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Good suggestion! I've had my eye on the Behringer 182 for a while. Great value even for the modest feature set. Strikes me as kind of a budget workhorse. A bit of a step up from a Baby 8 type sequencer (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-tearaparttapes-baby-8-sequencer) which is what I displaced when I got my SQ-1. So, I think it might feel a little like a downgrade from the SQ-1. Changing the direction of the sequence is not something I currently do much, if at all. But I do very much like being able to set the length of the two sequencers independently. The ability to disable individual steps to create rests within a sequence is also a feature of the SQ-1 that I use a lot. But, since I do have other gate sequencers that could sync with the 182, I suppose there are workarounds to emulate some of the SQ-1's capabilities. So, I guess I'll just keep my eye on the 182 while I keep hunting. Thanks!

Have you considered the Behringer 182?

It’s a recreation of the sequencer from the Roland System 100 that has a lot of great features in a relatively compact module (16hp). It can be used in parallel or series, and you can vary the (shared) step length. You can also drive it with a trigger, so it works really well to sequence with a separate gate sequencer from the one triggering your EG. the variable length is great for creating shifting sequences and polyrhythms in a really intuitive way. Very affordable as well.

You can’t vary the direction of the sequence or the length of the two sequencers independently, but it’s a small price to pay for such a straight forward design imo.

Hmmm... Strong arguments for the BeatStep Pro! I've already started collecting gate sequencers (Steppy, Euclidean, Turing). So, my thought was that I need to find module(s) to cover the CV side of sequencing. In comparison, the Tesseract seems to allow for greater manipulations/combinations than the BSP. But, the BSP supports longer sequences and also seems to be much more intuitive to program, at lease to me. Of course, the BSP won't fit in my rack. But, as mentioned, that leaves space for more utilities, modulators, effects... and, they're both in the same price range. (Don't mind me. I'm just thinking out loud.) Definitely considering the BSP. Thanks!

See my modular grid for EarJuice.

First attempt at a modular system and so will constantly change. I only have the top rack atm to fill and I have a Korg sq64 external sequncer and a bunch of external gear I plan to use. It's as follows:

303 clone
Korg wavestate
Korg volca sample, kick
Waldorf Rocket with filter I can use
Boss 202 looper
Roland SP 404sx
Model skulpt
WSG/01 drone machine
Roland j6 for chord sequences
Crave, and Edge DFAM should be coming soon
Bastle drun
Roland Jdxi just for vocoder
Korg Kaos mini for effects

I have others too and plan not to use software accept for mastering and effects. I have mixers
and MIDI thrus but of course I'm not going to be using everything at once. Mainly volca sample or kick, kaoss pad, bastle, 303, looper and Waldorf filter or as 303 instead. J6 for chord sequences and maybe 404 sampler. I have another Akai sampler for one shots but it's so laggy. Edge will get heaps of use once I get it.

So Korg sq 64 will be brains but modular will have its own sequncer more for live improv. With the plan to use that mainly and just add a few bits to it depending on what I'm doing.

The BIA is the main sound for drum along with new Tymp legio. 2hp samples for drum sounds. Then lots of gates n cv to trigger them. From there brains oscilator to add sounds.

I should also point out I already have modules I made not shown in the rack. I made a delay and have an 8 step sequencer (maybe 2 to finish off) as well as a bunch of oscilators from hex inverters. Might make a sampler n some others depending on how good they are and how useful. Could make multiples easily but I want to try and make or buy buffered multiples.

Anyways let me know your thoughts since it'smy first go and will take most of this year to complete. I went around looking at all sorts of modules and filters and envelopes but decided on a simple duel envelope and filter. With Pams workout along with bin seq and Clep I and the Korg sq I should have gates and CV and mods covered. 2 LFOs. 1 standard and 1 in the clep.

The guy at the store sold me the eq and output module. It's damn handy but it's a lot of space. The EQ probably makes a difference through my rockits but I can't tell much with headphones. It has a oscillator just for checking stereo systems at different freqs so handy but probably the first bad buy only due to 24hp size. The sapce fx and extra 2hp modules may get axed. The second brains will likely change out for something else just for variation. Also might look into noise generators to turn into hats n bits. Idk I love the korg sample because with the knobs u can change any sample into bass or drones or hats or clicks. Maybe I get something simliar or just a larger more complex sampler. I want to add voice n other type samples at some point.

