Hi CBD1000,

Well my name is Garfield Modular, so I prefer a modular solution if it's somehow possible within acceptable reasoning ;-) That's the reason why I not really looked outside of the Eurorack for sequencers... having that said... I actually did a bit. I have an Elektron - Analogue Four Mk II and though it has a great sequencer, the issue with that one is that it has only one direction type and that's forwards... now I also like to have a sequencer that can go backwards or can do random, the Five12 can do that not the Metron from WMD ;-) Just teasing you Sacguy71 ;-)

I also had a look at the Arturia - Keystep Pro but I preferred an "in the rack" solution hence my choice for the Five12 - Vector sequencer. If you use the Jack Expander extension module from Five12 then you can have MIDI in and out as well. Without that extension module you have two MIDI out (3.5 mm mini-jacks). The Vector has USB MIDI as well, so that's yet another MIDI connectivity you have with the Five12 - Vector sequencer (also without the extension module). I am not using it yet, but it's all possible, just download the manual from the Five12 website and check it out.

Good luck with the search for the "perfect" sequencer, once you have decided please let us know and kind regards, Garfield.

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Here is what has really worked well for my workflow on modular and sequencers of which I have quite a few now:

drums/percussion
- trigger sequencers are great with pattern save and recall: WMD Metron, Winter Modular Eloquencer

melody, pads, ambient:
- having ability to quantize to scales is super important! I love my IME/Harvestman Stillson Hammer because it has this feature plus internal clock option and 4 channels of CV control. I also use my Winter Modular Eloquencer as that has 1v/oct CV capable features like quantizer and scale modes

  • ratcheting feature is super nice because you can get that Tangerine Dream sound going with duplets and triplets in sequences for melody.

A good central clock to tie them together and keep in sync is very important. I use either Pamela's New Workout or Mordax Data for my master clock to ensure the sequencers keep in time and sync.


Sometimes, no matter how many things you try, how many different ways you change the patch around, how many different settings you use on the modules, hell, even how many VCAs you employ, it still sounds like garbage. Sometimes you just have to pull the cables and go do something else.

Share your frustrations in this thread.


Hi at all,
I completed my build.
Now I'm playing some fast melodic sequences with some patches with maths.
I have yet to understand Quadrax but it fascinates me a lot.
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/patches/modulargrid_73827.jpg
Thanks
FB

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Ohhh a S&H is a good idea. I haven't had the results I was expecting for the Pro3's S&H LFO, but that could be user error. I'm also interested in the Disting since it seems to pack a lot of punch into 4HP. And I can't argue with more mults and the Links looks like a good option.

For another sound source I've been thinking about Plaits given its huge variety of sound options, and adding the Polaris filter to go with it.

I'm also thinking that eventually the Mother 32 will exit this rack to make room for other stuff. :-)

Cheers


A good Sample and Hold (DivKid Rnd Step or an MI Kinks for example) and another voice (I'd pick a digital one) would let you add harmonies and layers, that's probably the direction I'd head in. In a rack this size I'd also be tempted by a Disting and by a Links to add some modulation mixing in a small packacge.


If you provide a link to the rack itself folks will be able to click through and get more details on the modules you've picked. One or two of them I'm not familiar with.


👋 Hey thank you. These are quite some very compelling lists not just for sequencing. Great work!

Can you let me know why you opt in for an ER sequencer instead external with MIDI > CV? I am thinking about using my Circuits which I find quite intuitive to use. They also allow MiDi parameter recording and I would free up some space on my rack. Same probably goes for sampling and mixing using external gear. ✌🏻


Hello all-I am building out my first rack, which I plan on using for live ambient improvisation. I have 6u x 84hp of space, powered by a uzues with 10 busses. I have a mother 32, rings/clouds duo, a dual 32 step sequencer, and a mixer so far. I plan on adding a 4ms dual stereo stereo sampler in the next week or two. What I need is modulation sources. I was thinking of either a turing machine or a mutable marbles clone, as well as a mutable stages clone. And for my remaining space a 2hp verb. Would this be a good setup? If anyone has advice or ideas for alternate modules that might be a better choice, I would love some feedback!

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There is a vocoder in Mutable Warps and Flame apparently have a vocoder module in the works for release in spring or so.
For a small external solution, there's also the Roland VT-4. It does have a few other nice features. But TBH I sold it quite quickly because the user interface makes the Disting feel intuitive. YMMV and such...


