Nice, that sounds very useful. But to use an oscillator as a modulator it doesn't actually need the offset, right?

By using a CV conditioner like the Ladik M-120 . It can mix two channels of audio/CV (and invert them) and add a negative or positive offset to the mix. It is 'DC coupled' meaning it will not filter out DC (as opposed to audio/hi-fi gear).

EDITED Nov 30th 2016, 20:59

Very interesting, and how would you add the offset to make the voltage above zero?

Amazing, so there's no issue with mixing AC and DC signals?
-- Plurnstyle

As long as you respect the expectations on the receiving side, no. (As in most cases in life ;-)
Meaning most audio gear - like PA systems or studio gear - will get upset when your modular output has DC in it. Such gear usually has steep filters to prevent anything below 20Hz to ever reach a speaker. Power amps often shut down when they sense DC. At the very least it will lessen your headroom. But inside a modular often mixing of AC and DC ist required for CV, such as shifting a LFO signal (AC) swinging between -3V and +3V into unipolar so it moves between 0 and +6V by adding +3V offset (DC). Even audio gets hefty DC applied to it in some distortion units.

EDITED Nov 30th 2016, 18:30

Amazing, so there's no issue with mixing AC and DC signals?

Hello to all members,

I am new to modular, but i want a small case to use it next to my MFB Tanzbar analog drum computer (with CV and clock out) My question is: Is it possible to sync the LFO, VCF and Drum modules like this? Or do i miss something?
I will use the Tanzbar (drum computer) for clock sync out and also the sequencer (3 CV outputs). Also this rack must function stand alone with the Arturia Beat Step (V1).

Thanks....

EDITED Nov 30th 2016, 01:57

I want to alert all of you that the user @vjunker has cheated me.
I paid 227€ (through bank transfer...) the 20th september for a MI rings which is never arrived. After my mails about the delay, he said that the package was without the tracking number, so, he could not do anything. Unfortunately I have his mails in which he wrote that the package was insured (and i can't imagine how a package could be insured without a tracking number. Anyway, his last reply to my mails go back to 20th october. He is still selling modules, so, if you don't want to be cheated like me, avoid this user.

So how would you set up an Oscillator with no cv output, as an LFO? Presumably you just slow down the Oscillator and plug it's audio output into a cv input, right??

-- Plurnstyle

Yep. Any OSC that can go slow enough can work as an LFO.
Likewise, an audio OSC with square output and adjustible pulse width can produce triggers and gates.

EDITED Nov 29th 2016, 17:55

So you can plug audio signal into cv input even though it's AC to DC?
I just want to use an a basic oscillator as an LFO, it should be simple...

So how would you set up an Oscillator with no cv output, as an LFO? Presumably you just slow down the Oscillator and plug it's audio output into a cv input, right??

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ModularGrid moved to a new server. Everything is multiplicated by 3 and overall experience should feel a tad snappier now.

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I'm new to this support group and I thought I'd introduce myself.my name is jessica patel .

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EDITED Nov 29th 2016, 10:23

The top two levels are what I've got.

The bottom row right is stuff I'm selling.

Bottom left and row above is stuff I'm considering getting.

EDITED Dec 11th 2016, 00:29

...I want is to be able to use a standard oscillator as a modulator to control cutoff frequency, ...
-- Plurnstyle

Short answer: Yes you can use adio as CV.
Not sure what you are getting at though. To ''use a standard oscillator as a modulator to control cutoff frequency" you don't require audio as CV?

EDITED Nov 28th 2016, 19:27

I'm just starting to design a modular synth and i have a beginners question. Is it possible to use an Audio signal as a control voltage? Essentially all I want is to be able to use a standard oscillator as a modulator to control cutoff frequency, like you can do on the Pro-1 or EMS synth. I presume it is possible, but I realize that Audio is AC voltage and CV is DC voltage. So is it safe to mix these signals? Maybe someone brave can just try it and see if it works...

EDITED Nov 28th 2016, 17:41

Had a good transaction with @xPump who was communicative and conscientious before, during, and after my purchase from him. Would buy again.

Basimilus Iteritas Alter makes an ideal companion to swap in and out of this rack.

Though it would be nice to be able to keep the Ultra Random as well. :-/
Could always swap the BIA into Straylight for the Zvex Lo Fi Junky instead.

EDITED Dec 7th 2016, 21:52

Had a perfect deal with @Ping Panic. Everything went super smooth and easy and the modules were just as described.
Would do business again anytime.

EDITED Nov 27th 2016, 20:46

Making deals with @magneteyez was a total pleasure.
Really nice guy.

