Thanks everyone! This is super useful. I updated with a Disting mk4. I was hesitant trying to avoid digital modules but I gave in after the recommendations of finding something with effects and more patch points. Sounds like it will go with my Mother 32 fine.

Hi all,

I recently picked up a "Mob of Emus" - and dang is it fun! I'll have to do some deep diving into this device as it has a wide range of sonic goodness!

Here is a link to a quick jam I was doing today to try out the new modules:
=user-674000789/sets/modular-jams

I added in a Vox Digitalis so I could have a simpler sequencer - really liking it so far, easy to use.
As note above: I'm trying out the Mob Of Emus and i'm digging it so far.

Patch Note:
1) main riff is the Mob of Emus sequenced from the Circles, notes from the Vox Digi and running through the ms22
2) Bass-ish part is the Mantis (I really love this going through the C4BON)
3) Kick is the BIA
4) Hats are from the QD
5) FXs are from the Happy Nerding FX AID XL, Clouds, and my external Digit Pedal

My next steps are to create some more note sequences, and start hooking up more control with the Catalyst

Hope you enjoy, and please feel free to give any pointers, ideas, and feedback.
It is all greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brett

I'm currently looking into fabricating my own dual or-combiner to go with my muxlicer.

I've made some of those this year, funny enough, also one for my Muxlicer;

It is an open source project, check it out here.

In essence the outs set al negative voltages to zero and only the momentary highest voltage will pass; making it ideal for gate combining.

For some reason the Low Gain Electronics Short Bus has seven inputs, I think that is for creative purposes but I like me eight of 'em.

https://blackwarriorlures.bandcamp.com/album/in-life

Here's a "sister-patch" which I named "an ode to Blixa" (because I can picture Blixa Bargeld of Einstürzende Neubauten doing some vocals for this, in German, of course). Again, all the voices come from the Just Friends. Some more patch details in the video description.
Also, lovers of custom panels may observe three panels made by Chora Panels, all in the top row.

Hey all,

Been playing at this modular game for a few years now, but I'm just a tinkerer. I started with a Pittsburgh Modular SV-1 and Keystep, and it's been downhill since. Do lots of DIY kits and modules to try to keep the price down, but this isn't a hobby to save money on!

I've been toying with the idea of minimal space/maximal usage, and I've built a small case to focus on that. Here is my current "portable case" to encourage me to focus on mastery of a few modules:

I own all these and quite enjoy playing this! I usually run the Ornament and Crime in Quantermain mode with the Turing Machine or Integer Sequencer modes to have some evolving melodies that play themselves. The Voltage Research Lab is ridiculously amazing and versatile, and I'm super happy to have that to give two oscillators, two function generators, two VCF/VCA/LPG, and an analogue delay. Both the Magneto and the Microcell do lots of great ambience inducing effects, and the multiDimension provides some great movement.

My question to you would be what sort of modifications would you make to the rack to extract more varied sound generation, or to extract more out of this limited space. Curious to see your thoughts!

Thanks Garfield,

Yeah that would be great and would love a trip anyway to Germany :-)
I still am patiently waiting for my WMD Metron pre-order for a month now won't do that again. I have the Stillson Hammer in the new MDLR 14u setup that works great for now and Mordax Data for clock/trigger duties and Marbles for random patterns. So all good.

Hi Sacguy71,

Yeah would be lovely to meet you at the Superbooth and showing me your MDLR setup :-)

How is your main sequencer coming along, the... WMD - Metron, right? Did you order it already? Or did you already received it and haven't put a video about it here yet ;-) ?

Kind regards, Garfield.

Ya know as a teacher and engineer I like to take two approaches

1. Mindless patch and noodle- turn knobs, switches, dials and try patching weird stuff see what happens, observer let ears decide
2. Focused study- videos on the module, read manuals over and over again, forums, ask questions, try patch combos

My Youtube channel gets a lot of hate for poor audio quality but hey I am an amateur beginner, not a pro with a million dollar studio with 10k studio monitors in sound proof booths, give me an Fn break guys and gals!!!!

