I bought a 2 hp version of the Poti expander from @jmason, he had to order parts to build it but maintained communication, keeping me updated on the status and then shipping the assembled product ASAP along with a cheat sheet in pdf format. It works great and I would definitely do business with him again.

Hmm, the ones with the letters are tricky ones.

Thought so :)
I think it's weird to start with Z so I see it that way:
-> it's ASCENDING from A to Z, so the arrow up makes sense.

The other thing is the Number of functions. That is clear from the meaning.
But I don't want to reward the modules with the most tags to appear first on first click. Because that would lead to tag spam.
Maybe this can be renamed to Speciality or something ...
For now I have changed PRICE, HP and DEPTH.

Hmm, the ones with the letters are tricky ones. I'd go with the reverse but others might disagree:

Arrow up > Alphabetic : modules with letter Z first
Arrow up > Manufacturer: manufacturers with letter Z first

Seems that depth works the wrong way? [...]
-- ParanormalPatroler

Good point. The other sort options are discussable, too.
I would like to define all orders at once so what would you and everybody else say is this correct/expected:

Arrow up:
Newest: newest module first
Popular: most popular first
Alphabetic: modules first with letter 012..ABC
Price: most expensive first
Manufacturer: Manufacturers first with letter 012..ABC
HP: widest first
Depth: deepest first
Number of function: modules with MOST assigned functions first

Oh, I definitely have plenty of self soldered contact mics at home. The Ears is more of a nice option to have another input. and i really like the surfacing of it.
And regarding the qu-bit... well... it's definitely out of price range right now...
The OR was acutally the only 2hp-wide logic module that i was able to find. would have been nice to find a 2hp-wide comparator. maybe solder one on my own... can't be so complicated, right? :D

Refactored the keyboard shortcuts in the planner

Just small improvements and fixes.

• using cursor keys and Z to zoom through the modules worked only with your own racks. Cursor navigation works now on every rack
• when Rack Lock is activated you could still add modules clicking + in the finder. This is fixed.
• you could not reload the browser via ⌘R when the cursor was hovering over the rack. This is fixed.

Seems that depth works the wrong way? I'm trying to sort MyModules by depth and even though the arrow points upwards I get the modules with no depth on top. Is that normal? It doesn't make sense. I also get the shallowest modules on top and that is wrong.

By comparison arrow in Popular points to the most popular, in Newest points to the newest. I'd expect it to act the same way for Depth, it should point to the most deep.

Hmmm...keep in mind that that contact mic is going to pick up every little bonk and scrape in the cab. You'd probably be better off using an actual one such as this: https://www.perfectcircuit.com/crank-sturgeon-classic-contact-mic.html and inputting it thru the A-119. The Ears is a great module...but it needs to be in a separate enclosure along with similar things, such as a small 4ms Pod or such, not where it'll pick up a lot of jostling around.

As for logic: look into adding a comparator or two. These can be a lot of fun, as they output a gate when a given voltage threshold is crossed. That way, you can use an AND gate to let an LFO switch a sequencer clock on and off by outputting the AND to a linear VCA that's passing the clock, and by inputting the AND with the comparator output and another gate signal, such as from a clock divider/counter. That's just one example.

Stereo mixer? Check Qu-bit's Mixology...gives you CV over level (VCA), pan, AUX send, plus you get a proper parallel FX send/return, and manual solo/mute switching. As of late, I think that might be the best bang-for-the-buck stereo performance mixer.

And they look awesome. The problem is that his sole point of online reference is that one website for the Cluster system, and it's literally not changed in years...which is why I dismissed it offhand. And I'm sure I'm not the only person who's thought that the project was dead for the same reasons, because when a project goes dark, pretty much what you're left with is a dead website, and the website does look pretty dead. Next time you're in touch w/ Geeklapeeno, you might want to let him know that zero progress reports and info updates on the site over about three years time is really not a good look, and if he's still working on making the Cluster system fly, it would probably inspire a lot more confidence in the product to maintain a lot of interaction there...otherwise, people will view this (as I did) pretty much like KAHNCO.

