is it this rack??

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I'd replace the vca with a quadcascading one such as veils, if you can and the filter with something smaller - doepfer perhaps - and add a kinks - and possibly a disting if it will fit

utilities more important you already have 2 modulation sources - tides and maths

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


just checking, but you are triggering the 2hp module from pam's aren't you?
and you are sure you plugged it in correctly?

the 2hp euclid module outputs +5v for 6ms - check the mom manual for how long it needs too be triggered?
pams outputs also +5v, but buffered

do you have a buffered mult? - you could try that - I have a few modules that Maths doesn't trigger for until it goes through a buffer

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


@timmy373, I can't tell how this 2nd rack is different than your first rack. I pulled up your prior post (1st rack) and the rack there and here look the same.

A few comments on what's above presently:

-- I've heard good things about Erica Black Sequencer BUT it is not quite for me. I find sequencers very deep and personal in fit (e.g. down to personal workflow and control preferences) SO I would urge anyone looking for a sequencer to shop carefully, watch some videos, browse manuals, and really consider workflow preferences. Personally I'm a huge fan of Five12 Vector sequencer.

-- I own QPAS and like it as a choice for filter to use, but I probably wouldn't go with it as my main or only filter. If I had only one "power-filter" I would choose from Morgasmatron, Rossum Linneaus, or SSF Stereo Dipole. Again, a matter of personal preference. Just wanted to highlight that there may be better "workhorse" filter choices if you're only having one in your rig.

-- Scanning the rest of the rack, I think you have a lot of good picks there. PNW, Maths, Links, Kinks, Triplatt, Battumi -- hard to go wrong with those! The 3HP expander for Batumi is nice, if you have the 3HP to spare. Bifold is great.

-- I'm not sold on MiniMod and ADDAC703 for you in this setup, though I'm not super familiar with those modules. Instead of those what about: i) something like 4ms SISM or Tiptop MISO for attenuating / offsetting CV ii) a stereo mixer like one from Doepfer (A-138s) iii) more VCAs? I see your comment above you end up using triplatt / tangle quartet more as mixers -- just adding more VCAs could give you some of what you want plus flexibility plus CV control. Intellijel Quad VCA remains a fav of mine on that front. Food for thought.

-- my biggest response / question re: above is "where's the room for future growth?" Have you considered a bigger case? If you had the exact same modules above, but in a bigger case with say 30-50% room left open (but IRL covered with blank panels to avoid accidents), then I would think "that's a pretty reasonable set of modules, he can add a few more in a couple weeks / months after he has a better idea what's underrepresented in his rig." BUT if you're committed to this size case above, then IMO it warrants a bit more scrutiny (on module selection) to get the most fun and function out of that much HP.

-- A couple last comments: as a rack, it still seems relatively heavy on sound sources, and light on utilities. Again, if you had HP left over to add modules over time, no big deal. Layout is rather scattered, but you can update that any time; I would tend to group together voicing (OSC, filters, waveshapers), CV, utilities, fx, then last line out.

So those are a few of my personal reactions to the build above. Hope to see some other forum folks chime in here soon. Good luck!


First time posting.

Got into modular back in February. Next module purchase in July will be the Maths. So I'm currently really enjoying the Bloom, tides, and Dixie2 and making quite a few melodies and soundscapes. I would like to do more modulation and experimenting with automating sounds (especially the tides and filter). So here is my question: what do I fill the last 4 HP with? LFO or VCAs?

Currently looking at an OHCD. But not sure if that would be as useful as a dual VCA in that space.

Thoughts? And thanks.


@sacguy71, thanks for the tips and references above!!!


I can do that with pam's (which is what I'm going to try next). It's the 2hp euclid module, which is being clocked by pam and the steps are being modulated by a disting in random step quantize mode (like a turing machine). Pammy can even do the euclid+turing machine thing by herself I believe. Thanks for the tip about the "hotter" triggers.


I'd go as minimal as possible to start with - probably just some ways to sequence and combine triggers - unity mixers, switched multiples* and gate/trigger combiners etc - and a trig31

get that working how you want and then consider adding a sound source

how are you mixing/listening?

