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This lil unit can do more than you can imagine, don't let it fool you. :)
-- ANTONIVS

My Mimaroglu variation :

-- Jihel

Interesting, what does the Sloth and Hypster do?

The complete Behringer System 15 as in the original Moog System 15. Only extras added: Pico Out (so you can use your headphones), Endophin.es Milky Way ( so you can have onboard reverb or echo), and Behringer CM1A ( so that you can connect a keyboard to the system via MIDI to CV). All fitted like a glove inside an 84HP 9U. :)

Hi Antonivs,

Yet another little-box-puzzle, looks great! :-) How is your experience with the Erica Synths - Fusion Delay, worth the investment? Kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

Erica Synths modules are incredible. They give you so much for the money. They are also well built. Whenever you buy an Erica Synth module they go deeper than most for the price. Jean Michel Jarre himself approves of them. The fusion delay took me a while to figure what to do with it. It sat in a box for months. I had tried different combinations but finally it made its way into this one and it worked beautifully. This allows for the unit to sound vintage like Tangerine Dream and yet modern when you feel like it. Crossed with the DSP2 and you can get some incredibly beautiful stereo sounds.

Looks sick, would love to hear some jams ⛈️⛈️⛈️
-- troux

sick in a bad way due to synthrotek...

-- JimHowell1970

That Synthrotek Sequence 8 is pretty flexible for a lil sequencer. I tried several small ones, this one was ultimately the best for the job. ;)

Looks sick, would love to hear some jams ⛈️⛈️⛈️
-- troux

Coming up soon, thanks :)

Guess whose tune is first?!?
https://aetherwaves.bandcamp.com/album/ther-waves-vol-3

I used to want these prebuilt modular systems when I first got into modular and had a small Doepfer A100 Basic system but the real joy is mixing different modules from vendors for a truly custom instrument. That’s a lot of the appeal to me anyways.

In my opinion the first version of the Erica Synths Liquid Sky Dada System was the best because it is compact and well equipped to make soundscapes from another world. You can also do some synthesis to aids into the sound nonetheless. If you love manipulating audio and adding a sprinkle of electronic music you will love this unit. I removed the Pico Drums because I prefer electronic music with no beats whatsoever. I like to feel like I have a blank canvas and I am painting some abstract piece for the ears.

Hi Antonivs,

Yet another little-box-puzzle, looks great! :-) How is your experience with the Erica Synths - Fusion Delay, worth the investment? Kind regards, Garfield.

I think small cases are great for pulling stuff out from the big system to either concentrate on or take on travels

but as main systems and for starters they suck as they are too constraining and don't really allow the owner to work out what they really need in a single system

manufacturers are making small cases because people are buying them - doesn't mean it's a good idea in most cases, though

Hi Antonivs,

Well, now I do realise that ;-) No, I didn't know you had three modular cases, good to hear that, now I understand your reasoning, then it sounds indeed fair enough. Just in case you didn't had that, wanted to warn you. I am glad to hear for you this is rather fun and a puzzle how to come to a compact rack! :-)

Just one thing that wonders me, don't you feel it's pity to use in such small rack the HP space by the rather large 0-coast and 0-ctrl modules? Of course they are very powerful modules that can do a lot, so from that point seen, indeed it might make sense. Either way, I like to wish you good luck with your little-box-puzzle :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Looks sick, would love to hear some jams ⛈️⛈️⛈️
-- troux

sick in a bad way due to synthrotek...

Looks sick, would love to hear some jams ⛈️⛈️⛈️

Dream up some stormy weather with this unit. Very compact, don't let the small size fool you. Make it rain. :)

You do realize that I might have like three modular cases in difference sizes right? and that perhaps some people might want something small and compact and fun for the money. Bigger doesn't always make it better. Great things do come in small packages. This modular is just a small system out of many other small systems I like to create for a quick compact travel buddy to the park etc. If you go look online many companies are beginning to make small 60HP 6U cases for a reason. It is more challenging and fun making a small system, try it some time ;)

Hi MO1C,

This is a great and lovely demo of the Waldorf - NW1 module! Nice and clear camera view on this fantastic module too!

