Someone somewhere will make a Stereo one at some point.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

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i wasnt't aware of the "Panning Law" which totally makes sense...

I found this passive stereo solution. But i assume the Panning Law is not respected:
https://myvolts.co.uk/product/82800/myVolts_Pots_and_Pans_-_potentiometer_volume_control_with_pan_mode_and_mute_button

it shouldn't be that hard to solder short cables with jacks of your choice onto this PCB...


At an affordable price (I have one ;) and it works well :) there is also this: https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/Koma-Elektronik-Attenuator-Cable/art-SYN0004623-000

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There's a few here - https://www.thonk.co.uk/product-category/hp-size/0hp/
And here - https://pushermanproductions.com/?s=workmate&post_type=product

But nothing Stereo.

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Exactly like that. @modular01
And I guess I could use 2x Attenuators per Stereo Pair to adjust, but isn't there something called Panning Law https://samplecraze.com/tutorials/the-pan-law/ and the way Panning should work versus just attenuating a split Stereo signal.

From what I can see, there's not really a cost effective module out there to handle the panning.
Though if someone made a 4-6hp module with 3-4 Stereo Panning channels it would be pretty handy.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

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I have to admit that I too was scratching my head when I read 'Zero HP'. But I did a search and finally found at least the cables.
Hmm, you'll have to make some sacrifices: https://hifi-solution.com/en/speaker-cable/1471-dragon-zero-hp.html

Now you still have to find the module, but frankly, all this worries me a bit.

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).


Thanks Garfield, I'll shame some Dreamies next time.

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...what I want is a Zero HP Passive Stereo Panner to connect between a Stereo source and my main mixing....
-- wishbonebrewery

@wishbonebrewery What do you mean with Zero HP?
Similar to a passive "inline attenuator" like that?

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Hi Wishbonebrewery,

I am not fully sure what you mean with no-HP modules, meaning you want an external solution? If that's what you mean, nothing pops up in my mind.

If you don't mind to consider a Eurorack module, then Make Noise - X-Pan module comes to mind but that's it, I think, not too many options out there.

Good luck for the search of this solution, please let me know if you found something, I also might want something into that direction and kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Hi Habn,

Wow, that's a great piece of ambient music, lovely and so relaxing! Nniiiiiccccceeeeeee ;-)

First I thought your track is 33 minutes long, that would be great but it turned out I looked wrong, it's only 3:30, next time 33 minutes? ;-)

Thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

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Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Great experimental track! I love the reverb sounds in this track, that does it for me :-)

Sweelinck mentioned it already and that was the first thing (besides the thoughts I had about your music of course) that came to my mind too: I am missing your cat in your video ;-)

Great work and thanks a lot for sharing that with us, kind regards, Garfield.

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Hi Igor,

Good and nice to hear from you again! Those two tracks that are currently available are two fantastic tracks! Well done. And what do I see? You are going to release the album on CD as well? I love the cover of this album, beautiful!

I look forward to your next album :-) Take care and kind regards, Garfield.

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I'm a regular viewer / listener :)

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https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Intellijel have announced a replacement for the Audio Interface II - see new module listings...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I've got a few mixers now, I've got CV-able Mono mixing that I can pan with voltage and mono-to-stereo panning mixers, and I've got Stereo mixers.
What I always want to do with stereo sources is to Pan the stereo slightly and it seems to me there are a bunch of No-hp modules around but what I want is a Zero HP Passive Stereo Panner to connect between a Stereo source and my main mixing.

I don't know if this is even possible.

Thoughts???

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


It was too early for cat modular, they chill out at the start of the mornings. Cheers

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20 minutes of good old Krell madness. I particularly like the solo between 17:00 and 18:00. I didn't understand anything he said, as I don't always understand the Krell language, but he said it so well...

It's remarkable how well this style of music fits with the simple film of the modular in action. The cables and flashing LEDs are Krell.

Only criticism: no black cat! But it's possible that she must have taken refuge under the table, or on top of the cupboard? Cats prefer mice.

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).


After watching the RedMeansRecording and then doing the walk-thru from MoltenMusicTech I had a go at creating a Krell Patch on the eurorack.
Not strictly self-playing as I'm shooting the Input of the Befaco VC ADSR a trigger from Mutable Instruments Marbles, Marbles is mainly used as a modulation source. The Gate-out of the Sustain stage on the Befaco Triggers the Sample & Hold and changes the Oscillator pitch. Lots of modulation from Ochd, Clep Diaz, Marbles & the 2hp RND.