*this is contentious - you shouldn't use multiples as mixers - bad, bad practice - it will work until it fries your expensive module - but if you only ever use your switched multiple for this purpose then it works

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


can't you do that with Pam's anyway? definitely has euclidean

it's possible that mom needs hotter triggers - so you'd need an amplifier - do you have anything else that can do that - veils r intellijel quad vca perhaps?

which euclidean sequencer is it - does it need a clock? or do you need to switch on an internal clock?

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


New guy here. I've been trying to trigger my mother-32 from a euclidean sequencer all morning only to find that the mother will listen to pamelas workout, but not my euclidean module... Is this an issue of gates versus triggers? Honestly I'm getting pretty discouraged with the amount of time I spend just trying to connect stuff together.

(The idea with the euclid module is to get variable pattern lengths and steps on the fly)


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Yes, I recommend the YT videos by Steve Turner as he is a real Vector guru! The main thing is to understand how routing and parts work on the sequencer. I am getting the hang of it and by far my favorite sequencer now for Eurorack and easiest to understand. Here are some links:

Basic tutorial on Vector


vector blog and tips by Steve Turner
https://steveturner.com.au/blog/blog/five12-vector-sequencer-links-to-all-articles

Also be sure to join the large Vector 512 Facebook group and forum as well!

Both Steve and Jim are stand up gentlemen always willing to help out with questions.
After playing with the sequencer this weekend, it works better for melodic lead and pad sequences and not as good for drums as my other sequencers like Metron and Eloquencer but that's ok because what I was looking for at this point was a good complex melodic composition sequencer tool for modular and this ticks all the buttons. Plus it looks amazing and fun to use.


Thanks Jim! I'm trying to create a system which could act as a complex, evolving rhythm-generator/sequencer. I do have a few elektron boxes for which I would like to send triggers out from this system via midi. That's why I added 2 trig 31s. As for the mults I just added them in there as I thought it would be helpful to route copies of signals to different destinations but I guess I could also do that with the 32:1 which I added today?

As for the modules I would like to keep, they would be the IoLabs Flux, Stochastic Inspiration Generator, Chimera, Fracture, QD, QCD (I like the idea of the expander but not sure if its super necessary), RCD, SWN and maybe Pams new workout.

The main goal is to create a generative system which helps me program complex rhythmic sequences which would be difficult with a linear / step sequencer setup.


starting with which modules you want and the modules you need to support them and leaving some space for expansion would probably be a good idea - a couple of mantises will work perfectly in that regard - start with one and add a minimum viable system and get to know that first - then proceed with the rest of the modules one or 2 at a time

I would suggest you add some more information - what sort of music you want to make with the modular and which modules are 'keepers' in this rack

then one or more of us can rip it apart and you'll end up in a better place - there are some obvious questions too - why do you need 2 trig31s? and 3 passive mults?

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks for the responses everyone – learning a lot.
The point about utilities being the secret sauce of modular is interesting. I guess, like Nick said, its hard to grasp at first because unlike oscillators, samplers, filters, envelopes, LFOs etc, 'utilities' don't really exist in the conventional world of music and are unique to modular (to my limited knowledge).

They are mostly hidden

I'm pretty committed to 2 x 84 HP, just because I don't have a lot of space, and want to keep the arrangement of gear on the desk relatively flexible. Also I don't plan on building a massive collection of modules, I'll probably buy/sell stuff until I have a setup I'm happy with, but who knows... If I do eventually want to go bigger I'll probably just get another 2 x 84. Also I think I want to stick with eurorack because I'm not too interested in building a conventional synth – I like the range of unique stuff in eurorack.

104hp is 10cm wider - depending on the case a mantis may only be 8cm or s wider as it has very thin sides

I live in Australia which has unbalanced mains power. How much of a factor is noise? I've read that modules tend to put out a pretty hot signal, but yeah I might just follow Jim's advice and try without, then attenuate, then balance. I'm only running it into either an octatrack or external soundcard.

good luck!!! - are the inputs balanced or unbalanced on the octatrack and sound card????? if so then you may want a balanced output!

hot doesn't have anything to to with balanced - it just means the peak to peak of the voltage is higher than line level


Re VCAs: what's the difference between a VCA and an envelope/LFO module? also VCA vs attenuator?

a VCA is a voltage controlled amplifier, although most only have unity gain, so are technically attenuators and not amplifiers

you send a signal (audio or cv) through the VCA and control the amount of the signal let through with an envelope or lfo

attenuator is manually controlled - vcas may also be able to be manually controlled

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Definitely not something I would want to play with!

