something smaller... so there's more space for something else...

no expanders for zadar/batumi? they are useful...

no submixing? I'd go for a happy nerding 3 * vca - it'll add a vc mixer in...

take a look at my signature and think about how it relates to your rack - the formula especially gives more versatility in 0patching for least expense...

not convinced of the need for a logic module - pams has logic built in...

I'd want a matrix mixer for combining modulation sources to make more interesting ones

the rack is a weird size usually 84hp or 104hp is standard - not 86hp - I'd go for 104hp, this way you will have space to expand and add functions you've missed... or as you start buying modules those you decide you want instead - no plan survives contact with the enemy (in this case the enemy is you)

having mixing and effects in the rack are actually great ideas - it's modular you can connect them however you feel like - delay before a filter... reverb before a vca... mixing sound sources before filtering or whatever - experimentation is key

EDITED Nov 26th 2023, 02:41

Hello CV nerds,

After playing around in vcv I would like to build a modular system that is compact yet complete ;) lol

• Mixing and fx will be done through an iPad.
• For drums I will be using a Pulsar 23

I was thinking about something like this : https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2409886.jpg

!

• Do you guys see any incoerance ?
• Lack of functions ?
• Do I have enough VCAs ?
• Do I really need Maths ?

Pulsar 23 works in 0-10v range so I would need a way to amplify eurorack signal by 2 (I think).

• Is Pam capable of sending Pulsar 23 "compatible" gate signals ?
• Could I use the ES-9 and the Aum iPad app to amplify a function or an LFO before sending it to Pulsar 23 ?
  • Maybe I need a dedicated module ?
• Do you know any Oscilloscope iPad app that can be used with the ES-9 ?

Last question :

• What modules would you recommand me to buy to get sarted ?

Thanks in advance for your time and knowledge

I finally swapped the Behringer 995 and 903A for a PPW and a Doepfer A-183-5. While I have plenty of fun tickling my Subsequent 37 and the Z5000 with PPW I intend to swap the 914 for one or two synth voices and a mixer. Which modules would you put in the 28 HP that are freed up by the 914?

Since I can't do without the 914 I plan to combine it with the 995 and 903A and a ADDAC104 in a second 48 HP case. What do you think?

Yeah, when you have tasted blood once ...

yes via a computer - there is no mid ir cv on the plotter

the fh-2 is not the right module - it is "midi to cv" you need "cv to midi cc" - befaco and addac make them - if you can find something to convert that to svg - looks like it can cope with more than that - jpgs etc too

take a look at processing - it can definitely handle midi inputs - and you can tell them what to do - I'm sure there's a graphic output library for it - if it's not svg then there are prograams that can convert whatever to whatever... how you interpret the midi cc messages would be up to you... it's very simple java programming and there are lots of examples

thanks for the reply
so ypou mean to do that trought PC?

I saw the module FH2 from Expert Sleepers, is a MIDI to CV module: https://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/fh2.html

but I cannot figure how to make some connection

The plotter print .SVG files

that rebel technology module looks very similar to the befaco and as they sit next to each other and collaborate I suspect it's the same module... but I might be wrong

it looks like it's more suited to working with a computer (ie no MIDI or CV inputs) - I'd look to see if any of the supported software on whatever computer can accept midi input... if so then you'd need a cv to midi module - probably one that outputs MIDI CC not notes...

there may also be ways to generate jpgs from audio - you might want to look at processing3 or similar - again you'll probably need a cv -> midi cc module

good luck... & let us know how it turns out & show some pics if you manage to get it to work!

Bug report is for half-height modules in Buchla - I know they're more or less discontinued at Buchla, but there are still some third party manufacturers (Norhthern Lights) that do some.

Basically, the disorganization cat will sometimes show up, even though you half the half height modules in the right place, and save / reload of a rack will move them around, sometimes stacking them both at the top of the full unit, then mistakenly saving modules in the same slot.

Try the Clean up the mess! function in the edit menu!

Hello MG and fellow users! I feel like I suggested this feature in the past but I don't clearly recall...