Thanks Garfield,

Yes, the Stillson Hammer has far exceeded my expectations as a superb sequencer with ratcheting, quantizer, random patterns and so much more for the ideal 4 channel sequencer with CV and gate control. I scored a deal on it and it blows away the crappy Varigate 4+. All the Harvestman modules are beyond amazing that Scott Jaeger really is a genius and he has been kind to respond patiently to my emails. Mutable Instruments is another superb modular company as is Rossum the genius behind EMU synthesizers so having all three modules in my MDLR case makes for a killer mobile modular rig if covid ends one day I can fit on carry on airline to Germany for Superbooth! Funny as Harvestman just sends you the module in a plain box no toys and no screws even but they make some of the best coolest digital modules ever. No nonsense just awesome stuff. I think that Scott Jaeger knows this and just sends the goods no fluff just substance.
Rossum is great as well- that Trident is brutal analog madness all kinds of CV options solid tones and Morpheus Z Filter is pure brilliance.

Hi Sacguy71,

Oh beautiful MDLR rack you got there and nice setup! :-)

It looks like the Stillson Hammer is a lot of fun!

Enjoy your new setup, have fun and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Modulargrid,

Thank you very much for the keyboard shortcut option! :-)

Have a good weekend and kind regards, Garfield.

Hey Guys, thanks for your feedback! :))

Went nuts...because I'm GOING nuts in quarantine! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....

OK, now that that's out of my system, I beat on this for a hot minute before lunch, and wound up not only finding how to keep the Queen of Pentacles in the system, I wound up majorly expanding on the original build! Check this out:

Hot damn! OK...this actually does have much of the original in it! But what I did here was to jettison as many of the full sized Mutable modules when possible/practical, and this reclaimed a BIG chunk of space. So, when you got space, you do the logical thing...

First up, I shifted the entire layout so that audio is on top, modulation (and effects) is in the middle, sequencing and mixing and drums and such is now on the bottom, which should also get the umbilicals from the BSP to the endorphin drums out of the way of everything else. Audio row is left to right from sources to VCFs, with the final audio VCAs actually residing in the Toppobrillo Stereomix II at the bottom.

Top row: I added a Konstant Labs 1 hp power monitor (always useful!), then your STOs now have a Pico Ring (with its own sine VCO) between them, hinting that you might want to "unitize" this as an initial voice. It's also got its own submixer there. Next to this, I mashed the original Plaits into TWO Beehives, which ALSO have a very wild waveshaper/crossfolder for THEIR intermod thingamajig. And again, another submixer. In case you've not noticed, these two pairings with their mod circuits and mixers are now a bit more "West Coast-ish" in how they can interact. Telharmonium's in next, then the 10 hp NEW version of Veils provides VCA mixing of all subsections of tone generation before we get into the filtering. And for that, I changed things up a bit.

Filtering in this version is a lot more complex. First up is a very versatile G-Storm multimode VCF (and 2 to 1 submixer) that replicates the Korg Delta's. After that, I dropped in Doepfer's twisted version of the MS-20 Sallen-Key VCF pair. Why twisted? Well, because this thing's got an insert point in the resonance path...so instead of just having it filter things, you can run the filter's audio feedback through something else, such as the nanoRings next to it, a leg of the Polaris, etc. Oh, yeah...the Polaris is now down below this, alongside a Pico DSP which, actually, make a nice pairing since the Polaris has a mono out, and the DSP has a mono in and stereo out. This is important later...

Middle row: buffered mult, right above the MIDI interface. There are definitely enough "destinations" for CVs in this that it's prudent to add one. I got rid of the passive mult, also, because those are still a little bit much for this build size, and you should probably use inline mults or stackcables. Next, I added a noise/random source with an independent S&H/T&H, this all being there to work along with the Marbles. Stages is in next, since it works with clocking, together with the previous two modules as well as the sequencing below. I added four free-run LFOs after this, then the shrinky-dink version of the Tides. This has a Roti Pola next to both of these to allow mixing, attenuation, and polarization of mod signals. After this is another new Veils, the Zadar (which now has its expander), and then a Quadrax for AD, AR envelopes OR looping of these for up to four more LFOs if needed. Next to this are the effects, with one of these also posing as a "global" filter (the Polaris). These are just above the AUX send/return points on the Stereomix 2 for easy patching.

Annnnnnd...the bottom row: MIDI interface stayed the same, then I put in a New Pam's, which makes more sense here than the Tempi, since the Tempi is really at its best when used with the Rene mkii, while Pam's is better in a "mixed bag" timing situation such as this. NerdSEQ and the drums are next, then the Stereomix 2. Now, this thing is a BEAST...four mono inputs with CV over level, pan, and AUX send level, plus mute and cue sends. But the killer thing here is that you also get a mono AUX send and stereo return, allowing you to patch your effects (more than likely, the Pico DSP will stay parked here) and mix them properly. This also has a killer monitor section, with the cue function being great for live patch adjustments. And last, a balanced stereo pair with some nice transformers to add a little warmth if you push 'em a bit.

