I am verry pleased with my https://www.modulargrid.net/e/erica-synths-black-quad-vca2 but then again I only have experience with the Erica Synths VCA's.


So I originated a post that shared my rack. I changed the arrangement after and then tried resharing by copy/pasting. However, it keeps reposting the original rack's confinguration no matter what I do. So bizarre! Also, sorry for starting a thread for this as I am still learning this thing. I would much rather just contact admin privately, but I don't see that option. Guidance is not only accepted, but much apprecieated!!

over:under


IMHO it's hard to go wrong with the Intellijel Quad VCA, always sounds clean and has a ton of features packed in. You might have even been the one to recommend it to me @farkas.


Hey everyone!

I currently own a Behringer 2600, and just bought a 62hp intellijel palette case. I write music for film, and am looking for build suggestions as to what will give me the broadest sonic palette - primarily darker/gritty sound design (with some ambient capability). I own a digitakt as well, and would love for this build to be functional compositionally away from the computer.

Any suggestions as to what this build could look like?


Thanks JimHowell1970 ! That's perfect.


Well, I've found myself in need of more VCAs (insert "you can never have too many..." joke here). I was thinking about investing in something that is a little more pricy than the usual suspects, specifically the L-1 Discrete Blacksea Quad VCA/Mixer (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/l-1-discrete-blacksea-quad-vca-mixer), but aside from a few extra features like the lin/exp switches, is it diminishing returns to spend twice as much as something like the perfectly servicable Happy Nerding 3xVCA, Intellijel, Veils, etc.?
I love the Happy Nerding stuff I already have, so I'm sure the 3xVCA would be decent. Is it just an indulgence to invest in the L-1 or something "high end" in that vein? I'm not an audiophile, in fact I usually focus on lo-fi styles, but I'm already pretty covered on that front. I need something on the cleaner side.
Just fishing for opinions, really. What do you all think? Anyone have experience with L-1, or another VCA module that you swear by?
Thanks in advance!


I think that was recently added. You may be able to edit some of them and add the tag if you are bored.


What is going on with (vintage??) Maths ???

I have seen all kinds of gear being declared vintage or rare over the last few years, to justify a higher price level. the latest i noticed was the vintage makenoise maths, with prices around 5/600 up to 900 and even 1100 ($ or €)

wtf??!! is it so much better than the newer and current model, to justify a price for used modules that is 2,3 or even 4 times the price of a new Maths?

Am i missing something?


in the mean time you can always type shift register in the search field - that works!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


If you go searching for "shift register" there are zero modules in the results. This must be some kind of glitch or MG just added shift register to module descriptions before manufactures had a change to use that tag?

All I know is I was searching for a specific SR and noticed nothing comes up under that "function." There are zero results.

Maybe someone at MG could fix this for us?


Are they why everyone says get a bigger case?


I find there are enough Space Clowns outside my case noodling so having more inside the case would be overkill, I'm never sure of the current draw of internal clowns either.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Understood! Very helpful! Tyvm!


I use RackBrutes. They’re supposed to have 88hp per row. They actually have 89. I always leave the extra 1hp for better ventilation.
And against space clowns... I have an adorable (fawn) pug and five cats (including two black cats, @wishbonebrewery ;)

Otherwise, I don’t know what it’s worth, but there is also this: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/konstant-lab-pwr-checker

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


I'd love a few comments on my first rack. I'd been planning to go smaller, and picked up the System 3 for a good deal, but then also found a good deal on a 104hp Palette Case that I couldn't refuse!

I've bought all the items shown except Maths and the Intellijel I/O 1U modules. I'm not averse to selling or trading, but I'm going to play with what I've got for a while to get to grips with it.