Such a pity that Waldorf decided to stop producing Eurorack modules :-( Instead they should have produced more different modules, I like their style and the spacious front plates, very comfortable user interface. They only should have used knobs with a better colour contrast regarding the indicator. That little black dot on a silver knob is not fantastic (depending on how the studio light falls onto the module).

Thank you very much for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Antonivs,

You know what they say here on this forum, right? You can never have enough VCAs, so add a 10 or 20 VCAs and then yes... might be... ;-)

I would miss some modulators like LFOs and EGs, so 10 or 20 of them too... then several filters for some variations.... em... all you need? ;-) If it's not too late you might want to consider a larger rack, you are limiting yourself here pretty much. Not even mentioned the expensive space you are using in this little box for 0-coast and 0-ctrl (remove them from this box and let them use their original casing saves you HP space and +12 V power supply troubles), both fantastic desktop-modules though! :-)

Have fun with the little box and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Gumbo23,

This is a lovely demo. It's nice relaxed music, very enjoyable! In parallel it's interesting to see you at work with your modular system!

Nice video and demo and I wouldn't mind to hear/see more demos from you :-) Thank you very much and kind regards, Garfield.

All you will need is in this box. :D

maybe some Serge-type modules?

Also the Serge TKB, either from Random Source or Analogue Research. Expensive and a lot of HP but very powerful sequencer. And the NTO (New Timbral Oscillator) from Random Source. Analogue Research also has a few other Serge modules.

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Three of the most inspiring modules I've ever met - absolutely made for each other. A simple jam, just a little gentle tweaking. Usta is also sequencing the bassline on Rings (who knew?) and the Numeric Repetitor which is feeding the Squid Sample and Basimilus.

Here is what I came up with:

to start with please read through the recent thread 'this should not exist' for all the reasons not to buy either b-company or synthrotek products - only you and your conscience can decide... but note that at least some stores have stopped stocking synthrotek due to the fact that they are poor quality and do not have adequate product support not just because of Steve's online rape jokes...

the waldorf mod-1 modular is best described as huge and oversized for a rack this size (or any to be honest) Maths would be a better replacement - a bit smaller and if you search a bit online you will find the 'maths illustrated manual' - which is an excellent learning tool resource for modular synthesis in general; even if you do not buy the module - but it might make you buy it!!!

too many 2hp modules - they are horrible from an ergonomics point of view - especially when next to each other or between other modules that are densely populated!

most modular synthesists do not use eq - filters are more prevelant and do similar things - but with added benefits - resonance and possibly self-oscillation for example

other than that - m'eh, but each to their own in a way - I'd start slowly:

a sound source, a sound modulator, a modulation source, a way to listen and a way to play and add a few utility modules: I like links, kinks, shades, veils and a matrix mixer as a starter kit (kinks is discontinued - wmd/ssf toolbox is a good substitute) and you have veils and a 3*mia (which is a good substitute for shades) and then play with that for a while to get your head round what you are actually doing and what modules you actually need (as opposed to thinking you want now) and add to the rack slowly

I hope all this helps!!!

EDITED Oct 4th 2021, 16:12

A few days ago I realized the potential for modular, after being unexcited by current hardware synths. And realized I could make my dream synth, and a soundtrack machine for video games.

a lot of people spend many months if not years researching before buying - I spent at least 1.5 years myself between realising I wanted a modular (or in fact realising I had already got some parts of a modular with out knowing it in the form of moogerfooger, lovetone and frostwave pedals) and buying a case and any modules

I would strongly suggest doing much, much more research before spending a penny on this project

Some advice and recommendations would be fantastic!
Here is what I want to accomplish:

-Important stuff to fit into Arturia's 6u case so it will go along with my Minibrute 2 and have the feel of a complete musical instrument. (and so I will be less likely to get g.a.s.)

