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Oh nice, that sounds like a lot of fun! You could even use midi fx upon loopback if you’d like to make things more complicated ^^
Thanks for the inspiration!

this looks like a nice little system as long as you have some way to send CV and Gates to it.

Keystep would be a great addition if you don't have something already

This was an insta-buy for me first thing this morning. I've been mulling over Kamieniec, K-Phaser, or a Small Stone pedal for the last few weeks. G Man knew exactly what I needed. Should be here on Thursday, so I'll report back with my thoughts.
-- farkas

I've been looking at this phaser, what's your feedback :) ?

I'm not looking for anything too big, but just enough to make something that I think would sound good. Is there anything I don't need or could replace with something else?

What kind of midi data do you use it for?
-- LYFoulidis

Mainly note on-note off (ignoring the pitch value) and CC messages. They can be pretty non-messy in terms of voltage to digital. And if a CC message gets garbled that can often be pretty neat.
So sequencers, LFOs and logic modules are what I translate into MIDI. And also round-tripping those, using a arpeggiator in Logic outputting to, say the Missed Opportunities eurorack module and getting the note on's back from that to a MIDI track.

NEVER actual note values, since you're very correct, that translation can be inaccurate easily with the pitch CV to MIID note value, not worth chasing it to accuracy.
But ramps, patterns, and logic work well because you can take a bit of randomness, that will just enhance things.

I've written a lot of MIDI software over the decades so already have some MIDI pre-filtering virtual devices installed on my DAW so getting rid of bad data, or unmatched on/off pairs, is something I've done a lot.

One of those places where you embrace randomness and glitches to create interesting music

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What kind of midi data do you use it for? IME complex midi data can get glitchy, I’m curious to hear how it handles the weird voltages a modular system can spit out :)

I want to be able to use my eurorack modules with my DAW in interesting ways, so I picked up Befaco's CV Thing, a CV to MIDI converter.
Pretty straightforward build, a couple of tricky spots but not bad.
A good module, if you want to work with your DAW get this.

Build

Love the track and especially the video! The source material is great and the editing amazing too. Was this a Visualz RBG effect? However you did it, great job.
-- FredFoxtrott

Thank you for your feedback! For video editing I use Movavi Video Editor Plus 2020 - I bought it when I needed an affordable software for video work and thought I'd found the right value/ratio but it soon turned out this wasn't the case. It has a limited set of video fx with limited features on board and constantly wants me to pay for more plugins/options. The fx I used in this video is called Broken Lens and is one of the better ones Movavi has to offer.
Thanks again and best wishes,
Gabor

Exactly.

Yes! I tend to "mix" everything down on the synth already and only record a stereo sum. Really challenging as the synth voices are so rich and tend to fight each other a lot of times!

eng. below.
Salut la communauté,
Depuis que j'ai commencé à jouer avec le feedback (boucle de réinjection), j'étais à la recherche d'un module vraiment dédié à cette tâche. Et je pense que Dark Matter de Caspecrelectronics x Bastl Instruments est, à l'heure actuelle, la meilleure option.
bon visionnage pour ceux qu souhaite en savoir plus.
Hey community, Since I've started playing with feedback, I was looking for a "deep" module dedicated to that task. In that field, I am very VERY impressed by the Dark Matter, a collab of Casperelectronics and Bastl Instruments.
Let's get into it. In french with trusty subtitles.

Love the track and especially the video! The source material is great and the editing amazing too. Was this a Visualz RBG effect? However you did it, great job.

Thanks Zugga, I've really been focusing on mixing, because recording multiple synth voices almost always entails working with broad frequency ranges. Articulating every voice in the overall mix can be challenging. This track was recorded all in one go through a four channel mixer, so I've learned that getting the initial recording right is so key.

Just an Idea for your 2hp left.

