Check out Intellijels Rainmaker. I have both Beads and Mimeophon, and theyre awesome, but the Rainmaker is on a whole other level. Its a bit pricier than the others but its a super textured delay powerhouse.

-- anelekt

I would love Rainmaker I just don't have the room for it 😭


If you need an accurate and powerful Delay module, I think it’s better to differentiate specialized modules like Dual Looping Delay (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-dual-looping-delay), or Chronoblob2 (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alright-devices-chronoblob2) for example, and all those whose function allows a mix of sound manipulations including more or less the Delay function (like Beads, excellent module by the way, or Mimeophon).
-- Sweelinck

I hadn't considered that but it makes sense, I think in my case I'm looking for more of the variation and it seems like beads it is for now. Thanks!


It's not as versatile, but especially if you have one that has dedicated knobs for the blend-modes, it may be a cheaper option than the modules mentioned above. Here I can find the After Later Audio Typhoon for 250 euros for example. This way you can easily check if granular/looping delays are something that fits your style.

-- dubstepjoris

Thanks so much for the idea! I'm definitely trying to save some money and this seems like a great option to test stuff out.


At the moment, beads acts in my setup like a data bender for unpredictable random glitches and broken harddisk error- effects

-- MCGM

This seems super promising for what I'm hoping to make, thank you for the input!


Love what my rack can do but not sure if I should keep the Tymp Legio. It is a great kick and the hats I can produce sound good too. The mids and toms sound decent as well but I can't get a snare that sounds good out of it to save my life.

I was able to pick up last month a Sample Drum which is what I originally really wanted but was not going to pay $500 CAD for it but I did get super lucky and find one around my bday for like $325 used in immaculate shape and it does all the inrack drum duties I could want plus cv mixing in sliced samples I create on the fly from my other modules makes for some super creative drums.

For a rack not focused on drums and wanting this system to be completely self contained, would you get rid of the Tymp Legio?

I currently have MI Tides but will be removing that module to make room for the Waver and the Ts-L V2.


If you can get your hands on an inexpensive clouds clone, there's an alternative firmware for it that add several modes besides granular: reverb with pitch-shift, resonator, looping delay and looping delay with pitch-shift. It's from Matthias Puech who also worked on serveral 4MS modules. You can check more on this website https://mqtthiqs.github.io/parasites/clouds.html.

It's not as versatile, but especially if you have one that has dedicated knobs for the blend-modes, it may be a cheaper option than the modules mentioned above. Here I can find the After Later Audio Typhoon for 250 euros for example. This way you can easily check if granular/looping delays are something that fits your style.

Alternatively, if you want to go have a big dedicated module without this alternative firmware stuff, the modules mentioned above seems very interesting and there are some great video's on YouTube on them.


Some thoughts:
- Very nice that you've chosen VCA with independent CV and manual level control. This way, you can use the VCA as an attenuator as well.
- You have quite a few modules that are reasonibly big for what they do, aka they have very specific functionality. For example, Erica Synths Ring Mod, Dreadbox Dystopia, Behringer 305 EQ/Mixer/Output. Behringer Brains and Behringer Perfect Pitch 1 are also a bit wide. This is not a problem per se, just an observation.
- 4Ms Shuffling clock multiplier is nice but for a beginner rack I'd recommend this beside an ALM Pamela's New/Pro workout. This module is a bit more versatile since it can also do euclidean rhythms, LFOs and Quantazation. So the SCM is a nice addition for more experimental or polyrhythms.
- You mention that you use the Keystep 37. This has a sync in/output so you can link it to a clock module. I see there is no reset in/out on the Keystep (meaning that when you stop and start a sequence on the Keystep, it won't restart your divided clock for example). When you start with this rack, I think you can manage to go without a reset, but later on you can use a midi to clock or clock to midi module for this (like the expanders for the Pamela's New/Pro Workout modules)
- Note that the Behringer Perfect Pitch PP1 converts Midi NOTE data and not the clock! You don't really need this part I believe as the Keystep 37 has CV/Gate/Mod output as well. You can still get this module for the instrument interface, but just so you know.
- You got four oscillators and three filters (plus your guitar/bass), this is quite a lot for the size of rack that you have. Especially as you have only one sequencer (your Keystep). I'd advice to drop one or two of these oscillators and add more utilities or a more versatile effects unit. Such as a micro Ornament & Crime or a Disting EX.
- If you want more sequences at the same time, consider upgrading your Keystep 37 to the Keystep Pro. This will give you four melodic sequences or three melodic sequences + a drum sequencer, all via CV or Midi. Also has more versatile sequence management.