The idea with this rack is to make a flexible (potentially future paraphonic or polyphonic by adding Intellijel CVx) synthesizer and (very basic) drum rack that can also do some processing/responding to incoming audio. It's starting out as a playground, with the view to becoming a live performance rack alongside acoustic instrument and vocal looping (not on the rack). Duties are as follows:

  • Pico 3 - main voice and playground
  • Rample - drums
  • Ornament & Crime - quantization (missing on the Pico) or other utility
  • Flurry - texture (I like cheesy vinyl crackle and waves) and/or strumming Rangoon (Rings)
  • Rangoon (Rings) - secondary synth voice, naturalistic percussion, texture, processing incoming audio, pseudo reverb
  • Maths - envelope follower/jack of all trades

The only thing I'm missing is a live sampler/looper/delay (apart from the Bucket Brigade on the Pico), but I plan to use an octatrack and/or Boss RC-600 outboard for these duties at first. I may replace Rampage with Morphagene in future if I want to get experimental and have CV control over looping/mangling.

I'm sure as soon as I start patching I will realise I need a couple other utilities, and there's space for a few other bits as I expand. But for now, any comments from experienced eurorack knob-twiddlers would be great!

(edited to remove unnecessary link)


1hp gaps are good for back-routing clock signals around the case.
1hp gaps are great between 2hp Modular Modules.
Ventilation is good.
-- wishbonebrewery

But what about the space clowns?


  • Both Pamelas Workouts need to load bank H
  • CS-L oscillators are both tuned to E
  • DFAM is tuned to E
  • Mother-32 is in concert (C is C)

the mini midi breakout module (only 2hp) has multiple i/o (3 of each iirc) so can be used by both the es9 and the disting simulatneously, you just need the right ribbon cables and the right midi adapters

otherwise you could make custom cables to connect midi cables to idc conndectors... but the module solution above is probably a lot easier and cheaper!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thread: Feedback

the wmd modules may be difficult to source, they closed, but have re-started as ammt (I think that's correct), but I haven't seen any modules from the new company yet, I know the plan is to re-issue newer versions of some of the wmd modules

you should be able to pick them up used, but they may be expensive! or there may be a few left in stores!

you might want another filter, a waveshaper, a simple mixer, a clock divider, an end of chain mixer (with send/return) etc to get the most out of these modules...

how are you intending to mix the output of the modular and the analog rytm...

can the analog rytm be externally clocked?

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Again, thanks for the tips.

Question:
Do I need a module to amplify (gain) the audio from my synths if I want to input it into a Eurorack module (i.e. a filter)? The output of my Korg Monologue, for example, is as loud as the headphone out (I tested). How does headphone level volume compare to modular level?

the simple answer is try it and see, it won't break anything, but I suspect that you'll need an input amplifier... NB most of these (& the filters you are looking at) are mono

Off topic
I live near The Hague, in The Netherlands. In the eighties there were two very good and famous music stores here and they had a shop in the center of the city. They were Servaas and Rock Palace. The first closed shop in 1994 (wow! has it been that long? I'm getting F-ing elderly!) the second became Key Music a few years ago and is closed now. Like some of you said: when it became Key Music the personnel that studied or worked in the music biz disappeared and buffons who insult your intelligence were placed behind the counter. Modularsynthesizers.nl oficially resides at Lulofsstraat 55 in The Hague (they're not open to the public). I know where that is, never occured to me though.

There also was a very, very nice store in Rotterdam (not in the center though) that became Key Music and then went bust/disappeared. Went there a few times w/ public transportation to look around and bought stuff there. They had a big classic car in the middle of the store. If you know how to read Dutch (or if Google translate can make something readable out of it) then there's a saddning article of its downwfall after it became Key Music here. See picture below.

Key Music Rotterdam, R.I.P.

I'm afraid that nowadays we're bound to reviewers and sound snippets on Yuotube to "test" and "listen" to musical instruments.

it's a shame that synthesizers.nl has completely closed to the public... they would have been really handy for you!

The Hague to Amsterdam is not that bad a trip on the train, though... neither long or expensive... so a trip to MIDI Amsterdam shouldn't be out of the question - maybe give Tim a call before though, if you want to try out specific modules...

