yeah, we see that in the video.. Great little module for mangling stuff too, it does great things modulated at audio rate
Thanks for the post, i have this module on my wish list now.
This one even can be used as a 4 step sequencer which is very nice. I allready own the Twin Waves and Flexshaper.
I am now looking at this, which is 20hp and €200 cheaper. I've been using Drambo for MIDI drum sequences so it would work.
Hey there, It's Thot's Lot, in reality it's 2 distinct systems of 208 HP each, a 6U and a 7U from Casqe From Lake, which is a partner of my YT activities !
The main purpose of Thot's Lot is to be able to jam with the band and create ambiances, beats and globally the sound design of the band. Our sound is a blend of post-punk, techno-punk and neo industrial. We have a fatastic bassist, a wonderful female singer, a strong guitar and me with this weird thing :)
Hi Gabor,
Wow, what a great track is this?! High tension and great atmosphere you are building up there and your video fits perfectly well with it. I don't think I do sleep well tonight, I am so impressed (in a positive way), this will be for a long way on my mind :-)
Thank you very much for this exciting audio-visual experience you are sharing with us. I love it! Kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular
Thank you, Garfield ☺️
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Hi Mowse,
Nice to hear my favourite Moog sound again :-) Great rhythm you got there and I agree here with TumeniKnobs, this could be at least double or quadruple length for me!
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.
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Hi Gabor,
Wow, what a great track is this?! High tension and great atmosphere you are building up there and your video fits perfectly well with it. I don't think I do sleep well tonight, I am so impressed (in a positive way), this will be for a long way on my mind :-)
Thank you very much for this exciting audio-visual experience you are sharing with us. I love it! Kind regards, Garfield.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
I'm a bit limited with my Rample.>
That just doesn't sound good...
-- BerkleeGrad1984
Hahaha, well, I'll grant you that. "With the Squarp Rample in my current rack" for you then ;-)
I'm a bit limited with my Rample. I like the samples that are in there, particulary when they're quirky, but then I can't combine those with regular drums because I'm stuck to one bank. So I was considering adding something extra. I'm also bumping into the limitations of my Oxi sequencer, or rather the connectivity. With Rample, I'm taking 1 sequencer and 4 trigger outs, but I frequently wish I could free up that sequencer for something else than drums.
So I was looking at drum boxes like the Drumlogue, the LXR-02 (standalone), the Volca Drum, Elektron Digitakt/Syntakt, and others that I decided were too expensive. Several sound good and seem to have great built-in sequencers. Very appealing! Until I realised I really like CVing stuff with S&H or the Joranalogue Orbit. Even when the sound comes out in separate outs, you can only do so much. For example, controlling the decay of a kick drum or tom can't be typically done with CV on these standalone boxes.
On the other hand, there's modular drum machines. The one easiest to compare is the LXR drum module, as it has the same sound engine of the LXR-02 standalone. There's plenty of CV capability in there and it all sounds very nice. But triggering that from my Oxi would take 7 out of 8 triggers. And for some reason, the LXR module has no midi. (Honestly - the one with the sequencer has midi but the one without doesn't...). So either I'm on the lookout for another hybrid drum machine, or I could try and live with the limitations of an in-box experience.
Or I could try something like this! With a 4MS pod, it would become a nice semi-standalone unit that I can CV from my main modular, yet use standalone as well. Does anybody do something like this - build your own DIY modular groovebox/drum machine? Doesn't have to be the Nerdseq, could be another sequencer.
What do you think?
I bought a Maneco Labs Grone 2 that I'm pretty happy with and I am considering making a smaller (104hp) portable drone synth centered around it. I haven't been able to find any good videos that show the capabilities of the Maneco Labs Filter Eko and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with it or videos that I could reference. Also, while you're here... have a look at this drone rack and LMK if you'd change anything. Thanks in advance (again)!
I would definitely second this request, now that I have the 1U external display for the Disting EX on its way to me.
@TumeniKnobs & @jb61264
Your feedback is much appreciated, thank you!