I'd like the ability to purge (remove) unused modules left over (at the bottom) after reducing the size of a case. Is this something others might want? Is it easily doable? Thanks!

I'm thinking about visual and sound and looking a way to connect a pen plotter to my eurorack modules.

Any suggestion?

My plotter is Idraw H - https://idrawpenplotter.com/shop/ols/products/idraw-pen-plotter-h-version-a3/v/DRW-PEN-PLT-23-H-VRS1-EU

I like how complex yet simple it is!.

No. Just came across it while browsing today & thought of your post.
Have no knowledge of it to be honest

FYI: https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Rebel-Technology-AC-DC/4UDA

-- Traxam
Is this an AC-DC build by you?

FYI: https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards-and-Pianos/Rebel-Technology-AC-DC/4UDA

Currently please only offer gear which has a detail page.

I would like to create a rack dedicated to audio processing, the protagonists of the system are qu bit Nebulae, Data Bender and Mojave and make noise Mimeophon, I have no doubts about these modules but I would like to ask what you would add to support them.
- The milky way is the only replaceable one among the fx, I would mainly use it as a reverb or distortion;
- Varigate and Clep Diaz can be replaceable by other modulation sources;
- I would like to use this system with external hardware synthesizers (Prophet, microfreak, Minitaur) so it is not essential to keep the 921 and Surface oscillators in the rack.
Only black modules please!

Morphagene and Mojave are too much in just 60hp

Check out 2hp Slice or Freez for glitches

OCHD is a great module, but Pam's makes it somewhat redundant in the limited space

If I were to design a starter system it would be (in order of priority): Keystep or Beatstep + Plaits + Audio I/O (if you don't already have a mixer) + Pam's + FX Aid + Maths + VCA

EDITED Nov 23rd 2023, 04:56

Older post, but I've tweaked a lot and I think it's now in a good place, just wondering if there's anything glaringly obvious, and I had a question. Just clarifying again, I want textured very glitchy music, and I realize fully accomplishing what I'm thinking with a rack this size won't be possible but I think with some other hardware I can probably get close.

I just discovered the Qu-Bit Data Bender which is something else I think would be great for what I'm trying, and I'm wondering if since the Morphagene is really the only sound source, is having the Mojave somewhat redundant? I really like the module and I know I'll end up with it at some point, I'm just not sure I'd see huge benefits from it with the limited size, in the meantime would Data Bender be a better option?

It would be more of a hassle, but I also have a 124hp rail I can probably cut down to 84 or so hp, and construct a case for that and fit them both. Kind of a disorganized post, sorry, but any advice would be great.
Edit:(Might just take a second to update, but for me the link preview is showing an older version of the rack, as a heads up)

EDITED Nov 23rd 2023, 01:43

I have had terrific results with Piston Honda Mk3 for dark drones. I like it much more than the wavetable programs in Braids or Plaits. Here is an example of PH3: https://soundcloud.com/user-96050270-927253247

Can anyone suggest a good VCO to pair it with OPERAT from patching panda?
What are you experiences with it?

These are candidates I have right now:

ONA - nano modules
ENSEMBLE OSC - 4ms
SPHERICAL WAVETABLE NAVIGATOR - 4ms
OSIRIS - modbap
PLAITS
RINGS
BIA

Very Cool. If you do get it, make sure to update to the latest firmware--it's an easy drag and drop from the computer--because they keep adding new FX and your unit might not be right up to date. : )

Happy patching!

Check out a Multi-FX module.

Detroit Modular has the ALM MFX. (B-stock & Black Friday sale for discounts). It will fit in the remaining space you have and it suits your techno style. The echo, reverb, ensemble, and phaser effects would really liven up that beehive. I think you'd like it.

-- Toccata

Not a bad idea! It's too bad I can't put in a discount on that b stock but I do have some credit saved up. It would also fill this case until I get off my butt and into the shop and build a case! I also like that it has a few utilities built into it.

I kind of had my eye on the 2hp verb but I think the options on this will be better/more flexible in the long run for not much more money.

