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This will be my first rack. Tried to remain selective as I'm limited to 84 HP. Wondering if there are any glaring redundancies or key aspects to a useful system that aren't present. My goal is to have something that can spit out some riffs, a bassline, and maybe a drone/ ambient thing with a kick and snare. Ideally I'd also like to have some random glitch/ percussion capabilites. Plan on combining varigate with the niftycase's midi to CV interface. I'm aware that the ribbon in the niftycase only has 10 headers, but I plan to daisy-chain my way around that issue. Like I said, any opinions are welcome. Cheers everyone.
I just got the Mordax Data today and added it to my current 104hp rack with a Tiptop uZeus. When I powered it on I noticed the -12v LED was no longer lit on the uZeus. Looking at the total Power Consumption I figured I was ok as the totals are less than the specs on the uZeus (2000mA at +12V, 500mA at -12V, 170mA at +5V). Note that I have a regular $25 Tiptop wall wart.
So I unplugged the Mordax and the -12v LED went back on so my assumption is that I'm overloading the power supply. I then experimented a bit by removing different modules and I was able to get the set up to work as long as I removed the B-140 envelope module.
Are there any users who have more experience with power usage that can explain why the uZeus is unable to power the set up I have shown?
combination of comparator + envelope + vca with nice sounding gain/overdrive - this will allow you to make your own compressors. I much prefer this approach to dedicated compressor modules, none of which have really impressed me in euro-land.
I agree it is definitely a risk using f+f. However when you have 20-30 pain free transactions on a platform because the VAST majority of folks are honest and great people, it is easy to become complacent!
Reasons for a seller asking for f+f payments could include:
- no risk of dishonest buyer receiving the module then claiming it never arrived and making a paypal claim
- ability to list a module for a cheaper price (yes ~£5-10 really can make or break a sale sometimes especially when you’re trying to sell modules which aren’t that popular / hyped / glamorous)
There isn’t really an easy answer to this imho. Risks do exist for buyer AND seller. Other platforms such as reverb / ebay have some tools like integrated tracking so there is perhaps less risk. I have had WAY more success selling modules on those platforms than here, even if the price is higher to cover the ridiculously high fees. In the last 6 months I sold 20+ modules on those platforms but only 3 here despite trying. So maybe buyers overall prefer those platforms where the risk is at least mitigated.
Definitely favourite VCF is Favourite Avocado Toast by Crazy Chicken. Its more-than-a-filter, coz build in modulator and overdrive are quite unusual features in VCF-s. But they make Favourite Avocado Toast so unique in sound.
I like to use it in combination with analog oscillators for bass lines or midrange sounds)
Plaits is French, Twin Waves is Belgian.
I use Plaits, but Twin Waves is a ‘bloody little module’ with a lot of ‘little grey cells’ (so many great features) and it sounds absolutely wonderful!
I don't know how I haven't given in to temptation yet...
I'm a ‘bloody little frog’.
Thanks of course to the omnipresent Lugia! Also nice idea.
I myself have been hesitant to swap and combine my various microphones through the rack due to concerns about, of course, the phantom power. Could you give me a nutshell about PP and euro compatibility?
Even My SSL2+, which allegedly has two separate instances of PP, gives some confusing visual indicators about whether both channels may be susceptible momentarily. In this case I would probably end up getting a few more dynamic mics and a different interface/mixer for that purpose down the road, but I need some more info on how it works with euro before I wreck stuff!😢😁
Addendum: some additional searching shows a few interesting "trigger / gate addressable voltage" sources, none of which are solutions for the exact use case above, but all could fit in other somewhat similar use cases:
-- Random Source SEQ8 XL Serge Sequencer
-- SPUTNIK 5-STEP VOLTAGE SOURCE
-- Xodes PV44
(Capturing these here in case its of interest to anyone else.)
... all told, Verbos Sequence Selector (VSS) or a smaller HP/$ version of its selector function would be my best fit solution in this case. If you know of any great VSS alternatives, please let me know, thanks!
