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Address is broken, btw...close up that space before "view" so it'll show the build.
-- Lugia

It seems like a modulargrid issue and unfortunate time to post then :/

EDITED Jan 17th 2021, 21:52

The NTO, VCFS, and VCFQ are fantastic, I'd recommend all of them. Cold Mac is also pretty sweet, opens up lots of interesting interactions.

Address is broken, btw...close up that space before "view" so it'll show the build.

Hi there,

I’ve been making some good progress on my rack and was hoping I could get some feedback.

Would be nice to hear if anything you think is entirely missing. Also what else to fill in the rest. Seriously considering finishing the top row up with a second Mangrove - but on second thought the Cs-l sound amazing, and it fits perfectly, but definitely gets tight on mixers/vcas... Other things I’m considering:

• I’m looking for another sound source, but not exactly. 2 voices could be totally fine, but I think I’m considering adding something like an Arbhar to like spice things up a bit, not entirely sure. More effects sounds like the way to spread out my 2 sound sources to become many more things.
• another filter (more on the fun/sound design side, not too interested in like QPAS but could be wrong)
• a cold mac
• a waveshaper or a phaser or Feedback Juno 106 chorus
• another oscillator: either to a) modulate/carry and fm pair with mangrove, HO as well (could be ts-l, or anti-osc, or generate 3), or b) as another sound source, was thinking something like a basimilus would be fun but it’s a little too much. I’m trying to get closer to lead sounds because I just gravitate to bass stuff, so really open to suggestions here. The sample player is there for things like chords mostly (maybe vocals) so some kind of harmonic content in a way like that could be nice (thinking telharmonic/saich but they seem to have too much of a sound and can’t vary far from it) otherwise was also thinking of some Random Source stuff like the NTO and the VCFQ/VCFS. Also, have not been thrilled by the sounds of fm/complex synthesis just yet. Getting there with modulating the mangrove, though. So have given serious thought to a second mangrove.

Not sold on anything in the current rack except for the Verbos Harmonic Oscillator, Mannequins Mangrove and the Three Sisters. I am mainly thinking about how to best expand/complement these 3. Organic, warm. Thanks.

Edit: switched to a mantis to give it some more room..

EDITED Jan 19th 2021, 02:16

@Lugia,

Right? It is an occam's razor situation. I don't want to really buy much more for a while until I master the basics for my current setup. I am digging into the Euclidian Circles v2, Eloquencer and Mimetic Digitalis sequencers which are tons of fun and working on learning to create beats and melodies with the Hertz Donut, Trident, and Angle Grinder as well as Loquelic Iteritas Percido which is a complete synth voice. It is simple to make crude buzzing noise but melodies are far trickier as these can get unruly quickly. Especially the Hertz Donut and Angle Grinder! Those are beasts and feed 100 Grit distortion can get wild fast.

Hopefully if I can move into larger studio space this year...
-- sacguy71

Of course you realize that "larger studio space" just means you've got an excuse to cram even MORE gear into the studio!

I've got a rather different take on this. You're really lacking on ways to manipulate CV/mod signals here, so for 10 hp, I'd suggest a Tiptop MISO. Then, remove the 2 hp Mult to snag their spaces (build's too small for it anyway...use inline mults instead), and drop in a Noise Reap uLoaf, which is a dual LFO with some interesting interaction potentials between them. This leaves 1 hp, then...and I'd drop a 1 hp blank in between the Shuttle Control and the P/S module to get a little more space between the power and that other module...trying to avoid a little noise and crud getting into the audio path, basically.

Well, whoever the cab builder was, they did you a bit of disservice by not color-coding the +12V and -12V rail feeders. Hopefully there's indications marked on the backside of those distros (which, I should note, aren't too shabby...they've got filtering, for one thing), otherwise you'll have to figure out their manufacturer and then chase down the board info.

Once you figure out the two 12V rail polarities, I'd strongly recommend yanking the RED wiring for one of those rails and changing it out for some other color to avoid this issue in the future. But as for P/Ss that'll work here, I'd suggest going with this: https://www.newark.com/solahd/sld-12-3434-12t/power-supply-linear-12v-40-8w/dp/93K6589 Yes, it's expensive when compared to switching P/S units, but with a LINEAR supply like this, issues with the P/S leaking crud onto your DC rails become a non-issue. It's worth noting that Synthesizers.com's in-case supplies are also linear, as well as some other makers; even my Kevin Lightner-built Digisound has a honkin' big linear supply in it...and if Kevin Lightner signed off on it, it MUST be the right thing to use!

Oh...and you get 3.4A per 12V rail. Now THAT'S a beefy supply!

EDITED Jan 17th 2021, 19:36

very much appreciated for your advice. thanks to both of you.

Hey everyone!

This is the Eurorack travel case I used when I performed for Lostsonar Collective.

The filming took place in an abandoned factory close to the Polish border in Eastern Germany. Visuals made by Chun Li with Touch Designer.

Happy to have performed in this shitty period with a great professional team. It was freezing cold but it was worth it.

Cheers!