Either keep them open for later expansion of a small nifty utility you need to accomplish something specific. Or something more utilitarian like a passive LPG, Meng Qi - DPLPG comes to mind (the frontplate is 2hp but the vactrols on the back are a tiny bit lager, which could make positioning a little tricky in such a packed rack.) Also it's passive! So you spare some Amps for the other modules ;)
-- zuggamasta

Ah thats a great idea actually! Heard good things about the DPLPG.

I was wondering, if with Ikarie you will get your filter-finger-fantasies covered. And then, with a heavy heart, sell Belgrad...(!)

Cause if you did you could seriously open up your rack some more! You could even get a small filter if you really wanted two, like WMD C4RBN which presumably is pretty awesome - and then you would still have a good amount of room left!

You could use it for another voice, an additional larger envelope generator like Quadrax or something and then take Cnoc out.

In general (and especially my own rack :S ...) I think envelope generators are underrepresented in a lot of racks. They are so nice for getting the best out of modules and adds potentially a lot of nice rythms to a sound/soundscape but also just simple voicings. E.g. with the help of something like Missed Opportunities to trigger them https://shop.cutelab.nyc/eurorack/missed-opportunities/

EDITED Sep 5th 2022, 11:28

Bonus points for the well made Video and the DAW projection in front of you! Such a nice detail.

Just an Idea for your 2hp left.

Either keep them open for later expansion of a small nifty utility you need to accomplish something specific. Or something more utilitarian like a passive LPG, Meng Qi - DPLPG comes to mind (the frontplate is 2hp but the vactrols on the back are a tiny bit lager, which could make positioning a little tricky in such a packed rack.) Also it's passive! So you spare some Amps for the other modules ;)

Okay I gave it a try too. Still just a quick out of head version.

1. With Veils 2020 (or a clone..) you have enough VCA's to let go of Delta V. I replaced it with Cnoc from Instruo so you still got an extra envelope/function generator besides Zadar. I think that will be enough with Pam's doing stuff too.

2. Navigator from Acid Rain gives your rack some more hands on control, and a way to manipulate some cv

3. I replaced Nin with Ostankino. I think tying some extra functions to it really opens up your sequencer capabilities with Moskwa 2. You could choose a multi-channel cv generator instead though. I would look at Chaos Clank for some fun extra sequencing.

4. Nebulae is a mainstay I think. You definitely need to replace it with something similar at least - Cornflakes, Morphagene, Arbhar or something.

5. I put in Desmodus Versio so you have a delay!! (you need a dedicated delay in Modular, too fun!)

6. Then there was 2hp left. I have heard great things about Pluck, so added it for an extra voice so you have Pizza, Nebulae, Beads and Pluck as potential voices.

Okay I gave it a try too. Still just a quick out of head version.

1. With Veils 2020 (or a clone..) you have enough VCA's to let go of Delta V. I replaced it with Cnoc from Instruo so you still got an extra envelope/function generator besides Zadar. I think that will be enough with Pam's doing stuff too.

2. Navigator from Acid Rain gives your rack some more hands on control, and a way to manipulate some cv

3. I replaced Nin with Ostankino. I think tying some extra functions to it really opens up your sequencer capabilities with Moskwa 2. You could choose a multi-channel cv generator instead though. I would look at Chaos Clank for some fun extra sequencing.

4. Nebulae is a mainstay I think. You definitely need to replace it with something similar at least - Cornflakes, Morphagene, Arbhar or something.

5. I put in Desmodus Versio so you have a delay!! (you need a dedicated delay in Modular, too fun!)

6. Then there was 2hp left. I have heard great things about Pluck, so added it for an extra voice so you have Pizza, Nebulae, Beads and Pluck as potential voices.

17hp left. But I'm really happy with the latest additions.

Missed Opportunities:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/cutelab-missed-opportunities
My choice over mutable marbles, the random gates are cascading down, making it possible to generate rythmic drum patterns from just one clock. To make the randomness usable it's possible to reset the the current random sequence via CV and generate a new seed via a small button.