BTW
Luckily AJH Synth modules can be bought in "regular" web shops like Thomann etc. Second hand might still be an option, however: I fear that shipping from outside The Netherlands (even if it's in the EU) is gonna be so expensive that what I save is little. Some sources say I even have to pay VAT (which is a whopping 21% in Holland) if I buy second hand from Great Britan or the US. I might have a look around though in the Dutch synthesizer forum: they sell a lot of stuff 2nd hand there too.

I asked Bax Music about one of the modules that I like. They don't disclose their mail address on their website anymore (deal breaker for me) and I can see that they haven't read the mail, or replied to it, yet.

-- MeneerJansen

it's definitely a possibility that you'll get hit for any combination of import duty, VAT and handling charges, if you shop outside the EU... so stick to EU! and yeah not much point buying a used module if it's only 20€ less than buying it new, especially if you can get free shipping on the new module...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Again, thanks for the tips.

Question:
Do I need a module to amplify (gain) the audio from my synths if I want to input it into a Eurorack module (i.e. a filter)? The output of my Korg Monologue, for example, is as loud as the headphone out (I tested). How does headphone level volume compare to modular level?

Off topic
I live near The Hague, in The Netherlands. In the eighties there were two very good and famous music stores here and they had a shop in the center of the city. They were Servaas and Rock Palace. The first closed shop in 1994 (wow! has it been that long? I'm getting F-ing elderly!) the second became Key Music a few years ago and is closed now. Like some of you said: when it became Key Music the personnel that studied or worked in the music biz disappeared and buffons who insult your intelligence were placed behind the counter. Modularsynthesizers.nl oficially resides at Lulofsstraat 55 in The Hague (they're not open to the public). I know where that is, never occured to me though.

There also was a very, very nice store in Rotterdam (not in the center though) that became Key Music and then went bust/disappeared. Went there a few times w/ public transportation to look around and bought stuff there. They had a big classic car in the middle of the store. If you know how to read Dutch (or if Google translate can make something readable out of it) then there's a saddning article of its downwfall after it became Key Music here. See picture below.

Key Music Rotterdam, R.I.P.

I'm afraid that nowadays we're bound to reviewers and sound snippets on Yuotube to "test" and "listen" to musical instruments.

BTW
Luckily AJH Synth modules can be bought in "regular" web shops like Thomann etc. Second hand might still be an option, however: I fear that shipping from outside The Netherlands (even if it's in the EU) is gonna be so expensive that what I save is little. Some sources say I even have to pay VAT (which is a whopping 21% in Holland) if I buy second hand from Great Britan or the US. I might have a look around though in the Dutch synthesizer forum: they sell a lot of stuff 2nd hand there too.

I asked Bax Music about one of the modules that I like. They don't disclose their mail address on their website anymore (deal breaker for me) and I can see that they haven't read the mail, or replied to it, yet.


Thread: Feedback

hi its my first rack i created. really new in that topic and would appreciate some advice!

for clock and sequencing ill use my beatstep pro, for drums my analog rytm.

i guess the magneto is overkill but i really liked it especially for live situations

in genreal i want to play live. really like all the crazy percussion stuff from the chimera and fracture easily triggered with the euclidean circles. blawan is using the wmd structure and i really liked the sounds hes creating with it. on the other hand 2 legions are really expensive but also a lot of possibilities.


Hi guys!

First post here. I'm looking to create a small-ish ambient rack including an ES9 audio interface and a Disting EX multipurpose module. Both are by Expert Sleepers and both have MIDI breakouts on their circuit boards.

Can I connect the breakouts directly and so avoid 2 sets of front panel connectors (4hp total) that I have no other use for as the ES9 has all the connectivity I need otherwise? Is the cable purchaseable or will I have to make it?

With love,

Ken


One thought to keep your GAS in check is the fact that if you buy a less expensive module as a means to approximate what you really want, it will cost you more in the long run. I go through this occasionally. I buy something fairly inexpensive because it gets me somewhat close to the sound I'm looking for, and six months later I am selling it at a loss because of the sound or ergonomics/user interface, etc. Save up money to buy what you really want. And go slow so that you actually know what you really want and need to realize your goals.
For what it's worth, I have the AJH MiniMod Ladder Filter and a bunch of other AJH modules. If you want the Moog sound and experience, I can't think of anything outside of Moog themselves that would even get close to AJH in the eurorack format. They're truly stunning and a joy to play. I will keep my AJH stuff until I'm deep in the cold, cold ground.
Have fun and good luck!