TOP ROW
Plaits, nRings, Monsoon - personally I would go all original and I would hold out for a beads - better ergonomics and Emilie gets paid!!!

I'd dump the doepfer mixer and get a second quad vca (veils is really good!)

The filter is fucking huge!!!! way too big in a case this size find something smaller

Unity Mixer I would replace with Links - depending on how you use it there are up to 2 buffered mults, a precision adder, and 2 mixers - in 4hp!

TM - if you are going to use this you need to get a quantizer too (I suspect you want to use this to transpose the minibrute sequencer) no quantizer means no need for precision adders...

BOTTOM ROW
attenuator - Hasn't the Dreadbox WL series been discontinued? you could swap for a 2hp trim (or get a bigger module that is easier to use - shades perhaps (will also double as a precision adder)

Slew Limiter - find the space for Maths or Rampage or a DUSG - you will get a thousand times more mileage out of one of these (especially Maths with it's brilliant illustrated manual - 32 self patching examples)

Precision Adder - you probably won't use bus access and precision adding can be done elsewhere

VCADSR - again huge - find something that does the same job but smaller - 8hp or so - or go for stages which can do more interesting envelopes and much more - make sure it will work with triggers as well as gates - you don't have a lot of gate sources and some ADSR type modules only work when they are held open - triggers only last a few ms

DADSR - ok - again make sure it will work with triggers as well as gates

Disting EX - ok

seq switch - ok

passive mult - get stackcables or headphone splitters

is that the wk1 or the wk1 aroom mod? aroom mod and you need no other precision adders - as you can transpose 3 voct signals at at a time

clock divider - ok

batumi - ok but seriously consider the expander (or diying one) so you can switch the assignable waveform easily

scale - see above, the attenuator - shades will also cover this

logic - I would replace this with kinks - logic, noise, sample and hold and rectification in 4hp

midi interface - won't the minibrute do this?????

vca - I wouldn't bother unless you need another one after replacing the mixer with a quad cascading vca

GENERAL
your idea of stereo audio path is not quite true plaits is not stereo it is dual mono (as is the filter - a couple of doepfer SEM filters could replace this in less space) - 2 different signals - rings is stereo ish - depending on the setting! and both have vcas built in - so you really need the vcas for modulation and not audio!

also no way of moving audio in the stereo field - where is the panning???

I'd add an fx aid xl aswell!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I'm building my first rack and welcome feedback, suggestions and modifications. I haven't decided a case and power supply too. I would appreciate some suggestions for the same.

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Hi ModLifeCrisis,

Wow, that's amazing, you have a waterproof Eurorack ;-)

Drone or not, nice ambient track it is! :-) It's lovely relaxing to listen at, watching the video, feeling so relaxed. Yes nice, I want more of this :-)

I miss a bit your commentary at the beginning of each track, any chance of that happen again? :-)

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

Thanks Garfield. Just for you, I have uploaded a video which is virtually all talk - about the ALM S.B.G. Hope you enjoy it.
Regards, MLC.


I was recently asked in a forum (not this one) why I had the ALM S.B.G. or Stompbox Gateway in my rack when I could just put an FX module in instead. This got me thinking about the S.B.G., which I often use to plumb in external guitar pedals I have, such as the MXR Carbon Copy analog delay.

But with so few modules in my rack, I have also found myself using the S.B.G. for other things, besides routing audio to stomp boxes. In this video I go through some of the bonus uses I've discovered for the S.B.G., which make it, for me, a surprisingly useful little box to have in my Nifty Case.


Oh my goodness! Lugia, thank you SO MUCH! This is BRILLIANT! It's exactly what I needed! I can't wait to put this into action! Feels like it will be a steep learning curve but that doesn't put me off! :)
Thanks again!


