VCO>VCF>VCA or VCO>VCA>VCF?

Is there a way around that this should be or classically be wired?

I'm using both approaches to be honest, some filters seem to behave better in different configurations, for a filter that is high self-resonating I'll usually go VCO>VCF>VCA so the Envelope can completely cut off the sine resonation of the filter.. And one of my other filters seems to prefer being fed from the VCA and would distort if fed direct from the VCO.

Cheers :)

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Me too, though thankfully I'm fairly OK with Goat and Sheep cheeses and a bit of good quality mozzarella on a Pizza.

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How about Cheese Machine, aka, Racky Raclette? :)

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I too learned something, so also a good day. Though if I ever buy a Diggy-Takt, I shall name it a digitakt :)
Lucky for me i can pronounce Elektron :)

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How do you pronounce 'Digital'? Obvs everyone pronounces it Diggy-Tal cos we're all a bunch of numpties?! eh!

So why does everyone on 'the Internet Tubes' pronounce Digitakt wrong?

And don't even get me started on Mutable Instruments Plates.... Oh, sorry I meant Plaits (Pl@ts) its an AT sound ffs! You don't fecking Plate your hair do you? Maybe you do, if you do, just plate that hair up and carry on.

;-) xx

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I listened to another 4 tracks last night too, all good, ambient relaxation :)

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Thread: Nani Kore?

Wow, really accomplished stuff :)

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Just realised I've been going over an hour now!

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Lovely track :) at least so far on Track 1 :)

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Fact is, we aren't gatekeeping people out of modular here...but we ARE trying to gatekeep people from making some really awful decisions and winding up with a generally-unplayable instrument.
-- Lugia

Here we go, this feels like starting an argument ;-)

I realise you always put the time in to write a heck of a lot, I read your first response and those of others and I just think, "way to go, disheartening another person who is interested in modular", then the response from the post originator was clearly disheartened.

I'm not a fan of this, I dare say some of the words written to me on my first post on this forum made me think WTF and Who the F***! Hardly the hi and welcome to the forum, be careful what you spend, DON'T DO MODULAR!

I feel there are more beneficial manners of helping, Blunt Critique is your best mate telling you that that thing you built is sh!t, you laugh and buy them another Pint, not a person they have never met on a forum they have just joined because of an interest in making music / sound or simply something for pure enjoyment.

So in general, I do feel there is a lot of helpful words within the responses on this forum but folks need to chill a bit.

And I'm totally fine with it if you don't think I should be pointing this out ;-)

My main driver is FUN and I'm here for the journey, and so far a Price: €6.226 Journey.

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Cats are an important part :)

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This was mainly.... MakeNoise STO via DannySound Timbre into MakeNoise Mimeophon with a shed load of modulation and modulating the modulation..... then some more acid techno like bits.

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I'm just going to let this play out for a while cos its weird.

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But don't let that put your off experimenting ;-)

I'm pretty sure I attacked starting modular from an "unpopular" angle, that has not stopped me having a load of fun in the process.
Now I find myself at the point where my Modular Rack is more about swapping one module out for another, sure I have a wish list of modules, but its relatively cash neutral at the moment as I sell things I find I don't need.

VCV confused the hell out of me to be honest, I found the hands on experimentation of having real modules in front of me to be more educational and fun! Its got to be fun!

It helps to have an idea what you want your rack to be from the start but these things evolve as you go, just start simple and small, I got a lot of mileage out of 10-12 (relatively cheap) modules in a Tiptop Happy Ending Kit case.

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That was great..... I won't be alarmed ;-)

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Thread: Behringer

I know its a bit draconian but could you give users the option to enter a comma separated list in their account settings so they don't have to see Modules in searches or Racks of chosen manufacturers. A Mute-List.

For instance, I have no wish to see the Orange-Perma-Tan-Baby-Ex-President on Twitter so I Mute associated words.

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Thanks for listening :)

Yeah, I think the Audio interface seems to have solved my problems with the pops and clicks.

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Really nice work there :)

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This is a lovely piece.

Where is our Capital?

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Thanks for listening :)

3 sources of Sine waves; the STO, the EvenVCO and a self-oscillating Rebach VCF-AB filter.
3 effects; Mimeophon, Monsoon Clouds, Pico DSP.

I've just noticed, there is quite a lot of the top of my head, its all my own hair even if its gone grey!

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Thread: Trance Gates

It was mainly my computer's in-built sound card, things are now better with the Roland Rubix 22 I grabbed off ebay.

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I'll be trying Clouds into Mimeophon, I'll probably use sounds from the ADDAC103 into Monsoon Clouds (no Reverb) then into Mimeophon, I expect this to be fairly fun.

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I was literally just playing around with things so I'd say its going to get more entertaining the more I play.