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - not going to happen... eurorack modular has so many new and potentially useful modules coming out constantly that - the only way to truely avoid gas in modular is once you have got a single case full and functional to never ever: watch you tube, go to a modular forum, go to a modular store or talk to anyone who has anything to do with modular - this is difficult if you have a modular!!!

FEATURES:
-Be similar to my most used vst's, Reaktor Prism and Kontour, but mixed with the Arp Odyssey, Dreadbox Nyx.
(I have seen Rings, Elements, Plaits and those kind of modules, but I would like to have more control over the creation and be more analogue. I am unsure of Rings. . .)

I think you are asking too much of 6u / 88hp here - maybe it would be better to think of modular as complimentary to your vst based system instead of trying to duplicate or replace it

--I like the usage of comb filters and feedback loops in those vst's, I want those features, and have various different routes available for those.

rings is very similar to a comb filter when used as an effect and not a sound source

--That Paradox dual VCO is interesting, similar to a feature in Kontour. (I like strange stuff like that)

patching together multiple simple vcos may actually be more interesting!!!! but if it's a must have also look at other complex oscillators - DPO, FurtherGenerator etc etc there are tonnes and they all sound a bit different and have slightly different features

-I prefer envelopes over LFO's for shaping a sound over time. Want more complex Envelopes, and or can be gate delayed. I think the three LFO's on the minibrute 2 would be enough for me.

there are envelopes and there are envelopes and there are lfos and lfos - all are good - a looping envelope generator is effectively a uni-polar lfo - sometimes you will want bi-polar too!!! - function generators are also very popular and interesting modules - really though mixing all of these together to get even more interesting modulation is the best policy - use a matric mixer

-I definitely want a spring reverb. Probably another reverb to finish off the sound. I want those to be able to go into feedback loops.

yes it's a good patching technique - a matrix mixer is really useful for feedback patching as well as modulation... I would consider a multi-effect such as fx aid xl as an end of chain reverb - maybe multiples of this module

-FM, ring modulation, waveshaping would be nice.

all widely available

-Definitely have multiples/multiplier? modules.

Utilities (of which mults are but 1 type are incredibly useful and inexpensive tools in a modular which are almost definitely hidden or non-existant in fixed architecture and soft synths

_Clouds, Monsoon, is pretty interesting.

Beads is worth looking at instead

-It might be interesting to have the possibility to get a binaural stereo sound with a comb filter for each side.

until recently stereo and polyphony were out of scope (to a large extent) in modular as too expensive - this is not the case anymore - but in some cases it may be - possibly check out the raincatcher by

-Have various ways to alter or shape feedback loops.

covered by above - only limit is your patching ability and imagination (and wallet)

Some previous related ideas and thoughts:
-What if reverb was a sound source?

reverb does kind of need something to use as a seed - reverberated silence should (in a perfect world) be silence, but see no-input mixing

-Reaktor Prism but with analogue VCO's instead of noise.
-A pool of reverbed noise (which can my modified before being released), let out at specific frequencies corresponding to the note pressed, then sculpted with comb filter/s - then a juicy analogue filter on top of that - with a reverb on the end; various feedback loops to add more harmonics.

see also fixed filter bank

-How to make extreme feedback more musical?

with extreme difficulty - or just reappraise what you hear as musical!!

I like sounds whose origin is uncertain. Maybe surreal sounds.
For a sci-fi game, I want some sounds that are like the sound of the universe yelling out because its being eaten by a black hole. And sounds that have the same flavor or characteristics as a bowed gong.

all easily possible in eurorack - as are chirping bird sounds, beep and boops, drones etc etc

Here is what I came up with:

and I will probably eventually get a little expander case, for extra less important stuff, utilities, complex LFO, MIDI to CV for multi note playing. . .

yeah yeah I started with a 6u / 72 hp case and thought I'd only expand a bit from that - 4.5years later I have 1500hp of audio and video modular synthesizer

What do you think? Better modules out there? Better ways to go about it?