I can offer a little more explanation of what I'm looking for: let's say I have 4 input signals (audio or CV) 1234 and I'd like to output any 1 at a time. Yes a sequential switch would do that, and it would let me produce sequences like 1234, 2341, 3412, 4123. BUT that gives access to only 4 of 24 possible permutations of 1234 --> I'd like access to all 24, including things like 1324, 4132, etc. that can't be done easily with basic switches. A switch with CV-address like Doepfer A-152, BossBow2, or NE Vice Virga could access all potential permutations, but its driven by CV and would generally need to be CV sequenced to generate the flexible output I'm looking for. I have and use BossBow2, it's super, but it is not the right fit for this particular situation. Rather here, I'm looking to gain access to all sequential permutations of input signals, with selection driven by trigger or gate. Why? Because my trigger / gate sequencers are super hands on / intuitive / visual SO I'd love to get to use them in this type of setup and extend their functionality in my rig beyond the traditional use as perc triggers. Imagine hocketing anything in any pattern with the entire pattern immediately visible and touchable, controlled by Tiptop Circadian --> that's the type of outcome I'm looking for here. (BTW I'm updating the thread name to be hopefully more indicative of my interest here.)
Best fit trigger/gate controlled selector/switch I can find so far for these purposes is Verbos Sequence Selector (VSS): the setup is inputs to Signal Selector A (or B) and gate signal to Stage Select In. The bad news is VSS lists over $400, is 16HP, and this use case uses at most 30% of the module. SO I'm crossing my fingers it may be possible to find something that is basically the bottom half of VSS, with a lesser HP and $ footprint.
Net net, it's kind of a strange duck use case, and I'll go with VSS if there aren't lower HP / $s alternatives.
A few others come to mind here...there's ALM's Boss Bow Two, Klavis has the Mixwitch, Mystic Circuits' Tree, and Alyseum has their SELECTOR...which can be expanded to an utterly bonkers 64 I/Os.
One thing I'd note... as a Moskwa II owner, I can't imagine it without also adding the Ostankino expander... it adds so much functionality and fun. I'd suggest making room for that, if at all possible.
-- Shakespeare
Oddly enough, that came to mind when I was working out my variation, but I noted that the problem with adding that to the Moskwa II was that the Moskwa II was taking up the necessary space for its own "helper" module. Hate it when that happens...
There is a hidden advantage to the Klavis modules, though: size. It's as narrow as I would feel comfortable with using, but you get a dual VCO with quantizing in a mere 8 hp. You get a waveshaper in there, it can do additive, has internal ring modulation, a number of random operations (noise, variable LFO weirdness that includes Brownian movement models, etc). So, yeah...both the Plaits and the Twin Waves mkii are fairly complex, albeit with different architecture behind the panel.
I've certainly used them as processing devices. One installation work I put on back in 2000 used my Digisound 80 to the max...nonrepeating cyclical patterns of VCF sweeps, mixing various modulation CVs to create weird composite waveforms to filter processed shortwave audio.
One thing I'd note... as a Moskwa II owner, I can't imagine it without also adding the Ostankino expander... it adds so much functionality and fun. I'd suggest making room for that, if at all possible.
Go with Plaits. Plaits is a full voice that contains an internal Filter and VCA
Twin Waves is somewhat similar to the Erica Synths VCO. Both will need additional modules to shape the sound. Typically a VCO will be complimented with an Envelope Generator, Filter, VCA
The first company to produce synthesizers and electronic musical instruments for commercial purposes in Turkey, VAEMI (Volt Age Electronic Musical Instruments) has introduced Osi-Op, which is the first Eurorack module with high-quality Thru Zero FM and a different Waveshape feature. This module is made by combining through-hole quality components and it is handmade. Osi-OP, which we regard as an analog reflection of the new era of digital electronic music, is an analog and voltage-controlled oscillator module. It was designed in Eurorack format and it has a width of 14hp. It has Thru Zero FM Input and a Waveshape Output, which can be used for morphing, and these are two of the most important features of this product. From a first impression, it may look like an oscillator that is appropriate for subtractive synthesis. However, it was actually designed to be used for additive synthesis. Thanks to Thru Zero FM, this oscillator can regard oscillators with Sine Wave as analog operators. You can even prepare your synthesizer patch without using the classic subtractive resonant filter. The most important aspect of Thru Zero FM is that there