Hi everyone,

I've been working on a little project to scratch a personal itch called the kxmx_bluemchen. It is an open source, 4HP, Eurorack module powered by the Electrosmith Daisy Seed, and I've decided to make a handful of them.

The Daisy Seed is an embedded DSP development platform with an ARM Cortex-M7 MCU, High fidelity AKM stereo audio codec with up to 24-bit 192kHz, 64MB of SDRAM, and 8MB of flash memory. The Daisy Seed is a formidable platform which already powers a number of reputable Eurorack modules such as the Electrosmith Daisy Patch, the Qubit Surface, and the entire Noise Engineering Versio series.

kxmx_bluemchen detail

The kxmx_bluemchen is a fully open source hardware design that attempts to expose as many capabilities of the Electrosmith Daisy Seed as possible, while remaining a compact 4HP wide. It features:

  • 1 rotary encoder with push-button function
  • 1 64x32 pixel OLED display
  • 2 potentiometers
  • 1 MicroSD card socket
  • 1 MIDI TRS input
  • 2 CV input
  • 2 Audio input
  • 2 Audio output

These hardware features can be used, in combination with the open source software libraries, to create the module that's in your head.

Being built on the Electrosmith Daisy Seed, this module leverages the open source libDaisy library for simple, intuitive access to the hardware features.

The DaisySP library provides you with a rich selection of curated DSP building blocks such as:

  • Synthesis Methods: Subtractive, Physical Modeling, FM
  • Filters: Biquad, State-Variable, Modal, Comb
  • Dynamics: Compressor, Limiter, Crossfade
  • Effects Processors: Reverb, Delay, Decimate
  • Utilities: Math Functions, Signal Conditioning, Aleatoric Generators

If C++ is not your thing, I'm working to make kxmx_bluemchen available as a target for oopsy - Which will allow you to export Max Gen~ patcher to the kxmx_bluemchen hardware.

The kxmx_bluemchen is available as a built module or a DIY kit

kxmx_bluemchen detail

So now that I have all the orders for parts out and I’m waiting for them to arrive, I'm going to start taking requests. I’ve put up a website and a registration form for those of you genuinely interested in buying a DIY kit or a module. I’m selling 10 DIY kits and 10 modules and will be handling requests first-come-first-serve. There’s a very good chance I won’t be making any more after this, so grab one now if you want one.


Some words on the module arrangements.

  • Upper part is mainly audio path, lower part mainly modulation and gate processing
  • Attention has gone into getting the best reach to all buttons and switches, by doing the following:
  1. Observe the upper part modules have been selected as much as possible to have the buttons above (jacks below), so no wires get in front of them
  2. Small modules have small knobs, which make them difficult to handle. So those small modules are positioned at the full left or full right side
  3. Jacks are as much as possible concentrated together, to provide more space around knobs.
  4. At three places additional 2hp plates are installed, each with 6 additional switches or jacks to expand the possibilities of their adjacent modules. They were originally blind plates or passive multiples, and now enable the following
    • Gemini 2412: filters can go into resonance or not
    • A-135-2 : additional normalling paths added
    • A-141-2 and Ladik C-211 : additional options added
    • Disting EX: additional Midi In/Out via 2 mini-jacks
    • Clock Divider and Batumi: additional options added


I started off making a traditional subtractive modular synth, only to realize I was remaining on known territory.

So I changed the challenge, and this is what I went for:
- no standard analog (emulation) oscillators! Therefor the choice for the Mutable Instruments based Plaits, nRings and Monsoon
- the minibrute has standard analog oscillators and a Steiner-Paker filter so these are already covered
- make us of the Minibrute 2S sequencer outputs and its noise generator in combination with the rack to create percussion
- have a stereo audio path from start to finish (stereo oscillators, mixer, filter, VCA)
- at least one advanced envelope (Doepfer A141-2)
- at least one delayable signal (found in the Ladik C-211 envelope generator)
- SEM-filter (Gemini 2412) (ladder filters are abundant)
- have the Wasp as additional filter, a sound different from all others (Doepfer A-124)
- lots of LFO's (Xaoc Batumi)
- at least two V/Oct precision adders (Doepfer and LPZW) for duophonic use
- midi interface (2HP)
- gate processing (Seq. Switch, Clock Divider, Logic module)
- CV processors (VCA's, attenuators, scaler, TM, slew limiters)
- top it off with a double 'Swiss Knife' as the Disting EX.

