AKG K371. I love them. I had seen some good reviews and found a fair deal on them. I needed something to replace a well worn pair of Sennheiser HD280 that I was accustomed to for years. The AKGs are so much more accurate. I'll probably stick with them going forward.
Sony MDR-7506 headphones are my primary headphones when recording and checking mixes, but I also use a cheap pair of Creative HQ-1450 headphones as well, the idea being that they're closer to what the average person is likely to be listening on.
Nice setup. Lots of wiggling opportunities here... With on the fly field recordings... I imagine it becomes pretty awesome. Enjoy the trip.
Wow thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my post. For some musical background I was a vinyl turntablist for many years. i moved to a new space and didn't have room for my equipment for many years, now I have room again. I am just happy to be on the path of making music again. One of my friends has a modular setup and it really caught my interest. I am aware that easier more efficient ways to make hip hop are out there. I just am super excited to learn something new and different. I am fairly committed to going down the modular path.
So it sounds like I was a bit filter heavy for the HP. The case is filling up fast. I might need to do a slightly larger case for the long run. Maybe a 9u 84hp or even 104hp. My goal is to have a system that I can take with my and play my music. I have my eye on a case from Case from Lake.
I took some of your suggestions and did an updated case
part of me thinks I should start very small so that I can learn my modules and figure out what I need
something like this
I think in the long run having Morphagene or one of the competitors makes a lot of sense to me.
I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Just curious. I've always been a big fan of sennheiser (crisp mids, solid lows, little fatigue on long sessions.. For me at least) and prefer over the ear cans... Although recently I've been using some pretty respectable pods... But... What are you using and why?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-victor-alpha-2 (recommended) is my output so... Bluetooth works as well.
Hey, good luck with the journey. It's fun, and the rabbit hole of searching for interesting modules is addictive.
Out of curiosity, how are you planning to use modular in your music? If you just want to build a sequence and have drums, it's way cheaper to go the route of drum machines and sequencers. Sound mangling is cool, but again, probably cheaper off rack. Of course they can't do what modular does, but you could buy a lot of instruments for the price of a full rack that can do many of the same functions as modular.
That out of the way, two things jump out at me about your racks:
1) VCOs and VCFs combine for 56 hp of space for just two independent voices. That's a whole lot of real estate for a case that's only 104hp. As cool as those oscillators are, maybe find smaller versions, or dual oscillators or filters? If you like Instruo, their Ts-L has a voltage controlled wavefolder and is only 6hp. Klavis Twin Waves Mk II is huge sounding in 8 hp, and itself is a dual VCO. If you want to keep it analogue, Make Noise has STO. Shakmat Modular's Dual Dagger is a dual VCF in 6 hp. Right there you have 2 to 3 independent voices in 16-18 hp. That gives you a lot of space back to work with. Particularly, since you'll want to use it for....
2) Utilities. You need more utilities, in particular for clocking and triggering. Yes, you have a monster sequencer, but adding something like a Pam's would give you a lot more options and flexibility. Things like clock divider or multipliers will give you access to a lot more rhythmic options. Logic modules allow for more interesting combinations and trigger sequencers. I see you're planning on getting the Compare 2, which has some logic built in. Great module. Personally, I LOVE sample/track and hold, and they are super cool to use as modulators, and can be used to build melodies from the LFOs you have (which, you could also get more of).
Utilities are useful because they are just so damn versatile. For example, how about more attenuators or attenuverters to subtly affect signals, or even invert them? Or, another example of the utility of utilities, you could build a step sequencer with just a clock, a sequential switch and a matrix mixer, and suddenly with three utility modules you have a sequence. Add something that can quantize, and suddenly you have a melody you can control with a mixer, all from utilities and a clock. Routing is important too. Spreading that signal around with Link 2 is great (personally I love Joranalogue), but how about adding Doepfer's Switch Multiple that gives you mults and the ability to route signals. Joranalogue just announced a new routing module that looks sick, so maybe think about that, too.
Anyways, I'm sure someone with more experience can give you more focused advice specific to hip hop, but my general thoughts are stay away from big sound making modules, and stick close to the smaller, cheaper, utilities.
Good luck!
