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hahaha I use an old notebook!!

@Jim with the ST Mix, Doepfer VC Mix, the Matrix mixer and the Planar that should be enough 🤣
-- finnglink

probably... only you'll be able to tell!

And it's not like consoles are always going to work perfectly anyway. Back in the early 1990s and before, channel leakage is something that you had to watch out for, and it wasn't "NO leakage" back then, but "manageable leakage". I recall reviewing a Studiomaster Diamond 163 back in 1997 that had some very obvious leakage on high-level signals, and that was the sole flaw...otherwise, it was a killer little live desk.
-- Lugia

and even when recording bands in high end studios - there was always leakage on the microphones...
it's not the end of the world - & that's just what's supposed to be on the tape - there are many famous songs where there's an aeroplane flying over or a car driving by... big deal...

there's a bit but as you can use the vcas on the mono channels it only really affects the stereo channels - & at least for me it's only really present on the returns - so you could just turn the sends down before muting...

-- JimHowell1970

And it's not like consoles are always going to work perfectly anyway. Back in the early 1990s and before, channel leakage is something that you had to watch out for, and it wasn't "NO leakage" back then, but "manageable leakage". I recall reviewing a Studiomaster Diamond 163 back in 1997 that had some very obvious leakage on high-level signals, and that was the sole flaw...otherwise, it was a killer little live desk.

It needed a name and this is what came up in my head when Soundcloud asked me. I've had to build in a couple of breaks in my one-track-per-day project for various reasons in June. This is the last track before my most recent break. Let me know what you think!

Or you could add two signals to one L/R pair and have them use the same level control. So two 4 channel mono mixers with shared controls. Never thought of that.

@Jim with the ST Mix, Doepfer VC Mix, the Matrix mixer and the Planar that should be enough 🤣

EDITED Jun 29th 2022, 21:32

STMix can function as two mono mixers if you dummy the R inputs of the left inputs you want to mix separately from the rights.
It will create two distinct outputs to L and R outs.
L1 X
_ R2
_ R3
L4 X
L1 and L4 go to Lout, R2 and R3 to Rout. You can add the Aux unattenuated to either.
It’s a bit of a workaround but my point is you get a lot of bang for your buck with this module in a very small space (6hp).

the only thing about the tex mix is that i heard there is some bleed through with the mutes

-- Broken-Form

there's a bit but as you can use the vcas on the mono channels it only really affects the stereo channels - & at least for me it's only really present on the returns - so you could just turn the sends down before muting...

I use a high temperature silicone rubber soldering helper from Austin Ribbon Mics to support my soldering.
However, I’ve read some comments that people would like to use this, but A.R.M. does not ship to their country.

Well, how about making one? I bought some silicone rubber from Amazon and built my own.

Pretty simple, pretty messy, and in the end pretty useful.
If you can’t buy one, or if you just want to make a custom one for yourself, here’s the process.
(Making it)[]

I've got a tex-mix & really like it - inexpensive, DIY able (panel furniture & headers only) and very good for the price - and the douts are a great idea - saves stackcables for other things!
-- JimHowell1970

the only thing about the tex mix is that i heard there is some bleed through with the mutes

I've got a tex-mix & really like it - inexpensive, DIY able (panel furniture & headers only) and very good for the price - and the douts are a great idea - saves stackcables for other things!

to bad it dont have direct outs,so you can multi track record into DAW(like on the D.O.MIXX)
-- Broken-Form

stackcables?
-- JimHowell1970

ahh yes,didnt think of that,been thinking about changing my D.OMIXX for this or the Tex mix

is it possible to limit people from re-listing the same module multiple times? there are 2 people abusing the system and re-listing black panel erbe-verb multiple times, almost every day.

to bad it dont have direct outs,so you can multi track record into DAW(like on the D.O.MIXX)
-- Broken-Form

stackcables?

to bad it dont have direct outs,so you can multi track record into DAW(like on the D.O.MIXX)

A very good multiple from Synthrotek, the MST ’07 buffered multiple.
Pretty straightforward build, and pretty quick.
And the results are just what I wanted, a very accurate reproduction of the input wave. Even better, one input can be echoed out 14 outs, or a number of combinations of ins/outs, making it very useful
Recommended.

Build

personally I'd go for 2 smaller mono mixers - more versatile for cv - & cram a matrix mixer in too

I've thrown the ST Mix back in. I've never did much CV mixing, maybe I should :D
The Raiju had to go, but that isn't even available yet, so not that painful.