is no tune drift when you increase the modulation rate. For this reason, Thru Zero attenuator (TZ FM potentiometer) can almost be used like a filter itself. In addition to Square, Saw, Triangle, and Square Sub oscillator outputs, it has a Sine Wave Output, which was designed with JFET transistors and has a very low distortion rate, and a Waveshape Output, which was designed with Sine-Triangle and can be used for morphing. It also has a Wave Shape Input. It is connected to this input via the Triangle Wave circuit board inside. Sine Wave is fixed on Wave Shape but you can forward it to the other WS Input by patching other waveforms, and you can morph between two waveforms. The pulse width of the Square Wave can be adjusted. The same knob is the morphing knob of the Waveshape Output. Since the oscillator has tempco, there is a 1V/OCT calibrated CV Input that is sensitive to heat. It can perfectly stay in tune up to 3.5 octaves. In addition, for FM, there are two separate CV Inputs, Exponential and Thru Zero. While Exponential FM CV Input can take all types of DC and AC voltages, Thru Zero FM CV Input can only be used for AC audio rate signals. Also, when you enter a waveform on Thru Zero FM CV Input, oscillators are soft-synced automatically. With 1V/OCT CV Input, you can adjust the frequency of the oscillator; and with Exponential FM CV Input, you can easily add an LFO or Envelope Generator. Square Wave Sub OSC Output, which is completely synced with fundamental frequency and can give an octave lower than the fundamental, will help you a lot to create strong modern synth-bass sounds. It is made with NOS integrated. When the oscillator is FM modulated, the Sub OSC never gets negatively affected by this modulation; and it can maintain giving the frequency clearly. You can also switch the oscillator to the LFO mode. You can create subtractive syntheses by using two or more of these oscillators or by mixing these waveforms. The main reason why this oscillator was designed, as its name shows, is to enable the creation of complex FM patches and sounds by using 2-3 or more of these oscillators, just like Operator FM. While Thru Zero FM increases the modulation, it can maintain giving the same frequency without losing the adjusted frequency; and you can add harmonics to the sound musically. The module has 5 knob controls, 4 CV Inputs, an input for Waveshaper, and 6 ±5V waveform outputs. Osi-OP, which is handmade and produced with the help of Through Hole technology, is a product consisting of electronic components that are carefully tested.
Technicial Specifications
Knob 1 - Tune
Knob 2 - Fine Tune
Knob 3 - Thru Zero FM
Knob 4 - Exponential FM
Knob 5 - Pulse Width Modulation / Waveshape Morphing
Founded in İstanbul in 2020 by the brothers Efe Çakır and Tunç Çakır, Vaemi is a company that produces electronic musical instruments and synthesizers. Vaemi aims to produce studio-quality analog devices, vacuum tube instruments and effects, logic synthesizers, small lo-fi synthesizers, and utility circuits. They make their own designs, and they are working on developing a new system.
While doing that, they also endeavor to revive the instruments and much-adored circuits, which have stayed hidden in progress from the past to the present day. In this ever-growing electronic equipment industry, they prefer through hole (DIP) technology over surface-mount technology for reasons such as its sound quality and longevity. They have their sights trained on transmitting their high-quality handmaid instruments, produced with well-selected components, to Turkey and every other country in the world for a reasonable price.
You can also check out the electromagnetic microphone called "El-Ma Orsted", and passive utility circuits (pATT, pLDR, pLPG, pMultiple) which they published earlier, on www.vaemi.net
with the tex-mix you can use the 2 mono sends as a stereo send to a single stereo effect (or effect chain) which is how it's set up on the stereo channels - this allows for a further stereo channel input to the mixer on the spare return - although you only get a volume control and not panning or mutes - nor access to the direct outs if you are using those
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
Klavis Twin Waves MKII vs mutable instruments plaits
I'm looking for something different as I have a Erics synths VCO planned - also have my Behringer Neutron
that can integrate to euro rack, - I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these two modules?
I use both mixers. They are excellent (and no noise problems on the StMix!).
My most frequent configuration: StMix and/or A-138s as sub-mixers (either of which can end up on a stereo effect: reverb, Data Bender, etc.), and the Black Stereo Mixer V3 as the final mixer before the Listen IO output module.
Some details differ (see the manuals) like a 5th input on the Befaco or the merge of mono channels on the Erica Synths.
The choice will depend on the context of use.