Hiya Marinche,

I have in my head the range of sounds that I am looking to achieve with it - a slightly driven mutating rhythmic synth line that sits between the bass guitar and lead guitar lines - where in my music I have previously always used a guitar for this part.

The minibrute 2s gets me pretty close but lacks the voweling effect I am looking for (hence Plaits) as well as lacking fuzz, reverb and delay too. I am also not in love with the sound of the Steiner filter.

I love the sequencer on the 2S as am really only looking to get a few more modules to add a bit more modulation, polish and complexity to the sound it can already produce. My original idea was to get a rackbrute 3u and just 8 modules.

This will be my first adventure into modular and I am not wanting to go down the rabbit hole but rather looking to put together a musical tool that will be fit for purpose and have the main functionality I will need.

Jim also said I needed gates but I am a little confused as to what gate modules to look at and how they will offer me more than what the sequencer already does in that regard as I will not be using this for drum synthesis. I am a total newb so please forgive my ignorance.


I like self-generating-ambient as well as fast complex arps and sequences. I will be feeding in some sequences from my DAW and using my Pro3 for keys/arp/sequences and for its Gate and CV outs. More VCAs? ;-) What else?
Any useful recommendations are appreciated.

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Hi Farkas,

Ah yes, I forgot the new functionality on the MicroFreak, indeed it has vocoder functionality now as well. Hmm, not sure about the MicroFreak itself. I will give it a few thoughts.

Thank you very much for reminding me about the MircoFreak and kind regards, Garfield.

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I thought the Arturia Microfreak vocoder examples I heard were really good. It also has the MI Plaits oscillator firmware and CV I/O if I’m not mistaken. I believe I also saw something about a Microfreak collaboration between Arturia and Noise Engineering. Might be worth a look.


Hi Farkas,

"Let your ears be your guide" is naturally a very good hint :-) So if I would follow up on that motto then it would be the VC340 from what I heard from examples on the Internet.

I was just wondering if I am not overlooking anything, if there is an interesting non-Behringer vocoder then I wouldn't mind to give such device a chance as well.

Kind regards, Garfield.

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I would love to have a VC340. It really has that classic sound found on so many great albums.
I have not had much experience with the Novation gear in many years, probably since 2005, but I remember thinking the sounds were fairly high quality in that era of virtual analog.
Let your ears be your guide. :)


i really don't understand how can you plan buying the whole rack in advance?
i changed my mind 1000 times and today's rack is not even close to planned one.
you need gates and triggers.start with simple, explore and observe.
once you know what you need then it's easier to find it .
all of that modules looks easy for beginners because they see few knobs, but truth is I mastered maths after 2 years of learning..Have morphagene 6 months, barely scratched the surface.


Hi Farkas,

Thanks a lot for sharing your opinion on this matter. Hmm... yes... I noticed the Behringer VC340 as well besides it size, isn't there anything else on the market that can be newly purchased? I noticed the Novation MiniNova as well but are that the only two currently? Which one would be the better one the MiniNova or the VC340?

Thank you very much and kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


@GarfieldModular I seriously considered picking up a used Roland VP03 because it sounds pretty good, and I don’t have space to add a Behringer VC340. The Disting MK4 algorithm worked fairly well with very few concerns. I don’t need a vocoder too often, so it does the trick for me.


Hi Stolis and Farkas,

Stolis: Interesting that you came with this post, I was thinking of starting with a post as well, however I am looking for an external (decent) vocoder, any ideas?

Farkas: Oh that's good to know about the Disting, though I had read once the entire manual, I can't remember I saw the vocoder functionality, I might use my Disting Mk4 for just that purpose :-)

Kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Hi CBD1000,

Sequencers is a large chapter on its own... that's never going to be easy and to be answered in just a few sentences or even in a few messages...

Having said that, let's give it a try :-)

I have intensively checked sequencers for Eurorack and I came to the conclusion that the ideal and perfect sequencer doesn't exist, same as the ideal and perfect synthesizer doesn't exist.

For details on my post regarding sequencers please check out this one:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/7899

For an interesting list of sequencers, check this link:
http://doudoroff.com/sequencers/

I ended up (after about one-and-a-half year of checking!) with the Five12 - Vector and the Five12 - Jack Expander module combination and so far I am extremely happy with it. It has a very direct control of it, almost no menu diving and still it's very clear what one is doing, changes have immediate (happy) effects, it's just a great thing to use. There is only one big con with this suggestion and that's the finance of it... other than that I can recommend it without any hesitation.