People talk about maths and some other modules and I kind of get the functions but don't get the significance. Perhaps ppl have recommendations....if anyone will see this as a lot of time will pass and more changes will occur before I fill both rows.

Hi,
It also took me exactly a year to realize two things:
-A fully featured eurorack format sequencer module is very expensive and large, which brings me to my second point.
-Case space is very valuable, if you want to keep a reasonable case size (9U for example).
Before starting with modular I already had an Arturia BSP and it works very well combined with Eurorack. You can use it via MIDI with a converter module or use the dedicated outputs directly with patch cables, like I'm doing.
This also applies to percussion modules type TipTop 808-909, without modulation.
For the price of 3 of them, you have a good external drum machine.
However, the percussion modules with several CV parameters, those do make sense to include in the rack.
Best regards,

Don't do it! it took me a year or more to realise that its more sensible (Cheaper and more feature-packed) to use an external sequencer so I bought a second hand Beatstep Pro.
Its an easy way to add structure and repetition to my mostly generative rack and is so much easier than programming drums on my Robaux LL8, though they are cracking little drum sequencers.

Thanks for the replies! While I am comfortable with the SQ-1, I've only gotten into Eurorack within the past year or so. So, I feel like I still have quite a bit to learn. At some point, I would eventually like to get a more "feature-packed" sequencer. But I'm trying to be budget conscious... not quite ready to drop $500+ on a single module. Man, I thought drummers shelled out a lot of coin!

The rack mount for the SQ-1 looks cool although it does claim a lot of real estate. And, as I alluded to above, I may be gradually talking myself into a bit of an upgrade. So, the Moritz Klein 5-Step is maybe too basic for me. But the Tesseract Step Fader looks rather attractive and the newer mk2 version seems to go for only about twice as much as the SQ-1. Also, as I am still learning about stuff, all of the Step Fader's functionality is not immediately intuitive to me, so it could be something that I could grow into and learn over time. Thanks, again, for the ideas!

It's an exact clone, with the same components, so same draw

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3116258

Maybe this guy:

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-step-fader

It's seems to be able to do similar playability but with additional functions & at a fairly reasonable price.

Pricewise there is really nothing that can compete, I think. Maybe two of the Erica Synths x Moritz Klein 5-Step Sequencers can scratch your itch, but if you already own an SQ-1 I recommend you look into ways of mounting it in your rack using DIY rack ears. I sometimes see people selling 3D-printed ones on Etsy or Reverb, too.

I have a Korg SQ-1 CV/gate sequencer and think it's great bang for bucks. But I would like it more if I could get it off my desk and into my rack. What options, DIY or built, are out there for eurorack sequencer modules with similar functionality in the same price range? Most I have found seem to be at least twice the cost if not much more.

Hello!
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Nice 4 output LFO (master LFO and 3 outputs divided from that master). Knob for speed or sync to your clock source.
Not going to be my primary because it doesn’t have a sine output. But a useful LFO with some randomness and many waves and divisions to select from.
Pretty straightforward build.

Build

I just got this module, it's the only one until now that I knew I wanted before it was even released.
It's amazingly deep, the interface is stellar as well as the visual feedback on the panel with the different LEDs, the sounds I could pull out of this thing, the sequences, the modulation cycles with variable depth.... Oh man, I could see this one as the center of many patches or even a system!!!
How come no one is taking notice?? (although, Auza Audio have been completely silent in all their online outlets... :( )
Cheers y'all!!
-- jletra

same here, happy I found already written what I had in mind... I underline and subscribe to every word you used.

I think that the importance of ratings should not be overestimated. The diversity of expectations and experiences obviously brings them a rather subjective character. However, a clear trend, one way or the other, becomes real information if the 'survey' is sufficiently broad.

Pamela's NEW Workout: 4.77 out of 364 votes (this 15 March 2023) is a true indication. Personally, I have not (yet) adopted this module for various reasons. But this information (4.77 out of 364), added to the video demonstrations and various comments tell me that... yes, I might be satisfied if I integrate it into my modular.

The other important information, regardless of the rating, is in the 'why'. Why 4 stars rather than 5, for example. A comment on the rating is just as interesting, and often even more interesting, than the rating itself. That's normally what the forum is for. Even a manufacturer can accept an unfavourable opinion if it is motivated.

Open a Commenting system on people's votes so manufacturers can have a say or question a voter's stance.

Don't btw. We deal with a whole host of numpties on a similar system for beers https://untappd.com/WishboneBrewery

You could try contacting the voter, though of course no guarantee they'll respond.