You can ignore all the wires, I have 2 patches going on here, and I ease in a patch built around the Error Instruments Indian Resonator about half way through, the Indian Resonator works great when you combine it with a Sine wave and stick it through a Wavefolder so there are 2 parts that come from that.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hey there! I've been on this site for quite some time but this is my first time posting here. Just wanted to share with you guys my humble youtube channel where I upload mainly ambient and drone patches using my eurorack system, usually with some patch notes attached in the descriptions:

Also wanted to share with you my music. I've released some ambient/drone albums that you might find interesting using just the eurorack system showed in my videos.

https://habn.bandcamp.com/

Cheers!


Quite similar to Intellijel Audio Interface II, available, cheaper and less HP: 4ms Listen IO (I've been using it for live use for 3 years, and with great satisfaction).

These two modules which are less known, with several inputs/outputs, but of which one says a lot of good: Bubblesound Instruments Booster Stage and Reducer (I have the Booster, perfect to make enter synthesizers or drum machines for example).

Credible and affordable solution: Erica Synths Pico Input and Output.

More sophisticated, more expensive, and probably at the top of the podium: Joranalogue Audio Design Receive 2 and Transmit 2, or the superb ACL Audio Interface.

If you want to multitrack in a software (Logic, Ableton, etc.), you'll have to include the Expert Sleepers solutions: ES-8, ES-9.

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).


I would suggest trying going straight into the mixing desk/audio interface 1st...

if that clips then try attenuation on the way out...

if you still have noise then try an isolated output module

you will almost definitely need some form of amplification on the way in though

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Ahhhh thanks ! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊😊😊


The Joranalogue Receive and Transmit are good choices IMO. Personally I prefer to mic my keyboard amp and run that into the audio interface on my PC when I'm recording, but I use the Receive module to input sounds from my non-modular keyboards and it works very well. It can handle XLR mics too.


Hello,
I’m pretty new to all things modular but I’m thinking about entering the jungle. One direction I’m thinking about to head into is to slowly start to build a rack which also gives me the opportunity to feed external sound sources into and out of a system. For example l’d like to feed some sounds through nice filter modules etc. I was looking at modules like the Intellijel Audio Interface II, which provides the opportunity for stereo line level i/o‘s. Unfortunately that particular module is discontinued. So I was wondering if there are any suggestions for alternative modules, which do the same, or maybe totally different solutions for this kind of task?
I would like to integrate a modular system in my already existing environment: mixing desk -> interface -> daw or the other way around. Anything I should be cautious about?
Thanks in advance!


many of the modules in this system are currently unobtainium, so I will definitely have to wait. Still, it would be great to read opinions on specific concerns for the rack I've outlined.

this is almost always the case... most modular manufacturers are very small companies (often 1-4 staff in total) and as such really only do small(ish) runs of modules and then do another run once those are sold, which can mean that components are unavailable and modules need redesigning between runs - and that's not taking into account the ongoing disturbance in the electrical component supply chain - caused by the pandemic

  1. VCAs, Attenuverters & Mixing. I know you can never have enough VCAs, but does it seem like I have an appropriate amount for this rack? How about attenuverters and channels for mixing?

vcas - probably enough, maybe too many - depends how you use them... audio only or also for modulating modulation (this is a good idea!)

attenuverters - again depends how you use them, stacking attenuators and attenuverters can help give very fine control to modulation - again this can be a very good idea

mixing - well I wouldn't be happy with it... there's not a lot other than the vcas and the quadratt for mixing - you have multi channel modules - akemie's, er-301, surface, nautilus - which would almost definitely benefit from stereo channels and mono modules that would almost definitely benefit from panning into a stereo space in order to mix with the stereo modules - do you have an external mixer???? and then there's no provision for mixing modulation sources - I really like a matrix mixer for this

I'd put some more effort into thinking about how you are actually going to mix both audio and modulation, if I were you