Good luck with it and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Hi Modulargrid and Farkas,

Modulargrid: Great, thank you very much! 12 cores and 32 GB of RAM? Wow, then we have to increase our number of posts otherwise you have done all the great work for nothing ;-)

Farkas: Ha, ha, pretty good point actually, this modulargrid.net website is so successful that it keeps us away from making music ;-)

Great website and thanks again, kind regards, Garfield.

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Disting has a vocoder algorithm. That’s how I have done it in the past.


Hey guys,

is it somehow possible to do a vocoder patch?

my idea is this:

mic audio out -> make noise ears in; gate out -> cv in of a VCA
cv keyboard pitch out -> v/oct in of a VCO -> filter in; filter out -> audio in VCA

i guess i need at least a 6 band filter in this case right?
or can i use any type of filter like a MMG from make noise, polaris etc.?

Hope someone can enlighten me


Hello,
I am struggling a bit with a good workflow to sequence modular.

What is your experience? What do you own? How is the setup / workflow. Why?
- How you use it
- Sequencing Melodies versus Drums
- Sequencing on rack versus MiDi / DAW
- Recording and recalling CV param.
- If you have any opinion about a specific device or Brand
- also what did not work for you and why?

🙏🏻 Thank You


Ok so I have thrown another version together in the order you suggest.

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Overall does this solve my plumbing issues and offer (with the brute) a pretty cool synth for doing some cool rhythmic melodies.

Have I gone overkill on the plumbing or is that not a thing?

Any other modules i should aspire to? there seem to be some really cool mutable modules like warp that I don’t quite get what they actually do - am I missing out or not really.


hahahahahahahaha be scared, be very scared!!!!

not really! to be honest apart from the core of the video modules - which I sold 3 guitars and a bass to cover (I have more, don't worry) - I've not spent much more than your £300/month budget

you're not really missing anything from the 'big stuff' - it's the support modules that help them play together nicely that are missing

utility modules are the (mostly) inexpensive dull polish that makes the shiny expansive modules actually shine and not tarnish quickly

in your situation I would buy (maybe over time) the 6u rackbrute, maths, a filter that you like, veils - which also has a nice gritty overdrive, btw - an fx aid xl - and a disting mk4* - and then stop and just play with those for a few months

  • disting is fantastically useful - it has a lot of uses and can be both a learning tool and a stand in for other modules as required - a lot of people take one look at it and go - "ah a menu, not for me" - a lot of others buy it to try and don't get on with it - mostly because they are constantly fiddling with it to try every algo there is rather than spending some time setting up favourites and have issues reading large manuals - everytime you swap the algo it's like a new module - but a lot of the i/o is similar etc etc - ie the positives far outweigh they negatives, especially in a smaller rack - I will always keep mine - despite to a large extent having physical modules for most of the functions that it provides - I use the tape delay a lot - and some of the functions are in the I just might need that some day category (also one of very few modules with a pitch follower - which is useful if you are using external instruments - as is an envelope follower)

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I am up for getting maths first.
I am slightly scared that I am opening this Pandora’s box that leads to your 100+ Modules!
I am cool with going to the 6u.
In this case you suggest I need more plumbing and should be getting another LFO module, VCA module and envelope/Adsr module as well as another multi or a mixer module but what am I missing here from the big stuff I would/should want to use?
I thought about an Erica graphic VCO for a more FM sound perhaps but it is not really the vibe I tend to go for but 80’s in quite in at the moment.
I am not in love with the Steiner filter in the brute to be honest. I would really like a more organic sounding filter. That was my thinking with the Polaris.
Distortion and delay were, to my musical pallet, the first two things I really felt the brute was lacking for how I wanted to use it but this might just be because I don’t know any better and these are the traditional things I understand. I would like these to be modules rather than pull apart my pedal board or reallocate it to my synth setup.
I am also going to say something really stupid here but doesn’t the brute 2s’s sequencer do quite a lot of what a gate module would do? He says running for shelter from the barrage of criticism about to come his way :-)
Everything will clock to pro tools or I will use the MPC that has cv out and my plan is for the mono out from the brute to go straight into the sound card as well as the stereo out from the delay going into the desk and on an insert into the sound card too so that I can record both and use either and reroute dry or wet etc.
Thanks so much Jim for all your help and advice, It is really kind and helpful.
I might put together a virtual 6u for your critique.