I don't have personal experience with Cells but it should easily do the job, and a lot more. Unless you specifically require that 'more' you may want to consider getting a sequencer (or even a mixer) and a quantizer, both of them cheap and simple. The combo would do the job of 'sequencing the sequence' plus be applicable to other diverse tasks. Just a thought.

@wiggler55550: thanks for the interest

offsets simply are “fixed” control voltages, we deal with them all time long within modular synthesis. For instance, you set the pitch knob of an oscillator to 12 'oclock, you don't move it anymore: you just set an offset; then you might want to control the pitch, of the notes the VCO will play, by means of a keyboard or capacitance plates (probably similar to the ones of this Cells module), so you will send a different offset to the VCO each time you play a different note of the keyboard.

I try to explain my need.
I will purchase Intellijel uScale II, it features a Shift Input which accept voltages in order to obtain 3 functions: (a) to navigate among the pre-stored scales, (b) to shift the interval note, (c) to shift the tonal note. Adopting fluctuating voltages (any cv source controllable by the means of a pot) I couldn't skip values and go immediately & exactly to the desired scale, interval, tonal note. Hence, pre-stored offsets are essentials to this kind of application.

It seems this module might make the grade: to store voltages (offsets) and to recall them by the means of capacitance plates, Sequencer might be engaged as well, though not necessarily. My only doubt concerns the HP width of this module, referring to my need, otherwise it is cool wide.

Sorry, I didn't even notice there's a video, I will watch it, thanks.

Best

Not sure what you mean by 'offsets' here. Each pad stores a voltage value (actually two) which then can be played back in arpeggiator or sequence fashions. If you want to sequence the pitch of an osc or add an offset to a CV coming from (and going to) somewhere else is up to you. Did you watch the demo on its homepage?

Bought a Bishops Misc from @kires . Ultra fast shipping and well built module. Would recommend as a seller.

FYI, there is a way to hide your personal module submissions from the community.
-- dysonant
Yes, it's actually the default setting. I've noticed a few people have added my blind panels to their racks in MG, so I'm happy to make them available for the fun and aethetics of putting together layouts here.

FYI, there is a way to hide your personal module submissions from the community.

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/twisted-electrons-cells

Hello,

Is this module to save and recall offsets by the means of touch pads?
In any case, could you show other options in the eurorack modular realm for the same application, possibly in smaller HP room?

Best regards,
FM

EDITED Nov 25th 2016, 21:29

I'd definitely get a minibrute too. You wont regret it Justin.

EDITED Jun 7th 2021, 07:23

Hi all,
I'm on the verge of diving in the wonderful world of modular. I know the basics of subtractive synthesis, but i never owned a modular system.......untill now(maybe).
A friend of mine is selling his 3U 114HP case with a Meanwell RT65B power supply and his Intellijel Atlantis module for a very good price.
I have a couple of questions:
- is this setup a good starting point?
- if yes, what are good modules to complement the atlantis and/or fill the rest of the case?

I don't need a sequencer for now. If i buy this setup, i would use my A4 CV to sequence and clock the system.

All help is greatly appreciated:)

Thanks!

Bought a Phonogene from @starkwether. Responsive, and no issues. Recommend as seller.

Sold a Phonogene to @peterfs , no issues, rec'd buyer!

Hey there!
First of all, thanks to this amazing site and thanks to all of you for discussion about eurorack. I'm literally spending hours reading, watching, all the incredibile info on this community. So, again, thank u.

I've decided to open my first thread ever (i mean, ever.) because i would like to have some input, feedbacks from you guys.
About what? Of course about what i should buy for my modular, what i really miss there bla bla.
As you can see in the pic, i already own all of that module (i found a lot of really great deal on the marketplace, some module are not already here, but they will arrive).

So, what i miss guys? What i really need?
You don't see any effect module, because i will use my Earhquacker Device Pedals "Avalanche" for an incredibile and complex reverb and delay. I don't care about interaction with midi and computer (even if i have the doepfer A-190-3 just in case). I have also another sequencer (Pittsburgh Sequencer), a Korg SQ-1 and a Noise (Doepfer A-118) and a Mutant Bassdrum (Hexinverter).
So fell free to guide me, help me, suggest module or something that i really need (i've an extra doepfer case, the little one..)
I'm building and playing with my modular in many ways, but let's say that i'm really into (fucked up) all the ambient /drone (melodic) stuff. So, keep in mind that please.
My two fav band? Nine Inch Nails and Stars Of The Lids.

Thank to all of you for your time, and if u wanna write me, cool, otherwise, cool as well.
Take care, take care, take care (yeah, Explosions In The Sky).