Rample:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/squarp-instruments-rample
After a lot of back and forth I landed on this sampler. The four outs are automatically removed from the mix if you plug them in (super smart). The CV assignment is fantastic and easy. The default samples are great, too. I'll report on how well it works to add my own breakbeat slices. As I think this might be quite the hassle to set up. But worth it in the end.

twitter link to a small sketch showcasing how Missed Ops can trigger interesting repeatable patterns on the Rample

EDITED Dec 23rd 2022, 08:15

Parasite Antifilter pre-orders now available from https://flightofharmony.com
Available as a $189 DIY Kit or as an assembled module for $239.

Originally intended as an EQ, the module invites numerous way to generate and modulate cascading feedback across three bands.
Feedback patching also allows the module to switch from an 11 input / 2 output module to 8 input / 5 output.
Generate ever greater amounts of CV Bias.
Turn pings, envelopes, triggers, loops, and gates into an orgy of sputtering, shrieking noise.

Hi Garfield, this one was an earworm that stayed patched for a while. Thank you, as always, for the kind words.
FF

Hi TumeniKnobs,

I love the relax-ness of this track, it relaxes me down, put me in a good and right mood and though I am sad the weekend is yet over again, your music helps me from not suffering too much of the "oh shit, this is the end of the weekend"-effect ;-)
(which the Sunday usually has as an effect on me like that, knowing that I have to work again tomorrow/Monday)

It cools me down and I am pretty sure due to your music, I can handle the upcoming week! :-) Thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Fred,

Nice to hear from you again and thanks a lot for the detailed patch notes, very interesting!

The track is great, I love full energy and happy songs. For me this is a joy to listen at, it gives me positive energy and gives me a happy feeling! :-) Thank you very much for that and kind regards, Garfield.

P.S.: It looks like you enjoyed yourself too, great to see you at work.

I am an AJH fanboy so I tend to praise almost everything they make. Is there anything specific you would like to know?
I'm not familiar with the Thorn.Audio brand, but AJH has a good track record of building extremely high quality modules and excellent customer service. I'm happy with all of their products.
-- farkas

... i'm looking for a wavetabel lfo and i think both of them do the job. what do you think are the main differences between those two modules and are the 100€ price difference worth buying the AJH? greetings

Maybe I misunderstand, but if you are patching the VCO outs directly into the delay, you probably won't get much -- just some weird phasing effect mostly. Sounds like what you are getting.

Put the an amp envelope between the VCO and the delay and see what happens. The VCA out of the M32 will probably do the trick.
-- the-erc

OMG thank you so much! Spent over 12 months not patching this right and wondering why I could never get delay to sound right! Now I've nailed it with the correct patching lol

Hi All! I wanted to see if I can make something cool and "musical" with a bunch of sound sources and a single krell function. I really like how this came out.

This was a one take performance recording. Minor EQing and compression added to the final mix.

The basics here are that there is a single krell function coming from Maths and multed along with the End of Cycle gate. One gate goes to the Stochastic Inspiration Generator which is providing pitch information to four oscillators (Cloud Terrarium, Piston Honda, Elements, Brenso). One gate also goes to the Subharmonicon to drive its two internal sequencers. One gate goes to the gate input of Elements.

The Krell function is driving VCAs for the Cloud Terrarium and Piston Honda, but there is no VCA controlling amplitude for Brenso or Elements. The krell is also modulating the filter cutoff of Bionic Lester (for the Piston Honda).

All four channels of SIG are tuned to some variety of Dm (minor triad, minor 7th, minor pentatonic, etc. so each sound source will never play the same notes, but they do combine to make some very interesting chords.

CT and PH are set to "traditional" krell flowy/stabby sounds, Brenso is legato, but still somewhat abrupt, while Elements is plucky with a silky timbre. The Subharmonicon is mostly set to slow attack and medium release, but gets tweaked in the performance. SubH is quite subtle in this recording but fills a lot of sonic space with at least two of its oscillators always turned up and up to five of the six are dialed in at one point.