This rack does stuff I can't do with any of my other 20 synths, so it has its place!


That's actually a good question, i did not thought about. Luckily the 2 LPG are passiv. I could exchange the utility mixer and mult for an other links. I could leave out the Midi and Line-out tiles. Thats down to 30 still in need for changes.

Maybe it's an option to use 2 or 3 Make Noise Chain Cables. I'm not sure if they have impact on the signal quality but i can imagen its not a problem sinds flying busboard is a thing as well. The power consumption is well within the spec.


That should work again, thanks for the report.

-- solitud

Fantastic, thank you!


I notice that there seems to be no way (anymore) to go from a users list of marketplace entries directly to a specific offer.

That should work again, thanks for the report.


I notice that there seems to be no way (anymore) to go from a users list of marketplace entries directly to a specific offer. You can click on the module name and end on the module page and can then open the offer (if you remember the users name) from there, but that seems complicated. Would be nice if there was an additional link to the offer directly, which existed before.


Nice case! i love the variations. One Question. How do you fit so many modules in the Intellijel case with just 28 slots without to much Noise?


Currently I'm working out my first generative eurorack. For the case I have settled on Intellijel Designs 7U Stealth Case 104 HP and has already arrived. In its first incarnation all the 1U tiles together with the Dixie, 1 filter (not yet decided which one),Triplatt, Quad VCA, Quardrax, Dual FX, Pamelas new workout, Bloom, Seppy, Kinks, Maths, Links and Sample drum will go in my case

The other modules will come later.

Still i have the feeling that i'm missing something that is able to "Switch" signals to different places over time. It can be done with a mult and some VCA's but i feel the demand for VCA's is high already.

Any other tips or suggestions are welcome to.


So I guess that I'll go with 416 HP. What I did right now with my Rackbrute doesn't make any sense, does it?
Well, the things is that it's what I have now, so I really wanted to fill it up and then upgrade.

Considering that I have Rings, Ears (not really useful but..), Plaits and 4ms Listen I/O with Doepfer 1-190-3, and I want
to order Veils and Maths.. What should I put next to get that modulated, long ambiances. Or ambient noises, foggy chords in the atmosphere of Silent Hill, Twin Peaks etc. ?

I know I'm probably asking too much already, so you can just shut me up and I'll move on ;)


@sacguy71, any key recent learnings or techniques you're running with Vector?

I got mine (plus expander) a few weeks ago and am still learning it (for a while still). But overall very impressed, and happy with the purchase. It is my favorite sequencer of any kind on any unit, hardware or VST.

BTW I have found the Loopop and Ferry Collider videos on Vector to be well done and helpful.


Cheers guys :)

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Thanks for the responses everyone – learning a lot.
The point about utilities being the secret sauce of modular is interesting. I guess, like Nick said, its hard to grasp at first because unlike oscillators, samplers, filters, envelopes, LFOs etc, 'utilities' don't really exist in the conventional world of music and are unique to modular (to my limited knowledge).

I'm pretty committed to 2 x 84 HP, just because I don't have a lot of space, and want to keep the arrangement of gear on the desk relatively flexible. Also I don't plan on building a massive collection of modules, I'll probably buy/sell stuff until I have a setup I'm happy with, but who knows... If I do eventually want to go bigger I'll probably just get another 2 x 84. Also I think I want to stick with eurorack because I'm not too interested in building a conventional synth – I like the range of unique stuff in eurorack.

I live in Australia which has unbalanced mains power. How much of a factor is noise? I've read that modules tend to put out a pretty hot signal, but yeah I might just follow Jim's advice and try without, then attenuate, then balance. I'm only running it into either an octatrack or external soundcard.

Re VCAs: what's the difference between a VCA and an envelope/LFO module? also VCA vs attenuator?

Thanks again, this thread is super helpful. Looking forward to placing my first order in a few weeks.