Befaco Stmix 4-Channel Stereo Mixer Module
Has anyone tested them - know what the befaco is like noise-wise?
-- converted
Not heard any noise. It's just the usual op amps in a mixer with only 1:1 amplification so would take some serious bad design choices to make it noisy.
Nice module. Using left input only gives you mono. Aux in is handy.
I’m not sure if these are exactly what you want, but I would suggest looking into Noise Engineering’s Vice Virga and WMD’s Sequential Switch Matrix as potential ways to get to where you want.
EDIT: Have you considered an arpeggiator that allows you to step through arpeggios with triggers? Shakmat Modular’s Bard Quartet accommodates four independent channels of this (the quantizer in for each channel becomes a trigger in). You can set the scale and arpeggiator pattern independently for each channel. It is also quite easy to switch between saved scales and edit the current one. Each channel can alternatively be used as a quantizer as well with the possibility of changing notes with a trigger at the gate in, which can be turned on or off for each channel.
I know this isn’t exactly what you were looking for, but perhaps you could get similar results, depending on what you’re going for.
There is also ADDAC System’s Intuitive Quantizer that allows you to trigger note changes for each of the four channels completely independently, but it doesn’t have many of the other nice features and UI that the Bard has.
I’m thinking mix your signals together (and adjust to taste at will), feed them into the quantizer, then trigger the note changes with the quantizer.
If this is going on a pedalboard, then I would DEFINITELY remove the DFAM. Those little controls stand a rather high possibility of getting broken down there. Plus, it's also a good idea to go larger, as well as adding the necessary support modules for this...
[pause for screwing around with build]
OK...I figured that if you can mash a Make Noise 104 skiff on there, it would be just about as easy to fit an Intellijel Palette 104. And that one change REALLY changes things up...
The tile row on this is largely taken up with pedal interface modules. You've got a stereo input, then two Ritual Electronics Pointeuses with their 1/4" input jacks. These can output triggers with a momentary ON pedal, allowing you to fire triggers at the LFOs or EGs at will. Next to those is the first of several Flexibilite expression pedal inputs, this one being paired with an attenuator for restricting the range for more precise control. It, and the four others after the attenuator, are the "meat" here...in total, you've got four strictly for controlling VCA output pairs so that you can mix the effects manually without having to mess with the controls while playing. And the stereo out after those, natch.
On the 3u row, things get interesting. First up is an envelope follower so that you can extract gate, trigger, and amplitude CV from incoming audio and route those most anywhere. I then added a Zadar/Nin so that you've got four envelopes...all of which will fire on receiving a trigger pulse. That feature works together with the Pointeuses so that you can fire envelopes at will, while keeping two other EGs in reserve for any other use. The MISO then lets you take modulation signals and mess with them...inversion, offsets, mixing, etc. I then slapped the Disting back into that zone, and followed it with a pair of Antumbra dual VCAs...these use the Veils topology which gives you an adjustable response range from linear to exponential, and there's several others in here, as you can see. Last of the modulation section is a Batumi/Poti set...and yes, the Pointeuses can work here, too, to reset LFO sync.
Then the fun begins. The very first Antumbra pair there is for your dry signal, then you've got a Beads for reverb or other granular weirdnesses. This one module is why I put in that extra Flexibilite expression pedal interface...loads of main controls there that can benefit from that. Then another dual VCA, followed by Alright's Chronoblob2, which is a stereo delay line with one weird trick: an insert point in the regen path. So, if you wanted, you could send/return another effect through that to alter the delay's behavior. Another Antumbra dual VCA, then Xaoc's new frequency shifter...that's super-optimal for phasing, flanging, tremolo, and to just mangle the crap out of signals. And again, dual VCA...and next to that is the mixer, which has four stereo inputs.
So how this works is as follows: your guitar signal comes in via the 1/4" jacks on the utility row (splitting a mono signal is a good idea here, if you need to), then the L goes to one mult in the ute row, and R goes to another. From these, you can split out your signal sends to the individual DSP modules. Then by using the four main Flexibilite pedals, you can MIX the different DSPs by foot by using the expression pedals as "faders" that control the dual VCAs. Then the signal passes through those VCAs and on to the quad stereo mixer at the end, where you've set your "overall" levels...so you'd have a stereo pair for "dry", one for the Beads, one for the Chronoblob2, and one more for the frequency shifter.
