I noticed you have Intellijel (love them) Quad VCA, which has great additional features of boosts, individual attenuator pots, etc, WMD makes a real interesting Triple Bi-polar VCA. I don't think you need more VCAs like that. Maybe not as simple as the A-130-8v from Doepfer, but just some extra VCAs that allow you to take advantage of all the power you already have. Oh and along with those VCAs some LFOs, maybe throw an øchd in there :)
-- FredFoxtrott
I do also have the ADE-50 which usually leaves me with plenty of vcas...or at least it hasn't been a problem yet.
I do really like the idea of the øchd, that's a great recommendation for a module of which I was unaware, and I do most often find myself wishing for another dixie (for an lfo source) independent of the dixie itself (rather than just multed or stackcabled). If that makes sense.
Great food for thought. Appreciate the feedback!
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
I noticed you have Intellijel (love them) Quad VCA, which has great additional features of boosts, individual attenuator pots, etc, WMD makes a real interesting Triple Bi-polar VCA. I don't think you need more VCAs like that. Maybe not as simple as the A-130-8v from Doepfer, but just some extra VCAs that allow you to take advantage of all the power you already have. Oh and along with those VCAs some LFOs, maybe throw an øchd in there :)
imho this is actually a nice little rack. If you are just beginning you have all you need VCOs, VCFs, VCA, a sequencer, and some FX. You will of course grow into your own way of using them together and you'll get more stuff soon enough. I suggest as you do to get more simple VCAs and proper ADSRs. Maths is great in a pinch, but good ADSRs open up many new paths for modulation. Can't wait to hear more!
-- FredFoxtrott
Thanks for listening and I appreciate the advice!
By more simple VCAs, do you mean non-cascading? Not sure I follow...
ADSR advice, on the other hand, understood and noted! Thank you, again! :)
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
imho this is actually a nice little rack. If you are just beginning you have all you need VCOs, VCFs, VCA, a sequencer, and some FX. You will of course grow into your own way of using them together and you'll get more stuff soon enough. I suggest as you do to get more simple VCAs and proper ADSRs. Maths is great in a pinch, but good ADSRs open up many new paths for modulation. Can't wait to hear more!
There we go then, so its the BD-Z's fault then ;-)
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Constructive criticism and feedback always welcome, especially on technical issues!
Thanks to the community for all the help on the rack layout so that I could get to this point. Couldn't have done it without out you (well, I could've but it would've been far more painful, lol!)...:)
“You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Which custom FW is required for the model you descibed?
-- SimonSays
The official Mutable Instruments site that still hosts manuals / docs and original firmwares has a list of alternative third party firmwares available for each module.
The alternate Marbles FW is called Resurrection, and it has the "hidden" t mode available. The firmware has a host of other upgrades and some of the stuff available is quite complex. I haven't yet dabbled into it, but it's something I'm planning to try on my Marbles.
Sadly Mutable Instruments closed shop so a clone is your best bet. Good luck with your modular journey!
I’ve not used Grids yet - I’m fairly new to the game so I’m finding my way around. They aren’t super-common so I may need to go clone on that one in the short term.
I’ve just got Marbles this weeekend and have been playing… finding some sweet spots and watching DivKid videos so I’ll get better with it. Which custom FW is required for the model you descibed?
Aaaand… Pam’s is arriving Tuesday. I love Euclidean sequencing but this Anishri/Grids model really hot the spot for me earlier today so I’ve got some fun options :)
Oh, another negative about black faceplates that really got to me was the constant specks of dust that were visible on the system. Even though I'm fully aware the same amount of dust must be on my silver modules, I can relax much better in front of my synthesizer without having to constantly brush some specks off when I'm sitting in front of a full silver system.
Luckily there's still manufacturers who are doing silver plates so I don't have to bother with some custom designs (I really wouldn't).