This SEEMS better. The layout makes far more sense, and should result in less of a snarl on the patch panel. The thing that's really wild, though, is that you now have three "voices" onboard alongside the drums. Pretty beefy, I think...but with a case this size, it really did teeter on the "could I keep that?" line, and I went for it instead of ejecting it. Results seem to have born my suspicions out this time!

I just play, as in like what kids do. I liken it to finger painting, but with sound.

REFERENCES AND LINKS TO CHECK OUT:
• Intellijel Palette case: https://intellijel.com/shop/cases/4u-...
• Arturia MicroFreak: https://www.arturia.com/products/hard...
• Here's the system on ModularGrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/v...
• Many many thanks to the amazing Todd Barton for his inspiration and the resources on his site which I have shamelessly pilfered in this video: https://toddbarton.com/
• You can support Todd's teachings on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/synthtodd
• Here is my bonus research skype chat with Todd (obvs ya gotta be a Patron! Todd also has it on his too): https://www.patreon.com/posts/30310920

WHATS IN THE RACK/BONUS MODULE THOUGHTS/ALTERNATIVES
Someone asked me to list what's in this system and alternatives. Again, here's the system on ModularGrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/v...
SEQUENCER
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/ladik-s...
You really want a sequencer capable of 3, 4 and 5 step sequences and especially gate sequences too, a massive and essential part which I did not have at all (I cheated and used the MicroFreak sequencer). Any sequencer that can do that would do, but Ladik S180 plus one of the S180 family knob expanders would be ideal as they are cheap, and pair them with a Clock Divider for sequencer reset at 3/4/5 step (I love the 4ms Rotating Clock Divider), and you'd be in business. But they are deep and wide collectively. Ladik's S184 uses faders, highly appropriate!
RANDOM VOLTAGE SOURCE
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-no... as it gives randomness with vibe, and much much more.
I think it's worth experimenting with using slow/medium speed LFOs (NOT white noise - too random) fed into Sample and Hold generators in order to create 'randomness with personality' from scratch, something I need to try. Apart from this you should check out the Doepfer A-149-1 and probably the Richter Noisering. Also the Turing Machine, of course! Goes without saying.
ENVELOPE GENERATOR
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alm-bus...
I would absolutely loved to have shoehorned a Make Noise MATHS in there (snappiest envelopes in the business), but any Envelope generator with an Exponential curve to their response is what you're looking for. And a 'gate'/held input as well as a 'trig' input. And CV control of the A & R time!
VCO 1/2
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/feedbac...
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intelli...
Any decent VCO will do. You do need a sine wave output on one, and look at the Easel Panel for which waveforms you also need.
VCA
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intelli...
Any fast, clean VCA will do. The more the merrier of course, since you can use voltages to control the amount of voltage you're feeding to other voltages...
WAVEFOLDER
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/steady-...
There are lots of wavefolders and they all wavefold with a slightly different tone. There's one in the Disting too. But I must say, tonally, the WMD Ultrafold is one of the best I've heard.
MIXER
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/2hp-mix
Any small mixer will do. Mutable Veils is a great one as you get VCAs to boot! Bigger tho.
ATTENUATOR
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intelli...
Abstract Data ADE60 is another good one I own, didn't have enough room for it. You just want one that will output voltages with nothing plugged into the inputs.
LOWPASS GATE
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/future-...
Makenoise Optomix, LxD, Rabid Elephant Natural Gate - or make one from VCA, Lowpass filter and an exponential curve Envelope Generator.
SPRING REVERB
I used: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer...
Intellijel Springray looks nice too. Gotta be a real spring.

Thanks troux, I really love the new setup. Been learning to use the 4ms VCA Matrix mixer and Radar. Quite powerful. Morpheus is great but takes time to learn. Lots of options for thousands of filter combinations. It is very easy to use and the color screen a nice touch. I think of it like the Harvestman/IME Bionic Lester filter on steroids. Not many filters can do 14 poles!

Nice 90s industrial techno vibes @sacguy71, I see you have a Morpheus too. What do you think about it? It looks pretty impressive but I'm not sure I want it just yet 🤔🤔

Really enjoying learning my new MDLR setup with WMD percussion and Hertz Donut

I read and re-read manuals a lot which helps me figure how to use my new modules.

Expertly designed piece @aphew_goodman, love the balance between all the voices and the tension and letting go. Well done!

I like that @merzky_shoom, I'll give it a shot myself.