The Modor comb filter is stereo - so if I only plugged one cable out of it, I would only get half the signal?

generally if you plug a sound source into only say the left channel of a stereo effects module and take only one patch cable out of the left output - then you will get a mono signal... - sometimes depending on the module if the algorithm it is using converts mono->stereo then it's dependent on how the algorithm works - reading the actual manual of the module is the best way to actually understand what is going on and the only way to get a conclusive answer to your question for the specific module

Can I just take the audio out of a VCA and use a 1/8 to 1/4 jack converter to go to my audio interface?

-- vansting

a basic passive attenuator will do the job a lot of the time - if you have a 1/2 decent audio interface that has a pad on the inputs then you may not even need this - if you have a good audio interface that has balanced inputs then you may want to get an output module that has balanced outputs - the best way to find out is to start with less and if you have issues add more in this order

using 1/8" -> 1/4" cables (converters are bad as they put strain on jacks which may need replacing sooner if you put strain on them) whatever last modules is in audio path, add atttenuators (passive, cheap, always useful), add output module, add better output module

Still liking my NW1. One thing it isn't designed for, is audiorate FM. But if you're into glitchy sounds, embrace this bug, for being a feature ;)

random*source or elby for serge in eurorack... luke teaford on modwiggler is a bit of an expert - searching for his posts can glean a lot of information...

Dual Universal Slope Generator, Smooth and Stepped Generator, Resonant EQ, Variable Slope VCF, Variable Q VCF, Triple Waveshaper, Divide by N Comparator, New Timbral Oscillator and Wave Multiplier - would be the most interesting to add of those available from random*source - some maybe in multiples

Just a first test

When I click on your rack, I still see PNW in the 3rd row...
Now, the manual extract above should help you setting the BPM on Pam's.
Regardless, my advice is once again to read the manual in its entirety, it's actually pretty good and a must read for a module as "complex" as PNW, the range of functionality on offer is huge !
An alternative is watching the excellent DivKid video (however something as basic as setting BPM might not be touched on, I'm afraid):

Skipping the manual and the video, you risk missing out on things it can do that could help/inspire your next patch, so read up ;)

for some reason the rack picture isent the rack,i have the pams new workout

So you want to know how to set the BPM with PNW but you don't own that module yet since it's in your bottom row ? Just asking because setting the BPM with Pam's is litterally the module's default screen as well as the very first thing explained in the module's Getting Started section of its user manual...

When initially powered on, Pamela’s NEW Workout’s display shows the current clock tempo setting in beats per minute (BPM). Clicking and then twisting the main blue program knob highlights and then adjusts this BPM value between its maximum and minimum values when turned. Clicking again deselects.

btw i dont have the modules in the bottom row(thats modules i need to check out

Can anyone point me in the right direction about setting up clock(bpm to 90bpm in my rack

im making mostly Dark Ambientish Music

here is my rack in work

It's on me for the "B-company" questions above...

Focusing back on this rack, I'd be curious to hear people say:

1. what's the best of this rack, e.g. the coolest aspects of bringing back these various classic designs in Eurorack and into a single case?

2. are there other killer classic adds to consider for (a bigger version of) this rack, maybe some Serge-type modules?

A few days ago I realized the potential for modular, after being unexcited by current hardware synths. And realized I could make my dream synth, and a soundtrack machine for video games.

Some advice and recommendations would be fantastic!
Here is what I want to accomplish:

-Important stuff to fit into Arturia's 6u case so it will go along with my Minibrute 2 and have the feel of a complete musical instrument. (and so I will be less likely to get g.a.s.)