The Geeklapeeno Cluster is real. I have chatted today with Mr Geeklapeeno and he even showed me new build, non-render models with curved design.
I don't know when they come but there is so much work inside the project that I think they will materialise eventually :)

Image shows my own Cluster

I bought a Cwejman module from @marcelpagnol3 and it was a great experience all around.
-- dforman98

Hello :)
I sold couple of modules lately including you...I thought you bought an Orthogonal Devices ER-102?
Or Did I send you my Cwejman module by mystake? ;)

Great experience here as well! Enjoy your ER-102! :)

-- marcelpagnol3

Ha, you're right, it was the ER-102, I got the Cwejman elsewhere. I think maybe it's a sign my GAS is out of control. But thank you, the ER-102 is in perfect condition and is a joy already.

Good deal with @slocap for Mutables Links

Didn't noticed the Intellijel Quad with the cascading structure looks really handy, thanks for that. And by dropping the mixer there is now space for a contact mic and another logic module.
I'm not so sure about the Lifeforms mixer though, but it' seems to be the only stereo mixer I'm really able to get my hands on... Do you know an alternative?

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_865772.jpg

I bought a Cwejman module from @marcelpagnol3 and it was a great experience all around.
-- dforman98

Hello :)
I sold couple of modules lately including you...I thought you bought an Orthogonal Devices ER-102?
Or Did I send you my Cwejman module by mystake? ;)

Great experience here as well! Enjoy your ER-102! :)

I bought a Cwejman module from @marcelpagnol3 and it was a great experience all around.

Yeah, that's a lot more on-point. I'd even go one further step and delete the VC Mixer altogether, and swap in something with better functionality and space use with an Intellijel Quad VCA. Plus, the VCAs in that module can be swept from linear to exponential responses, making them useful for a wider set of possible signals. With that, you'd then have the space for a stereo output module of some type. Also, shift your A-119 to a side (left makes more sense) so you can avoid having an input cable running across your patchpoint field. But yeah, this is pretty close to where it ought to go.

I had high hopes for Geeklapeeno's case idea, really, as did (apparently) MG's powers-that-be. But it's been years since that initial site with zero functional info went up, so my assumption is that it never got beyond the conceptual phase. Quite a shame, really, because that setup fixed a lot of the inherent problems in Eurorack case design, IMHO. And yet...

Got it. Thanks Lugia

Are you sure that my starting set doesn’t work???
If yes, I think you need more experiments to do...
Fortunately music is an area where creativity always has the upper hand on the cold technique.
-- wmw2019

Let's see... MIDI to CV converter... a VCA... a mixer, and a noise generator. Wow... what an awesome set-up. Tell me more about what inspiring and creative patches you've come up with. I can't wait to hear. What other advice do you have for me? So knowledgeable... you should create your own tutorials. If you get a filter, you might be able to create your own hi-hat. That's awesome.

I'm done with you, troll.

-- Ronin1973

Bye!!!
Ahahah

Are you sure that my starting set doesn’t work???
If yes, I think you need more experiments to do...
Fortunately music is an area where creativity always has the upper hand on the cold technique.
-- wmw2019

Let's see... MIDI to CV converter... a VCA... a mixer, and a noise generator. Wow... what an awesome set-up. Tell me more about what inspiring and creative patches you've come up with. I can't wait to hear. What other advice do you have for me? So knowledgeable... you should create your own tutorials. If you get a filter, you might be able to create your own hi-hat. That's awesome.

I'm done with you, troll.

Thanks for reporting, that should now be fixed.

Geeklapeeno, which is similar, was also much talk, no walk.
-- Lugia

I have a Geeklapeeno late prototype. It's a beautiful, well thought out enclosure.
I don't know why he did not manage to release it yet ...

thanks, great links!
Still hope Frap Tools will make some Plus modules like 10hp and 20hp,
would be rad

Thanks for the feedback already.
I really liked the sound of 'Shelves' as well as its flexibility, but maybe i found another option with the Polaris. I didn't realized that the wavefolder has two inputs, i was more amazed by the sound of it.
I actually chose the Quad VCO because of its LFO features, but it's really taking a lot of space, so I switched it for a simple VCO and a proper double env-generator.
originally I thought of the VC.mixer as my output mixer ,but probably it's better to have a proper one instead.
so here comes the update:

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_864987.jpg

Are you sure that my starting set doesn’t work???
If yes, I think you need more experiments to do...
Fortunately music is an area where creativity always has the upper hand on the cold technique.