Cheers,
Marco from badapuppi Italy

This patch wound up being a lot of fun to explore though I'm still not to the "generative" point where I feel like I've composed meaningfully changing songs. Still a lot of flexibility in this routing.

Ansible/Kria driving in preset 1, pattern 5. Mangrove is the lead in constant formant mode with Braids providing bass and peaks is Drums. Braids is in WLIN mode and Mangrove has constant formant on. I played with having my 2nd Mangrove be another voice or either syncing or FM-ing the main mangrove but wound up discarding the additional complexity. Not worth its weight.

Just Friends and Sisters wind up being the main points of control for this patch as a little variation to the Curve, Intone or Time knobs produces a lot of difference in feel of the sequence.

thanks for your comment. i see your point but in my mind we are talking about two distinctively different things here: one is, as you mentioned, the "wishlist". the dream rack. the plans for years to come. modules i would never be able to afford. racks i couldn't fit into my living space. just tinkering about with new visions. trying the unimaginable. thinking out loud. and so on....

whereas my feature request above has a slightly different view on the subject: a rack which is nearly complete (in this case 98hp on 15u plus 2x 42hp on 12u) and has only some 8 modules missing which are most likely to be purchased in the nearer future and which are also most likely to be the ones desired.

in such a case it doesn't seem to make too much sense (in my world at least) to create multiple racks which then feature only the missing modules.
what i actually envisioned to achieve with this request is a better visibility of the modules which i still need to purchase amongst the existing ones. just to be able to better contemplate over which one is the next one.........and to keep things realistic in a way........

The "wishlist" function would be cool, though I guess you could just create another rack and put wish listed stuff in there.

Clouds really needs an attenuation module as a patch pal, so you can control the amount of modulation you send to the parameters and have more subtle modulations (compare, e.g., the Echophon, which has attenuverters on board for this job (the white knobs)). I'd also think about getting something like a Wogglebug which would give you a tactile random source with which to modulate your other parameters.

Mixer wise, you might look into the Intellijel Dub Mix with the Aux expanders.

Also, maybe have look at the Phonogene.

hi there,
maybe this is really sad but i just woke up with this thought about a modulargrid feature which i would like share here: there a hell of a lot hypothetical racks being created here. i am also filling existing but empty rack space in my planner with desired but not yet purchased modules as well. so here goes my suggestion:

would it be possible to consider a button on every module, maybe just below the info and delete buttons, to select if the specific module in my rack does actually physically exist in my proper rack or not. one way of visually solving this could be that once the button is enabled or disabled the module in my grid turns more opaque or, respectively, is displayed in all its glory.

this just crossed my mind because the bigger rack i'm owning has many more modules which i physically own than not. but sometimes, when i would like to acquire a new addition with a little spare money i have to think which one is the one which will actually make it into the rack then. being able to visually distinguish between the ones i'm using and the ones i still need to purchase would make this process of thinking and deciding a little easier.
plus, all those dreamy fantasy racks would turn a little more realistic as well.

what do you think? is that request feasible?

thank you for all your efforts.

@captbleep thanks for the suggestions. frames looks it could be incredibly versatile in the long run.

Expert Sleepers makes great modules for getting stuff out of a DAW and into a modular. Check out the ES-8 (USB) and ES-3 (ADAT) in particular. In combination with their Silent Way plugin, you can even send CV directly to your modular from your DAW. No MIDI conversion required. You also might want to swap out one of those performance mixers for a Mutable Instruments Frames. Does something similar (signal routing) but in a unique way.

Hello all!
I'm new here (long time lurker)

I have a way of working in my DAW That i'm happy with but I want to move it into a live context.

Instead of investing in guitar pedals, a live mixer and Midi controller I'd rather start acquiring eurorack modules
which will be far more versatile, powerful and be a better investment (for when I inevitable take the plunge)

The way I work is based around 8 or so midi channels of Euclidean patterns fed to VST's samplers etc.
I essentially want the ability to send 4-6 channels of audio form my soundcard to a rack so I can process the signals there
(using effects in a tactile dub-like fashion) by taking these Midi channels and converting them into triggers and control voltages

I've started sketching out a rack above and I'm looking for suggestions really for work flow, the 'mideco' may not be the best way of converting the incoming midi to control voltages/triggers and I know there are alternative live mixers around (wmd- to pricey, blue lantern - seems like its been discontinued or very hard to come by - certainly in europe)
and any suggestions for effects modules would be great. Anything that mangels audio in an interesting way, or any versatile dsp effects modules.

EDITED Nov 19th 2016, 13:57

Hey guys,

I have a moog mother 32 and was wanting to expand it. How does my extra row of modules look? Anything any of you would recommend i consider?