2. Pick some sort of metaphorical idea and aim for that, e.g. "This song will sound like different types of water coming together, or arid fire, or have a particular feeling."

To add to this, some years ago I fell into a creative rut. Rather than try to force things out as I stood over my equipment, I gathered a bunch of random pictures and artworks, choose one at random, put it in front of me and I would try to create a soundtrack to that single frame.

It helped a lot. In particular, it really helped me begin to stretch small ideas out into full songs. Instead of trying to ensure that each piece is profound, provocative, and cohesive, I got much better at engaging with my musical ideas as they truly are: just ideas, sketches, imperfect snapshots of an imperfect mind's imperfect experience.

Suddenly, trying to compose a piece that aurally conveys the smell of snowfall doesn't seem as stupid and insignificant, because it just playtime in the end, and every experience is valid if any of them are.

Anyways, the point is really that staring at a picture and trying to make a soundtrack to it is a great way to get out of a writers block mindset or to just experiment with different inspirations/impetuses of creation. And I think still images are pretty key here. Mostly because composing a soundtrack to video can imply or strictly dictate the tempo and rhythmic and ornamental elements whereas a still image will force you to consider those elements abstractly and interpret them.

EDITED Dec 10th 2020, 19:47

Hello people of Modular Grid,

I would like your opinion on my rack plan. Is there anything you would change? Have I missed anything important? What would you do with the 2HP left?

I mainly make synthpop and currently use an Elektron Analog Rytm and a Digitone, plus guitar, bass and vocals. I have been interested in modular for a while and I think this winter will be my jump into it. My main goals are to sequence basslines from the digitone and get fat sounds out of the modular, perhaps same for some leads, and to also delve into more ambient and general craziness that I can use for intros/outros.

Thanks for your help!

L

Edit:After a day of thinking about it, I think I would prefer the Cš-L to the DPO, and that would give me enough space for a Disting mk4 too. Thoughts?

EDITED Dec 11th 2020, 13:26

1V oct of oscillator goes to CV out on french connection
CV1 of VCA goes to Button Out on French Connection
Buff Mult clock goes to Arturia clock in

EDITED Dec 10th 2020, 07:08

Hi Gabor,

Oh yes! This is even better than your previous track and that was already a beautiful designed track. This track however is on a totally different scale, (much) better! The tension you got here in this track provides me goosebumps...

What can I say further? I just hope Covid-19 will be over soon and then I hope you can do a concert tour through Europe and don't forget to do a few performances in Germany ;-)

This is proper stuff, thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Only Just Friends thru fx. Details in the video description.

Ok, thanks for the advice.

I've been playing with a 0-coast for more than a year, and with STO+FORBIDDEN PLANET+MATHS+YARNS+DUAL ADSR since June, so I have quiet an idea of what I like and what I want - for example I really like Contour, reason why I want it in this rack. I also need powerful simple sounds for my work as a composer - STO is great for that part - and in another way I love random things, reason why I'm trying to have both in the same synth.

I spent time reading all the manuals - especially the one about 0-coast and the one about Maths.

Now I'd really like to go for a full system, but still I don't think I know all the modules enough to be totally sure that the systems works well...

Looks like it should work fine after applying tweaks Moanerette suggested.

EDITED Dec 10th 2020, 09:51

plaits before maths I guess is because this will add a second voice that can be integrated with the mom easily and will add a lot of versatility in that regard in one go

maths second though - it's a great module for learning modular synthesis - possibly the best, due to the illustrated manual that is available online - working your way through that a few times is an excellent learning exercise

another thing to consider might be - put the money the module swap would cost you in a jar and every time you buy a module put it's rack rent (modules hp * cost of 1hp of rack) in that jar too

when your rack becomes full, you will probably have enough in the jar to buy the next rack

this is the way to go if you like ergonomics instead of trying to cram as much as possible in as small a space as possible

Just start with the minimum you think you can work with

a sound source
a sound modifier
a modulation source
a way to play (midi interface)
a way to listen

and then play with it for a month or so - your patching will lead you to know what you need - rather than want what you think

Maths is really good as the modulation source - see the illustrated manual - working your way through that a few times is a great learning exercise

Hi everyone,
after many changes, I came with this :

=> image is wrong, you can see the final version by clicking.

Before I begin buying / trying anything, I have this simple question as I'm still a beginner : what's wrong with it :) ?

Thanks a lot for any advice!

EDITED Dec 9th 2020, 11:05

Hey all, thanks for your feedback! :)

Definitely an fx module would add spice to your Mother 32 such as Make Noise Mimeophon or perhaps Erica Synths Black Hole DSP? I really spiced up my small setup by adding Mimeophon that really gives dozens of new tones and cool sounds.