It's a pie in the sky anyway, since I don't have $3500 sitting around to actually build it at the moment.
-- hostnik

you don't have to buy it all at once - it's modular - you can buy a module as and when you can afford it - get a mantis or doepfer case over the rackbrute though - both are better value for money and neither have a rack wart!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


did you have any direction in mind? more voices, signal processing, upping your modulation game

what sort of music are you making - and what do you want to make - this often helps in module suggestions!

how much rack space do you have available???

what do you find yourself using the disting for mostly - 1st thing would be to get a dedicated module to cover that use of disting so you can use your disting for something else!

and remember - you can never have too many vcas - so a quad cascading one is a good investment

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks for this Jim,

NP

You are so right about the rack but there is just something so aesthetically appealing about having it in the same wood etc and attaching to the brute nicely etc.
I am wanting a fun mini modular setup hence the 3u.

I completely understand the want for a rackbrute, given the minibrute and the ability to connect them - but seriously consider the 6u instead of the 3u - it's quite a lot cheaper per hp - and you will almost definitely need the hp - 6u is still quite a small modular - fill the gaps with blind panels - you can make them from cereal boxes if you don't want to spend money on metal ones - plus it folds together and fits the carry case better

I play many acoustic instruments in my music with real drums, guitars, bass guitar and a Rhodes piano. I love working with samples too and have always used an MPC for doing that. I am far more ProTools than Ableton 😄

I don't get on with Ableton either - used to use ProTools but moving to logic

I am not looking to become an out and out electronic music producer so to speak and have a clear-ish scope of what sound spectrums I am looking for from my synth. I have not gone gate heavy in my modules as these seem more for drums etc. - i might be waaay off here though.

gates trigger and keep open envelopes, envelopes open vcas, vcas let signals through when open - they're kind of useful!

The brute does a great job for what I want but hope that with just a few more modules I could add a bit more depth, texture, polish and complexity to the sound.

I 'just wanted a few modules' a few years ago - I now have a 100+ module synthesizer that outputs both audio and video which was never my intention and neither was synth or case diy (most of my cases and half the modules are diy) - it just creeps up on you!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


well that was quick ! - this was started before your reply to my last post - I'll reply to that separately....

ok so some great modules in there - again - bigger case recommended - as I suspected not a lot of utility - think plumbing! they are 'essential' for extending modulation - mixing, modifying and multiplying - really really important for the enjoyment of modular - almost as important as ergonomics!

rack wart - i hate these with a passion - especially these arturia ones - needless, overly big module with overly big branding if you ask me

plaits - fine - it's a good module - very flexible

mimeophone - it's huge - and not really enough modulation/utilities to support it fully I would suspect

polaris - it's a filter - I'd hold off on this one longer as plaits doesn't really need a filter

I'd want more vcas - they are incredibly useful for modulation as well as audio and plaits has a built in vca/lpg so you don't really need one for that - use another 4hp (in your bigger case) and get a veils! almost the same price but twice the vcas! veils will also double as an input module for external instruments - as it has up to 20db gain available - most vcas are effectively voltage controlled attenuators, not amplifiers - despite the name!

links is great - but I'm not convinced that you need a buffered mult at this stage and the mixers are very simple (ie no control)

distortion - hmm - I'd be more tempted to get a pedal interface and use a pedal - especially if you are determined to stay with the tiny case - and if you already have pedals - AISynthesis do a reasonably priced one in 2hp and it's even cheaper if you can diy!

Maths - brilliant module, a bit too big for a 3u, but buy this first - work your way through the illustrated manual - 32 patches for patch programming - the best modular primer there is, imo

Wobblebug - it's a great module but it's too big for this case - there are many many random sources - find something smaller

are you using an external mixer?

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks for this Jim,
You are so right about the rack but there is just something so aesthetically appealing about having it in the same wood etc and attaching to the brute nicely etc.
I am wanting a fun mini modular setup hence the 3u.
I play many acoustic instruments in my music with real drums, guitars, bass guitar and a Rhodes piano. I love working with samples too and have always used an MPC for doing that. I am far more ProTools than Ableton 😄

I fancied using some rhythmic modulated synth parts to do the job where I would have usually used a rhythm guitar part. This is why I bought the brute 2S and it makes a cool job of that, especially with the metaliser and brute factor.