Could you list what all the possible input assignments are ? thanks!

I was looking for a Multi Delay for quite a long and it’s in my rack now. There’s a lot to learn with it like the Bark. Here it’s making all the organic noises with the Bark association and it’s animating the HO drone. So here’s my first test with it :

great! thanks for clarifying :)

Does this module track 1V/o? Can’t find any contact info for the manufacturer.
-- adore1096

Yes it does, -5V to 5V on the sustain/frequency CV input ! Oh man I should really work on my description-making skills :)

Does this module track 1V/o? Can’t find any contact info for the manufacturer.

Befaco STMix is DC coupled. It will mix CV as well as mono and/or stereo audio. Mono input on left channel is copied to right. Best bang-for-the-buck in mixers at four stereo channels and a fifth aux-in.

@JimHowell1970

You're right, kinda. I had a Befaco STMix in there, but I removed that, because there is nothing stereo in there. The Planar 2 also functions as a very hands on 4-channel mixer, so looking at the sound sources that should be enough (for me at least).

mixing is not just for audio!!!! get some dc coupled mixing in there for modulation!!!

The midixo is just a dummy, that'll be a 2HP DIYed panel with a TRS jack, as a breakout-module for the Spring Reverb Tank.
-- finnglink

makes a bit more sense...

@JimHowell1970

You're right, kinda. I had a Befaco STMix in there, but I removed that, because there is nothing stereo in there. The Planar 2 also functions as a very hands on 4-channel mixer, so looking at the sound sources that should be enough (for me at least).

The midixo is just a dummy, that'll be a 2HP DIYed panel with a TRS jack, as a breakout-module for the Spring Reverb Tank.

there doesn't appear to be enough mixing to me - I'd want more than the matrix mixer (good call btw) and a single doepfer quad vca...

what's the midixo connected to? I don't either an expert sleepers midi capable module or any other midi module in the rack? seems superfluous to me!

Hi everybody,

I've built this module and it's wonderfull.
Through hole componants easy to find.
Not calibrated yet but if makes marvelous noises.
The chaos section is a great idea.
Love it.

For Gargield, it needs 5v.
Add it to your list.

Many thanks to Rubben to create this.

Im looking for some thoughts of y'all.
I went into modular the wrong way and am now sitting here with a ton of modules that are not fun or just don't make sense. So I'm slowly starting to conceptualize a new rack, with a few modules I already have and some others, that make more sense.

This isn't supposed to be a full synth voice + sequencer or a techno drum machine, more an interactive yet abstract effects and sound machine. I took some inspiration from Hainbachs Test-Equipment Modular and paired it with some of my own ideas.

I'll be doing a lot of pinging, feedbacking and processing of external signals (Synths, Voice, etc.). While I have some "lo-fi-ish" effects on board, I will be using outboard gear and software for effects, compression, eq and mastering.

I just want to hear what you think. Am I missing something essential? Would you give this rack a play?

*That TRS 2HP thingy on the right is supposed to be a breakout module for the spring reverb, so I can mount the tank on the outside. I'll diy that.

EDITED Jun 28th 2022, 13:44

Unrelated to the actual rack but what does 'milkless' mean? 🙂
-- aardvark_se

It's part of the initiative to get the Modular Cat to go away. If you don't feed it, maybe it'll leave...?

Oh, yeah...and there's loads of potential sidecar-type racks out there, so find one that fits. Plus, since that Alesis uses the typical mono-send/stereo-return setup you find in small mixers, you can snag a couple of FX processors in that format to go in there as well. In fact, one of those has been a fave of mine since the mid-1980s: the Yamaha SPX90. Not only is it versatile and stoopid-easy to program, it's the source for a LOT of electronic music FX over the years. The most famous example might be Brian Eno's "Thursday Afternoon" reverb, as the SPX90 can do that 70-second reverb time at the push of a button or three. Plus, outboard gear has gotten crazy-cheap due to everyone being all hot 'n' bothered about FX being "in the box", so take advantage of that if you're able.

I think I understand what do you mean so I'll try to look for alternatives...any suggestion is welcome!
-- DaviG

If you can find one used (and that's a BIG "if"), grab that over the clones. Most Mutable clones have their already-tiny controls jammed into a similarly-tiny space, so that would be a "nope" there.

