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That's where the NCOM comes in @JimHowell1970 😆

I was reflecting on my NCOM answer and was thinking that this is where we're missing @Lugia nowadays. If he were here he'd be advising you to build your own low bass by mixing in multiple oscillators that are slighly detuned to get that super fat sound. He's got a post somewhere about this (or maybe a few) that I'll go try and dig up.
-- troux

yes that's how to get a 'phat' bass - mix slightly detuned oscillators together before filtering them... but it won't give you a sub bass - the easy way to that is a clock divider...

How about a repository for user manuals?

For those of us who rely on Modular Grid for module research, it would be extremely helpful, especially for those cases where the manufacturer no longer exists, or documentation was spotty.

Maybe even allow for the more industrious technical writers among us to create new user manuals where none previously existed?

Location could be within each module's page, or a forum heading, or a separate area of the site by manufacturer, or some combination thereof.

Speaking for myself, I have a lot of modules, but not a lot of modular experience (the robustness of my rack is purely owing to an opportunistic purchase at an estate sale), so I get a lot of benefit from manuals. Tracking them down (for example, to ensure they're actually plugged in correctly), though, is very time consuming and often frustrating.

But when I find them, they are eminently more useful than scrolling forever through YouTube videos hoping to find a loopop or Robin Vincent or Chris Meyer or Tim Shoebridge deep dive with section headings so I can find the thing I'm trying to do without watching all 20-60 minutes of the video.

I think a manual repository would be really helpful to many people, with my own preference bing one in a separate area of the site, organized by manufacturer, with links to individual manuals within module pages.

One man's 2 cents.

EDITED Aug 21st 2023, 18:09

I was reflecting on my NCOM answer and was thinking that this is where we're missing @Lugia nowadays. If he were here he'd be advising you to build your own low bass by mixing in multiple oscillators that are slighly detuned to get that super fat sound. He's got a post somewhere about this (or maybe a few) that I'll go try and dig up.

I took the "El Cheapo" plunge a few days ago and bought me a Nifty Case and 2 very small modules. I think it'll last me quite a while though. Because nowadays thare are a mother-load of modules to choose from that are only 4 to 8 HP wide.

-- MeneerJansen

What 2 modules did you buy? (Ah I have justed seen your 2 modules on your eurorack)

My set up began with a Plaits clone (Behringer Brains- but at 16HP its bigger than the original) as it was cheaper but meant I had a module that was my voice. I could play around with it and start my eurorack journey. I also bought a Ladik composser N (as my random turing machine) which is great and I think 4HP but as it was explained to me I did not have a "clock" to trigger the Ladik. So I went on the hunt for a second hand Pamelas new workout - which is amazing and have started to make more interesting sounds. The menu is very simple to pick up but I am now wondering what to get next?

My set up will become a semi/generative ambient unit in time but am in no rush to fill a case...just looking at modules wondering what will go well with what I have so far? Maybe I can buy another module before the end of the year.

EDITED Aug 21st 2023, 17:48

I really like Electus Versio as well. It can go really long and you have a useful knob to go between clean delay and reverb.

Next on my list are Mimeophon and Frequency Central Stasis Leak.

Hello,

I'd recommend looking at Yester Versio from Noise Engineering. It feels like a good, "basic" starting point from their delay options. And if you want to try something a bit more experimental, you can easily switch the firmware to a different Versio, like Electus that was mentioned above, or Imitor or Melotus.

Intellijel also just announced Sealegs recently. The demos sound great, and I'm thinking I might give up my Magneto for one as Sealegs has a digital tape delay mode, and I've never really gotten along with the Magneto all that well (probably my issues, not the Magneto's).

I would recommend against a Beads for your first delay. I haven't had the time to get super familar with mine, but it's definitely not what I think to go to for most delay-type sounds.

I hope some of that is useful to someone!
Chace

i got a analoglabswiss sub 101A
but havent really tried it out yet

I don't have one .... yet. But I like the thinking behind Joran's Delay1. Pricing is up around the 4MS DLD but not stratospheric like Magneto. Though, in a highly competative market, you usually you get what you pay for.

EDITED Aug 20th 2023, 16:52

I currently have the Magneto and Z5000 and really like them both. I also have the Doepfer A-188-2 BBD which is a nice multi-tap delay but doesn't have in internal LPF to attenuate clock noise (it's also uses quite a bit of real estate). I'm planning on getting a Noise Engineering Electus Versio (for delay and reverb). NE has several firmwares that do delays for the Versio hardware. I figure if I don't like Electus, NE lets you reprogram it with one of the others.