EDITED Nov 18th 2016, 15:27

Thanks for the reply.

I have the same post over on Muff Wiggler and have received the same advice, seems I have some more research to be getting on with!

Hi and welcome, returncodezero!
Looking good to me. I would want an envelope in there though. And a LFO will be little use if you don't have an attenuator. THe M-120 is a useful one, also inverts and mixes CVs and gives you a manual fixed voltage.

there is an 'edit module' button in the upper right corner – feel free to upload a new image ;)

Hi Everyone, I'm new here and Eurorack! I have done some fairly extensive research and I am quite keen on getting involved, however could use some advise on my proposed set-up. I am not new to synthesis per-say, however Eurorack stuff I am.

I have an idea of what I want to achieve sonically (Abstract/Glitch/IDM) and I have created an idea of a basic set up over on Modulargrid however I just wanted to get some feedback on it, hope that's cool?

Rack proposal:

VCO - Doepfer A-110-1 (Vintage Edition)
Filter - Doepfer A-124 WASP Special Edition
VCA - Doepfer A-130
LFO - Doepfer A-143-9
Mixer - Doepfer A-138a
Mutable instruments - Clouds

1. What Case/ BUS/ Power Supplier would be compatible?
2. Is there anything else to ensure the system would run?

Really hope you can advise me, any tips or other recommendations welcome.

Many thanks in advance

eBay right now

On the modules detailpages you see a list of offers on eBay for the current module.

Pittsburgh Structure enclosures seem to have the biggest power supplies and are available here in oz.....realise this is probably too late. How did u go? Also what thoughts on the Roland analogue stuff if u got it?

EDITED Nov 16th 2016, 14:17

This module is not 3HP .. website states 8HP.

Patch 24

Elektron Machine Drum only triggers to modular synth. (gate and cv)
Elektron Machine Drum
Custom Eurorack Modular
Eventide Pitch Factor

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Patch 23

Elektron Machine Drum only triggers to modular synth. (gate and cv)
Elektron Machine Drum
Custom Eurorack Modular
Eventide Pitch Factor
No external computers weren't used in this video. Only used hardware instruments. Single take with no editing.

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Patch 22

(recorded at Tunç's studio)

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Tunç & Efe Çakır - Patch 20

Elektron Machine Drum
Vermona DRM1 MkIII
Custom Eurorack Modular
Eventide Pitch Factor
Rolan Re-201
N.I.Reaktor 6 Blocks
(recorded at Tunç's studio)

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EDITED Nov 15th 2016, 05:05

Produced, Mixed, Recorded & Performed Synthesizers by: Tunç Çakır
Music by: Tunç Çakır

Buy and listen album from this link: http://wicrecordings.lnk.to/voltagecontrolledmusic

Track on the album "Voltage Controlled Music"
No external computers weren't used in this video. Only used hardware instruments. Single take with no editing.

Recorded at: Tunç’s Studio
Mastered by: Chris Sansom at Propeller Mastering
Artwork Design by: Perim Öktem Davutoğlu | www.perimoktem.com

http://www.tunccakir.com | http://www.wic-recordings.com

Video made by: Bora Çifterler
https://www.facebook.com/boracifterler

Thanks to:
Can Aykal, Efe Çakır, Emre Nişancı, Bora Çifterler, Ulaş Şalgam, Okan Kaya, Volkan Öktem, Filiz Çakır, İhsan Çakır, Thijs Lodewijk, Serkan Emre Çiftçi.

Vermona DRM 1 MKIII Silver
Elektron Machinedrum SPS-1 UW MKII (Main Sequencer)
Custom Modular Synthesizer (Pittsburgh Modular, Make Noise, Mutable Instruments, Verbos Electronics, The Haverstman, Doepfer, Stg/Soundlabs, Circuit Abbey, Intelijel)
Arp Odyssey
Korg Microkorg
Roland Re-201 Space Echo
Eventide Pitch Factor
Catalinbread Echorec, Dirty Little Secret MKIII
Marshall Shred Master

Copyright © 2016 Wic Recordings. All rights reserved.
All rights of the producer and owner of the work reproduced reserved. Unauthorized copying, hiring, lending, public performances and broadcasting of this record prohibited.

Hi I am looking at swapping out the Analog Replicator on my rack, as I would rather have a wave folder but it would be nice to keep a bit bucket delay. Is there anything that will fit in this small area?

Can anyone give me feedback? I think the the Mother 32 will eventually be pulled out into it's original case but I am to dependent on it right now. The synth block has grown on me but is another option for the chopping block if needed.

Thanks,

More picolicious goodness. Keep them coming!