Totally get it!

I just went through this. Thought I was just going to start with a single 64hp addition to my Moog SubH / DFAM setup and within a few months I'm at 2 64HP Moog racks and 1 84HP Roland case with 2 separate small pods for functional setups (1 for Pulsar sequencing and 1 for just my ES-9 / heart of the systems).

I know it's already way outside your expected budget etc, but something small like this might be a good addition in the future. I tried so hard to avoid the ES-9 / Aggregate device but now I wish I just started with this instead of going through the ES-8 etc route.

The module I use almost always is the fabulous Optomix. I have silver panel and black panel Models.
I heard that the older Modules used ""better Excelitas Vactrols but there is no info visible on the Vactrols.

They differ in the following items:
- The Black panels have the Vactrols stacked on a separate layer, the silver Optomix models have the Vactrols integrated directly behind the panel.
- The sound is also different. Most obvious is that the black optomix does a Bassdrum when with a strike input and no input. The silver panel remains silent.

Does anybody know which version is V2 and if there are any other important differences?

Any reason you don’t go for an ES-9?
-- Praveen

I have 104HP available in the Caixa, and the ES-9 takes up 16hp, a full 15% of the available space. It's also redundant with the Caixa built-in outputs, I don't need the extra 1/4" main outs or the headphone jack.

The ES-8 only takes 8hp. I'm also thinking about the Befaco AC/DC which only takes up 6hp (albeit with 4 outs instead of 8). I'm still looking for other module options, so I can 1. integrate with VCV Rack as an add'l modulation source, and 2. record multiple lanes at once into Ableton Live.

If I keep expanding (let's face it, I probably will), and get a more permanent case in the studio, then the ES-9 would be perfect there as I'll have a lot more room.

It's been done already elsewhere: https://learningmodular.com/glossary/

Is anyone able to control O/ and I/ parameters using MIDI CCs? (#33/34 on Remote Channel)

I have been watching Modular Grid for several years now and it has been a huge help in getting me started in modulars. I am sure I would not even have been aware of modulars much less motivated to dive in were it not for this resource. Naturally there is great deal of jargon associated with a technical subject like this. It seems to me that a side bar glossary of terms would be a big help, especially for newbies. Probably have to be controlled by moderators. Short definitions of stuff like CV, bipolar, slew and so on.

If it was me:

Okay …. So next command Will be Math••• to the VCA/LFO for Numbers or examples and tutorials.

Maths yes

Mixer - Cosmix

I'd hold off on this for now - but do get a quad cascading vca - a veils clone if possible (Big T music) - it will act like a mono mixer for now and a midi interface or a sequencer is a better buy for now

ADSR - not decided (vca with multipl ?) lost ans no decided

Maths will provide envelopes!!! - not adsr - but adsrs are less common in modular than you'd think - often AD is fine and Maths will give you 2

Cv/midi : lost and not decided

either one of these - ie erica mutant brain (nb used to be hexinverter electronique) OR

Séquencer ‘ perhaps à Berhinger ? Or to wait and be patient for next month ;)

-- clem75Paris

a sequencer - would wait and buy one you actually want rather than a 'cheap' one just to have one - this applies to all modules

Hi,

Welcome.
For that type of sound you are going to need above all a good effects module. I'm not very into this type of modules, but here are some of the most popular
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-morphagene
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-nautilus
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/endorphin-es-ghost-black
You will also need a pitch sequencer, this is a good option for generative patches
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-bloom
Also very important are the additional modules, vca's, additional mixers, sequential switch
VCA's
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-quad-vca
CV Mixer
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-triatt
Sequential Switch
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-151
A random modulation source
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/nonlinearcircuits-triple-sloth-white-panel
And for the case, I join the general recommendation, TipTop Mantis

Hey, im new to synthesizers, ive read a book and have been trying to gather my own information as much as possible but now is the time to start putting together my own rack.

So far I've put together Make Noise Maths, STO, and 2HP Euclid (Euclid doesnt show up on the jpg so I wrote it through text) because I got some good deals on them locally. I want to go for something very explorative and crisp, but I don't know of what specific direction to take it in. For reference, I love autechre, Ben Frost and Tim Hecker, but I don't want to exactly commit to that ethereal type of sound because as I understand it, it takes a lot of investment to achieve. At the same time, I don't know exactly what questions to answer in this introduction, so yeah, hope that someone is willing to help me out a bit!