Lugia is probably/definitely the most knowledgeable person in these forums. Don't characterize what he said as "aggressive." It wasn't.

You have a collection of modules that makes absolutely no sense on their own. You haven't put the time in studying how analog synths work. You don't just buy a bunch of cool looking stuff and expect to get anywhere. But hey, it's your money and you can waste it however you see fit. You came here looking for answers. He gave them to you for free. Don't squeal because he was curt and to the point.

Now here's my advice. Buy something like a Behringer Neutron. It's $300US. It will teach you everything you need to know about BASIC modular architecture as well as a dedicated line-level out (plus synth level). It has MIDI DIN in as well as USB MIDI. You'll also be able to make use of most of the modules you've already obtained (assuming you have them in a case).

You need a LOT more knowledge before putting together a modular synth that will work for you. Dig in Youtube for tutorials and you may want to download VCV Rack. It's a simulated modular synth environment that is great to learn in.

Respect the knowledge people take the time to share with you. I'm sure you'll have more questions later on and Lugia hitting the reply button rather than skipping it because you got all whiny the last time isn't where you want to be.
-- Ronin1973

I’ve gotten nice package deals from Detroit Modular. Granted, if you buy a 7U Intellijel and fill it up, there’s some margin to give on.
Regarding Perfect Circuit being slow to ship... my stuff from EricaSynths was here more quickly. That’s from Latvia as opposed from California.

KAHNCO: dead. As far as I know, it was vaporware. Geeklapeeno, which is similar, was also much talk, no walk.

As for the SP-1, it's conceptually interesting. I do have some concerns about a portable case made up of plastic segments being durable in the long-term, though. It would probably be fine as a studio enclosure, though.

Another idea might be Elby Designs' Construct-a-rack Series cases: http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/d39.html These come in 42 hp and 20 hp segments, with various options for depth, side panels, mountings, and covers. With these, you do have the ability to build cases with strap-on covers for portability, and the metal construction should prove quite durable over time/use.

The other issue with Sweetwater is that there's really no price breaks on buying modular gear from them. Since the Eurorack market relies on pretty fixed "street" pricing, what you see there is almost always going to be the same as from Perfect Circuit, Detroit, VK, etc. Sweetwater is good about having gear they carry in stock, though; having a warehouse complex the size of some small towns lets you do that!

Nah. I washed my hands of this several days ago. This one's on his own.

A couple of things...first off, if you have a Maths in a simple build like this, you probably won't need that Quad VCO/LFO (which is more of an LFO than a VCO due to the "locking" tendency the oscillator cores have at audio rates). You'd be better off adding a second VCO (like something basic to detune against the Wavetable VCO, thickening up the sound) and some proper envelope generators for use with the VC Mixer, the VCAs, and your filter. Also, lose the uMixer here; you'll find that having a mixer with variable input levels is more helpful in a general-purpose instrument. Note, also, that your wavefolder can function as a mixer (with potentially interesting results!) for the two VCOs.

Also, perhaps drop the Shelves for a more conventional state-variable filter, which should open up space for an output module to bring your levels down to line-level. You might also take out the multiple; in a smaller build, it's generally better to use inline mults or stackcables, leaving panel space for active functionality. Otherwise, this is pretty close to spot-on.

It's in the module types pulldown. Just select "Power" as your module type to view.

Detroit Modular is my go-to place. I've never had issues ordering from them. I've had a couple of self-created issues, but they sorted me out and I was shipped the right gear. They ship same-day or next day, generally.

Perfect Circuit is very active on Youtube. However they are super-slow to ship. But sometimes they have fantastic sales for holidays.

Sweetwater is fine. But they don't stock a lot of modules.

SynthroTek makes "Cheeks Of Steel" It's really inexpensive. The downside is it only comes as a kit. If you're not handy with an iron and test meters then you'll probably want to pass. But it's around $60US.

Lugia is probably/definitely the most knowledgeable person in these forums. Don't characterize what he said as "aggressive." It wasn't.