If you need an accurate and powerful Delay module, I think it’s better to differentiate specialized modules like Dual Looping Delay (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-dual-looping-delay), or Chronoblob2 (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alright-devices-chronoblob2) for example, and all those whose function allows a mix of sound manipulations including more or less the Delay function (like Beads, excellent module by the way, or Mimeophon).

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


Maybe think about, which modules you already have to pair with.

I saw a Morphagene in your rack.
this can also add some tape character and effects, but as far i know without saturation

I like the mimeophon, because its nice to modulate, good to control and very playable.

I grabbed a beads last week. It appears very versatile to me, but right know I dont know how to tame it. I guess you have to know excactly what you are doing to control it. But maybe I just need more time to learn it.

I guess Beads can replace or substitute other modules. For example, I wanted to buy a Qu-bit Data Bender, but I realized that I can do similar effects with beads stutter- / glitch mode.

At the moment, beads acts in my setup like a data bender for unpredictable random glitches and broken harddisk error- effects

Greetings

Chris


Hi,
Oops! it's different from the jpg...well...
For Envelope generator and LFO tasks
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-quadrax-
maybe it is a good option, somewhat expensive but worth it.
If not, obviously, Maths,
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-maths--
For VCA's any Veil's clone.
For effects, https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-fx-aid-black or if you don't want to have to remember the LED combinations, the XL version https://www.modulargrid.net/e/happy-nerding-fx-aid-xl-black
You would need more utilities, clock divider, attenuverters, logic modules...
Best regards,


Hi,
Link to the rack is better than a jpg, so we can navigate through the modules
ModularGrid Rack


Check out Intellijels Rainmaker. I have both Beads and Mimeophon, and theyre awesome, but the Rainmaker is on a whole other level. Its a bit pricier than the others but its a super textured delay powerhouse.

I dont have and havent used Sealegs, but between the other 2 it really depends on what you want from your delay. If youre interested in granular stuff, go with Beads. Otherwise i'd choose Mimeophon, personally. Its defintely a more textured delay. But then again being a delay is not what Beads does best.


I'm really struggling to pick a delay out right now. I want to make super textured sounds so beads seems obvious but sealegs has the tape sound option which is also interesting to me. And then there's also mimeophon, which seems great all around. I like the sound of them all and can see potential benefits in them all, so I'm just looking for any experiences with them or advice that might help me make a conclusion, thanks.

Edit: Also any other ideas I didn't mention



I'm going to dive into the modular synthesis world and I've been planning this module for a couple of months now, but I'm really clueless if it is "complete" or if I'm missing anything important, or maybe, I have something that would be a waste os HP and money. I'm planing to operate this Eurorack and other devices with an Arturia Keystep pro 37, and I also plan to connect some times electric guitars and basses.
Thanks in advance and don't overroast me please...https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2357696.jpg


to me it seems very heavy on sound sources and modifiers - light on modulayion sources & utilities...

see my signature for firther details and food for thought!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Hi,
If you buy them in the exact size you will have the advantage of having the fit for the cable tab.
Ferran.
-- ferranadsr

but only if you buy shrouded headers - which is great if they fit... not so great when they don't!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Update: So I figured a ""workaround"" and that is to delete every module and add them back one by one. Not super ideal but it seems to be stable atm.
-- JFerg

I have seen that you had modules lie on top of each other in your dotcom system. Not sure how that happened, but I guess this was the cause of problems.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


Update: So I figured a ""workaround"" and that is to delete every module and add them back one by one. Not super ideal but it seems to be stable atm.


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Thanks :)

The BSP is just rested on the modular and is completly in the way at all times, I'm probably going to order some little clip on stands that will hopefully let me stand this right on top of my cases in a fairly upright angle/position.
I prefer the immediacy of controlling drums from the Robaux LL8 than the BSP even if the programing of the BSP is nicer.

I was in Dance-mode in the 90's, I think all things music and design peaked in the 90's and we've never really improved after that.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hi,
If you buy them in the exact size you will have the advantage of having the fit for the cable tab.
Ferran.


also there's no problem buying longer ones and cutting them to size... you may lose a pin or 2 though... often the 40pin lengths are only a little bit more expensive than 8 pin or 10 pin... pitch is usually 2.54mm... mouser, tayda, rme, farrell all regularly stocck them...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


nice would love to see more videos about the different functions

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Nice Acid Jam. (Every time I listen to this kind of music today, I go back 35 years to the time of K7s, and the ‘Second Summer of Love’ :)
TB-O and TB-EFA sound great. But I also enjoyed the percussion and the use you make of it.
Small question that has nothing to do... On which support did you put the BSP? A music stand, an articulated support?

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


Hi,
If you are referring to the power bus connectors, they are IDC type connectors, you will find them in any online electronics store.