Also, what would be a good case to look for online? I know I want to continue with modular when I'm older so I should get a bigger case than I might otherwise, wouldn't have to be super portable or anything.

Okay …. So next command Will be Math••• to the VCA/LFO for Numbers or examples and tutorials.

Mixer - Cosmix

ADSR - not decided (vca with multipl ?) lost ans no decided

Cv/midi : lost and not decided

Séquencer ‘ perhaps à Berhinger ? Or to wait and be patient for next month ;)

Any reason you don’t go for an ES-9? I went through every expert sleepers interface trying my hardest to avoid aggregate devices but the ES-9 turned out to be the all in one solution I needed. So many inputs and outputs it’s great.

midi to cv you might want to look at the cv.ocd or if you want it in the rack erica synths are now making the mutant brain

Maths - best Maths substitute is Maths - simply because of the numerous videos on youtube and the fucking fantastic "maths illustrated supplement" - why is it so fantastic - because aside from giving you 32 patch examples for Maths - if you think hard about what, why and how maths and the patching is working it will serve as a jumping off point for all your future patching - what if I do this, how do I do this, why an I doing this?????

there are many other similar modules - designs based on the serge dual universal signal generator - but Maths is by far the most popular and in many ways the best - not least the ergonomics are good and the configuration - 2 function generators, 2 attenuverters with offsets, a bit of mixing (including a negative output) and a bit of logic are enough to kick start an entry level modular...

& don't let the name 'maths' put you off - you are after all designing/building yourself a customised, analog computer that specializes in generating sound - ie a modular synthesizer

Thank you for reminding me - I did intend to mention the current SD card is some no-name product. I will give Sandisk a go. Cheers.

I have not had that happen before (I have several Distings). You don't mention what kind of SD card you have, but if it's not the specific type that the manual recommends then I would get one - they're not expensive. If you still can't make any headway then I would contact OS at Expert Sleepers, he will be able to help you better than anyone on here.

I highly recommend the Delta-V as a great envelope generator / LFO / VCA. Basically a mini maths!
-- Praveen

Thanks for the recommendation, this wasn't on my radar before!

I pulled the trigger on most of it. I got the Caixa 104, PPW, Alan+Enigma, QD, and the Veils clone. I'm holding off on the Manis Iteritas and any FX unit. I also wasn't able to find the ES-8 in stock anywhere (new or used), so I have an alert set up for that.

@JimHowell1970 I get what you're saying about utility modules. I'm hoping that once I play with what I've bought, I'll have a better feel for what I need. I like that the Caixa comes with balanced ins/outs, 2x buffered mults, a precision adder, 2x lfos, S&H, noise, and a stereo mixer. So I'm trying to figure out what other sorts of utility modules I'm really missing out on. Suggestions in that area?

Trank you for the Link this bible explains what thé LFO/VCA with multiples is very important .

So Math seems to be the référence : is there a same quality alternative ? And iahve you a Good réf• Midi to cv ?

Cheers

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I'm about to list some things as well... Was thinking startup and in action clips would be welcome as well. Certainly for more expensive kit. Be honest with when You can ship and most importantly... IMO... Communication.
That to me can make a difference between PayPal f&f or not.

Maybe this can help... Or... Maybe not...
https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=230155
-- Dub007

that's quite a good idea!

Maybe this can help... Or... Maybe not...
https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=230155

Hello, I hope I can get some advice here. I have a Disting Mk4 which seems to have developed an issue with the SD card reader.
I have 32Gb SD card that previously worked fine but now upon start up the Disting will show an empty screen after showing the firmware version (4.18). It does not react to any button pushes or turns.
The module starts up fine if the SD card is removed. The SD card reads fine on my mac but fresh format as per manual does not help with the Disting startup. Unfortunately, I do not have another card to hand to further check this. Has anyone else ever had this? Could the card reader in the Disting have failed?
Thanks in advance for any help or advice!

Maybe some reasoning for your selections would be in order...

why the battleship sequencer without enough voices for it to drive?

why the knobula? do you know how you could use it?

why no submixers?

and most importantly why no VCAS????????

I've only purchased through Modular Grid, never sold, but I have sold quite a few items elsewhere. My advice would be to list things at a fair price, accurately describe EVERYTHING, use PayPal goods and services for everyone's protection, and ship quickly with sturdy packaging. I know a lot of folks like PayPal friends and family, but I'm not sure I would be comfortable using that with someone who has minimal feedback.
Have fun and good luck.