Thanks for the responses. Interesting to hear Plaits over Maths.
I mostly worked with daw software until I came across VCV. I’m interested in the way that the modules lead me to discovery. So, I guess a generative type of instrument. I added Ears for a tactile percussion element. But I’m mostly into the meditative vibe of it in the moment and adding layers in real time, not for recording.

EDITED Dec 9th 2020, 02:32

Yes, it would be helpful to know what kind of music you are making, and what you would like to achieve.
I think I would want some effects, so an FX Aid XL might come in handy. Peaks is a love-hate module for me. I have the mini-clone Pique, and while it has a lot of functions, they sort of defeat the purpose of modular because you can't really control anything with CV. I would look for something with more patch points that your Mother 32 could actually interact with. Maths or Quadrax would be fun in this regard. Plaits would add a range of voices. A random or chaos module like the Wogglebug or Triple Sloths could be cool...
Let us know what other gear you already have and what you want to accomplish by adding to your Mother.
Have fun and good luck.

I suppose to some extent it depends what you're trying to do musically, and also what other musical gear you have hanging around. It's hard even then to recommend a single module... but I think my suggestion would be to add the Plaits first, then Maths.

Hi Zuggamasta,

Nice to see your DIY modules and watch you being busy with it. Nice video and lovely to watch.

Nice to fiddle about & away with modular, right? ;-) Enjoy and kind regards, Garfield.

I’ve had the Mother 32 for months and it’s a great way to start my journey into eurorack. I’m ready to start adding more and explore more sounds and possibilities. I think I’ve settled on a second row- I like the size, 4ms makes a 60hp pod that is powered but it’s a little shallow for some modules. But I like the size and I have a good idea for putting my carpenter skills to work for a nice tabletop case.
After building the case and getting the mscale, I’ll start getting the modules but I have to budget- so ya’know, one at a time.
My question is: what module should I start with that will be the most fun to interact with my moog?

EDITED Dec 8th 2020, 23:40

Nice! I'm always down for the Amen break.

Haha. Yeah, it's got kind of a mountain vibe.
I just thought it was an interesting acoustic guitar and cajon sound. Not something I expected from an FSS module.

This made me miss the mountains @farkas, very interesting, and thanks for sharing.

IMHO you can't fit drums into an ambient rack of this size because you need effects plus better modulation tools to do ambient well. I took a crack at what I'd build, see below:

For effects, I added a delay (Chronoblob2), a granular processor (Monsoon), and a dedicated reverb (Erbe-verbe). I switched up some of the mixers, including adding a Mixup which is stereo and a DTM which does nice warm distortion if desired, added a Maths (which I always do), attached a Nin to the Zadar so you can use the Zadar as a playable tool (including long changes over time), threw in a Sloth for weird modulation, swapped an STO for a Dixie II+ (no reason to duplicate modules this early in your journey and Dixie also functions as an LFO), and dropped a Kinks in for good measure.

Weaknesses: I'm not an expert on a lot of the MI modules here so I may be missing something, it's light on attenuators (with only those in Maths and your VCAs), and I would personally probably want a second filter (I'd probably pick a Doepfer ladder over a Wasp though).

Anyway, hopefully this provides some useful ideas!

I got around recording something on my daw-free setup, with some nice lights and the current Rack. I collected a lot of performance and structure ideas from this jam, which I should probably rehearse much more before recording next time ;)

Hey Community,

I thought about this quiete long and wanted to have a Techno & Ambient-Drony kind of Rack. The Queen of Pentakles is sequenced by a Beatstep Pro, Nerdseq does the Rest. What do you think?

EDITED Dec 8th 2020, 15:32

Bugfix: upload images in Safari

That is more a Safari bug than a ModularGrid bug, but I have made a walkaround so that it is possible again to upload module, pedal images and user avatars in Safari 14.

Considering to swap my old doepfer 8hp noise/random module and and my large 4x LFO module for new mini (4hp) versions to gain space. Not sure yet. Working on a good deal to get a Intellijel mixup. Probably next week. Also negotiating a uBurst Clouds clone to add to my Plaits and Rings super combo, with a MI Marbles being shipped to arrive later this week. Still room for some multiples etc.
To be continued.

Hi Gabor,

Oh man, this is super cool! He, he, I love the video, it's nice to see you at work, it's interesting too and very entertaining.

I only can beg for more :-) Thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.