I have it in my cart for now. Thanks!

A comparator and a vca (and perhaps a buffered mult) will get you there. ladik makes a great comparator which allows you to set a threshold manually, and sends various gates depending on the relationship of the threshold and input voltages.

In your example, route the cutoff cv thru a vca that will be opened by the 'greater than' gate output of the comparator.

There is a utility module from Xaoc called Samara, the scan mode will switch through three inputs when a fourth signal crosses the threshold (-1 to +1, +1 to +3, +3 above). But it sounds like you want to multiply a signal and invert one copy so your two destinations mirror one another. In which case, look into Invert, Polarizer, Offset modules and if you only need on/off (0% to 100%) see Gate Logic like NOT.

Check out a Multi-FX module.

Detroit Modular has the ALM MFX. (B-stock & Black Friday sale for discounts). It will fit in the remaining space you have and it suits your techno style. The echo, reverb, ensemble, and phaser effects would really liven up that beehive. I think you'd like it.

Hard to explain, but I'm looking for a module that can take an incoming CV signal and split it at a threshold, essentially making it two CV signals where the second doesn't send anything until the threshold is met. For instance lets say i have a single source and want to control two values, like decay time and filter cutoff, so when the input CV hits 50% it has opened the decay to 100% with the cutoff still at 0% and at 100% it has the decay at 100% and the cutoff at 100%.

Does such a thing exist?

I use various sound sources, three of which seem well suited to dark ambient/drone: Loquelic Iteritas Percido, Polygogo, Morphagene. And I agree with @lucas303’s suggestion: a matrix mixer would really be recommended for your work.

Okay so... My goals are to get a bit more toward the generative music side of things. I have been goofing around with different instruments for most of my life. I picked up a korg minilogue xd a few years back but it just never scratched the itch... I think its mostly because I found it overwelming everything it could do if I am being honest. I still have it and play around with it and plan to work it into my music.

Okay so I start looking into videos and whatnot to see if I can brush up on my music theory to help my son out and I stumble upon the rabbit hole of modular synthasis... We jump in the car and head to detroit modular and I come home with some stuff :-D. Went back the next day and swapped it out and come home with the nifty case, beehive, A-106-5 filter and 4ms EnvVCA and a korg SQ-1. Something to keep it super simple... It was a blast. I accidently made a frog sound and it inspired me and I recorded this Then I run into a rabbit hole and discover the Pachinko. I picked up a few more modules and think oh I need a Tukra for some drums...

And this is what I end up with:

I also have a Keystep Pro on the way for a more complex sequencer. But add it all up and the budget is shot ;-). This winter I am going to build a nice case for a bit more room. Shove in a few 2hp and you dont have much room to twiddle with ;-). I am happy for now and have a lot of room to grow with what I have BUT I want to start researching now to see what else I should be adding to get a good generative setup going. What might I be mising now that would be useful?

EDIT:
I am trying to stay a little more on the DAW less side. I am a software developer and get tired of staring at a computer all day... I also gooff with logic pro a bit...

EDITED Nov 21st 2023, 21:07

A locking feedback delay based on the Princeton tech delay/echo chip.
A very good build, not too easy, not too hard. And a great sounding unit, I will be abusing the heck out of this one.

Would be a perfect first eurorack kit!

Build

I make similar music to what you're talking about and what really unlocked the power of all my other modules the most was a matrix mixer. I have the Doepfer A-138m, but there are also stereo matrix mixers out there if you need that. I highly recommend a matrix mixer, especially for this kind of music. It's one of those things that's hard to fully appreciate the importance of until you start using it, and then it just opens up so many possibilities. I find it important enough that if for some reason I had to start over again from scratch, I'd plan everything around the matrix mixer.

Regarding the sound in that video, you could potentially get similar sorts of sounds through some feedback patching (which a matrix mixer also excels at).

A bit of an oddball suggestion, maybe, but the Lyra8-FX could be exactly what you're looking for (particularly when combined with a sampler/looper):

EDITED Nov 21st 2023, 15:53