FEATURES:
-Be similar to my most used vst's, Reaktor Prism and Kontour, but mixed with the Arp Odyssey, Dreadbox Nyx.
(I have seen Rings, Elements, Plaits and those kind of modules, but I would like to have more control over the creation and be more analogue. I am unsure of Rings. . .)
--I like the usage of comb filters and feedback loops in those vst's, I want those features, and have various different routes available for those.
--That Paradox dual VCO is interesting, similar to a feature in Kontour. (I like strange stuff like that)
-I prefer envelopes over LFO's for shaping a sound over time. Want more complex Envelopes, and or can be gate delayed. I think the three LFO's on the minibrute 2 would be enough for me.
-I definitely want a spring reverb. Probably another reverb to finish off the sound. I want those to be able to go into feedback loops.
-FM, ring modulation, waveshaping would be nice.
-Definitely have multiples/multiplier? modules.
_Clouds, Monsoon, is pretty interesting.
-It might be interesting to have the possibility to get a binaural stereo sound with a comb filter for each side.
-Have various ways to alter or shape feedback loops.

Some previous related ideas and thoughts:
-What if reverb was a sound source?
-Reaktor Prism but with analogue VCO's instead of noise.
-A pool of reverbed noise (which can my modified before being released), let out at specific frequencies corresponding to the note pressed, then sculpted with comb filter/s - then a juicy analogue filter on top of that - with a reverb on the end; various feedback loops to add more harmonics.
-How to make extreme feedback more musical?

Here are some similar sounds to what I would like this synth to achieve:
(That smooth bass, feedback sound; starts right at 9:05)

(The more cinematic sounds in this:

(especially the bass sound 22:14

I like sounds whose origin is uncertain. Maybe surreal sounds.
For a sci-fi game, I want some sounds that are like the sound of the universe yelling out because its being eaten by a black hole. And sounds that have the same flavor or characteristics as a bowed gong.

Here is what I came up with:

and I will probably eventually get a little expander case, for extra less important stuff, utilities, complex LFO, MIDI to CV for multi note playing. . .

What do you think? Better modules out there? Better ways to go about it?

The Modor comb filter is stereo - so if I only plugged one cable out of it, I would only get half the signal?
Can I just take the audio out of a VCA and use a 1/8 to 1/4 jack converter to go to my audio interface?

Hi Farkas,

Oh that's great, I am glad I could be of some help. I hope you will like the SEM filter from Doepfer and I look forward in hearing a demo from you about it :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Removed typo.

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Hi Bleepadelic,

It's indeed a very nice result, the old historic recordings with your modular, a nice thought, a nice memory, a nice result! :-)

Thank you very much for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Anubiz,

Great, another nice MIDI file realised in modular :-)

Thanks a lot for sharing with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Indeed I’m a big fan of Schlappi modules. I’m looking forward to Three Eye and Boundary when these come out. Along with IME/Harvestman and Noise Engineering modules, I have my industrial and techno needs met.

Dug out an old Sony Walkman from the 80s and plugged it into my rack. Ran it into my interface at first just to see if it would even turn on and was surprised to find that a lot of the FM radio stations were still there and still playing the same music they would have been playing the last time I used it. That is where I got the title for this piece. These stations are ensconced in amber, stuck in place and perfectly preserved history. In a way I was dismayed that they seem kind of stuck in place for 30 plus years, on the other hand I am glad that all that music wasn't just thrown away and forgotten.

The first thing that I did was started adding plugins on top and made a really cool piece that I was thinking of posting here, but it isn't at all modular. I'm not sure if anyone would want a Walkman + Ableton plugins track posted here. Then I ran it into my rack and had fun for hours. This is a little bit of that.

Wow, seriously so cool...just beautiful all the way around man.