Hello all,
I am just now planning my first eurorack system. I am hoping for a bit of advice. Currently I own two modules Stolperbeats and a modbap trinity. I am planning to mainly make hip hop with this setup. I have not purchased a case yet but, I think it makes sense to start with a 6u 104hp case. I plan to only fill it about half way to start, so as I learn more I can make more informed purchases. Any and all suggestions are welcome, I just want to know if I am on the right track. Do I have enough utilities? And glaring omissions?
I will try to post a link to my current planned start and then a link to where I see it possibly ending up.
Thank you for any help with this!
here is the starter
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2247500.jpg
and here is where I think i could end up
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2251497.jpg
Nice :)
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
High quality delay. Freshly baked, and placed in a boxe designed to keep the audio signal safe and warm... Nessun problema, signore!
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks
Lately I am using either my 7u or 4u portable rack that has a sequencer, utilities, drum voice, fx and so forth with my Roland SP 404 MK2. Loads of fun to sample the modular and replay warped with the tools of the Roland 404 SP MK2 and still a light rig. I had great results using my TX-6 mixer/recorder for the travel setup and as a bonus can even record live jams easily.
Beware:
is not shipping my module or returning the money I sent.
He is is not responding to questions.
But he is updating his inventory.
Better stay away.
-- Pegnitzsurfer
Hi
I think you have mistaken the thread. this is the one of good traders.
Beware:
is not shipping my module or returning the money I sent.
He is is not responding to questions.
But he is updating his inventory.
Better stay away.
Hi,
IMHO.
I'm far from a fan of B, but I think it's difficult today to launch a mixer module and be innovative and groundbreaking. A mixer, with faders, pan potentiometers, and mutes, doesn't give much room for innovation.
In this case, at least they have added the SOLO function. In my opinion, a very good feature.
I think this case is quite different from Abacus or Brains.
Thanks for the insight.
np
Can you elaborate a bit on "very synthesis with modules, as opposed to modular synthesis"?
what I mean by that is using fewer more complex multi-function modules - often things like full voices or things like zoia where the modules could be seen as complete synthesizers in their own right and to some extent this can tend towards being the antithesis of modular synthesis - ie someone else's idea of a synth (synthesis with modules) compared to more simple functional building block modules (modular synthesis) - there's no right answer - most people are somewhere in the middle, including me, but I prefer closer to modular synthesis, myself
What are some of your favorites?
matrix mixers, clock dividers, logic, switches
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
Basically the Make Noise Tape and Microsound Music Machine with some swaps, bells, and whistles drawn from my module library. Idea is to make something travelworthy without buying anything new. I plan on hauling this thing along on a road trip into the mountains and making music with field recordings and whatever samples I can save onto my phone. If you're reading this, I hope it inspires you or helps settle your mind on whatever decision you're trying to make. I've been playing with this specific arrangement of modules for a bit now and I'm happy with them so far. Cheers!
VOLCA DRUM (40hp)- dentro de la case (arriba a la derecha) con esto tengo mi maquina de caos, (como una dfam) ajustable en directo y creando fx... quizás la paso por un pico dsp --> pico mix --> pico input2--> filtro --> circuit
VOZ: va a pico input --> fx aid --> circuit (para más fx y volumen)
SH. está en la case, sale su entrada para pico mix--> pico input2 --> filtro --> circuit para un poco de fx
PICO MIX. entran volca drum (que ha pasado por pico dsp) y entra SH. Ambas van --> pico input2 --> filtro --> circuit (para un poco más de fx)
CIRCUIT: saca uno de sus canales para kinematic, para conseguir punch en el bombo
Se alimenta con el de Eowave mini case...
A parte llevo otro SYNTH, que podría ser yamaha dx, o el korg monologue (podría ir a filtro, podría ir a circuit (para fx) en vez de la voz...)
Hey everyone! Over the last year, my interest in Eurorack has very much changed from preferring unopinionated designs to being much more inspired by the opposite.
With unopinionated designs, I refer to modules that perform their function 'to spec' with the parameters you'd expect to have available (Think Doepfer).
With opinionated designs, I refer to modules where the functionality follows a certain vision of the designer, maybe hiding some parameters, focusing heavily on a subset, or even exposing parameters that you would never consider for that type of module (Think Make Noise).
With that said, I wanted to ask: What are your favorite opinionated modules? What modules change the way you approach your system?
Thanks for the insight.