BRILLIANT!!!

over:under


1hp gaps are good for back-routing clock signals around the case.
1hp gaps are great between 2hp Modular Modules.
Ventilation is good.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Just FYI, MIDI Amsterdam used to have a habit of listing items online as "in stock" even if they weren't. Don't know if they still do that, but I remember ordering one hard to find item that they had listed on their website as "in stock", I didn't receive a shipping notice after several days so I sent them an email to check on it. Two more days passed with no response so I canceled my order and bought it somewhere else. It was pretty clear at that point that they didn't actually have it in stock. I've heard of other people having similar experiences.
-- adaris

actually I don;t think I've ever bought anything off them online - only in store... always best to phone them...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Just FYI, MIDI Amsterdam used to have a habit of listing items online as "in stock" even if they weren't. Don't know if they still do that, but I remember ordering one hard to find item that they had listed on their website as "in stock", I didn't receive a shipping notice after several days so I sent them an email to check on it. Two more days passed with no response so I canceled my order and bought it somewhere else. It was pretty clear at that point that they didn't actually have it in stock. I've heard of other people having similar experiences.


No Problem

I know what you mean... familiarity etc... but I can tell you from experience that MIDI Amsterdam, The Music House (Utrecht) and ModularSynthesizers.nl are all great to buy from both online and in the case of the first 2 in store - not sure about the music house, as they were threatening to get out of modular (check their website)... but they were great... having spent thousands between them...

the only issue I have with modularsynthesizers.nl (den hague) is that they want you to make an appointment, so I never went there...

If I'm not mistaken then a MiniMoog has sort of the same filter but it appears to, partly, thank it's wonderful sound due to a slightly overdriven input from the oscillator.

something like that - the architecture of a minimoog is iirc: 1-3 vcos -> a cp3 mixer (which has some gain) -> filter -> vca

if you want to get a cp3 like mixer then the AISynthesis Harmonic Mixer is the one I'd go for...

I'll do some research on buying second hand in Holland.

I'd extend to EU in general... on here we have a good marketplace & good and bad transactions threads on the forum (so you can to some extent verify sellers) and on modwiggler you have to have at least 100 posts to create a for sale thread - as I said use PayPal (but not friends and family) and you are insured anyway! but there should also be a local facebook buy/sell group (and if not a EU one) etc

Unfortunatly all physical music stores in the part of Holand where I lve have closed. And when they were still open I wasn't impressed by the people working there in the end. So listening to the mudule in question is almost out of the question.

if it was Key Music - I understand completely!!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I would suggest using 1HP blanks if you dont want little exposed gaps as there are no particulary usable modules that I can think of, which are that small.

Here are some honourable meantions for 1HP blanks

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/fully-wired-electronics-1hp-blanking-panel (Fully Wired Elecronics Store - https://www.fullywiredelectronics.com/product-page/1hp-blanking-panel-3u)

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-1hp-blank (Thomann - https://www.thomann.de/de/make_noise_1hp_blank.htm)

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-100b1 (Thomann - https://www.thomann.de/de/doepfer_a_100_b1.htm?ref=search_complete_a%20100b1_suggestion_products%20-%20Doepfer%20A-100%20B1_Doepfer%20A-100%20B1_0)

That said gaps are of course useful as venting


To get the 'classic' Moog filter you definity need a 24dB/Oct 24dB/Oct transistor ladder filter. As @JimHowell1970 said the MiniMoog Model D labeled 'Resonance' as 'Emphasis'. There are quite a few really good filters that would suite. If you search transistor ladder filter one from AJH Synth and Dopfer (both respected brands) will show up, but so will others like something modular (I dont know them personally, they seem to be a relitively new manufacture) and Fully Wired Electronics (but I'll leave my personal bias which is infavour of FWE for now).