That 3U was just about there, but there was a signal discontinuity between the mono VCO and the stereo VCF. Fixed that with the Minsk, which lets the user adjust a mono signal into stereo...and natch, it's post-VCA and pre-VCF. Also, I went with the Veils due to the convenient "breakable" mixbus, as I wasn't sure that the Erica had that. But now, this lets the user use one of the Veils VCAs for signal-to-Minsk levels and then there's plenty left for the stereo output and that STILL leaves a VCA free for modulation level control. So here it is...
-- Lugia

Well, I'll take this as a sign of my learning progress to be 'almost there' :) Its interesting that the discontinuity comes between modules made by the same manufacturer. So, with the Neutron Flux being 'stereo' does that mean I could route the mono out from the demon core osc and use just 'half' of it and technically i could route another mono vco to the other half? If I had my 6U and 3U sitting next to each other, I could take the out from the Ts-L into the other half of the filter? (I think my Sirius' Veil allows me to do that)?
To be honest, I was looking at Veils for this too but for different (dumber) reason which was just to have something different to use but it sounds like Veils is the way to go here for sure. When yo usay 'breakable' mixbus, do you mean that each channel can be used independently?

I have looked into the Erica Dual VCF. Sounds great. Finally just ordered a Doepfer SEM. Thanks again!

That 3U was just about there, but there was a signal discontinuity between the mono VCO and the stereo VCF. Fixed that with the Minsk, which lets the user adjust a mono signal into stereo...and natch, it's post-VCA and pre-VCF. Also, I went with the Veils due to the convenient "breakable" mixbus, as I wasn't sure that the Erica had that. But now, this lets the user use one of the Veils VCAs for signal-to-Minsk levels and then there's plenty left for the stereo output and that STILL leaves a VCA free for modulation level control. So here it is...

Surprises me not! Ever since Schlappi put their first offerings out, they've excelled in putting out modules that sound like they're going to explode or jump out of the cab and kill you! I'd have to say that their modules are a MUST for industrial, hard techno, harsh noise, and the like.

me too!

I think the customers will do the right thing, but Uli's got to do something else extremely stupid to get that to happen. When the Board of the Music Tribe picks up on the notion that their founder's mouth is losing them money, that'll kick something loose.

And yeah, the synths are the items that'll change this. Beforehand, B.'s gear was mainly used by studios...and not too many, as a lot of their early stuff WAS nicked from other firms, most notably Mackie and dbx. But yr.avg musician doesn't know what those firms are or what they make. Thankfully, it doesn't take much of a scratch on Tribe's surface to find the "ick factor" lurking just under it, and if Uli does another "Kirn", THIS time it'll likely backfire on an epic scale.

And when that happens, to quote Ren Hoek: "I'm gonna stand there...and I'm gonna LAUGH!"

Yeah, I agree with Garfield, a lovely relaxed piece :)

Hi

Hehe i have my cables military dicipline with color setup and have done my own cable hanger. But om going to do new cable hangers that so all lengths have their own hanger with 12 rows where 6 of the rows are braided and the other 6 are regular. and 12 cables in each row. It should be 30 cm wide. so I can hang the cables i use infront of me:) thought to make 10 of them so for other cables such as splitters ect that may have their own hangers :) and all my cables from keystep pro im going to buy cable stripes so every chanel going to be like one, and i will buy cable orginicer like this and have it infront of my eurorack ready to patch :)
https://www.amazon.se/kabelhållare-kabelhanteringssladd-organiseringsklämmor-självhäftande-USB-laddningskabel/dp/B07T72KRVX/ref=asc_df_B07T72KRVX/?tag=shpngadsglede-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=476539110227&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15570446477426598186&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9062357&hvtargid=pla-779698939660&psc=1
And from controller to eurorack i Will gather with Self-closing cable sock.

I talk to Graham alot last was yesterday. I will do my cable hangers first then im going to start to build my case. Will se how it ends hehe.

If you have hinton busbars already sorted out I'd send them an email to ask! they'll almost definitely be able to point you in the right direction - good luck!!!

I've got 300+ patch cables myself - an assortment of all sorts including mutable, polar noise (braided - for very long ones), a few doepfer etc and 80 or so stackcables! they are currently living in a pile on the floor