Actually, check the Klavis Twin Waves mkii. Wavetable architecture similar to Plaits/Braids, but you get TWO oscillators...with quantizing to boot...in each module. And at 8 hp, you can drop TWO in where the Brains is currently. Four VCOs? Hellz yeah!

More expensive, but you get your value for the $$$ there.

+1 for the idea of a way of differentiating modules already owned within a rack from those under consideration for future. This would be terrific if it can be implemented.

Euclidean Circles is for DFAM, witch is standalone.

Unrelated to the actual rack but what does 'milkless' mean? 🙂
-- aardvark_se

Some cases are lactose intolerant. Very important to verify before you buy.

(No, the site just assigns a random silly name to all new racks... you can change them if you want, and OP didn't.)

Unrelated to the actual rack but what does 'milkless' mean? 🙂

Discovering any Bugs? Post here!
-- modulargrid

Yeah Hi,

Just an annoyance really when trying to share a screenshot to Facebook it posts an older version of my rack. Same applies when using the copy link function.

Using the Acidrain Chainsaw going two ways, and some samples from a Prok-turned Radio Music. I was meaning to change the chords with the QuantGemi from NoiseEngineering but completely forgot. Arpeggio from 2hp ARP, which was split to 3 octaves which I didn't end up playing.

Thanks for listening.

hello community,
I've received a fantastic modular mixer from Feedback Modules, in the nae of MIX BX. It's an excellent mixer, so much that it has instantly joined my "Keepers" serie, in this episode 7th, we don't talk, and we see how "versatile" this amazing module can be.

That looks like quite an interesting idea actually. I could possibly make space for a rack on the side so I should look into it more.
Thanks again!

I'll echo what Jim's saying, but also I'd like to point out that the oscillator that's in this build is part of why Mutable's gone now.

Don't give Uli your money when he misbehaves. Like this. It's sort of like training a dog: praise and reward for good behavior.
-- Lugia

Thanks Lugia!
I think I understand what do you mean so I'll try to look for alternatives...any suggestion is welcome!

is the case intellijel? looks like it to me - in which case yes the intellijel 1u tiles are designed to work with their cases... it's part of the sales strategy - buy our cases, fill them with our modules...

-- JimHowell1970

Yeah, you know the drill... I really wish Intellijel hadn't done that; there's a lot of Pulplogic-format tiles that would make an AWESOME pairing with certain Intellijel tiles...but you can't do that without a PL-format row or some other bracket scheme.

And yes, the input and output mixer tiles feed to/from the 1/4" jacks on the 7U cab. They've got backplane connections that everything matches up to.

EDITED Jun 26th 2022, 01:10

Gates on the BSP go to the trigger inputs, yes. Plus, since the Zadar deals with gates by only responding to the initial rise, you can also use LFOs that have a sharp leading edge on their output waveform to trigger the Zadar. Useful!

I'll echo what Jim's saying, but also I'd like to point out that the oscillator that's in this build is part of why Mutable's gone now.

Don't give Uli your money when he misbehaves. Like this. It's sort of like training a dog: praise and reward for good behavior.

Now, who said the mixer had to go on the desk? Check this: https://reverb.com/item/56181294-alesis-multimix-12r-rackmount-12-channel-mixer

Mine's immediately behind me...and it's the dedicated mixer for the lab gear setup. The nice thing about that sort of thing is that you can get a rack case, put this in, put MORE stuff in with it, and now you've got a rack for FX and mixing. Just put it on a stand (like a chair, even) next to you, and save the desk space.

There are lots of suggestions for modulation modules in a recent thread on Modwiggler: https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=263375

Thank you very much for helping! I made some change according to your advice. May I ask is there any alternative module for the VCF you recommended? It’s a little bit hard to find in UK, Thanks.

there are 1200+ alternative filters... take a look and pick one with similar characteristics (and maybe check back here based on your selection) or just order one off reverb - it'll arrive, eventually... buying modules unseen from far flung places and waiting and hoping they arrive is part of the thrill of modular...

By the way I have a monome Norns is there a way to interstate it into this system?

I had to look up the monome norns, but then 15 seconds reading the module spec hinted that it may be possible using usb - you will have to read the norns and case specs carefully to see if they will connect - ie whether the case is recognized as a midi device or not - I suspect it is but my suspicions are no substitute for RTFM

And is the 1u mix module capable of connecting the case output? Thanks again.

is the case intellijel? looks like it to me - in which case yes the intellijel 1u tiles are designed to work with their cases... it's part of the sales strategy - buy our cases, fill them with our modules...