  1. Akemie's Castle. This module is so large, but every time I consider something else, I keep coming back to how good the Castle sounds. The only other oscillator I have seriously considered as a replacement is Akemie's Taiko. The smaller footprint is nice, but it seems much more limited compared to the Castle. I am more interested in the chords and melodic sounds the Castle can make rather than drum sounds. Also, I included a fair amount of modulation in this rack in part to feed the Castle. With this in mind, would anyone recommend Taiko plus 20hp worth of other modules over Akemie's Castle?

maybe the real problem is not that the module is too large, but that the case is too small or there are just too many modules in it - trying to do too much in too small a space...

please take a look at my signature and spend some time thinking about it... it's basically a 1 line guide to building the most versatile modular synthesizer for the least cash - & it scales well up to very large systems - you don't have to take

I'd remove half the sound sources and try to replan from there - and only buy a minimum viable synth to start and add to it slowly

  1. Ornament & Crime. I want to proceed with caution when it comes to deep menu diving in my modular. Pam’s and Zadar seem shallow as far as menus go. The ER-301 has a lot of functions I am excited about , and seems well worth the time-cost of learning it. I feel less enthused about Ornament and Crime. However, the number of functions seem to be a good value for the (1U) space it takes up. I imagine I will leave it as a quantizer the majority of the time and otherwise use it to fill gaps in my system.

I don't have one but o & C appears to be quite a useful module - especially with the hemispheres firmware - so you can use 2 functions at once

  1. Zadar and Batumi Expanders. Are they worth the 6hp in a system this size? The extra modulation possibilities with the Zadar expansion seem especially nice. The Batumi expansion seems convenient, but less enticing. Since each is 3hp, it sort of makes sense to me to get both if I want one. There are no other modules I am currently interested in that are an odd hp.

I have both of these modules and their expanders - and I definitely think they are worth it - but I have a lot more hp - saying that by reducing the number of sound sources (see above) you may end up with enough space for them - and yes they are a great help in evening each other out - but saying that a 1hp gap isn't that big a deal and blind panels are available

  1. Surface and Nautilus. Both seems like interesting modules, but I chose them over similar modules largely because of hp concerns. I wanted to add one physical modeling voice, but sort of feel that there are enough voices in this rack given the size. I also wanted one delay/reverb outside of the ER-301. Still, neither is a “must” and I would be open to other suggests of what to do with this 24hp.

yes - too many sound sources in too small a case -> not enough support modules - nautlius is a delay and not a reverb... maybe concentrate on one or 2 things in this case and leave physical modelling for the next... consider: as you buy modules put aside their share of the cost of the rack in a piggy bank (or similar) and you will have the funds for the next rack by the time this one is full

hope this helps...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I've added the link for you here:

ModularGrid Rack

it's much easier for us to comment on when we can have mouse over and click through on your proposed rig... there are over 10k modules and no one knows them all...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Hi all!

I'm back here, but today I wanna share the new album of my band!
Gamardah Fungus "To The Stars And Back".
It was recorded with the help of eurorack modular and electric guitars and it will out in May.
You can already listen and make a pre-order here:

https://gamardahfungus.bandcamp.com/album/to-the-stars-and-back

my module


Thanks everyone, I´ll think about it calmly :-)


Long time lurker, first time poster

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2219285.jpg

I am selling some unused equipment and finally diving into modular. I want a system that can primarily stand on its own but also be used as an effect processor as a secondary function. I have a Prophet 6, Analog Rytm, and guitars to feed into the system / play along with. I am planning to build this system bit by bit, buying modules as gear sells, so I am sure I will be adjusting my needs along the way. Also, many of the modules in this system are currently unobtainium, so I will definitely have to wait. Still, it would be great to read opinions on specific concerns for the rack I've outlined.

  1. VCAs, Attenuverters & Mixing. I know you can never have enough VCAs, but does it seem like I have an appropriate amount for this rack? How about attenuverters and channels for mixing?

  2. Akemie's Castle. This module is so large, but every time I consider something else, I keep coming back to how good the Castle sounds. The only other oscillator I have seriously considered as a replacement is Akemie's Taiko. The smaller footprint is nice, but it seems much more limited compared to the Castle. I am more interested in the chords and melodic sounds the Castle can make rather than drum sounds. Also, I included a fair amount of modulation in this rack in part to feed the Castle. With this in mind, would anyone recommend Taiko plus 20hp worth of other modules over Akemie's Castle?