Cheers :)

If the TipTop ECHOZ & Z5000 are anything as good as the ZVERB I just got I'd check those out too.
+1 on the Mimeophon though, clocked or unclocked, frozen or Flipped it can get quite creative. My only critism of the Mimeophon is that the Reverb 'Halo' can get a bit Phaser/Flanger-like so best only used subtly.
-- wishbonebrewery

I like your "I rather like this patch" patch :)

I have to agree that the Nifty Case is very, very tempting. Maybe a nice "extra" portable mini-modular setup (for later on after buying your first serious case) if you don't mind the 200 bucks...
-- MeneerJansen

The Niftycase will last me a while but there may be a time when I will have to move on.
I think I have found what will be my serious case - Rackbrute 6U ( but then i'll have to buy an output module...oh the financial pain!)

-- EuroBadger

I took the "El Cheapo" plunge a few days ago and bought me a Nifty Case and 2 very small modules. I think it'll last me quite a while though. Because nowadays thare are a mother-load of modules to choose from that are only 4 to 8 HP wide. For instance good ol' Doepfer (which, if I'm not mistaken, is a very well respected brand in the community), Rides In The Storm and Erica Synths with their "Pico" range. It forces you to keep your setup small and "workable".

Another pro of a small rack it that it's so easy to fit into your setup/work space or even to take with you to a friends' house to jam. In another topic there's a discussion on what people rather have: a few smaller racks or a big one againts the wall in a fixed place in the house. Some like a collection of 104 cases better...

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/takaab-vlh-vco-s-little-helper
...Wishbonebrewwery -- Takaab could work but I REALLY dont like 2hp modules. fingers are just too fat...
-- Scarfmeister

as a workaround i have most of my 2hp modules combined with small blank panels on at least one side.
this particular module does not have any potentiometers so probably there is no need for additional space.

i never have heard of this module but reading the description made my curious - i am going to search for some sound examples...
-- modular01

That's exactly what I do, or leave a 1hp air-gap between 2hp modules. Though the Takaab module is just something you can hide away and leave patched as chances are everything that comes out of it will be sub-mixed back into the original or another signal before hitting a VCA or Filter.

If the TipTop ECHOZ & Z5000 are anything as good as the ZVERB I just got I'd check those out too.
+1 on the Mimeophon though, clocked or unclocked, frozen or Flipped it can get quite creative. My only critism of the Mimeophon is that the Reverb 'Halo' can get a bit Phaser/Flanger-like so best only used subtly.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/takaab-vlh-vco-s-little-helper
...Wishbonebrewwery -- Takaab could work but I REALLY dont like 2hp modules. fingers are just too fat...
-- Scarfmeister

as a workaround i have most of my 2hp modules combined with small blank panels on at least one side.
this particular module does not have any potentiometers so probably there is no need for additional space.

i never have heard of this module but reading the description made my curious - i am going to search for some sound examples...

This Black Hole case 60HP 6U is perfect for storing these discontinued modules. :)

EDITED Aug 20th 2023, 03:59

@Scarfmeister it's definitely pricy, but it works like so: route your VCO's square wave out to a mixer and to the NCOM, then the NCOM into the mixer too and adjust relative volumes for taste. It creates fat subharmonics that can be either octaves or sort of like intervals in which case you get interesting chord like effects. Maths and in general function generators can do this too, but IMHO NCOM just does a pretty spectacular job of it.

Beads has never clicked with me for one reason or another, I'll put +1s behind Magneto, Mimeophon, and throw FX Aid out there as a dark horse contender, tons of options and range even if the others have more depth.

I have to agree that the Nifty Case is very, very tempting. Maybe a nice "extra" portable mini-modular setup (for later on after buying your first serious case) if you don't mind the 200 bucks...
-- MeneerJansen

The Niftycase will last me a while but there may be a time when I will have to move on.
I think I have found what will be my serious case - Rackbrute 6U ( but then i'll have to buy an output module...oh the financial pain!)

Just released a split with my long-time friend Versioning from Ohio, check it out here.

https://temporarymountain.bandcamp.com/album/split

Versioning has a multi-"desktop synth" setup, including a Neutron and the Teenage Engineering modular.

Both my tracks were made with the following rack, track 1 leaning on Squid Salmple for live looping goodness, track 2 using Rings for feedback. Hope you all enjoy!

Nice work as always @farkas, I could have listened to 30 minutes of this unfolding easily (nudge nudge)

Wow.
A lot of very interesting suggestions. Sorry for the delayed acknowledgements.