It's a shame that is the case with your local physical music stores, its somewhat similar where I am, so I completely undertsand wanting to shop with retailers you know and have dealt with before.


@danlegg and @JimHowell1970 thank you for your replies.

I'd preferably buy from companies like Thomann because I'm familiar with 'm (in the sense that I've bought from 'm before).

I didn't know that line level is considerably lower than modular level, I was afraid that I'd "blow up" the modules with output from a synth. Good to know that I sooner need Gain instead of an attenuator.

One of the filters I considered is, indeed, the Doepfer A-120. I saw reviews on Youtube about the Behringer 904A and they said that is was a reasonable replica of the orig. 904A filter (24 dB/oct) from good ol' Moog. If I'm not mistaken then a MiniMoog has sort of the same filter but it appears to, partly, thank it's wonderful sound due to a slightly overdriven input from the oscillator. So maybe I'll have to go for the Doepfer: a brand well respected in the Eurorack community if I'm not mistaken.

I'll do some research on buying second hand in Holland.

Unfortunatly all physical music stores in the part of Holand where I lve have closed. And when they were still open I wasn't impressed by the people working there in the end. So listening to the mudule in question is almost out of the question.

I'll do some more research w/ the help of the extra info I've got now! Thanks.


Im assuming you want 3U, correct?
-- danlegg

Yes

over:under


midi-clock to trigger - some midi->cv modules have this...

or

use one of the drum tracks as a trigger and just plug it into the modular - may need amplifying!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


doepfer amongst others make them - available at most modular stores worldwide... for only a few $/€/£...

although 1hp gaps aren't that bad (screws can get in but patch cables probably can't) and can be helpful with regards to cooling...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I have a vague recollection that the intensity knob on a minimoog is what is normally called resonance on most filter modules... including modules that are modelled after moog filters...

I'm pretty sure that the nifty case does not include a vca... iirc it includes a very basic midi->cv functionality, a dual 1/8" -> 1/4" converter and a multiple (to make a copy of a signal)...

most envelope generators work best with gates... sustain (the S in ADSR) controls really only control the level of sustain not the lehgth - so need the gate to be held open to actually sustain

yes basically the intensity knob is an attenuator which controls the amount of the envelope is applied to the intensity (resonance)

almost always when you see an A in modular it's attenuation, even if the module calls itself an amplifier - VCAs for example - you need to read the module specifications as to how much gain is involved - most VCAs for example are unity gain, and as such are effectively voltage controlled attenuators...

you may or may not need an output module or attenuator to put between the output of the filter and the nifty case output... it really depends what you are sending it to... a lot of modernish mixers and audio interfaces can cope with modular levels - I often used to use a yamaha mg10 and could plug straight into it... if you experience clipping then you do, if you don't you don't!

you will almost definitely want to amplify the output from any other synth though... as this will be at line level which is considerably lower than modular level... and filters will expect modular levels and generally like to be driven a bit... again research, research, research - cheaper ones can be a bit on the noisy side... the doepfer a-119 for instance is known for it's grittiness to put it mildly... the befaco instrument interface is quite quiet... also available as DIY...

if you get an input module with an envelope follower built into it, both the modules I've mentioned do, you may be able to get away without midi-CV or an envelope module - just feed the envelope follower output into the resonance input of the filter...

I wouldn't recommend anything you've listed above though... none of them are really keepers...

I'd suggest doing more research (it's one of the major ways of not spending money in eurorack) to find the actual modules that you really want - this involves google and finding, for example, the best moog-like filter (it'll be a low pass ladder filter with 34db/oct iirc), then going to youtube and watching demos of different ones to work out which you like the best and then preferably going to an actual shop to demo one before you buy, or buying a used one (here and modwiggler are good for that) - don't just buy something because it's cheap - there are reasons why some modules are cheap... doepfer are reasonably inexpensive (only a little bit more expensive than the b-compnay) and they have a good reputation, unlike the b-company...