Here's the updated sketch. Trying to create a bit more space, now I can put one piece of cardboard neatly over the whole right side :) I might swap the listen four for PGH outs (handy for octatrack – and I think I'll only be working on one sound at a time with the modular, to begin with anyway). Also added midi in so I can use the octratrack as master clock. ModularGrid Rack


Hi, folks...since I'm about to bang into the rack limits on MG, I'm going to need to delete a BUNCH of the various builds on my account to get some rack slots back for use. So, if I've done a build for you and you've NOT copied any of the builds, your build is at risk of deletion in the next couple of weeks. If you don't know how to copy a build...

1) Click on the rack itself in the Forum. This will bring up a dialog that allows you to "copy" the build to your account.
2) Copy that build! Then after that, use the "Duplicate Rack" function in the "Edit Rack" pulldown to make a copy that you can mess with.

Please note: for those without Unicorn accounts, you CAN copy the build even if it exceeds your free account's limits on hp and rows, but you won't be able to tinker with it further unless you get a Unicorn account...which, frankly, I endorse the HELL out of! $20-ish for a resource as expansive and useful as Modulargrid is kind of a no-brainer, really. And while these were done for different individual users, they're still super-useful as studies on how successful basic builds are put together, so if you see something among these that you like feature-wise, copy away!


OK...well, for starters, take the DFAM out. It's already got power and a housing, so it really doesn't belong in there unless there's some massive, glaring reason for having it there. The other problem is that this layout is pretty chaotic -- it doesn't have any clear signal paths, so what I did with what was there (after chucking the DFAM) was to try and illustrate what that would be like with what's there now:
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Now, this makes more sense. The general "flow" now runs left to right, audio on the top row, modulation middle, sequencing and mixing on the bottom. However, there's still problems here, as reordering the rows now reveals some potential issues. For starters, there's no way to do any major manipulation of modulation signals. The audio row could be expanded and made easier with some additional modules. I also got the power supply modules away from the audio modules, as this can sometimes lead to noise problems.

I don't have a list of what you've got but which isn't in the build, but I went ahead and did an example based on how I would approach the build with the aim being to complete the build. This is what I got:
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Top row: added a dual slew limiter for different portamento responses, then a buffered mult as there's several possible CV destinations. After that, a Doepfer module provides noise and basic sample-and-hold activity. The oscillators were doubled, plus the STO pair also has one of Happy Nerding's FM Aids for complex and/or thru-zero FM between these. The mini stereo mixer isn't for "stereo", but to give two different audio routings which can also be tandemmed. After it, I put in a wavefolder for more timbral complexity. Then, Rings, Morgasmatron and the Quad VCA.

Middle row: The clocking and randomness takes up the left end of this, with one of the uZeuses, then an Evaton CLX, which provides two clocks with some integrated logic for manipulating the output. Marbles is next for more complex random behavior, then a Noise Engineering Fractio Solum gives you CVable clock division or multiplication. The COUNT then ticks off each clock pulse from 1-8 to split out various points in time from the overall clock. The Tool Box offers a load of utilities related to timing, logic, as well as a comparator for picking gates off from modulation sources. Last in the series there is a set of Boolean logic gates, which can take several different gates and output new/different ones based on the logic operation as well as what incoming gates are present. The other end of the row is modulation: Batumi (added the Poti expander), Maths, the triple linear VCA, then a Frap 321 for combining, inverting, altering modulation signals. Then for envelopes, you've got a Quadrax with the Qx expander, and this lets it also be used as a very complex cascading modulation source.

Bottom row: I set this up primarily as "control". The MIDI interface is there, then the Turing Machine to which I added its CV and gate expanders. Along with that, there's a 2hp TUNE for quantizing the CV expander. After this, the Metropolis, then the Magneto, and finally the 4ms mixer.

This should give you some ideas as to what additional modules will really open this build up, as well as how a cohesive layout that takes signal flow into account. Notice that the middle row's implementation is easily directed up toward the audio row or down to the control row, depending on what's needed at the time. This is how you keep the patching under control, as it helps avoid the "patchcord snarl" that you tend to get when the various modules are scattered all over the rack. It's not a "final result", though...there's still quite a bit that could be done. For example, my instinct would be to go with a much smaller delay line module so that a proper performance mixer could be implemented here, with this then offering CV over levels, panning, and AUX sends depending on which mixer seems right and which fits. However, I stuck with the existing modules with the exception of the Contour, which became superfluous after I put the Quadrax/Qx in.