Lucas303 -- The right idea. Perhaps a bit expensive for what it does.
PragmaticusMax -- 4ms then mixer could be more trouble than its worth. I do have a decent divider I will try.
Wishbonebrewwery -- Takaab could work but I REALLY dont like 2hp modules. fingers are just too fat.
scuto -- Bubblesound little helper relies as I understand it on ring mod. I have a simple ring mod but I guess I am looking for a
"cleaner" signal.
troux -- Serge NCOM must be spectacular for what they are asking. To be honest, I am not sure I really understand what its doing.
Aerocatone -- You and Pragmaticus both mentioned Erica's Black Double Bass. I had not heard of it but it sounds right. I have a couple of their modules. They seem well made and a good price for what you get.
Thanks to all.

EDITED Aug 19th 2023, 19:28

Some of my favorites are Rainmaker and Magneto

I like the Mimeophon, its straight forward.

I didnt get along with Nautilus, I experienced it to be hard to tame and a bit mysterious to handle.
But if you dig deep I guess it can be nice.

Might be worth looking at the 4ms Dual Looping Delay. It's a classic for a reason.
Have fun and good luck.

Hi

I'm looking for a new delay. I alreay own a Microcosm. Very nice delay but not that suited for Eurorack integration.
So I have my eyes on a Qu Bit Nautilus or Beads from Mutable Instruments.
I am looking for rather long delays that can get complex but are able to be simple as well.
Or is there a delay I haven't looked at?
Thanks for you input :)

A dream toolbox. I remain speechless, and yet I regularly follow your adventures on Instagram... Respect.
-- Sweelinck Thanks again for your nice compliments my friend! :-)

Thanks very much, Sweelinck, I'm glad you liked it! :-)

Nothing wrong with DSP, but any module that uses DSP should be tagged as digital.

A dream toolbox. I remain speechless, and yet I regularly follow your adventures on Instagram... Respect.

An amazing video, very educational and seductive (humour is also on the program ;)
What a case! The sound examples are superb, you did a fantastic job!

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Serge NCOM is a sneaky contender here, can add some super fat subharmonics.

Adding an Erica Synths Black Double Bass to any of your current oscillators is an inexpensive and effective way of getting pretty low...

I would like to see the ability to have multiple racks on the same page. For example, have number of racks and then it splits and has rack one, rack two, etc. It would be nice to be able to layout a large multi-rack system on a single page.

Would also like to see an Excel-compatible spreadsheet of the modules generated from the program.

I would definitely pay for these features.

Thank you!

-- IvanC

I had this request as well, so I could emulate my real-life multirack system. The workaround is to create one big rack and divide it into smaller racks with blank panels. It worked out really well.

@Moogul

In this case, the Piazza San Marco would be located in Berkeley and the Buchla 100 would be the name of a violin :)

Yet there is an undeniable link: the Berkeley’s Sather Tower was inspired by the Campanile of San Marco in Venice!
-- Sweelinck

And both Don and Antonio liked the number four (quattro stagioni, quadrophonic, quad function generator, etc). The plot thickens!

-- Moogul

You’re right, and I even fear that Suzanne Ciani was involved somewhere.
Believe me or not, this case is beyond us...

you have to have stock built on the shelf ready to ship to be added to the company list. i just want to be found when someone types in my company name and not be referred to as other/unknown

EDITED Aug 18th 2023, 16:10

Ahh OK.
Do you have to get autherised or something from Admin? Or is it a pay money type deal?

so you cant go to the module finder and search for my company name.

Hello,

When using the Builder's note to record ideas for a rack configuration, sometimes I lose text that is written after a URL or other ertain characters (I'm sorry I cannot recall the ones this happened with). After adding the URL or character, once I've saved the note, clicked back to the module browsing view, then went back to the note, all text after the URL or character is gone.

My workaround so far is to just put URLs at the end of the note when needed, and to try not to use any characters. Do you have any other suggestions on how to manage this?

Thank you!

For vintage sounding analog goodness I recommend the bubblesound VCOb and/or the uLFO. Really love the bass from those.

Edit: That VCO's little helper module posted above would be cool and reminded me that AM and ring mod-type modulation can create bass-heavy side-bands well. For more grit go with a classic diode/transformer ring mod, for cleaner go with IC/discreet circuits (which are more accurately termed balanced modulators but sound very similar to the classic ring mod).

EDITED Aug 18th 2023, 15:07

how about a link to all other modules bythe same xompany or submitted by the same user
-- pointandclicksystems

I think they are already there, if i click on your profile I see all the modules you've submitted.
Plus each manufacturer is searchable.

how about a link to all other modules bythe same xompany or submitted by the same user