for example this module https://www.modulargrid.net/e/ajh-synth-minimod-transistor-ladder-filter is supposed to be a very good modular version of a minimoog filter - it may be available at thomann, but there are many other modular specialist stores in the EU & I'd buy one from them if possible, or get a used one... there's a list of modular stores in the EU (and worldwide) that stock eurorack modules and accessories in the stickies of the 1u and 3u subforum on modwiggler... you'll get much better service with any of these than with the bigger box shifters like thomann or musicstore... and prices are generally about the same...

if you buy used and then decide to sell it it may only cost you the postage (as you'll probably be able to sell it for a similar price to what you paid for it) - most modules will depreciate by 20-30% once they are out of the store, cheaper ones may be very difficult to resell for even 50%... same goes for cases... if you do buy used from a private seller on a website - make sure not to use friends and family (and take the small hit on cost)

this module may also be worth looking at: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-120

same for envelope generators - you probably want an ADSR type...

most of us suffer from GAS from time to time - although it gets less and less... there's a reason that they call eurorack eurocrack...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Im assuming you want 3U, correct?


Any good ideas on how to plug these holes? Every few rows of my rack has one, it "seams"

Anyone know any 1hp modules or panels?

I don't want the space clowns to escape through the cracks.....

over:under


Sorry if you've meantioned it, and I've missed it whilst reading through. Are you looking to purchase solely from Thomann?


Anyone have a simple and clean solution for syning these things to modular world?
It's exclusion of standard Trigger is annoying at best

over:under


Hello there,

My first post here. Been lurking around and like the positive atmosphere.

To get straight to the point: I've read the post "Why to NOT get into modular synthesis" and I fall into Category 0 called "not having sufficient capital to sustain a build", ha ha. ;) I've studied various options and initially the best one for me (to dip my toes in) seemed to be the Behringer 104 case. However, it's less than 4 cm (1.5") deep which rules out even B. own CP1A power supply (!). The price for a recommended case of 2 x 3U high and 104 HP wide rises exponentially then. Even for a humble 104 HP setup to get started.

I'm a synth hobbyist (I don't make actual finished "music" or songs): I like to experiment. I hate DAW's and even recording DAW-less is too much hassle for me. I own a few cheap but very sweet synths that are dear to me.

However, at the moment I'm suffering, yet again, from a serious case of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) and I'm barely able to control myself from buying more synths. Most of 'm can do only one trick that the synths in my modest, small, collection can't. It's getting frustrating that I have to shelf some of 'm. But I'll never sell 'm: I'd rather die. Each one fills a certain "gap" or "need" (such as: polyphony, organ, freak machine, quick 'n dirty to setup, drum machine, sampler, choose pre-set and have fun, super portable sit on the couch, etc.).

Anyway, I'd like to finally own me a fat 24 dB/oct filter (like the one in a MiniMoog) but I'll be damned to buy a Behringer Model D only for the filter. I'd like to experiment a bit with sample and hold (The Who anyone?) but I'll be damned to buy an MS-20 or Behringer K-2 for only that (I'm almost unable to control myself concerning the K-2 though).

I'm jealous of people who can buy a small, single, module that'll expand one's setup with functionality like that. And use it in combination with other stuff without shelving one or two synths because of the lack of space in the work/hobby area.

What I'd like to have is a modular setup with at least a Midi to CV module to trigger an EG (I've got more than enough Midi sequencers and Midi keyboards already, I don't want a Arturia Keystep). And then I'd like to input the sound from a synth's oscillator into a modest modular rack to route it to, say, a filter w/ an EG. I don't know for sure if that's possible. I was thinking about the following for example:

I'd like to do the following:

  • Connect my synths' audio OUT (which is triggered on/off by it's own keyboard) (maybe attenuated by my audio device or mixer) into a Eurorack Filter's IN.
  • Connect my synths Midi OUT to a Eurorack Midi-to-CV module.
  • Connect the Midi-to-CV gate (or trigger?) OUT to the EG's gate IN.
  • Connect the EG's OUT (is that CV?) to the Filter CV IN.
  • Route the Filter audio OUT to an amplifier or audio device.
  • Use my synth w/ a different Filter that way.