I am not looking to become an out and out electronic music producer so to speak and have a clear-ish scope of what sound spectrums I am looking for from my synth. I have not gone gate heavy in my modules as these seem more for drums etc. - i might be waaay off here though.

The brute does a great job for what I want but hope that with just a few more modules I could add a bit more depth, texture, polish and complexity to the sound.


I am taking the first nervous steps into Modular.

cool + welcome!

My plan is now to get a Rackbrute 3U as my next steps and am thinking about what modules to pair with the minibrute.

No - see below

My plan is to spend around £300 per month to get one or two new modules every month give me time to get the hang of what they do and how to use them as well as still pay the rent!

sounds like a sensible plan!

Having done some research I have filled the 3U with the modules in the order that I plan to buy them (this is not the order that I plan to place them in the end)
I know that I could obviously get more in a 6U rack but think that there is a creative plus (and financial one too) to limiting what you have in some ways and this is only one part of my music making set up.
What do you guys think?
Would you suggest a different oscillator or filter to contrast the Brute 2?

will wait and comment when you've posted the link

re case: look at the total cost of ownership - price/hp - the 3u is way more expensive than the 6u and you will run out of space in the 3u very very quickly - personally I would get a mantis - way better value for money than the rackbrute - and no rack wart - but each to their own! - I'd recommend getting a jar (or dedicated savings account) and putting the rack rent* for each module you buy in it - by the time the current case is full the next case is paid for!

*rack rent = hp of module * (cost of case/(hp of case - hp of rack wart))

Do I have too much modulation and not enough sound source or vice versa?

almost definitely not enough utility modules

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks here is the rack
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copy and paste the url of your public rack

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Sorry for being dim but I can't figure out how to attach the picture of the rack!


I am taking the first nervous steps into Modular.
I got a Minibrute 2S as my gateway drug and am loving it.
My plan is now to get a Rackbrute 3U as my next steps and am thinking about what modules to pair with the minibrute.
My first priority is fun over functionality so modules like the Disting Mk4 and Pico DSP may be more practical choices but do not seem as fun to use as some other options.
My plan is to spend around £300 per month to get one or two new modules every month give me time to get the hang of what they do and how to use them as well as still pay the rent!
Having done some research I have filled the 3U with the modules in the order that I plan to buy them (this is not the order that I plan to place them in the end)
I know that I could obviously get more in a 6U rack but think that there is a creative plus (and financial one too) to limiting what you have in some ways and this is only one part of my music making set up.
What do you guys think?
Would you suggest a different oscillator or filter to contrast the Brute 2?
Do I have too much modulation and not enough sound source or vice versa?

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@GarfieldModular wow, thank you so much for such a feedback!
It's incredibly interesting to read such stories! It is especially gratifying that these memories were inspired by my music.
I was in Budapest 2 years ago, just before the pandemic started. And I was lucky enough to get into St. Stephen's Basilica and hear the organ playing there on exceptional holidays. Somewhere I had a video filmed with a phone where this organ is heard. I'll search and add here if I find it.
I hope that after the end of the pandemic, I too will be able to make a little trip to Italy, France and Spain, which I planned before.
Thank you very much again for your feedback.


I'm hoping to get some suggestions to start really expanding on this rig - any suggestions of pieces you think would be worth researching? I also have the Disting MK4.


Awesome, great feedback, and definitely the kinds of things it would have taken me a while to realize. As for the 2nd rack, yeah... I knew it was an ambitious goal. I later found an isolated Prodigy oscillator clone, and really the point of that rack was to have a variety of oscillators and filters that would allow me to mix and match the Moog, Roland, Sequential and Korg analog mono sounds as a basis, then extend from there. It's a pie in the sky anyway, since I don't have $3500 sitting around to actually build it at the moment.


They can rebuild it...bigger, faster...it will be known as Steve Austin, the $6,000,000 server!