I am inspired by birth, death and the events inbetween.
If you are interested in picking one of these up post-WMD announcement of going out of business, check out this thread where Bard Synthesizers is taking orders for a replacement version of this module.
I'd say keep maths and add batumi - get a bigger case - a mantis is really only just big enough for 3 voices - you need to add more utilities - mixers, vcas, offsets, attenuators, logic etc etc these add versatility for relatively little cash - see my signature!
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
Thank you so much for this. I really do see it similarly. It is never a solo.
You need a larger case and more utility support modules. Instead of Maths, perhaps go with Batumi as it takes up less space and easier to use. Also the Instruo Divkid 0chd gives more modulation in space sized HP module. For voices, consider a polyphonic synth module like Knobula Poly Cinematic or Acid Rain Chainsaw as they are not large modules but pack a lot of features.
Great piece! But it was weird to see the images in contrast to the gorgeous day we are having right now. Sunny, just hot enough, clear blue sky, birds chirping away, hawks flying around, deer eating apples off my tree, bunnies grazing on my lawn... :-)
BIOman & -ADR- thank you !!
Christian
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That's pretty awesome! Totally wouldn't complain if it were (much) longer. :-) Cheers!
yeah, it's real joy to play with
Signal sorcery. Mixwitch is sold for a mixer with a switch section, but it's also a sequencer, waveshaper, octave controler, sub octave generator, clock random, lo-fi machine, AM expert... And so much more..
Very cool...pun intended there ;)
I like the whole 'cinematic' vibe to this...cool photos too (I do some photography as well).
JB
Fantastic!, and given the latest research - a probable prediction.
-- VOW3LLtheVAMPIRE
Thank you for your feedback!
I am inspired by birth, death and the events inbetween.
Thank you so much for typing all that out. I was looking at the Alan module as a turing machine option but I'm not sure what it would accomplish that PNW or the Winter Modular won't do. I'm going to read this like a dozen times, watch the links and then put it to practice. Thank you so much for your time!
A contemplative, slow-build piece with Plonk, Disting Ex, Sub37, Nord Drum2 & OP-1. Patch details in the video description. Thanks for watching.
I am inspired by birth, death and the events inbetween.
Yes, and if you get an ES8 or ES9 you'll also be able to use your case with VCVrack which is free and mimics how modular works. It's an awesome way to learn modular and it will inform your choices for your physical rack as you learn more.
Hi!
I just wanted to share with you guys the case I've been planning (and I'm still planning) for the last year.
I don't even have half of the modules here but I'd like to know your opinion in the system.
Do you think is consistent enough? Does it lack on some module? Are some modules repetitive or redundant?
What would you change?
I'm actually struggling about the MIXING / AUDIO OUT part. Still haven't figured.
One of my ideas is to use Ableton as my main sequencer or lead. My idea is to have all the MIDI clips compiled in a session and CV them to the system. I guess that is possible with the ES-8, right?
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I think there are two sides to your question. The first is how to get the acid sound (aka the sounds design) how to create evolving melodies (specific patches/modules). I'm by no means an expert, I've also stared my full modular journey in 2020.
Of course the synth that introduced acid is the Roland TB-303. I don't have one myself so I cannot give you all the details about this. If you want an exact replication of this sound then there are some modules that are basically 303 eurorack clones like the Open Music Labs x0x heart (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/grayscale-x0x-heart-eurorack-module). If you want to build it out of a oscillator/VCA/filter/envelope combination, know that the main characteristic of the sound is the filter and its resonance, for the other parts like osc and envelope you can use whatever modules you prefer. There are plenty of filters that "scream" in the same way a 303 filter does.
The original 303 has a slide option as well. You can achieve this by adding slew to your pitch CV. You have dedicated modules for this in a small package, like the WMD Time Warp that nickgreenberg mentioned, but you could actieve the same thing with a gate/drum sequencer or something else that produces gates, an attenuator and a slew limiter. I believe you have everything in your rack to achieve this as well, but like mentioned it takes up a few modules vs. WMD's one-in-all solution.