All kinds of modulation providing lots of movement throughout. I used Triple Sloths, Tides, Kermit, Ochd, Quadrax and Planar. Effects are from Mimeophon and Starlab. Sloths is modulating the Speed and Depth of the Starlab internal LFO which occasionally does very cool things.

Cheers!

I am an AJH fanboy so I tend to praise almost everything they make. Is there anything specific you would like to know?
I'm not familiar with the Thorn.Audio brand, but AJH has a good track record of building extremely high quality modules and excellent customer service. I'm happy with all of their products.

I'm planning my first DIY case to go bigger than my current Intellijel 7U. Below is what I currently have in there. I'd initially migrate all that and add a few modules, then expand as time progresses. I'd also keep the 7U just in case, for later.

MG says this has a power consumption of 1740mA on the +12V, 830mA on the -12V and nothing on 5V. That makes me completely confused about PSUs like the Doepfer PSU3, which they use on their monster cases. They spec that PSU at +12V/2A, which is barely enough to feed my 208HP. Then -12V/1.2A which is a bit of margin. And then +5V/4A. Why? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

I'm aiming to get 500-600HP. To get to that size, Doepfer ships their monster cases with 4 PSU3s, which gets them 8A on +12V and an incredible 16A at 5V that sits completely unused. I'm not saying there are no modules that use 5V at all - I've filled a 12U monster rack on MG here with some random ideas for modules and I'm at a full total of 4A +12V, 2A -12V and... 215mA +5V. Yeah!

So instead of that, I'm looking at the Konstant Lab HammerPWR set that has +12V/5A, -12V 2.5A and a much more reasonable +5V/2A. Still considering to get the pack with 2 or 4 bus boards. With 2, I can extend with a third at a later stage and save a few bucks. With 4, it's more long term thinking, which I already noticed is a good idea in Eurorack. The 4 bus board pack costs the same as 3 PSU3s by themselves (no power brick, bus boards, ...)

MiniMod Tap-Tempo VC-LFO VS. thorn.audio VC LFO

EDITED Sep 4th 2022, 15:36

I travel quite a lot to different countries in the EU and would like to see what modules are available where I arrive. The problem is the region option only contains EU as an option and not specific countries.

Is it possible to add countries please?

@Ziqal any info on the Dimension MK3 now its September?

A bigger case is recommended since you want room for support utility modules. I use an MDLR 14u case that is portable even though heavy and use a hand cart for it when I travel. With 5 WMD percussion modules, WMD Mixer, WMD Metron sequencer and few support tools it still takes up two of my 14u rows easily.

Okay, took me a while before i got around to it but I actually checked out what was going on with the module. I found that the tuning was mostly on point, with one or two octaves slightly off, but the first octave was WAY off, playing something around an E when the module had 0V on the input.

Recalibrating the module seemed to fix the issue, but I'm thinking that it may have problems with losing data that should be in non-volatile memory given my issues with the module powering up with the slew rate set to the maximum value. Funnily enough that also happened when I booted it up in calibration mode, so I had to wait a bit for the oscillator to slide up to the new octave whenever I moved on to the next one.

I'm hoping it doesn't do this too much, it'll be annoying having to recalibrate it often. I'll probably reach out to Mosaic as well to see if they're aware of the issue.

ah that's good thinking!

Great little setup!

Wow, really nice to listen to this....enjoyed it very much. I love my Bitbox Micro, have been using it with my BeatStepPro actually using the eight drum triggers with it.

just create a big rack and throw everything in, including duplicates...

A bit ridiculous perhaps, but is there any fast/simple way to determine the total value of all the modules we have listed in our Modulargrid collection? For it to work properly, you'd also need a way to indicate the number of each module you had, if there are duplicates in your stash

sorry if this seems totally frivolous - it is, tbh. Just curious if it's a possibility

This track was my main production project for August. Worked on it a little too long, but I am happy with the final patch.