  3. Ornament & Crime. I want to proceed with caution when it comes to deep menu diving in my modular. Pam’s and Zadar seem shallow as far as menus go. The ER-301 has a lot of functions I am excited about , and seems well worth the time-cost of learning it. I feel less enthused about Ornament and Crime. However, the number of functions seem to be a good value for the (1U) space it takes up. I imagine I will leave it as a quantizer the majority of the time and otherwise use it to fill gaps in my system.

  4. Zadar and Batumi Expanders. Are they worth the 6hp in a system this size? The extra modulation possibilities with the Zadar expansion seem especially nice. The Batumi expansion seems convenient, but less enticing. Since each is 3hp, it sort of makes sense to me to get both if I want one. There are no other modules I am currently interested in that are an odd hp.

  5. Surface and Nautilus. Both seems like interesting modules, but I chose them over similar modules largely because of hp concerns. I wanted to add one physical modeling voice, but sort of feel that there are enough voices in this rack given the size. I also wanted one delay/reverb outside of the ER-301. Still, neither is a “must” and I would be open to other suggests of what to do with this 24hp.

Thanks, everyone!


hey, good stuff, I'm enjoying the samples in there.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


hello

my youtube channel is now running in sync with my instagram

you can find long versions of my patches.

some are generative ones, some are more jam oriented.

videos and presentations are simples, because i only do that as a sort of archive

i invite you to subscribe, and if you like or have any questions, please feel free to comment 😊

please find my latest upload :


Unfortunatly, they ceased their activity.


is this company still around? we should mark all their modules as discontinued


Sexy 😍🕺


I have just published my 2nd EP, Major Triad.

https://arrandan.bandcamp.com/album/major-triad

It's an exploration of the notes C-E-G (do-re-sol), based on a study of three-note combinations that showed this trio to be pretty good in harmonics. The EP contains three tracks exploring this. As the base of the music is minimal (just three notes), the style has been kept minimal as well. The whole album was composed and played on a Eurorack synth, recorded on an iPad and mastered afterwards.

Released on Bandcamp today. By the way - on Friday it's Bandcamp Friday!

Modular playlist on SoundCloud


Another LFO, this one from Cubusynth.
4 outputs, each with different rates (and changing available ranges by swapping capacitors).
Very simple build, would be a great first module. All surface mount pre-soldered.
Only has a triangle wave, which is a bit limiting. Also, I found that the peaks of each LFO were not quite in sync (see ‘scope traces during the demo) which isn’t perfect.
Overall a good kit.

Build


Thanks a lot! Vous faites vraiment un excellent travail. Document téléchargé. Congratulations!

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Téléchargé. Beau travail !
Merci.


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As usual, smart contact and fine transaction with @Astcfx
Recommended Seller.


Hi,
I don't know Strymon module but addac has two independent lines, to make two independents pedal's chains.
Addac Isn't stereo,
I don't know if that feature is necessary for you.
Best regards,
-- ferranadsr

I think I would like stereo :)


Hi,
I don't know Strymon module but addac has two independent lines, to make two independents pedal's chains.
Addac Isn't stereo,
I don't know if that feature is necessary for you.
Best regards,


Sorry, I meant to say start with a 6U case, not a 9U case.
Regarding the pedal, does it have a MIDI output? Normally to integrate pedals with Eurorack an ext module is used that amplifies/attenuates the outputs/returns.
For example
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-system-addac200pi-
it has 2 channels (for two independent pedal lines).
Best regards,
-- ferranadsr

Cool, yeah the 6u would be ideal I think.

Microcosm has in and out midi, I also have Strymon Night Sky and Volante. Both have midi in and out. I just seen this Strymon module on the Nano samples case youtube videos, would love to incorporate my guitar and pedals, never thought that was possible.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/strymon-aa-1
is that much different from the adda one you linked?