Let me know if you want more detailed info on these above topics.
For evolving acid patterns/melodies, there are a million ways to achieve this. What I think you want is a pre-programmed or random set pattern to slowly change rhythm, notes or velocity over time. Everything that generates CV can be patched into a quantizer to generate pitch information in a specific musical scale. I've seen people use LFO's, multiple mixed LFO's, noise, envelopes, you name it.
What you might want to look into is called "Shift Register" or "Turing Machine". It has a list of random, generated or input voltages. This list is looped and moves (or shifts, hence the name shift register) with every clock input received, over and over. With knobs or CV input you can determine what the probability is the current voltage will stay the same. If its set to 100%, every voltage will stay the same, thus looping it. If it's set to 0%, the voltages are all random again. Divkid has a good video about the Music Thing Modular Turing Machine, which I think the most popular module in this category:
You can achieve similar results with the gear you already have I think. Some examples:
- I believe the Eloquencer has a few ways to throw randomization into pre-made patterns, you could look into that.
- Disting Mk4 has a Shift Register built-in as well as described above, F-6 Shift Register Random Quantized CVs (check the manual).
- Disting MK4 has a quantizer as well, which can be used to turn other CV sources into pitch information. As input you could use anything you want, such as:
- Create a complex envelope on XAOC Zadar, trigger (or loop it that's possible, don't know this module) it from somewhere. This is your looped melody. Patch other LFO's like the XAOC Batumi or Instro Ochd into a bunch of attenuators and use the attentuators' output to control multiple parameters on the Zadar. The more you turn the attenuators, the more you change the envelope aka your melody.
- You could go the other way around as well, so not Batumi modulating Zadar, but Zadar modulating Batumi. Use a mixer to mix all Batumi's LFO's (or patch the output of one LFO into anothers input).
- You could expand on this idea by not using attentuators to evolve the melody, but replace the attenuator with a VCA and use a gate as CV input to evolve the melody on specific steps with a gate/step sequencer.
- Pamela's New Workout has a random stepped voltage output type. In the same menu, you have an option to loop the output for a number of steps. This value can be CV controlled. Use something that creates an offset voltage (like the Befaco A+B*C with nothing patched in) to set the desired amount of looping steps. If you then briefly set the CV input back to 0V, the output starts randomnizing again, until it receives the offset voltage again. Sending it 0V and the offset voltage every few bars evolves the melody, the amount of evolvement can be controlled.
Good luck!
Long time, no see.
A little after dinner Moog jam. Two Moog Mother 32’s played over a DFAM kick. Modulation and VCA’s played by hand. A fun way to play these semi-modulars.
Hope you are all well.
Hi Igor,
This time a bit more experimental from you! Pretty interesting, I finished the fourth stage and now started at the beginning of your album with the first stage. I will continue listening to your ever-interesting music! Great guitar play here too.
Thank you very much for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.
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I don't post on ModWiggler any more but the answer to your question is the Flame Mirror:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/flame-unipolarinverter
Posted here because it was annoying me that no one could come up with this lol.
Yeah! Great track. Some consider their modular setup as an "instrument" but this is a great example of it being much much more than an instrument. All the various pieces coming together like this form and entire orchestra. This is the real power of modular. Only a workstation type "synth" can do this kind of thing, but no workstation I've owned comes close to the hands on experience I get putting together whole tracks on my modular rack. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Just finished the Third Stage and the tremolo is awesome on that track! Really enjoying this as my background music this morning. Well done!
Thanks for this suggestion. I think that its definitely an element that I am missing. I had been looking at pitch shifters and precision adders but couldn't quite piece it together. I ordered one this morning. Such a shame about WMD. Hopefully they'll be back...
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Suggest you grab a wmd time warp before wmd goes away. The ability to pitch slew on demand with ease and full control will come in very useful for acid.
This very nice series appears for DSI Tempest in 2012: https://stimresp.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/tempest-recipes-first-things-first/
If you follow that thread you'll find a bunch of first principles and ur-patches for perc synthesis. It is one I should revisit too. A key takeaway: you can make perc out of lots of things.