Now, if you need anything such as a fuzz, OD, and so forth, I'd recommend that those be actual stompboxes so that you can opt to place them UPstream from the Palette rig here, then you can attenuate that signal back down at the stereo input. This should also play nicely with any devices you want to put DOWNstream from this rig. Or better still, have a look at THIS: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TriParMix--electro-harmonix-tri-parallel-mixer I've got one of those...and it's pretty damn mind-blowing! The ability to parallel effects is...well, sorta different. And with that PLUS this build, you can have two other processors on that parallel bus AND still work the Palette via its expression controllers for what'll be a very complex pedalboard setup once completed.
Right now im using delta v as a vca but need for sure a dedicated vca. What other utilitys would you suggest?
-- Don_Simo
Well, it needs to be ones with that "Veils topology"...that variable response curve has piles of abuse potential. My suggestion, since Emilie is leaving the building, would be to grab a good Veils clone (I kinda like the Codex Modulex version). That way, you get four VCAs plus that "breakable mixbus" that lets you break out VCAs when needed. Going to rework this, give me a hot minute...
OK...what happened here...? Well, for one thing I've reordered the build so that the division between rows is a LOT easier to deal with. Some modules were also swapped out for smaller versions of the same thing. And then there were some "fixes"...
TOP: The Miso Cornflakes replaces the Qu-bit sampler/looper. Same idea, smaller space. Kept the Cloud Terrarium...it's a good choice, despite being quite huge. Then you see the Codex Modulex Veils clone...and here's how to split it: send your "lefts" to VCAs 1 and 2, "rights" to 3 and 4, then take the summed results from outputs 2 and 4. Voila!...stereo. Next, I swapped the Beograd out for a similar (but more bonkers) Bastl filter, their Ikarie stereo multimode...but if you look it up, there's a LOT more going on behind the panel than you had with the Xaoc one. I put in a pair of VCAs after that with the intent there being to control amplitudes going on to the Beads from the Ikarie. You can use that dual VCA for input level control over the Beads in general as well. Then Beads...followed by Frequency Central's Stasis Leak, which is a mono-in/stereo-out reverb/tap tempo delay/chorus. I went with that because it fits perfectly with the TEXMIX send/return architecture. The FX Aid XL can also take a mono signal in the left input and stereoize that, so it works with the TEXMIX as well as being a true stereo thruput if needed.
BOTTOM: Pam's, Moskva, then I added a Batumi/Poti combo for your LFOs, a Frap 321 and After Later dual "Veils" VCA, and a Zadar/Nin for envelopes. The modules in between (the 321 and dual VCA) are for modifying/altering/mangling your modulation signals, with the result being even wilder modulation signals for use all over the build. And last is the TEXMIX, but I changed out the stereo input with a mono one, since you've got a build here that's got two potential main stereo ins. Because of that, you can just pan the inputs hard left and hard right, and now you've actually got VCA control over levels from two stereo sources. Perfect!
So, yeah...some squishing was necessary, but now the result is a MUCH more potent build since you've now got the VCAs and modulation that can get this build to really cut loose. You actually get to use the TEXMIX's send/return capabilities as well, since the right sort of FX are present. And in the end, I think this came out pretty solid. Oh...and as for the Cornflakes input, you can conceivably use your headphone preamp on the TEXMIX to feed stereo back to it for live sampling. Just make sure you've crammed a big enough microSD in it!
I am looking for a module that can do the following:
-- take several (let's say 2 to 8) DC or AC signal inputs and route them to 1 (or more) outputs
-- have signal pass behavior driven by trigger inputs, such as from any normal trigger sequencer
-- triggers would "latch" causing the last triggered channel to be routed to the output
What this would let me do is to use trigger (percussion-type) sequencers to sequence other CV or audio. This would be different from normal switches in that i) it would accommodate lots of channels ii) it would not be "sequential" but rather trigger-per-channel selectable iii) switching would be driven by triggers (e.g. not continuous CV signal in like an LFO).