Patch Notes:

Boss DR-670 Kit: 16

BeatStep Pro BPM: 80 Key: C
Clock [Out] to Moog Mother 32 [Tempo]
SEQ 1
Pitch to Mutable Instruments Plaits [V/Oct]
SEQ 2
Pitch to Synthesis Technology Circuit Bent VCO [V/Oct]
Gate to Doepfer Dual ADSR [L Gate]
SEQ 3
MIDI to DR-670

Mother 32
VCA Out to Endorphin.es Milky Way [L In]
Assn to Moog DFAM [Adv/Clock]
Gate to M32 [Mult In]
Mult 1 to Rebel Technology Stoicheia [L In]
Mult 2 to Plaits [Trig]

DFAM: Kick & Bass
Pitch to [VCF Mod]
VCO EG to [Noise Level]

Rebel Technology Stoicheia
L Out to Make Noise Maths [Ch. 2]
R Out to Plaits [Harmo]

INSTRUō øchd
LFO 4 to Plaits [Morph]
LFO 5 to Maths [Ch. 3]
LFO7 to Mimeophon [Color]

Doepfer Dual ADSR
Env. 1 Out 1 to Maths [Ch. 1 Cycle]
Env. 1 Out 2 to A.I Synthesis Quad VCA [CV 2]
Env. 2 Out 1 to Maths [Ch. 4 Cycle]

Make Noise Maths
SUM to Plaits [Timbre]

Erica Synths Pico DSP
L Out to Endorphin.es Cockpit^2 [Ch. 3]

Mutable Instruments Plaits
Out to Make Noise Mimeophon [L In]
Aux to Mimeophon [R In]

WMD Triple Bipolar VCA
Mix Out to External Mixer [Ch. 1 Panned L]

A.I. Synthesis Quad VCA
Ch. 2 Out to Pico DSP [In]
Mix Out to External Mixer [Ch. 2 Panned R]

Moog DFAM
VCA to Cockpit^2 [Ch. 1]

Synthesis Technology Circuit Bent VCO
Audio to Quad VCA [Ch. 2]

Make Noise Mimeophon
L Out to TBVCA [Ch. 1]
R Out to Quad VCA [Ch. 1]

Endorphin.es Cockpit^2
Out to External Mixer [Ch. 3 Panned C]

Endorphin.es Milky Way
L Out to Triple Bipolar VCA [Ch. 2 In]
R Out to Quad VCA [Ch. 3 In]

400ma? That's 50 more than the full size Mk2? Crazy if accurate. It's a tenth of my entire power rail on TipTop Zeus. Verified on the 1010 site, and Modular Grid says Mk2 is 350ma, where 1010 says it's also 400. The Assimil8or is 250. ER-301 is 320. I suppose it's the monster touch screen.

One module I would recommend considering adding to this setup now is some sort of effects...like the FX Aid Pro or XL (which unfortunately seem to be hard to find these days). Not sure what HP you have available but definitely something to consider for that "get off from work, get a patch going, and groove" jamming :)
-- jb61264

good call there - especially the pro version - much easier to use when you can see what you are doing!!

One module I would recommend considering adding to this setup now is some sort of effects...like the FX Aid Pro or XL (which unfortunately seem to be hard to find these days). Not sure what HP you have available but definitely something to consider for that "get off from work, get a patch going, and groove" jamming :)

Excellent dealing with @ rossominerale purchased a mutable ears.excellent packaging quick delivery. Nice person. Very happy thank you.

Hi Jim,

PAM clock is on 120 BPM. I am currently sending triggers to 3 sequencers (stepper acid, metropolix, cyrcadian ryhthm)

Output multipler are set a 1x.

The sequencers are running very very slow (30 bpm to my ears). If i want them to run at 120 BPM i need to set the PAM modifiers at 4x.

Thanks
Mat
-- abstractrhythms

it sounds like your sequencers have their ppqn set to 4 (or some other value) and not one then, which you are expecting... 'clock' is often set higher to maintain stability

it's the same as if you want stable triggers, use a faster clock & a divider and not slow clock and a multiplier...