Can you elaborate a bit on "very synthesis with modules, as opposed to modular synthesis"?
Well, remember that i do use the utilities in the matriarch in conjunction with this. That being said, I can see what you mean. When designing ZOIA patches, I always use a ton of utility.
What are some of your favorites?
Worth it... Super useful and fun when paired with a mic or other signals.
Book... Is not too bad... Kinda nice to have a hardcopy of something around the hobby that you can hand to friends when they ask "what's that thing blinking over there and where is that noise coming from?"
It would pair nicely with 4 Pints of Beer and a Kebab ;-)
I'd personally say get a good Reverb, I find the Mimeophon's reverb to be a bit Flanger/Phaser-like its just not as clean as it should be.
I've been hankering after a Happy Nerding FX Aid for a while, though the new Error Instruments / TINRS 'Rabbit Hole' looks interesting for some freaky weirdness. Clouds for Reverb is always pretty lush.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
for me:
very synthesis with modules, as opposed to modular synthesis
too many sequencers - even if 2 are 'random' - I'd probably lose 1 or add another case
not enough utility modules - these massively increase the patching possibilities in the rack
might be worth spending some time thinking about the contents of my signature
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
Hi,
I need some advice on what to pair with my Mimeophon in order to get an effect chain as good as possible.
No need to suggest any specific modules (if you dont't want to). I want/need eihter a reverb or a delay to kind of choose direction since the Mimeo does both in a way. So what would you say is the best fit?
Two specific modules i'm considering is echophon or erbe-verb.
Hi,
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2221796.jpg
Got some new modules coming in. Using this next to my Matriarch most of the time. So I do have a great filter and some extra modulations, attenuverters, oscillators etc available pretty close by.
The uo_c just bumped my Doepfer A-119 out, my mantis case filled quicker than i expected. I realise i have a lot of sequencers, but they all bring something different to the table, so at least right now i'm not quite ready to get rid of any of them.
A-119 is my envelope follower from guitar. I will experiement with doing that from my ZOIA and then routing that either via its CTRL out or midi through hermod.
I fell in love with the rainmaker in videos. So it's on the way and I hope it's as cool as i expect. If it is, it'll be worth the HP.
What do you think? Any obvious idiocy going on here?
Do have it. It does very well if you need AD envelopes, and you can also individually gate each one. The inverters are always useful. I personally have it downstream from a clock (Hermod) that then goes into a sequencer (Popcorn) and I use two slopes for voices and the other two to modulate things at half the speed with the built in clock divider. You can also break the normalling of the LFO as the clock and manually step through the divisions as a per-step set of rising and falling LFOs like a Stages.
-- DrFrunkensteen
Thanks for your answer!
Do have it. It does very well if you need AD envelopes, and you can also individually gate each one. The inverters are always useful. I personally have it downstream from a clock (Hermod) that then goes into a sequencer (Popcorn) and I use two slopes for voices and the other two to modulate things at half the speed with the built in clock divider. You can also break the normalling of the LFO as the clock and manually step through the divisions as a per-step set of rising and falling LFOs like a Stages.
Same question here, is it possible/can you make that possible to rotate 90° and put modules into the 1u adapter?
would be great!
Hi,
I've searched other threads and haven't found anything.
Does anyone have experience with this ST MODULAR module?
I'm looking for a multiple EG and I've come across this module, which apart from 4 EGs with modifiable shapes through internal LFO, also has an internal clock with dividers to be able to trigger the different AR's by itself.
I am surprised by all this functionality for such an affordable module (assembled by a professional it costs around €150)
I would appreciate your comments.
Ferran.
Note: I kow it, I have published this same thing in modwiggler, but hey, just in case someone here does not visit that page....
Thanks!
Oh hi.
Maybe it's a bit nitpicky but it would be great if you can stack 1u in 3u space. I have the Xodes 1u to 3u format changer so would like to arrange my modules in a way that better reflects my rack.
Will never purchase their products, never have.
The sentiment in this particular case seems strong among (some) users. If regulatory measures will not be tried, we probably need to submit to the crowd.
Stipulating a code of conduct for forum and product entries just seem like a reasonable thing to do. There are probably wise ideas among experienced forum users on how to achieve this.