Superb information about both the Morphagene and the Nebulae, thanks for sharing!
I am chasing and uO_C so if you like to share some experience about it too, it would be great!

p.s. really love your music! The Leisure System set was f&%n awesome! I keep watching it again and again or have it palying in the background even when I work!

EDITED Jan 17th 2021, 12:56

Thank you for sharing, very interesting 🙂

I'm on the fence about getting a Maths, but have seen some interesting sequencing and harmonic destructuring processes ...

Yes, Disting is one of the best bang-for-the-buck utilities in the modular world. It can do everything, though only one function at a time, to help you decide when you it's time to invest in a dedicated module to perform a specific function. I bought one early on as I was building my rack, and it helped me fill in what I was missing. Now I mainly use it as a tuner, but every now and then I will dial in one of the other algorithms.
Have fun and good luck.

Patch info in the video descirption.

Hi there,

I bought this used case and I know what I think I see and what I need, but it'd be nice to have some experienced input.

Here are some images (the last one is probably the best):

https://imgur.com/a/1mL8PGt

So what I think I see is a bunch of distribution boards and no power supply. I think I see holes in the bottom area where one big PS was attached and removed. If that's correct, can someone link me to some PS's that would be suitable? Or some keywords I need for the type of PS?

It's unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be any manufacturer info on the front of the distributions boards so I can go lookup a manual--perhaps there is on the back, so I plan on removing one tomorrow to see.

Hints on wiring would also be greatly appreciated!

Best,
lee

Sounds like a plan, a Disting would be a good and easy step.

wow.. I definitely need to explore about modulation.
Forgot to mention that I also use Digitone + Shuttle Control to sequence my rack as well.

After browsed through your combinations, I think I will get Disting mk4 just for now as it has loads of tools in small hp and price.
So, I can use it with my current modules to learn more about modulation before expand my set up further.
What do you think ?

Cheers.

Thanks Garfield,

Hopefully if I can move into larger studio space this year then I can have more room to get a monster case for my base case and then will have lot more room. I'd love a Cwejman VCO and filter module along with Brenso, Sapel and Falistri, more percussion modules and of course another matrix mixer and support utilities.

Hi Mowse,

Another nice jam from you. I love those... how you call it, kind of knocking sounds, percussion kind of sounds just before 03:00, lovely done, fits very well in your jam!

My healing therapy goes very well doctor ;-) Thank you very much and kind regards, Garfield.

Just another relaxing, live jam on the Moog stack and modular. This weekend is going pretty well. My build is really feeling like an instrument rather than a collection of things.

This is mostly M32's, DFAM, Plaits, Telharmonic and live playing of filters (something I really enjoy doing).

Hope you dig it.

Hi Brunomolteni,

You got yourself there a nice rhythm with an interesting sounding pluck instrument, sounds good! In combination with the sunset a beautiful video as well :-)

Nice to watch it and thank you very much for sharing this. Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Mog00,

He, he, nice one! Something different and yet beautiful.

Thanks a lot for sharing this, I need to listen at it at least one more time to let it sink in :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Yeah, nice showcase of your modular setup! Ha, ha, you got the same problem as I have, not enough space for the racks. Like you I plan to get a new studio setup as well but I need a lot of time and work to put in there to be able to do so, so I am kind of dragging it...

Anyway, nice setup and thank you very much for sharing this, kind regards, Garfield.

This just arrived from Reverb after a long period of no scopes available anywhere in the US. This thing is super easy to use without looking at any manual so far. And it's going to be a massive value for understanding what is happening in my rack. It could do some things better, but it's affordable, and uses limited HP. I have no complaints, and have barely started using the features.

Hello Doctor Mowse,

I used your recently new developed "modular therapy" (see here above track), and wow, I felt myself almost directly much better after done that therapy!

Could you please subscribe me to some more modular therapy, especially your Moog ingredient in this therapy is helping me a lot!

Thank you very much, your much addictive patient, Garfield.

Thanks again for all of your useful contribution to the thread.

Well...it's your money and your gear. Have fun with that.

Managed to record this one with a sunset in the background, hope you guys enjoy!

Patch notes:
Instruo Ts-l as kickdrum
Calsynth Rangoon as main melody
Erica Pico Drums as high hats
Mutable Instruments Stages as envelope generator, LFO and step sequencer
Doboz XIIO as arpeggiator
Robaux LL8 as gate sequencer
Super Vcas as vca and mixer
ST Rocinante's Gate as LFO and Env. for sidechain.
Music Thing Startup as mixer, clock generator and clock divider.

Thanks for that completely useless response. They are designed to come out of the box as well. They just don’t explicitly advise on signal flow when doing so. Figuring out that signal flow is the point of this thread.

Beautiful!
Well done @mog00.

Yeah, the Paradox is a good bit more twisted than just being a dual VCO. For one thing, it's a Noise Reap module, which means that it comes with all sorts of interesting "defects" in operation that make it crazier than that. Also, the VCOs are set up to cross-modulate, so it also has weird aspirations to be the oscillator core from a Buchla 258.