I don't know for sure if I can use, for example, the Gate OUT of the Cre8audio Nifty Case to trigger an EG (the Nifty manual says you can, on page 6), or that I need a Midi-to-CV module like the Behringer CM1A with a trigger OUT.

I also don't know if I definitely need an attenuator. And I don't know if the Filter modules that I listed really have that "Moog" sound. On a MiniMoog (and any other synth I have) there a knob marked "Intensisty" or "Amount" which controls how intense the filter cutoff is controlled by the EG. I.e. when Int. is set to 0 then the filter is on but not controlled by the EG. Is that an attenuator? Or does the Int. knob on a regular synth amplify (not attenuate) the CV from your EG?

I do know that the Cre8audio Nify Case has too little HP's to most people's liking, but it has on-board Midi-to-CV and a VCA so it can be directly connected to a mixer or audio device. That'll save me HP's and money. What I also like about it is its portability: could be the ideal friend for a synthesizer.

And after dipping my toes into modular I might even buy me a proper case if I get addicted (sell the Nifty Case).

To make a long story short: I'd like to expand a synth with a modest Eurorack setup. Is that doable?


I'm building my first Eurorack system as well, after some expience with semi-modular synths and VCV rack etc.

I was personally looking at the Fully Wired Electronics Transistor Ladder Filter https://www.modulargrid.net/e/fully-wired-electronics-transistor-ladder-filter. I could be making the completely wrong choice but I quite like the sound of it, with it being a ladder filter and all. Plus (Again I could be completely wrong) but it doesnt seem overly expenisive if I don't like it in the end. From what I've seen I assume it self-oscillates.
-- timeandspace

seems inexpensive - this in itself is not a good reason to buy it though... that you like the sound of it is, though!

the description states that it tracks v/oct - which might indicate that it self resonates. or might just mean that the cut-off frequency is calibrated to v/oct... I'd contact the manufacturer for clarification before buying, if I were you, if this is important to you

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


by that I mean - you only want to use 1 wall socket - as opposed to trying to find 2 spare scokets wherever you have dragged your rack to... so a power strip would also be a viable option... as it only uses 1 socket...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Can you please clarify the process to do this with a manufacturer acccount.
-- justgrid

Manufacturers should see delete buttons on the different version images on their module detail pages. The server then tries to remap all of those version images in all existing racks.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


Who's up for a blend of sounds from Moog synths, Prophet 10, Behringer System55, and some expressive guitar pedals? Here's some humble 12-min Dark Ambient Electronica I made.

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Sorry that this is a bit complicated, the whole version image thing came late to the site and is a bit a mess. If you have a manufacturer account you should be able to delete the version images.
I will try to make it possible that users can delete there own uploaded images. The challenge is to not destroy thousands of existing racks that already have those images assigned.
-- modulargrid

Can you please clarify the process to do this with a manufacturer acccount.


I'm building my first Eurorack system as well, after some expience with semi-modular synths and VCV rack etc.

I was personally looking at the Fully Wired Electronics Transistor Ladder Filter https://www.modulargrid.net/e/fully-wired-electronics-transistor-ladder-filter. I could be making the completely wrong choice but I quite like the sound of it, with it being a ladder filter and all. Plus (Again I could be completely wrong) but it doesnt seem overly expenisive if I don't like it in the end. From what I've seen I assume it self-oscillates.


yep!


But let me get this thing clear: are you using a kick sample as a trigger to clock ("clock in" input to module)? I could probably do something similar into Pams New Workout... Thanks again!

-- Matara

yes...

you'll probably need to mess with the volume of the audio channel or pams will not recognise it (about 30-49% works for me in logic using an es-8 for output)...

paste the kick sample (I got mine from the make noise site, not sure it's still there) at whatever frequency you need it for as long as you need it (I have it at 4ppqn, iirc, ie every 16th note) for 120 bars or so) and then save that as a template...

set pams to run at the same ppqn with external clock, I also set it to run/stop on receipt of clock...

works for me... should work for you!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


yes but are you trying to avoid 2 wall warts to avoid using 2 sockets?

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities