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I agree with 33PO's recommendations and would also add Schlappi Engineering.
Good luck and have fun!

Some makers to check out:
Noise Engineering
x1l3
Error Instruments
Eowave
Animal Factory Amplification
Bastl/Casper

I think it's expensive,

---wild

but that wasn't the question. The question is, why with the update, I can't move small modules on the grid easily and now it's a nightmare? Nobody answered that, or if there's a solution.
-- japanmania

---Jim did. Put smaller modules to the side and fill with the bigger ones until the spacing is correct. Then they pop right in.

Good thing we have the Machine Elves tirelessly working behind the scenes. For free. They don't eat or sleep and don't have anything else to do.

Hi all, my first post after years of lurking!
So I'm finally dipping into hardware after years of working in the box, and I've been fascinated by Eurorack for the last two years. If you'll indulge me, a little background - I used to play drums in a grindcore band in my teens and early twenties and have since dabbled in harsh noise/electronics. I spent a while trying to marry grindcore and chiptune... most of what I've produced could really not be called music. I want to create a quite unhinged Eurorack setup but don't really know where to start. I mean if pushed most of the popular modules could make a mess of noise, but I'm looking for modules that are a little off the wall. I want something that can actually produce music (I do also dabble in synthwave and darksynth so I'm not totally amusical) but requires work or coralling if that makes sense. I'm also fascinated by random generative approaches, but not entirely sure if that would work with a rack full of weirdness. But basically I'm just asking for fairly harsh, unpredictable and weird modules.

Given the contstraints and outboard FX here's a 62hp palette that I would find fun with tons of modulation and a lot of creative ways to patch

Starting from top left 1u row:
midi to get clocks, CV and gates from Syntakt
Steppy for 4 chan of step sequencing
Att (2x) to tame some CV levels
Stereo out to connect to the case outputs

3u row:
Pam's Pro Workout for clocks, LFO and all the magic of Pams
Mimetic Digitales for stepped modulation
Scales to tame CV modulation into notes
Plaits (clone) has the most sonic variety of any oscillator
FILThy looks like a good multi-mode filter and sticks with the After Later Audio theme
Stages (clone) packs a ton of features into a single module - LFO, Envelopes, Step Sequencer and even an Oscillator easter egg mode
dVCA is a good dual VCA

(preveiw is currently showing an earlier version with Maths that would also be fun - Wasp looks like it might be too deep for the case. click through for the updated rack)

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I think it's expensive

seriously... 7 cents a day to support this fantastic platform?

I have no idea what else you can do for 7 cents a day - not a great deal!!!

I'm confused, I have a free account, but I just checked and I can move 2 HP and 4 HP modules around, no problem. What browser are you using?

I think it's expensive, but that wasn't the question. The question is, why with the update, I can't move small modules on the grid easily and now it's a nightmare? Nobody answered that, or if there's a solution.

Discovering any Bugs? Post here!
-- modulargrid

There is a Lazy fly in our home office, its probably going to die as its that time of year.................

It seems like the total price of grids dissapeared. Maybe intentional. Just wanted to mention it.
-- ambientvalent

have you checked your user settings? there's a switch in there to turn them on and off!

I thin the Pamela Pro Workout is a great Option. Instead of the Cosmotronic Delta for Envelopes / VCA would you think that the Javelin from WMD or the Sinc Bucina from NE might be also a good choice? Both modules are smaller and it would safe some space.

+1 on pams - personally I like to keep envelopes and vcas separate... more modular - if you want to replace the envelope or the vca you can without replacing the other... also a combined env/vca may be hardwired - so no using hte envelope for something other than the vca and no using the vca with something else to open it... not sure if this applies to whatever - I'd also recommend getting more vcas than you think you need - always useful for cv as well as audio...

AI is a fine choice. Plaits will have more algorithms and cover more sonic territory

Currently I also thinking replacing it with the Manis Iteritas, but I guess that is just preference and both will do great.

both have these have been dsicontinued due to the micro-processor used being discontinued - buy asap to avoid disappointment!

Ghost would be a great all-in-one choice for a small system. It's able to do all these FX at once, plus it has VCA and Filter built in.

I am wondering if I even need a dedicated FX section. My current plan is couple the rack with my Elektron Syntakt and will route the audio from it into the Syntakt. Syntakt has a dedicated FX processor with reverb, delay and sort of overdrive. You can even implement ducking here since my percussion will come from the Syntakt. Moreover, I have some effect pedals for guitar lying around like a Fuzz, Reverb or Flanger. So I could apply FX to the synth voice outside of the rack and give it some more character. Or am I missing something?

guitar pedals are great for modular - best to get a pedal interface module, though - so that the levels and impedence match - there are small inexpensive 2hp ones - AI synthesis for example - and much bigger ones, sometimes with more features, which you may or may not find useful... if your pedals have expression pedal inputs - then the ALM SBG is a good buy as this includes an expression pedal output... the only disadvantage of pedals over modules is that modules are easier to modulate with CV... which may or may not be important to you...

as I stated previously I don't have experience with Elektron devices - but make sure that the inputs can cope with the levels you are inputting... modular is very high and pedals are generally very low...

@33PO Thank you so much for your suggestion.

Mimetic Digitales and Steppy go great together like peanutbutter and jelly. Add a quantizer like Intellijel Scales and you'll have plenty of stepped modulation plus good control turning stepped CV into notes

Absolutely, the Scales seems to be a great option here.

1 - Pam's Pro Workout for Clocks, LFO, Random + Cosmotronic Delta for Envelopes / VCA

I thin the Pamela Pro Workout is a great Option. Instead of the Cosmotronic Delta for Envelopes / VCA would you think that the Javelin from WMD or the Sinc Bucina from NE might be also a good choice? Both modules are smaller and it would safe some space.

AI is a fine choice. Plaits will have more algorithms and cover more sonic territory

Currently I also thinking replacing it with the Manis Iteritas, but I guess that is just preference and both will do great.

Ghost would be a great all-in-one choice for a small system. It's able to do all these FX at once, plus it has VCA and Filter built in.

I am wondering if I even need a dedicated FX section. My current plan is couple the rack with my Elektron Syntakt and will route the audio from it into the Syntakt. Syntakt has a dedicated FX processor with reverb, delay and sort of overdrive. You can even implement ducking here since my percussion will come from the Syntakt. Moreover, I have some effect pedals for guitar lying around like a Fuzz, Reverb or Flanger. So I could apply FX to the synth voice outside of the rack and give it some more character. Or am I missing something?

Thank you all so much for your input! This is exactly what I needed to see the flaws in my thought process ;) It is easy to loose yourself in all the information provided everywhere and I really want to make sure I don't condense this into garbage that does not work well with each other haha. I think a main focus should be on the fact that the (bass) monosynth I am trying to create here has all the moving parts it needs and secondly that these parts are complimenting each other. I think the latter is something I am struggling most with. I will put some more thought into this and share an updated version again. Looking forward for your very helpful and honest feed back :)

+1 for everything Jim suggested

The modules selected are all fine separately, but don't seem like a great compliment in a small system.

Let me go through my thought process in this setup:
Sequencing: I want to use steppy and mimiteic digitalis since I love what people are doing with the combination, this is what really got me hooked into planning and building my own modular synth in the first place

Mimetic Digitales and Steppy go great together like peanutbutter and jelly. Add a quantizer like Intellijel Scales and you'll have plenty of stepped modulation plus good control turning stepped CV into notes

Clock: I have the Horlogic Solum in here for clocking, wich seems to have nice capabilities of also splitting the clock
LFO: Clep Diaz, but I am not 100% sure about it since the After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides can do LFO duties as well. Maybe you have some suggestions here.
Envelope: After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides

I'd drop these to make room for other modules. A couple of alternate suggestions.
1 - Pam's Pro Workout for Clocks, LFO, Random + Cosmotronic Delta for Envelopes / VCA
or
2 - Befaco Rampage for envelopes, LFO and has a ton of fun ways to cross-patch

Filter: After Later Audio Clone of MI Ripples

I'd remove this to make room for a multi-FX + filter (see Reverb/Delay/Distorsion below)

Voice: Noise Engineering AI since I like what people do with it. Still I am not sure if I also should have a second Oscillator in here, maybe a simpler one?

AI is a fine choice. Plaits will have more algorithms and cover more sonic territory

Reverb/Delay/Distortion: Noise Engineering Versio since it is flexible with the Firmware and sounds really cool.

Ghost would be a great all-in-one choice for a small system. It's able to do all these FX at once, plus it has VCA and Filter built in.

This is just my opinion. The great thing about modular is everyone can build a system exactly how they like it and everyone is going to like different things.

The best advice is to start slow and get a few modules at a time and learn how everything works together (and get a bigger case than you think you need) :D

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It seems like the total price of grids dissapeared. Maybe intentional. Just wanted to mention it.

I don't think the unicorn account is particularly expensive... it's 7 cents a day... and you don't have to pay if you don't want to, for whatever reason...
-- JimHowell1970

I always agree with you, Jim. And this is no exception!

I always dump smaller modules out to the side and then rearrange the larger ones, so that the gaps are in the right places for the small ones...

I don't think the unicorn account is particularly expensive... it's 7 cents a day... and you don't have to pay if you don't want to, for whatever reason...

Hello, I just realized it's incredible difficult to move 2 and 4 hp modules in the grid. Neved happened before. It's super unconfortable to edit any grid, and I paid this service many years. Is there any trick to move them easily? And I don't mean with the left and right arrow. I think this should be solved fast. The service is not cheap and we pay it yearly. Thanks in advance.

Hi there,

I am planning a new rack that is aimed at minimal, monophonic techno basslines (and maybe leads). A brief disclaime, I know this is a small 62HP setup and there will be folks here that scream go bigger, but thats not the point of this setup. It is not supposed to be a standalone do-it-all solution. I want it to become a piece in my setup that is great a doing good and interesting basslines that I can keep evolving. I want to couple it with an Elektron Syntakt that takes care of all drum/percussion duties and the main clock. I hope you can help me figure out if I am missing a crucial part in this setup or should replace some modules against more versatile modules.

Let me go through my thought process in this setup:
Sequencing: I want to use steppy and mimiteic digitalis since I love what people are doing with the combination, this is what really got me hooked into planning and building my own modular synth in the first place
Clock: I have the Horlogic Solum in here for clocking, wich seems to have nice capabilities of also splitting the clock
LFO: Clep Diaz, but I am not 100% sure about it since the After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides can do LFO duties as well. Maybe you have some suggestions here.
Envelope: After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides
Filter: After Later Audio Clone of MI Ripples
Voice: Noise Engineering AI since I like what people do with it. Still I am not sure if I also should have a second Oscillator in here, maybe a simpler one?
Reverb/Delay/Distortion: Noise Engineering Versio since it is flexible with the Firmware and sounds really cool.

Am I missing something crucial in my setup or do you see any breaking points or parts that do not move together? Any suggestion is welcome! Please keep in mind that I am fully aware of the size limitation but this is also my personal preference and maybe a way of challenging myself.

Thanks a lot! :)

current rack iteration
-- kvnlxm

Looking at this rack, it's clear you have been watching Ihor viddys

Hi there,

actual link to the rack and not just a crappy jpg:

I am planning a new rack that is aimed at minimal, monophonic techno basslines (and maybe leads). A brief disclaime, I know this is a small 62HP setup and there will be folks here that scream go bigger, but thats not the point of this setup. It is not supposed to be a standalone do-it-all solution. I want it to become a piece in my setup that is great a doing good and interesting basslines that I can keep evolving. I want to couple it with an Elektron Syntakt that takes care of all drum/percussion duties and the main clock. I hope you can help me figure out if I am missing a crucial part in this setup or should replace some modules against more versatile modules.

Normally I'd be advocating a much bigger rack, however as you are being mission specific... I'd probably go a bit bigger though! maybe the next size up pallete.. just so you have a bit of space for some utilities... they will add a lot of versatility to your patching for not a lot more cash...

Let me go through my thought process in this setup:
Sequencing: I want to use steppy and mimiteic digitalis since I love what people are doing with the combination, this is what really got me hooked into planning and building my own modular synth in the first place

hmmm - I'm not convinced of these modules... steppy is a trigger sequencer - ie very short pulses - not gates, which is generally what you want for envelopes... (some envelopes will work with triggers - make sure you have an envelope generator that can be triggered and not gated) & mimetic digitalis does not have a quantizer built in - which is fine, if you want to make non-12tet music, or you have an external quantizer, which you don't...

also as you have the midi module - I'd just take clock & pitch/gate sequencing from that - Syntakt can sequence pitch & gate as well as drums can't it??? idk I've never used any elektron gear!

Clock: I have the Horlogic Solum in here for clocking, wich seems to have nice capabilities of also splitting the clock

How are you intending to clock this? & what are you intending to trigger with the divided clock - there's not really enough to warrent it in the rack imo

LFO: Clep Diaz, but I am not 100% sure about it since the After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides can do LFO duties as well. Maybe you have some suggestions here.
Envelope: After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides

I would suggest you need both of these or at least both lfos and an envelope... personally I'd rather have more lfos and a single, simpler, smaller envelope (that can be triggered) - I'd also want attenuverters & offsets for the lfos - but tides can also be used as a vco...

Filter: After Later Audio Clone of MI Ripples

decent choice... if a bit vanilla... a wasp might be a better bet, as it would add grit, but might not fit in the case

Voice: Noise Engineering AI since I like what people do with it. Still I am not sure if I also should have a second Oscillator in here, maybe a simpler one?

maybe, but then you'rre running out of space & you'd need a mixer...

Reverb/Delay/Distortion: Noise Engineering Versio since it is flexible with the Firmware and sounds really cool.

remember you can only do 1 of these at a time... and have to take it out of the case & reflash to swap which sounds like a pain to me... personally I'd want at least 2 of reverb/delay/distortion (if not handled elsewhere)

so yeah.. you're missing some things & duplicating some things... I'd have a serious think about these things before parting with cash, if I were you

Hi there,

I am planning a new rack that is aimed at minimal, monophonic techno basslines (and maybe leads). A brief disclaime, I know this is a small 62HP setup and there will be folks here that scream go bigger, but thats not the point of this setup. It is not supposed to be a standalone do-it-all solution. I want it to become a piece in my setup that is great a doing good and interesting basslines that I can keep evolving. I want to couple it with an Elektron Syntakt that takes care of all drum/percussion duties and the main clock. I hope you can help me figure out if I am missing a crucial part in this setup or should replace some modules against more versatile modules.

Let me go through my thought process in this setup:
Sequencing: I want to use steppy and mimiteic digitalis since I love what people are doing with the combination, this is what really got me hooked into planning and building my own modular synth in the first place
Clock: I have the Horlogic Solum in here for clocking, wich seems to have nice capabilities of also splitting the clock
LFO: Clep Diaz, but I am not 100% sure about it since the After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides can do LFO duties as well. Maybe you have some suggestions here.
Envelope: After Later Audio Clone of MI Tides
Filter: After Later Audio Clone of MI Ripples
Voice: Noise Engineering AI since I like what people do with it. Still I am not sure if I also should have a second Oscillator in here, maybe a simpler one?
Reverb/Delay/Distortion: Noise Engineering Versio since it is flexible with the Firmware and sounds really cool.

Am I missing something crucial in my setup or do you see any breaking points or parts that do not move together? Any suggestion is welcome! Please keep in mind that I am fully aware of the size limitation but this is also my personal preference and maybe a way of challenging myself.

Thanks a lot! :)

current rack iteration

Some tricks and ideas for combining the one-of-a-kind Buchla Music Easel with your Eurorack modular gear.
Detailed patch notes in the video:

have fun, mau5! :^)

Google Chrome will translate the page to English for me. Also Signal Sounds in the UK has it in stock.

EDITED Oct 12th 2023, 22:01

Thank you :)
I am in Spain and have no clue about custom/import tax on ordering from the USA.
Will have a look at it.
Many thanks again for pointing it out.
L

shows as 'In Stock' at Perfect Circuit...

https://www.perfectcircuit.com/hikari-atten-mixer.html

Hi all,
I am trying to source this module from Hikari Instruments: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/hikari-instruments-atten-mixer
Link provided goes to a Japanese website:
1) http://hikari-ins.shop-pro.jp/?pid=111120649
Not so gifted with internet and willing to know if there is a way to trnslate the page or is it a no go.
Any help or guidance very welcome and appreciated, as always.
Best,
Loersatz

Thank you very much for your very detailed listening, Sweelinck. A funny story about the note that you mentioned is that I had problems with the power of the case, and when I arrived at the rehearsal the pitch was extremely unstable. Thanks God I solved it for the concert, but it was really tragic as you can imagine!

Again, thanks for listening, reading and paying so much attention; I feel honored.

Vult will be releasing a Eurorack version of their Caudal VCVRack module soon - it's like a better Triple Sloths and has two S/H outs. O_c has various awesome quantizer features that allows you to scale mask, CV rotate those maskes, linear shift register and CV shifts to other scales. Befaco a*b+c is awesome for 'tuning' your CV, or maybe add some cheap 1u Duatts for the same purpose.

EDITED Oct 12th 2023, 15:46

The 5V power consumption for this module is intense - Had to upgrade my whole system to cope with it...
beware!

As I have already commented elsewhere, this is not only a superb work, it’s also an innovation, a first it seems to me (in any case, I know of no equivalent of such strong association between the universe of the classical orchestra and the world of modular; even less at the concert).

This association is fabulous. As these extraordinary encounters between the classical orchestra and other instrumental universes such as that of the great organs (for example we can listen again to the 3rd symphony by Camille Saint-Saëns).

Listen to this fusion between the timbre of the orchestra’s instruments and the modular synthesizer. Just one example:
After an introduction that develops till a nearly apocalyptic level and ends with two powerful orchestral punctuations (we can listen to them from 5:10), then emerges a very simple and modest note held by the oscillator of a Dixie II+ (note born from the second tutti and revealed around 5:30). This note is joined by the clarinet (at 7:45) then gradually, step by step, developed by other instruments and sections of the orchestra (*).

The modular is an orchestra, the orchestra is a modular!

(*) This passage evokes the famous note held (a B), played by the bassoon and emerging from the final chord of the first movement of Mendelssohn’s violin concerto in E minor, then introducing the second movement by evolving towards a C.

I allow myself to place here the whole video of this performance.

In addition, I encourage everyone to read this very relevant reflection of Luis about the modular synthesizer.
‘We don’t need more synthesizers: we need discipline’ https://coderapuzo.com/synthsanddiscipline/
This will echo many debates here...

Very simple one today, a passive 3 input/output mute. But since I'm committed to building every kit on the planet, nothing gets left out.
Very quick build, vid is only 12 minutes long.
Could be very handy when you want to bring things in and out of a mix without having to mess with (and remember) volume settings or whatever. And very narrow at 2 HP, so an easy fit.
Build

A short documentary about my upcoming ambient LP 'Etudes', recorded with eurorack modular and out in November.
Pre-order: https://yalivec.bandcamp.com/album/etudes

MUR#03 was created in relation to the overture of R. Wagner's opera Das Rheingold, which is performed without interruption immediately afterwards. This aspect reflects the need to conceive the concert not as an arbitrary collection of pieces, but as a global listening process that goes beyond the sum of its parts. MUR#03 is not a rewriting, reinterpretation, or reuse of any motifs or materials from Das Rheingold. The relationship lies simply in the fact that it is intended to be performed before the piece, in the same way a programmer plans the sequence of pieces in a concert. This is by no means a minor relationship.ç

Here is a small excerpt:

Full video on my youtube channel

Nice work.

One module I've had a lot of fun with is the WORNG Vector Space. It acts kind of like a matrix mixer in that it takes three modulation sources and uses them to create a variety of other modulations. It is a big module, though.

Hello, this is a test. Please see the google drive folder & doc for more info on this modular system.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1q8Zd79Hz0tkEOLvNcboOgp0RW5UQJO6O?usp=drive_link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hNrk9BDAApzl8hs-AFjV2AvK1UZxxqeT9Fhap5NMcxM/edit?usp=sharing
-jd

An ambientish track made with Reason 12 sequencing RYK Vector Wave, Beanjelly, Instruo Ts-L & Mangrove. Patch details in the video description. Thanks for watching.

(...) triple sloths is good - especially when combined (via a matrix mixer, perhaps) with other modulation sources... a quad lfo (or envelope generator) like batumi or zadar is great (especially with the expanders)...

-- JimHowell1970

To add unpredictability, disturbances, Zadar + Nin is really a good tool. In ‘loop mode’ (‘repeat parameter’ set to infinity), plus the two assignable CVs on some chosen parameters (e.g. Warp, Time), the results are amazing. Here a link to have a look at the Zadar basic envelope shapes: http://xaocdevices.com/manuals/xaoc_zadar_chart_2.0.pdf

qu-bit is releasing a new granular module "Mojave"

It seems to be not a delay and focused on granular live processing.
But it seems to be inspired by beads.

to me it seems very heavy on sound sources and modifiers - light on modulayion sources & utilities...

see my signature for firther details and food for thought!
-- JimHowell1970

Are there any in particular that you'd suggest, looking at my system?
-- SlunkLord

matrix mixers are always great, sequential switches, logic, clock dividers, sample and hold...

triple sloths is good - especially when combined (via a matrix mixer, perhaps) with other modulation sources... a quad lfo (or envelope generator) like batumi or zadar is great (especially with the expanders)...

if you haven't already download the 'maths illustrated supplement' and work your way through it many times - always thinking about what, why & how...

Tides has been great and I am not selling it. For now, it will just go into my 4ms Pod. It was one of the first 3 modules I got. Now I have plenty of other modulation sources that I didn't then.

don't forget tides is also a great sound source!!

tbh - I've sold very few modules - I just add cases!

I'm mostly interested in sound design and having controllable unpredictability. To clarify more on the latter point, I like being able to control sequences and get out what I put in, but I find myself wanting ways to change up patterns and scales, I want to be able to set certain parameters, but still have my modular be able to give me things I don't expect. I suppose something like the Trigger Riot might be more up my alley for that, but I'm just super hesitant at this point.
-- SlunkLord

A module I just got that I am in love with right now is Joranalogue Route 4 which does, in a very simple way, exactly what you want to do here. I have been using it to change up both patterns and scales with the simple flicks of the latching switches. It has the 1V precision add to each of the outputs on the top portion which when you use along with a quantized input (or even combine up to 4) you can make changes super quickly to your original pattern.

Here is a video from Bries actually using it this way. I don't have a Step 8 but I do have a Muxlicer. You don't need either of these modules to make the Route 4 shine either as I've been messing with quite a few different modules with gate, log, eoc, eor, outs.

to me it seems very heavy on sound sources and modifiers - light on modulayion sources & utilities...

see my signature for firther details and food for thought!
-- JimHowell1970

Are there any in particular that you'd suggest, looking at my system?