For parallel effects processing, I use a 1-in / 8-out stereo Distribution Amp made by Studio Technologies, then I mix the effects returns via a Rane SM26B. By doing this, I can take a stereo FX feed, divide it without loss across up to eight different rack processors, then I can submix it all back down to another stereo pair for the return via the Rane. Those Rane SM26 units are getting a bit spendy as of late, but they're still a bargain...and there's all sorts of Distro Amps out there, although I would try and find one that's specifically for audio instead of the ubiquitous A/V distros that're out there for cheap (because, as a rule, they ARE cheap consumer-grade junk). But this would let you get away with a pair of send/return modules as being the only thing needed in your build, letting the Distro and the submixer handle the real voodoo!


Let's see if I can post this without erasing it this time...

OK, reworked the Boland entirely, mainly to get this closer to the actual 100M architecture.
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I changed the MIDI interface for sizing reasons while keeping much of the necessary functions. The power was switched to a 4ms Row 40, which NOW gives you twice the current capacity than the modules, plus I trust 4ms's power circuits more than Uli's. This lets your P/S loaf along, generating less heat and experiencing less strain overall...which you want. Other than those, the only other non-B. module left is the Clouds clone; I chucked the Distings and the 'scope so that you could have a second pair of VCOs for even better doubling/detuning results. Plus, I added the CV mixer/portamento module to the bottom row, which should let you make better use of your modulation sources. I did toss the multiples, though, as this is just too small a build for having a dedicated mult (especially NOT one that takes up 16 hp!) and it would make more sense to use inline mults, plus this allowed the CV mixer. The only thing I regret here is that I didn't have space for the phase shifter/delay module, but those are functions you can add outboard.

As for the second rack...it really strikes me as more of a hodgepodge, really, and I don't think it'll work out all that well. For one thing, the Prodigy voice takes up loads of space for what it does. And at $3400 and change for the second rack...if you're trying for that Moog sound, consider a Subsequent 37 instead. For one thing, it's less than half the cost of the rack, and you're 100% in the Moog sound "pocket" with it. Also, the Sub37 has plenty of other tricks up its sleeve, such as a step sequencer and an arpeggiator. And the cherry on the cake: since it's duophonic, you can (in theory) use it to control itself AND the Boland rack, depending on how you opt to set it all up. Better still, if you can find a Sub37 CV used on Reverb, eBay, etc, that would up your connectivity between it and the Boland rack while STILL coming in below the original cost!


Actually, I see a problem here...first up, that Erica mixer in the top row seems like it does too much and is too big for a source submixer. Also, it has a compressor onboard...but you ALSO have a compressor module in the bottom row, and that can get dicey when trying to set up levels in a modular. And you're eventually heading for a stereo image by the time you're hitting your output stage.

Do this instead: pull the Erica. Replace it with Doepfer's Mini Stereo mixer, then add a second stereo mixer for the drums in the middle row. Once that's done, the FIRST mixer should feed VCAs #1 and 2 in the Veils, and the SECOND should feed #3 and 4. After that, then patch the individual VCAs from the Veils to the two stereo inputs on the MakeNoise crossfader, optionally using the FX Aid XL for the 1/2 feed and the little FX Aid for the 3/4. This way, you're in stereo once you get past the sources, with VCA level control all the way to your output via the Veils' VCAs.


Hi Igor,

Wow indeed! This is indeed very beautiful. I am almost speechless that kind of good :-) When I started to listen at your music for no particular reason (I guess) I started to think back to my childhood.

I must have missed that great organ in Budapest when I was there back in the 1990's. Next time I will come to Budapest I try to check it out :-)

That reminds me of a small travel to Italy (several years ago now), alone by car, just a couple of days and I love to just drive around on small streets somewhere in the mountains of the Northern Italy towards the west coast when I made somewhere in a rather small town a little break and just walked around in that little town. Till I passed by a little church where I heard organ music, I almost continued my stroll when I, luckily, made a U-turn back to that church "to check it out". There was nobody in the church, only the woman who was playing the organ. In the beginning I don't think she was aware that I quietly slipped into the church and sat there listening at her playing the church organ, though a small church it had a relatively large organ with those large pipes. Beautiful to look at, somewhere deep in the mountains/hills, very peaceful and beautiful to listen at the organ being played.

It are those moments that will stay with you forever. Your music track here belongs definitely to this category that will stick. Seriously beautifully done, thank you very much for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield; wishing I was driving around in Northern Italy again :-)

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Hi Mowse,

Wow! This is certainly moving you into hyper space at warp speed, no doubt at all! :-) Lovely jam this is and nice long (could still be longer for me though).

Nice work here and thank you so much for sharing this, kind regards, Garfield.

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