And yet again, here's reasons why you DON'T take a synth that's already in a powered cab and...move it to yet another powered cab. Not only does it make the synth in question cost a lot more (because you have to take the Eurorack space costs into account), there's always a significant chance that you can fubar it while doing this.

Put 'em back where they belong.

Thanks it was fun experimenting with my new Euclidian Circles v2 sequencer for WMD drum modules and getting some patterns with my other modules. Eventually I plan to get a Doepfer monster case to put on the base case and add some Frap Tools and Instruo modules and more drums of course to the mix. I am good on sequencers and will see what reviews show up when and if Endorphin.es releases their Ground Control sequencer and see if future firmware updates resolve the issues with Erica Synths Black Sequencer. I'd love to add some more Erica Synths modules as well.

Nice one @sacguy71

Thanks yeah the WMD percussion modules are super wicked fun! I love modular drums :-)
I need some snare, cowbell and taiko drum modules now.

If you do want to minimize menu diving but you're looking for melody I think a nice small step sequencer and a quantizer would go a long way here. You can already use the Pam's for random I think, and you could mix the sequencer, that random from Pam's, and let's say a long running modulated LFO, and then out that into your quantizer. If you got a dual quantizer it'd be even better.

So proposed additions:
Tirana MK2 + Tubbutec uTune
or
Tirana MK2 + Ladik Easy Quantizer + 2HP Tune + Joranalogue Add 2, lots of combination possibilities here.
or
Tirana MK2 + Disting mk4 + Ladik Easy Quantizer, in this configuration you could always use the Disting for other purposes if you don't need 2 distinct melodic lines.

If you got rid of the 2HP Mult that could also add a little more flexibility, and I also think it could be worth swapping out one of Morphogene, Clouds, and Magneto (maybe put one of em in a 4MS pod) which would open up a ton of room for more experimentation in your rack.

Yea so prior to mounting in my eurorack it worked fine on it’s own. The dipswitch is hard wired to the board in the K-2 original case along with power, midi thru port and line output. So no chance i can put that in my rack. I always used it standalone with some simple patching with the model D and vice versa. I never attempted to use either as a midi thru device until I rack mounted them both and now that is the only way i’m going to be able to get my D to feed midi to the K-2. I only have a Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol keyboard which unfortunately only has midi out over usb with no cv ports. Trying to avoid un-mounting the K-2 and i’ve seen very little out there in the way of people using it mounted. Scoured youtube for what seems like an eternity trying to figure this out too lol

Thank you so much.

Well, the uO_C has analog shift register, chord sequencing, quantizing, envelopes, and more in a very small package so you would need to substitute a large range of modules to do what it does. The only problem is that it requires patience and is not so quick and easy to use. You really need to spend time getting to know it. For something more immediate, Marbles may be fun but much more limited.

many thanks,
I use Digitakt + Shuttle Control for modulation sources; envelope, lfo, s&h and random etc.
uO_C is what I have recently been looking for cv quantized to create ambient melody but I am not quite sure about menu-driving. Is there any alternative module for this purpose ?

But it did work before you put it in the rack? I don't have the K-2, but for the Neutron there were small dip-switches in the back, I think, to set the MIDI channel. Does the k-2 have those as well? If so, maybe you need to also remove that little board from the k-2's case and connect it to the k-2 in your Eurorack case. Just make sure it's affixed to the case in such a way that it doesn't short anything.

I would definitely look into more modulation sources and utilities. How about something like Ochd, Mixwitch, and Pico RND? Or maybe a uO_C and Disting MkIV if you don't mind menu-diving?

Funny you should say that, I let this play for a few hours while I was soldering the other day, the aim was to make something relaxing or meditative.

Cheers

All the toys come out to play nice.

Nice, so smooth a great track.

Lots of players
Dreadbox Typhon (Brass Patches)
Modular (Arp and Lead) (Ataraxic Iteritas, Dixie 2, Xaoc Belgrad, Bat Verb, FX Aid)
Pyramid Main Sequencer
Blackbox Main Sampler
U-he Zebra Chords
Mixed and Arranged in Studio One.
Added my 5 String custom bass to this one as well.

I tend to program base sequences and samples using the pyramid. I then track these into the DAW using my Tascam Model 24 and do arranging in the DAW. I like to sequence in hardware so I don't lose the ability to just jam live. Lots of sound design practice in this track using all my synths, hardware, software, and modular.

EDITED Jan 16th 2021, 07:02

Hi

What would you guys suggest to fill 15hp space left ?
I play this rack with Digitakt, Digitone and a reverb pedal ( Mercury 7 ). and mainly for making ambient music.

Cheers,

Had a very long week.
Wind storm. Power outage. Septic drain field problems. Job interviews and questionnaires.
Took some time this evening to chill with the modular synthesizer.
No agenda.
Just plugged holes and played.
Modular therapy.

Some fun after work today

Yeah for a pure quad LFO, Batumi is hard to beat. I am a modulation and sequencer junkie you could say and Batumi has most LFO beat. I mean there are others like Clep Diaz and Acid Rain Labs Maestro and Kermit super modulators that do way more than just LFO and are tons of fun and have their uses but if I just want a basic modulator, Batumi is hard to beat.