You have a collection of modules that makes absolutely no sense on their own. You haven't put the time in studying how analog synths work. You don't just buy a bunch of cool looking stuff and expect to get anywhere. But hey, it's your money and you can waste it however you see fit. You came here looking for answers. He gave them to you for free. Don't squeal because he was curt and to the point.

Now here's my advice. Buy something like a Behringer Neutron. It's $300US. It will teach you everything you need to know about BASIC modular architecture as well as a dedicated line-level out (plus synth level). It has MIDI DIN in as well as USB MIDI. You'll also be able to make use of most of the modules you've already obtained (assuming you have them in a case).

You need a LOT more knowledge before putting together a modular synth that will work for you. Dig in Youtube for tutorials and you may want to download VCV Rack. It's a simulated modular synth environment that is great to learn in.

Respect the knowledge people take the time to share with you. I'm sure you'll have more questions later on and Lugia hitting the reply button rather than skipping it because you got all whiny the last time isn't where you want to be.

ah cheers ill have a look, many thanks.

Hey there,
as many others here, I'm new to the topic but interested in adding a modular synth to my workflow at home, as well as a live instrument (with the possibility to work with live-input from other instruments).
I'm quite unsure yet, if I got the concepts of dealing with a modular synth right and I'm not sure, if I missed vital parts, so I'd be really glad about some feedback.
Cheers
Seb

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_864646.jpg

Maybe the design has changed. But I see 7U worth of rack. Are you placing this in an Intellijel case? If so, go for the 104HP. It has main outs and MIDI built in... but you won't be needing an Intellijel MIDI 1U module with the Expert Sleepers FH2.

You can ditch the 1U pedal send/return as it needs another module to function. I don't see it in your rack.

You can replace the Intellijel MIDI module with an Intellijel headphone jack.

Ditch the Mutable Instruments stuff and replace them with micro versions of each. You'll appreciate the savings in rack space more than you realize.

Actually I only know those ones

Fraptools Plug: not really "modular"

KAHNCO Modular: the best one I've found, but the guys don't respond to emails
and there's no place to purchase it...probably never launched
http://www.kahncomod.com

SP-1: the only real modular-modular case
https://www.matrixsynth.com/2019/01/the-sp1-eurorack-case-modular-3d.html

do you know other similar projects?

Thanks Lugia, I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Where is the "power" section? At first glance can't locate it...

EDITED Mar 5th 2019, 09:20

Cases aren't so much of a product that you see hundreds of case manufacturers like you do with module manufacturers. Off the top of my head, only about two dozen firms specifically making cases come to mind, making it simpler to shop for cases via the various online shops. If you tool around 5-6 of those, you'll wind up being able to comparison shop the majority of Eurorack cases and power solutions available.

Also, having a look in the Eurorack section under "power" can often provide useful clues as to who's also making other power products and, by extension, cases. Not every power supply manufacturer does, but a large percentage do have cases as part of their product lineup.

EDITED Mar 4th 2019, 20:41

Many quantizers let you define your own scales by choosing a selection of tones from the standard 12 semitones. Some quantizers also work with microtonal tones. The ADDAC207 Intuitive Quantizer is an example of a full-featured quantizer with microtonal options.

Thanks @Chris_Da_Break for the BD909 the module is in perfect condition! Reliable seller

EDITED Sep 6th 2019, 03:51

purely an abstract question, but.. any modules out there that deal with different scales, tuning scales, as in Egyptian and Indian scales. micro tunings.

I can only find modules in the marketplace section - I'm wondering if there's somewhere that folks are selling cases? I'm about to dive in, and I need power and a case, but can't find any for sale on here.....Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers!

FYI I own this pedal, the correct height is 250mm. I measured it with a ruler. Thanks!

Just an FYI, I own this pedal and re-measured it today, the height is 250mm exactly.

Yes, the Morphagene has a mixer on the top center called SOS, Sound on Sound, Fully left is the incoming sound, fully right is the recorded sound, middle is 50% of both.

Modular Addict has great prices on patch cables.

I have some black market cables and like them a lot. Matttech also sells eowave cables which are similar and also really nice.
And of course stackcables are absolutely great.

Thanks! When I check Muffwiggler I see the brand "BlackMarket" passing by a lot.
They are easy to get here in Belgium. Do you have an opinion on them?