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Yesterdays first play with the Mimeophon

Its going to be very entertaining :)

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Thread: Trance Gates

Thanks a lot :)

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Thanks Garfield,
you are always way too polite about all of the music on this forum :) :) Cheers

This was a fairly quick patch, letting Marbles control all the Pitches and using it as a modulation source, splitting the EvenVCO 3 ways into Clouds, Pico DSP and 2hp Verb. Playing Marbles live for more variation, then there is a lower bass note from the STO which is probably not quite in tune but its low enough not to notice. I used the feedback on the Stereo Delay on the Pico DSP as another texture, also I had a play with Clouds live too as a bit of a de-tuned breakdown.

I've just sold my Roland SH-01 and ordered a Mimeophon which I think will fit in with this sort of style of play nicely.

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:)

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Thats a great listen :)

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Nicely done :)

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Thread: Sunday Acid

Though I think @TumeniKnobs cat's Poo-patching is a step too far, might need to ad a Instruo Scion for some bio-feedback!

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Thread: Sunday Acid

Thanks :)
This cat in particular likes chewing cables, her favs are USB but I have teeth marks in a few patch cables too! Not to be left unsupervised!

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Thread: Sunday Acid

You are waaay too kind, I'll re-check my levels, I've been turning everything down as the first few streams last weekend were distorted. :)

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Really nice :)

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Thread: Sunday Acid

Live streamed, same patch as last time but with added TB-03...

Look out for the highlights of Cat and a lot of elbow action! Oh, and screwing the tuning up by accident!

The usual pops and crackles are from the crappy soundcard, just ordered a Roland Rubix 22 secondhand on ebay.

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In case it interests you I have the following:

Divkid Instruo Ochd (8 free running LFOs)
2HP RND (Kinda Clocked or Fully Random)
Noise Engineering Clep Diaz (Clocked)

All very worthy in their different ways.

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Thread: Trance Gates

Cheers :)
The joystick is the https://www.modulargrid.net/e/transient-modules-7j
Underneath that are the DNI pro Dot and the Roaux LL8 and ep that is mostl for the percussion, though I have the Roland TR-09 playing too which is behind the rack along with a mixer.

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Thread: Trance Gates

OK, I bought the OBS Camera app and installed OBS..... Live tweaking!

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Great little sequencer the DOT, pairs well with a Robaux LL8, I like that the DOT lets you program ratchets and you can control Euclidean sequences with CV for a constantly moving set of rhythm. Programming it can be a little boring but its great for little fills and background percussion, I also use one channel as an Accent pattern on the Patching Panda Hatz.

If I was going to give a negative about the DOT it would be that the Trigger outputs could be a bit stronger, and the Channel mutes should come up first on the Long Press Encoder knob.

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Thread: Trance Gates

Hahaha, no fish in their, mainly insects, larvae, pond snails.... we are waiting for Frogs and Toads to find our pond.

I've improved on the gate envelops now, I can now play them via the joystick across the stereo fields/envelope-lengths.

Cheers :)

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Brilliant :)

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Great track, already spotted via YT :)

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Really nice :)

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Wow, much craziness but really good :)

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Thread: Trance Gates

Playing with the idea of Trance Gating with a couple of VCA Channels and some snappy and not so snappy envelopes triggered differently for Left and Right channels which ends up being a bit ping-pong delay.
Pitches come from Marbles then the Saw wave from the Befaco EvenVCO, filtered by the Omsonic FLF into Monsoon Clouds to create a wash of sound with all the reverb, out into Veils VCAs with a couple of ALM PipSlope's being triggered from patterns in the Robaux LL8, then the stereo goes into the 2hp verb to add some wash onto the enveloped sound from the VCAs. Bit of a Tuned and filtered Bass drone from the Makenoise STO and Happy Nerding HNVCF.
Recorded in one take, if there are pops, crackles or glitches its because of my crappy soundcard! Thanks for listening :)

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Cheers guys :)

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Thanks Garfield.

The Image is a scan of an old Japanese book cover I bought, I collect things with nice textures that I can use in Photoshop as parts of designs.

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Nice work :)

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I keep starting out to make a Drone based patch then it kind of changes.

Hope you enjoy.

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Thanks guys :)

So...
There is a background bit of BP filtered noise with random quant modulation from the 2hp RND then messed with in Clouds.
There is a Pip-pip noise which is a pinged filter with an envelope fired at it from an ALM PipSLope with a bit of Pico DSP delay.
I use all 4 parts of the ADDAC103, Bass Drum, Ratcheted kind of high tapping sound, then 2 different tone Toms. Hih-Hats come from the Patching Panda Hatz, Clap comes from the Prok CP, additional persussion from Roland TR09.
There is a filtered Saw wave bass note coming out of the Befaco EvenVCO triggered from the Noise Engineering Bin Seq, other sequecing from the Robaux LL8 and Dni Pro Dot.
Basically I was trying a patch with no Pitch CV.

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yeah, this is nice :) lovely piece.

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