EDITED Sep 2nd 2022, 13:24

120 bpm = 120 quarter notes per minute. you want to clock your sequencer with 16th notes, which is why you need to use the x4 outputs. it's doesn't matter how you multiply or divide the clock, it's all in 120 bpm.

EDITED Sep 2nd 2022, 12:51

Hi Jim,

PAM clock is on 120 BPM. I am currently sending triggers to 3 sequencers (stepper acid, metropolix, cyrcadian ryhthm)

Output multipler are set a 1x.

The sequencers are running very very slow (30 bpm to my ears). If i want them to run at 120 BPM i need to set the PAM modifiers at 4x.

Thanks
Mat

EDITED Sep 2nd 2022, 11:27

how do you mean exactly?

is this when clocking another (sequencer) module - in which case maybe the ppqn of that module is the issue...

or is it that you are trying to clock pams with 1/4 notes and the ppqn is set to 4 - try clocking with 16ths

or is it that you are expecting to trigger something like hats at 16ths?

remember bpm is 1/4 notes per minute not 16ths

Hi,

I don't quite understand why i have to set the modifiers at 4x to get the actual BPM. If i set the modifiers to 1x i just get the BPM/4.

PPQN looks ok.

What it could be? thanks

EDITED Sep 2nd 2022, 09:06

Hi,
I am looking to sell a few cases after reorganizing things. Is it ok to post here so that potential buyers will know about my listings on other sites? Does anyone have advice on selling gently used cases?
Thanks!
John

Thanks for the response!

I do have an audio interface, but having done some research, I think an output module would certainly help me.

HAHAHA - to some extent they are marketing snake oil - 1st try without at all (probably will work fine), if you experience clippping (unwanted distortion) then try some passive attenuators (always useful) - if still not satisfied then try an output module...

Feel free to tell me to just go reading, but do you have any advice on paring back? I'm having difficulty imagining that I'll enjoy making music with pretty much one voice. I guess there's always the option of building a single voice with a lot of modulation possibilities, and filling in the rest of things in the DAW itself.

I'd start with (from the modules you think you want) Pams, Maths**, the erica vco, a filter, a quad vca - add a buffered mult and a module that does - mixing, inverting, attenuation - something like a happy nerding 3mia, if you can find one get it... yes I know maths has that built in - but see the 'footnote' - you want this on top of what maths provides, trust me...

pams can generate random quantized pitch voltages as well as providing clock and envelopes

the idea is to slew (reduce the rate of change of) the learning curve so that you are not overwhelmed and can properly learn the modules that you have before buying anymore... once you feel that you know those modules inside and out and how they interact with each other then add one or 2 more modules and repeat the process and so on...

it's not that this is mandatory - it's just a tried and tested method... and it applies to modular synthesis (using basic building block modules to synthesize sounds***) and to what I call synthesis with modules (use complex modules to reach the same goal) or anywhere in between... which is probably where I have (and probably most people) end up

*no plan survives contact with the enemy - which is you, btw!!

**download the 'maths illustrated supplement' work your way through it a few times - it'll take a while - a few weeks or months probably - work out why, what and how it is doing what it does for each patch... and then use this as a jumping off point for your own experiments

***for example use a cascading vca, an lfo and a handful of basic utilities to patch up a vc crossfader or a vc panner or a compressor, instead of buying a crossfader module, a panning module or a compressor - as you don't necessarily need these al the time, but you might want them now and then - in other words always ask can I patch that with what I've got without compromising anything else, before buying a new module - which might end up with you then buying another set of cascading vca, lfo, various utilities instead of the dedicated module as it's more versatile

I appreciate the reminder to go slow--so long as I get a decent case, I'll always have room to grow
-- vandewhatering

indeed, and there's always another case - I have 8!!

tiptop mantis is a great starter rack!! best bang for buck hp/cost/decent power/manufacturer reputation!!!

btw - the quantizer is superfluous - varigate can output quantized sequenced pitch and pams can do quantized loopable random pitch... and you may find you don't really need an adsr - a large proportion of modular users just use ad or ar envelopes