EDITED Mar 12th 2023, 18:02

Hi, I’m considering listing modules on here but I don’t have any kind of reputation. Id also love to know what is the safest way to do the transaction (paypal?)

Thanks for reading.

Okay , I havé something now, Sounds better like that ?

or (Wait for update .m’a)

EDITED Mar 12th 2023, 15:46

and now the actual link!

ah good the thumbnail doesn't match - but not a problem...

the midi-cv module appears to be discontinued... may be impossible to source...

the sequencer is I believe very difficult to get hold of and probably not the easiest to get to grips with...

mixer ok...

no vcas... not enough channels of lfo/function generator!!! you will need these!!!!

EDITED Mar 12th 2023, 14:53

On this page you will find information that will surely help you: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/10775
-- Sweelinck

Thx !!

es8 or 9 - neither of which will require quantization as the output will already be quantized - possibly to talk to a computer/DAW

I have Several deeadbox (nyx HADES erebus v2)

possibly a sequencer - which may or may not include a quantizer - you may want more than one of these - possibly a trigger sequencer and a melodic sequencer for sequencing pitch (v/oct) and possibly gates

Excellent idea , is a drum séquencer like Drumbrute impact could to pilot ? Or minilog matrix were percer too

a quad cascading vca - I lik veils - clones are available - as it has enough gain to be also used as an input module if needed (most vcas do not have this)

Added on my rack

an lfo - probably multichannel
a multipl chan LFO black noise added but LOWER game ,

a function generator - ?'

a mixer (for combining the outputs of the oscillator)

a mixer for combining modulation sources (I like matrix mixers)

an end of chain mixer - to combine different sounds and output to ? headphones/mixer/monitors?

possibly an input module - so that you can amplify external gear to modular levels

some utility modules to help you copy signals (muult) and modify them
-- JimHowell1970

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2193237.jpg?1678630225

EDITED Mar 12th 2023, 14:10

On this page you will find information that will surely help you: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/10775
-- Sweelinck

Thx !!

es8 or 9 - neither of which will require quantization as the output will already be quantized - possibly to talk to a computer/DAW

I have Several deeadbox (nyx HADES erebus v2)

possibly a sequencer - which may or may not include a quantizer - you may want more than one of these - possibly a trigger sequencer and a melodic sequencer for sequencing pitch (v/oct) and possibly gates

Excellent idea , is a drum séquencer like Drumbrute impact could to pilot ? Or minilog matrix were percer too

a quad cascading vca - I lik veils - clones are available - as it has enough gain to be also used as an input module if needed (most vcas do not have this)

Added on my rack

an lfo - probably multichannel
a multipl chan LFO black noise added but LOWER game ,

a function generator - ?'

a mixer (for combining the outputs of the oscillator)

a mixer for combining modulation sources (I like matrix mixers)

an end of chain mixer - to combine different sounds and output to ? headphones/mixer/monitors?

possibly an input module - so that you can amplify external gear to modular levels

some utility modules to help you copy signals (muult) and modify them
-- JimHowell1970

On this page you will find information that will surely help you: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/10775

ok so maybe you could add some of the things that you think you want and then we can critique that and add the things you actually need

here's a few hints - you may want and you will need some of the types of modules mentioned:

to connect to your other studio bits and pieces - a midi to cv module (and possibly a cv to midi module) or something like a expert sleepers es8 or 9 - neither of which will require quantization as the output will already be quantized - possibly to talk to a computer/DAW

possibly a sequencer - which may or may not include a quantizer - you may want more than one of these - possibly a trigger sequencer and a melodic sequencer for sequencing pitch (v/oct) and possibly gates

a quad cascading vca - I lik veils - clones are available - as it has enough gain to be also used as an input module if needed (most vcas do not have this)

an lfo - probably multichannel

a function generator - I like maths, as it has the best documentation, particularly the 'maths illustrated supplement'

a mixer (for combining the outputs of the oscillator)

a mixer for combining modulation sources (I like matrix mixers)

an end of chain mixer - to combine different sounds and output to ? headphones/mixer/monitors?

possibly an input module - so that you can amplify external gear to modular levels

some utility modules to help you copy signals (muult) and modify them

It should be start

make the rack public in edit rack and then copy the url and paste it into the post....

With pleasure i built my rack but I cant share it , just a jpg . Is sharing possible to suscribe Unicorn ? It could to be That ? https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2193237.jpg

EDITED Mar 12th 2023, 12:34