Any suggestions for a module that would work in this instance? I have looked around online and not seen a good solution for this.
i did offer to take the module back and refund "studioB" but that wasen't nessesary/ he refused
bought on the 3the october 21 and asking a refund on 19 august 22
sorry but that i won't do,
sorry for the disconfort/bad expirience
greets Filip
-- filipl
Elektro engeneer of my find out that he use old capisitors he exchange that for new one and now the module dint not burn out anymore. C1 and C3 i think. I just want to make clear that i dint not use the module jet (no time alot of work ;( )
i did offer to take the module back and refund "studioB" but that wasen't nessesary/ he refused
bought on the 3the october 21 and asking a refund on 19 august 22
sorry but that i won't do,
sorry for the disconfort/bad expirience
greets Filip
I habe to report @filipl. Care about his diy modules. Build quality is bad. I order one notone and it burns out sone of the diodes (not the korg ones) after only siting in my rack.
Thanks Garfield. All my rhythm stuff is made on the MPC. It allowed me to sell about €2.5k of drum and drum sequencing modules. It's not too complicated to set up with your rack. The MPC sequencer is powerful and gives you a lot of fine control. You lose that unique feeling of making music in modular, but it has so much flexibility as a sampler and sequencer that it pays off. Akai update the firmware every year and just added probability and some other things. Let me know if you have any specific questions about the MPC workflow. Cheers!
Figured would throw this out there as found it useful. Hopefully someone else will too :)
FH-2 (48mm) is a little too deep for an Intellijel Palette case (45.5mm), so I used a 3D printed riser that a kind internet user designed and made available for free. It cost about €4 to print (I found a hobbiest who would 3D print small items at low cost on my local buy & sell site - Craigslist / Gumtree equivalent). Works great and no HP lost. There’s a screw on the left hand side of the case that prevents mounting it there, but otherwise is a perfect fit.
Sakura is the Japanese name for the cherry blossoms: from the first rays of sunlight that melt the ice, the first leaves that appear and grow into colourful blossoms on all the trees, birds singing and nesting... until the end of spring and a new life cycle begins.
A modular synthesizer allows me to freely and creatively translate and shape my inspiration into a melody, harmony and counterpoint, rhythm and sounds.
This piece was composed during two days in August 22 in my studio and recorded in one take as a live performance.
Take some time, sit back and enjoy this piece of music.
It can be if you're manually dragging the modules. But the other mode is quick and works like you'd want here. Hover the cursor over a module, then hit either "," or "." to move it left or right respectively. Even if you have a pile of little stuff in a row, this can be dealt with in seconds by using those shortcuts.
That's a nice album you got there! :-) My favourites start from about track 6, it becomes relaxed to listen at, ideal for a weekend to rest after a week of hard work! The rhythm you got in Aurora, I like that. I guess that's done with the MPC?
I am still wondering if I want an MPC next to my racks and I think with your album, you answered that question :-) I really need to think about an MPC :-)
Thank you very much for sharing your new album with us and kind regards, Garfield.
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Ha, ha, ha! Yeah, order from every length a bundle of 50 pieces, so 200 pieces in total and that will do for a while, till another rack is full with modules ;-)
Not too sure about the quality though... Interesting though! Kind regards, Garfield.
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Hey Lugia! Thank you for the input! I see your point and it all makes sense. Much of it I have considered too.
I however wasn't totally clear it seems. The thing is that this system will be part of a pedalboard where I have the MPC, the DFAM, two pedals and an acoustic noise machine. You see, it happens to be so that I have just enough space (exactly enough) to fit a 104 make noise skiff on the pedalboard. The pedalboard will be complemented by the grandmother, vocals and two poly synths.
In the future l will expand with a bigger case for a more thorough system, but this is made mostly to expand the DFAM for live use. So, do you think it would work well or do you have any ideas on what to expand the DFAM with?
A VCO from Patching Panda. Really a good one, lots of waveforms, lots of mod inputs, lots of cross-collaboration in the unit. And it sounds really good too. I went long on the test/demo section because I was having fun just playing with it.
Hybrid boards, many surface mount components pre-installed but plenty to solder. Good build, though some soldering is tight and very close to SMD components so care is advised. Not a beginner kit.
I second the 4ms DLD suggestion. This is a very interesting effect module. Each side has a feedback loop and adding any sound modifier in the loops opens many possibilities. It can do a lot, from gentle and clean sound design to pure madness.