I think it'd make more sense to go for the extra hp with the Mantises. For one thing, like you noted, you DO get more panel space with those. It would also let you avoid the compromises that happened to the 4-row build; whenever you condense a build, it's a good idea to try and shrink it down while still maintaining the same general functionalities, plus you can't simply put things back based on size alone; the Rene might fit, sure, but it's not intended to take up the same percentage of space if the build gets cut in half.

This is why the miniskiff issues crop up all the time. Synthesizers need FOUR specific elements: generators, modifiers, modulators, and controllers. When there's ample space, you can go with bigger modules. But if you shrink that available space down (especially this much!), you still need the same four elements AND the same proportion of those...and there IS a limit to how small this can go before you either fall into having insufficient panel space or have to make compromises that cripple a build.


Hi Wishbonebrewery,

That's a lovely old Japanese book cover then! :-)

Kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Well played,

nice ambient track, spacetime :)

Best,
jingo


I'm pretty new to modular. Could anyway give me any good tips on how to lay this rack out? I've put the modules in that I own but I've just bought a load and I'm now feeling a bit unsure of the best way to lay them out. Also any tips on other modules worth getting to get the most out of what I have here would be gratefully received! Thank you!


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I had submitted this module before: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-neutral-labs-nermal

I had to associate it with Other/Unknown, as a manufacturer must have 3 modules minimum in order to be listed. More Neutral Labs modules will be released this year and I hope the association can then be changed.

But I suggest to remove the duplicate for now.


Hello!

Once again, that is a big help. Thank you guys.

So, before buying all the stuff (and gathering money) for what Lugia composed for me, I need to fill my little Arturia Rackbrute 6U.
I have modules from Lugia in my mind, so I was trying to squeeze some of those to my current build, just to have them in the future, upgraded and bigger rack. Could you tell me how does it look?

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I'm also considering upgrading Rackbrute to two more rows, but that would give me less HP than Tiptop Audio dual Mantis racks.
What do you think Lugia?


Right up my alley, thanks for sharing mate :-)

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Thanks Garfield.

The Image is a scan of an old Japanese book cover I bought, I collect things with nice textures that I can use in Photoshop as parts of designs.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


hi garfield modular. thank you very much. it's a customized midi file played by yarns (MI), hermod (squarp instruments) and moog mother, so i get 13 voices. the only sample is the timpani, which is played by the erica synths sample drum. the sequencer in the top left is the DIY red light district sequencer, but i use it very rarely. but building it was fun :) cheers


Hello Anubiz,

Wow, this is amazing! :-) How did you do this? Did you used samples for the sounds? Supported by a large sequencer I guess? The large top left module, is that your main sequencer? What is it exactly (I mean brand & model)?

Are you (Anubiz) and Attack Regularity Release Chaos (on YouTube) the same performer? I am now listening to the Tubular Bells, nice one too!

Must have been a lot of configuration work ;-) It's amazing and enjoyable at the same time. Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Oh yes, that's nice! :-) Super nice and it's relaxing too, this is how my weekend should be :-)

Nice long, kind of ambient and relaxing, the ideal track for me! Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

P.S.: That picture is that of a piece of textile? It's quite nice!

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


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The module isnt associated with thonk as far as im concerned. What about Neutral Labs?


Nice work :)

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


I keep starting out to make a Drone based patch then it kind of changes.

Hope you enjoy.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


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I use Ableton and Cubase. Will stick with Ableton even though I have a love/hate relationship with it.
It works with my Push 2 controller and laptop and modular.


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So this is the second iteration of my starter rack that I have poster before. Apart from what I ideally want above I already have a mother 32 and a dfam. I produce more ambient/leftfield leaning music. I have focused on utilities ( some of them I already own and absolutely love). I have realised that I need more mixers since i end up using triplatt and tangle quartet as a mixer more than a vca. I am not firmly set on an STO as a second osc (since I like domino by eowave too even though its a little too acidy) so would love to know if there are other options that allow more modulations.