I think modules like MI Clouds really showcase how much can be done with multicolored LEDs on an aluminium panel, the Blend interface is nothing short of genius. IMO FR4 panels feel cheap and lazy on devices that cost as much as Natural Gate or the Nautilus. Underneath the panel it's just multicolored LEDs, and the panel just diffuses the light.
Have you looked into Mutable Grids? It's the same principle -> scanning machine learned rhythmical tables for kick, snare and hihat + individual accent outputs. There's also a similiar rhythm generator on MI Marbles red T-mode with less outputs, and also an awesome stochastic (basically ML with probabilities) model hidden away in the code base (needs modified firmware to access).
For deep euclidean sequencing with great CV-control + lots of outputs Pamela's New/Pro Workouts are GOAT material.
Hey all - does anyone know of a sequencer and/or drums module that would behave like the Mutable Anushri drum section?
It’s a kind of Euclidean-meets-pattern-templates arrangement… two rotary controls to x/y ‘scan’ a pattern map for BD, SD and HH and then pattern-oriented density controls for the BD, SD and HH that can be used together to raise and lower energy, create breaks and fills etc.
There is a similar sequencer on the OP-1 (‘Finger’). It’s very performance oriented and a lot of fun to play. I’d love something like it in my rack?
(My Anushri is a desktop box and I’d like more CV control anyway)
Interestingly I get one heck of a good Kick out of the Befaco ADSR (all sliders down)
Whereas the ALM PipSlope won't even fire a kick off!
The WMD/SSF ADSRVCA will trigger a kick in one mode with the Decay turned up only.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Or you can use your trigger to trigger an envelope, that triggers the drum. For example, with Zadar, you can set it to 10V with a block shape and you can choose (or cv) the length. For fun and games, you can use non-trivial envelopes. For example, Zadar has 4x or 8x an upward sine or saw. You can use that #or ratchetting. Remember, most modules trigger when a signal going up goes over a threshold. No reason to limit yourself to blocks. I've had fun with triangle waves and noise in several shapes (for irregular triggers).
Having just soldered up a kit, I can confirm that the https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-system-addac217 does not improve the triggers from the DOT or the LL8 for triggering a Kick drum. What I do know is the the Arturia Beatstep Pro gives good triggers and makes the Kick drums nice and punchy.
Anyone need a Addac217? Pretty annoying that I just spent half an hour shuffling sliding nuts to get it into my percussion case!
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
There is a simple way to do this: you start by making a selection of modules through the features in the 'My Modular' section.
You choose for example: 1 sequencer, 1 or 2 vcos, 1 drum module, at least 1 vcf, 1 envelope generator, 1 vca, 1 lfo, 1 fx, some utilities like 1 multiple and 1 attenuator, 1 mixer, etc.
Don't be afraid to make a mistake, because it is on this basis that many here will be happy to correct your selection by explaining things to you. Okay?
Hi Guys
I am a music producer for more then 20 years but worked mainly with Ableton for the past 15 years.
Am a fan of UK Garage, Dub, Ambient and my main influences are artists like Four Tet, Floating Points, Burial etc...
I really wanted to get away from the PC screen and start jamming more.
Thats why I wanted to build my first eurorack that would not be dependent of a computer screen and would be suited for live jamming, with drums, bass, a versitile synth and some rack for vocal sampling. Goal is to create live music on the go in the same music spectrum as the artists I mentioned above. My problem now I have no idea where to start and could use some help for creating this rack. Money shouldnt be an issue, I just dont want it to take too much space in my studio, so I could pack it easily.
Any suggestions very welcome!
I'm with you on this one. I think the patchwork aesthetic suits the modular philosophy
-- padmasan
Nicely put.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
This seems strange to me, Why do people have an obsession with Black panels?
I'm enjoying the eclectic and wish those Red ADDAC modules were still a common thing, I don't want everything to be black, it can't just be me can it?