Best regards,


I'm trying to finish an Erica DIY Delay (not BBD Delay). Parts are discontinued everywhere. I've found most parts except for the female headers that were not included with the MCU.

Erica Synths doesn't reply to any emails.

Does anyone know the part numbers of the two types of headers, a 8-pin (x2) and 10-pin (x1) and where I might purchase them ?


I'm using Firefox and I have it set to auto-clear history with "strict" protections, but I made sure not to clear cookies or cache with this site. Also using Safari on private mode on my phone but still happens on either browser.


Which browser are you using?
-- modulargrid

I've been using the latest version of Safari


Which browser are you using?

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


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Patch based around the Geosync TB-O and TB-EFA sequenced from the Beatsteop pro and then an accent sequence from the Steppy, Steppy also does a patern through an LPG for a secondary sequence which is de-coupled from the Pitches of the main 303 sequence but the TB-O is the the only VCO.

Thanks for listening.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Agree with Sweelinck, you have a lot covered with your choice of modules. Maybe an O_c to give you some more options on quantizing, sequencing, LFOs? Also maybe replace one of the granulars with an ES-9 and tap into VCVRack and it's endless options. What kind of stuff do you like doing with it?


Stay basic, build the signal path. For a true "polytimbral" you need vco, filter/lpg, an envelope and a vca/lpg for each voice.


Yes I've been having the same issue. I've even had some of my racks be completely emptied for seemingly no reason, Im assuming its a bug. I close the tab, come back to it a few hours latter and poof everything is gone. If im luckly the last two modules I added will still be there


This one yeah?
ModularGrid Rack
-- wishbonebrewery

Yeah, that one!


hi guys, I'm turning to you because every time I try to design a minimal system I end up with a 104HP 9U... I know it's difficult but I would like a polytimbral synth (digital + analog oscillators) with at least a mono and a stereo / dual filter , stereo effects, modulations, utilities... I'd like to know what you think. These are perhaps all the modules I'm considering, I'd like to eliminate a lot of stuff or replace it with something smaller or with more functions in the same HP size. I can exclude a sequencer because I would like to write sequences on the digitakt and then send them to the modular via midi-to-cv (through a module with at least two different cv/gate out)
some of my still unanswered questions:
* Qu-bit prism or Behringer dual VCF? I have a Mimeophon so I already have an excellent delay, Prism costs more than behringer 172 + 121+ Doepfer waveshaper and I think I would get it with these other modules...even if they would take up a lot more HP and I would have to give up higpass and bandpass.
* Maths + Dual Env or just one function generator + Dual Env?
* I already have Behringer 921 and Surface, what other sound source would you add? I was also thinking for budget reasons about another Behringer analog oscillator but I'm open to other suggestions, especially on digital ones that aren't too "menu-divey".


So lately I've been rearranging modules on my modular and whenever I'd take a screenshot or reload the page it always seems to mess up the layout, relocating and/or hiding them underneath others, or even getting placed outside the rack. Anyone else been having this issue recently?


I don't think my hands could fit in there to tweak all of those little knobs, but I'd be interested to hear some sounds from it. Share a demo tune!


This tiny but flexible system has everything you need for a solid live set. There are a lot of fun possibilities here due to most of the modules having multiple modes. Patch each channel of grids into one of the three voices - they all have built in VCAs! The CV from Water can be attenuated then quantized by O_C. Use the Quadratt as your mixer, and patch the Navigator to MFX for great performable rises to build and release tension. Tymp legio works great as a kick that can be turned into a marimba or something else with the switches, and can pass through audio for sidechain ducking.

This will fill up every power slot of an intellijel palette, which has 2 buffered mults not shown here. Get some dusty clouds black panels for the intellijel 1U for a totally blacked-out system.

You could swap out the Water for a Mimetic Digitalis if you give up the 2HP attenuator.


Your setup seems quite comprehensive. One could perhaps imagine some complementary Lfo modulation source, possibly more 'disturbing' (Ochd, Diode Chaos, Triple Sloths...) or other modules. But obviously this is not really the fundamental problem.

Fluctuations in inspiration are things that commonly happen. And they are not always dependent on the musical equipment. Advice: recharge your energy within the music you love. Then resume your work from these bases. Reflect about how to reproduce some references in your own way. All the creators, whether in music or in other fields, all including the most admirable and innovative, have started from what already exists, then appropriating things their own way.