Agree with Sweelinck, you have a lot covered with your choice of modules. Maybe an O_c to give you some more options on quantizing, sequencing, LFOs? Also maybe replace one of the granulars with an ES-9 and tap into VCVRack and it's endless options. What kind of stuff do you like doing with it?
-- Manbearpignick

I'm mostly interested in sound design and having controllable unpredictability. To clarify more on the latter point, I like being able to control sequences and get out what I put in, but I find myself wanting ways to change up patterns and scales, I want to be able to set certain parameters, but still have my modular be able to give me things I don't expect. I suppose something like the Trigger Riot might be more up my alley for that, but I'm just super hesitant at this point.
One of my eventual goals is to use modular in live performances, although at this point that is far down the road.

Thanks for the reply.

Tides has been great and I am not selling it. For now, it will just go into my 4ms Pod. It was one of the first 3 modules I got. Now I have plenty of other modulation sources that I didn't then. I have really wanted the Waver mixer for wavefolding for a while now but prioritized some other utilities that were more important first. The Ts-L sounds awesome and for such a small footprint it has a lot of wave outputs for just 6hp.

If I get rid of the Tymp Legio, that space would be going to an Intellijel Mixup or Befaco STMix. I am also contemplating using that extra HP, intead of mixer, upgrading to better filter. I am in no rush to fill space either so that can wait. Parting with Tymp Legio is only because those funds can pretty much get me the Waver or Ts-L I know would get more use.

EDITED Oct 10th 2023, 18:59

For a rack not focused on drums and wanting this system to be completely self contained, would you get rid of the Tymp Legio?

probably...

I currently have MI Tides but will be removing that module to make room for the Waver and the Ts-L V2.
-- ShoutingParrot

why? - tides rocks (both versions)

along with what everyone else has said...

for guitar and bass input - most people want envelope following and gate extraction rather than pitch... as this is usually poor... the disting ex is one of the best at it though apparantly - I've not tried any pitch extraction, especially the b-cpompany module - but I do use envelope followerrs and gate extraction...

I have a very strong feeling that the 921B vco needs a 921A to actually work properly - do your research on this...

I never recommend either b-company or synthrotek on ethical grounds - don't support biggots!

strongly agree with the pam's suggestion - and not convinced a clock multiplier is a great thing - better to have a faster clock and divide - than a slower clock and multiply - especially if you want accurate timing (unless you are always going to use a very steady clock)

I'd go for less voices and more utilities - see my signature for hints - more versatility in patching for less expense...

doepfer and ladik are both solid and inexpensive (especially for utilities) and worth supporting as companies...

not convinced you need 2 dual ADSR modules... I'd lose 1 to make room for something more interetsing...

adefinitely a veils clone and a full size plaits clone over the b-company versions - After Later Audio and others make them and are worth supporting!

I'd also start with a minimum viable synth a single sound source, a single sound modifier, a modulation source (I like maths from Make Noise - another company worth supporting), a way to play and a way to listen plus some utilities - a quad cascading vca (veils) can be used as a mono output (& input for that matter - with disting ex for pitch/envelope following & maybe gate extraction - again a company worth supporting)

Check out Intellijels Rainmaker. I have both Beads and Mimeophon, and theyre awesome, but the Rainmaker is on a whole other level. Its a bit pricier than the others but its a super textured delay powerhouse.

-- anelekt

I would love Rainmaker I just don't have the room for it 😭

If you need an accurate and powerful Delay module, I think it’s better to differentiate specialized modules like Dual Looping Delay (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/4ms-company-dual-looping-delay), or Chronoblob2 (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alright-devices-chronoblob2) for example, and all those whose function allows a mix of sound manipulations including more or less the Delay function (like Beads, excellent module by the way, or Mimeophon).
-- Sweelinck

I hadn't considered that but it makes sense, I think in my case I'm looking for more of the variation and it seems like beads it is for now. Thanks!