Found this old thread after Hexinverter emailed their list to announce upcoming closure. In sadness and greed I went and bought a bunch of Mutant drums.
I built my synth for drones and generative ambient music but I have an acid techno itch that needs to be scratched. I was hoping to get some patch ideas from the community so that I could break away from repetition and maybe learn something new. I'm still relatively noob (started building in 2020). What are your favorite patches to generate acid bass lines? Would you add or ditch any modules from this rig?
Many thanks Garfield and MBPNick. Much appreciated.
Re SIG - It has become my favorite module. I am using it in almost every patch these days. It does a lot, but it is very easy to learn and very versatile. I really like it for performing cool solos over sequenced tracks from Rene or Metrolopolix, but I have used it to drive drum beats - four channel gate outs to the gate ins on VPMEQD for example. It's also a great CV source for modulation. For me, if I want to have a quantized krell, then why bother with S/H and a quantizer? It's much easier to just drive the notes with SIG and adjust it on the fly. I can't recommend it enough. Cheers!
This sounds great! Very soothing with fantastic, rich layered timbres, and I love the chirps. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Fantastic!
Now I know what to tell my wife
To calculate the power outlet you have to multiply your current value with the voltage value (you can ignore the minus sign since that's only a polarity specification) and add everything up. Your case consumes about 67.66Watts. I'll round that up to say about 70W just for ease. To know how long you can run your system until you reach 1kWh you take 1000Wh/70W and you come up with about 14.3hours. So you have to invest about 20¢ every 14.3 hours.
To calculate the price of 12 hours simply take 12h*70W=840Wh. And multiply that with the price of one Wh which is 0.01974¢ so you have to pay about 16.6¢ every 12 hours you run your synth.
Hope that helps :)
Clueless on how electricity works, let alone the cost of it....!
Just curious, below are the specs of my setup. Any idea what it would cost to leave running for 12 hours?
Total module power: 3,873 mA +12v / 1,749 mA -12v / 92 mA +5V
The case I have will take up to 8000/3200 mA
The average electricity rate in my area is 19.74¢ per kWh
Here’s a recording from a big Krell patch – using Audacity to take a section out of it, adding a simple fade in/out at either end and normalizing to make it a bit louder - that’s about all I’m capable of doing on Audacity.
I started off wanting to make a sound that felt like a mid-70s library record (used to collect those, then I had kids) used on an old wildlife documentary. It's supposed to tell a story of how birds migrate: first the gather, stage for the journey, then the long haul, then they're at their new home for the winter. Sound design-wise, the 70s library feel didn't happen!
Patch notes:
Core Krell (cycling A/D) has its EOC driving Pam’s and a 4MS rotating clock divider. Core Krell provides pitch (via quantized S/H) for main background voice, with another Krell (reversed modulation with longer A/D times set) nested within to modulate gain. Same approach for a ‘lead’ voice Krell and another set of Krells for a heavily reverb’d chord that follows the lead for panned background swells. Many of these Krells use their A/D times but take their pitch S/Hs from other Krell EOCs. A lot of the clock divider pulses determine things like a switch to spread mode on the Magneto delay and feedback triggers for its tape heads. Magneto’s own clock modulation drives a Telharmonic and some higher frequency pings and the bird-ish noises which in turn are manipulated by a Morphagene with its record and other settings modulated by clock divisions, S/H etc.
Everything crosses over into VCVRack for Supermassive reverbs, then into a big mixer with many of its channels modulated for fades, panning and gain. Clock divisions from the case also trigger lots of different sequential switches (some in the case, others in VCV) for turning on/off voices. This is also where the patch got recorded to PC.
I was trying to use slew limiters to make a more ‘glided’ switch for the middle section, but it screwed up the patch, so quickly pulled that out!
Here’s the track (headphones would be best, I don't have speakers nor know how to master)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JohJ6KdvwAmjS_la1U0AYv-4Z1PXh7iK/view?usp=sharing