Since almost module entries are "crowdsourced" by users, that's not really something that can be regulated. I doubt B will get a manufacturer's account here to control their module entries either. The controversy makes $ales.
Leave the module entry as it is, and discuss the company's ethics, business practices and design theft in the forum comments. Leave it up to people to determine if they want to support Behringer's behavior or not based on what they read and observe.
The best thing to do is NOT give them free advertisement, and support the original small manufacturers with your purchases. I know I will never purchase their products ever again, that's for sure.
If forum users have rules to follow, what requirements should we place on manufacturers posting their products or designs?
Should Behringer clearly state that their design is a copy of an existing product, I wouldn’t mind.
If ModularGrid admins want to play the ethics card, please think again or support manufacturers’ questionable business ethics.
This is a copy not of MN Maths but the original design by Serge:
Serge Dual Universal Slope Generator
Do not know why the B hate on this as his design has been copies numerous times.
https://richsstudioproject.wpcomstaging.com/product/cgs114-dusg/
-- amj666
Show me where Math is a "1:1 panel design up to every control knob" clone of the DUSG.
It's not about reusing an idea or a concept.
It's about cloning stuff 1:1.
Iagine how cool it would be if behringer came up with their own interpretation, probably a 4x DUSG with some specialties like a wave-folder or anything new, literally ANYTHING other than copying a ready to sell module of a small boutique company that probably sells a few hundred of those per year, sending them to china and throw a few thousend for one third opf the price on the market.
If you don't see where the problem is i hope if you should ever start a project by yourself that this doesn't happen to you.
And then people start to cry that Mutable Instruments, a one person company, closed down. lol
in this one video, Skippy and Chord are used to make generative music. With the help of Quadigy, Twin Waves, Tweakers and Aikido.
Behringer is stealing someone elses design, changing 1 or 2 minor things, and then passing it off as their own. Now, substitute "design" for "music" in that last sentence and ask yourself if you're still fine with it.
-- gringostar
false equivalence buddy; music is not electronic design.
everyone that does ED knows this; we copy, enhance, modify, borrow, steal, lie and cheat. that's the way the game is played. did it for 40 years. you clearly haven't done any of it. designers get paid, great designers get paid greatly. they got theirs, they don't need people like you to make a conspiracy out of it.
However, if you have to copy music, you really have no talent. music comes from inside. ED you learn by copying every that came before you.
I have more ALM hahah I really like them obviously.. the pip slope is great on the repeat mode
This is a copy not of MN Maths but the original design by Serge:
Serge Dual Universal Slope Generator
Do not know why the B hate on this as his design has been copies numerous times.
https://richsstudioproject.wpcomstaging.com/product/cgs114-dusg/
Kind of an ALM fetish you've got going on there haha.
I was going to sell one of my PipSlope's but I've just started using it as an LFO on looping mode.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Hi,
first iteration of my rack is ready now, lots of fun to play with (all MI modules except for Beads are clones from Tunefish Modular):
Thinking about what I would like to add in the mid-term I am thinking about this:
For the last gaps left, I am thinking of a quad or octa VCA (Doepfer or another Veils) and a small multi-effect unit like the FX AID or Pico DSP.
Any feedback / comments?
Finally think it’s complete just waiting for a third pip slope .. it’s sounding good I think
-CIRCUIT:
manda un canal al pedal griego (que está en la case)
manda midi a SH
-KINEMATIC:
está en la case, mide 28hp (puesto de lado)
-VOZ:
va a pico input-->fx aid--> circuit (para delay) sale por los 2 canales de circuit
-DX (o korg monologue)
-SH:
está fuera de la case
dx manda su audio a sh (aux in) y de aquí sale para-->pico input2--> filtro--> vuelve a entrar a circuit (le damos un poco de reverb) y sale por el canal limpio de circuit
-DFAM
su fx: pico dsp
su triger: o bien ladik o malekko
-Maleko:
podría trigar dfam, lfo para dfm, lfo para el filtro
-kINEMATIC:
si no cabe en la case, por culpa de maleko, se puede poner pico input, debajo de la case (debajo de dfam, p.ej.)
I'll make changes as I find deals, otherwise, I'm aiming for this.
Lots of food for thought there. Appreciate the input!
-- FUNKEDub
My pleasure, glad it was of some help! Enjoy the rack, it looks like fun!