PS: and take your time to experiment... sometimes also without thinking too much! Venture, avoid only out > out :))

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


This one yeah?
ModularGrid Rack

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hey all,
I'm feeling less than inspired with my rack, and I've spent more of my time than I care to admit, trying to find out how to best get more out of my rack, while not throwing thousands more dollars into a money pit. The more modules I sit down to try and learn about, and the more ways I figure out how to theoretically come up with a better system, none of it seems really wow me. I find myself still kind of sitting in bewildered confusion, and idk what I'm doing wrong.
A few of my modules I know I need to learn and understand more, but I still am not getting that "surprise" out of modular that I was hoping for. Of finding ways to patch things together that gives me something I wasn't planning on. While I can use my modular to further songs I currently have, I find myself constantly patching in the same ways. I'm unsure if it is just the fact that I need to spend more time actually using my modular, or if there's something that I'm completely missing; or the "dreaded" option that I just need more modules and parts. (And as stated, just looking and seeing HOW many different pieces and bits there are, it feels beyond daunting)
Apart from this case, I also have a Keystep Pro, a WMD Geiger Counter, and a Noise Engineering Loquelic Iteritas.

Any and all advice is immensely appreciated. I still feel like I'm a modular noob, finding their leggings, despite the fact that I've been in modular for about two years now.
Many thanks in advance for the help!

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Thanks!


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ah ok, well you have an interesting project ahead of you, I wish you all the best with it.


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You need to start with an understanding of a basic signal path and routing in a subtractive synth. lfo - vco, filter, envelope, vca

Another type of setup would be additive, look up those concepts, read about them:

Subtractive, additive, wavetables, granular and wave slicing methods, Physical modeling, AM, FM, TZFM,,,,,read, listen, think and learn.

-- GunnarWaage

I'm familiar with all of these things, I've been working in VCV rack and MAX/MSP for almost 2 years and I've done plenty of research throughout that time. It's just that personally, when it comes to things like this I get somewhat anxious and feel like I need to know what I'm doing isn't wrong, so I want advice from people more knowledgeable than me. That said I have researched everything I've picked out at the moment and feel good about them, I just want to ensure that nothing is wrong before I devote so much time and money to them. I don't view it as people making the choice for me, I look at their ideas and spend time researching them and decide what to do after that.


Thread: Rack Advice

You need to start with an understanding of a basic signal path and routing in a subtractive synth. lfo - vco, filter, envelope, vca

Another type of setup would be additive, look up those concepts, read about them:

Subtractive, additive, wavetables, granular and wave slicing methods, Physical modeling, AM, FM, TZFM,,,,,read, listen, think and learn.

I have never asked for advice on what modules to get and I will not offer it either. With your basic understanding of the signal flow, you then read about and listen to all the modules available at a given moment.

Compare sound, functions, ease or difficulty in operating them and ask youself, will they give you the result you are hearing or want to hear. Since you are going DIY you can afford to get a relatively stronger setup.

The rule is, don't look for complicating your setup, find out which are the building blocks of a functioning system. Do the study and don't ask people to make those choices for you, you'll be taking the enjoyment out of it that comes with study and hard work, enjoy the process.


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@Sweelinck's link above directs to the same image as displayed...

things I'd point out - the chord organ might be difficult to source... the teensy 3.2 is very difficult to find (probably end of lifed)

and the instruo ceis is quite expensive - you might want to look at the befaco vc adsr & it couldt be a good alternative and is available as a kit (or pcb/panel set)

-- JimHowell1970

Weird, it linked to the old one when I tried it out earlier, I've got very spotty wifi right now that's probably why. Thanks for the reccomendation, I'd rather do a kit anyways and cheaper is always nice.
I've also found a near exact dupe of the chord organ but updated to the newer teensy, though im struggling to find it again so maybe i made it up in my head.


Hello, Stefano! KAIROS has completely independent outputs. Regardless of which output mode you choose, it will still be free. However, you can link different outputs to make them work together, such as CV note and gate.


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@Sweelinck's link above directs to the same image as displayed...

for future reference copy & paste the url...

things I'd point out - the chord organ might be difficult to source... the teensy 3.2 is very difficult to find (probably end of lifed)

and the instruo ceis is quite expensive - you might want to look at the befaco vc adsr & it couldt be a good alternative and is available as a kit (or pcb/panel set)

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


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Okay so I've added quite a bit, I'm wondering if anything is too redundant, and if anyone has any other ideas to fill it out. Since it's a school project I'm going to be completing it slowly over the course of the year, and probably won't even have all the modules at that time, it's going to be a slower process. With that said what should I be prioritizing? The sloth chaos and ai001 multiple are definitely going to be first as I'm DIYing them, and I think I'll try and get the morphagene after that, because the whole point is very textured, sample heavy sounds. Beyond those I'm not sure the order I should get modules in.![]


interesting...but I wonder using it as a sequencer: if I use an output like "cv note" is it free or does it automatically have another output like "gate"? please show some more video