Sorry, I meant to say start with a 6U case, not a 9U case.
Regarding the pedal, does it have a MIDI output? Normally to integrate pedals with Eurorack an ext module is used that amplifies/attenuates the outputs/returns.
For example
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-system-addac200pi-
it has 2 channels (for two independent pedal lines).
Best regards,


Hi and welcome,
Better the link to the rack, so we can check the modules...
ModularGrid Rack
To complement the Turing Machine a quantizer would go well
This is cheap and two-channel
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-156
You talk about delays and effects, but I don't see any module of this type in your rack. I imagine that you intend to take the signal to the strega, but I would recommend at least some effects module with good modulation sources.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-mimeophon
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-nautilus
Do you plan to use an external mixer for the different sources?
This has a good quality/price/characteristics ratio
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-tex-mix-master-section
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-tex-mix-4-stereo-channels
I see you have plenty of voices, but if you want to keep a second oscillator and if the DIY issue is not important, for a 3340-type VCO I would recommend something like
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-sto
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/nano-modules-ona
To complement your modulation sources I would add an additional mixer/att, highly recommended
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-triplatt
And think of some clock divider, sequential switch, utilities are very important.
And definitely, start with a 9U case, even if you don't fill it at first, you will end up needing space, you have modules that consume a lot of HP.
Do not be overwhelmed, start little by little and you will see what you need.
Greetings,
-- ferranadsr

Hi ferranadsr,

ModularGrid Rack

mega thanks for your reply and feedback. Obviously as I'm new I am a bit overwhelmed and also lost with all the modules, but better to start with some idea and hopefully, with some good feedback like this, I'll have a better idea when I build.

I was originally looking at the Nano Modules CAIXA 104, recommended buy my local shop. I think it would be worth it for all the utilities etc but a lot of money to spend when I think I'll need at least a 6u quicker than I thought.

Love all the modules you linked, I'm now thinking if I go for a 6u then I can have my voices and filters etc on the bottom row and top row for effects and utilities. Is that what most people do?

I thought I had added Happy Nerding FX Audio, I was recommended this on Facebook as a good effect module. I have added it now.

Size is a big issue for me, I would love to try keep things at 6u maximum if possible, I'm hoping if I plan it right I will get close to where I need to be.

I have the Microcosm Delay pedal as well so would love to incorporate this into some of the voices but I would need a midi module to sync it, can you recommend one that would do the job, wou be iel if I could midi sync Matriarch as well..possible?

I'll go and watch some more videos on the ones you sent link for and work on a 6u case and see what I can get now.

All the best
Indy


Nice demo of Fugue Machine and more. I've had my eye on it for a while but never got round to trying it out. Your video definitely shows that even with a tool like this, there is still an art in making a good fugue/canon. Being into classical music, I'm not sure the percussion should be needed ;-) I didn't know Disting Ex had a 4x Plaits mode. I'm traditionally not a fan of multi purpose modules. But I'm getting an O_C because it seems like the best option for a quantiser. I might need to check out the Disting Ex later on, too.

Modular playlist on SoundCloud


Hi and welcome,
Better the link to the rack, so we can check the modules...
ModularGrid Rack
To complement the Turing Machine a quantizer would go well
This is cheap and two-channel
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-156
You talk about delays and effects, but I don't see any module of this type in your rack. I imagine that you intend to take the signal to the strega, but I would recommend at least some effects module with good modulation sources.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-mimeophon
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-nautilus
Do you plan to use an external mixer for the different sources?
This has a good quality/price/characteristics ratio
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-tex-mix-master-section
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-tex-mix-4-stereo-channels
I see you have plenty of voices, but if you want to keep a second oscillator and if the DIY issue is not important, for a 3340-type VCO I would recommend something like
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-sto
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/nano-modules-ona
To complement your modulation sources I would add an additional mixer/att, highly recommended
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-triplatt
And think of some clock divider, sequential switch, utilities are very important.
And definitely, start with a 9U case, even if you don't fill it at first, you will end up needing space, you have modules that consume a lot of HP.
Do not be overwhelmed, start little by little and you will see what you need.
Greetings,


Or touch the metal body of the car on a dry and windy day.


HI, very new to modular. I have already bought Maths and Plaits (Good deal so went for it).
I hve put this rack together going with what I've found out so far, looking for help and any suggestions. I'm not sure if I should get a 3u or 6u case yet.
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2218346.jpg
My initial thought is to get 3u just now and save to get something like the Make Noise case.

I have a Moog Matriarch which I want to incorporate with this rack and also Make Noise O-Coast and Strega. I have an OXI One sequencer.
I want to make lots of harmonies with lovely delays and some rhythm sections aand have lots of fun learning.

Thanks
Indy