-- wishbonebrewery
I'm with you on this one. I think the patchwork aesthetic suits the modular philosophy
I’ve got it into modular rather late @64 yrs old and being honest it’s been mainly due to having more and more physical problems playing guitar so I got rid of some gear, bought a little Skulpt, then a Mother 32, got hooked, bought a Boog to go with it and then remembered my late little brothers huge Synthesisers.com modular rig, mostly built from kits, by the time he died it was damn near the size of Keith Emersons rig! Watched some YouTube vids and fell down the rabbit hole.
I thought ok I don’t really know what I’m doing so if I buy a rig I can see set up and running on YouTube then I’ll at least be on the right path. Yeah …famous last words..I know, so I bought a little ALM 6u 52hp Added Sono Abitus, a Rangoon, Monsoon, Vermona Melodicer & Pam’s new workout to start with, planning to add a nautilus delay & Morphagene later when funds allow. Ok so it works, it makes some rather satisfying and even occasionally tuneful noises but nothing like my chosen YouTubers little system pulls at what little hair I have left| I then got distracted and had an Oooh shiney moment when I saw a Brains module going cheap on Thomann along with a slim 4 channel mixer only to be slightly disappointed when it got here as I’d veered from my chosen path of a small ambient machine.
I’m persevering and have had lots of fun modulating with the Pam’s, and can’t wait to get my hands on the new one as the screen will be easier for me to see.
I’m not giving up though, I’m learning more each day from you guys on here and several YouTubers.
Dear non-designer Euro manufacturers. They look bad. Stop listening to the vocal minority. Look at the synths of old. Look how good Rossum and Synthtech looks compared to After Later. They make me wanna barf while I off myself, crying in the corner. They look foul and diseased. They look tacky and the contrast is horrible. Even Folktek looks miserable. Take some prozac guys
-- intowhite
Dear non-designer Euro manufacturers. They look bad. Stop listening to the vocal minority. Look at the synths of old. Look how good Rossum and Synthtech looks compared to After Later. They make me wanna barf while I off myself, crying in the corner. They look foul and diseased. They look tacky and the contrast is horrible. Even Folktek looks miserable. Take some prozac guys
They are so depressing and ugly. Spend all day looking at black cords and electronics everywhere already... Always get the silver panels when possible but apparently there are many edgelords with horrible design taste who are into eurorack, they are the majority. No big surprise - have you heard the youtube demos for most modules?
I'm going to order a Matt Black Vinyl wrap for my Toilet!
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Well, not really starting modular for real for now, but things has moved a bit, and I'm gonna start a full 54 hour week training in synthesis next week.
My setup is like this for now :
-Make Noise Cheap Easel (I'll soon get the 0-coast)
-Moog M-32 (not mine, won't keep it for long)
-Drumbrute Impact
-Line 6 DL4
-Boss SD1
-Angry Driver
-Big Muff Bass
-Folktek Alter x
-Doepfer A-100 LC1 (that I'll get from a friend soon) with DIY Braids, Clouds & Ear
-Plus VCV Rack2 and all kind of plugins in Reaper
I'm clearly not mastering every part of this setup now, but I hope to very soon.
I want to buy a Keystep 37 to control the 0-coast better, considering that I don't have any controller as for now.
I also kind of want to buy a Tiptop Mantis case like pretty soon and get some modules, a few, to complete this setup.
I just don't know what modules to get with ths setup, I think that in effects I'm pretty good with what I have for now, same goes for oscillators.
Maybe some random generators, enveloppe, filters, switch, logic, mixers, looper, sampler, utilites or CV modulation would be good?
Maybe a all in one module, like the Disting, Pam Pro Workout, Ornament & Crime or something like that?
I'm not a big fan of menu diving but maybe that's the first good module to start?
Personally, I don't care about the colour. I just want it to work. But I have noticed that this 'black panel' phenomenon has been growing and gaining ground for some time.
This 'limited black edition' fashion affects all sectors. An example with this telescopic handler for agriculture... Well, I can understand it here, we see the same trend in cars and motorbikes. But when you find this also for your toilet...