I hope you are right!

However, The Clown was heard to be celebrating the fact that UK traders should be 'galvanised' by the thought of all the red tape and be keen to comply - or some such nonsense!

I had a contract recently, well a year or so ago, something smelled off so I started reading it properly, no joke, it was 23 pages long and it took me nearly a month of hard work to unravel it all - cross reverences and insane clauses like 'where the singular is used the plural is also implied and vice versa' - no joke!!! Try re-reading anything and applying that little gem to anything let alone a complex cross-referenced contract!

We're living an a Kafkaesque nightmare!!


12-12-2020 Frequency Freaks 3-Module Challenge Patch Notes

OVERVIEW
This patch was theorized in a few different forms during the week of Sunday Dec 6th to Thursday Dec 10th 2020,
the date it was recorded. Taking the many channels, modes, CV routing capabilities, and Channel trigger link
routing capabilities available on the Quadrax, an initial "bed" of frequency modulation (2 x Bipolar LFO at
audio rate) was created. From there the 2 audio waveforms were sent to Disting to be quantized at a major
third interval apart from one another (most of the time, transpose function was used in performance on the
Carrier VCO) and these CV's were sent back into Quadrax and applied to LFO Rise for 1v/oct tracking. While more
detail is provided below for each module, what happens from here is the combination of the unfiltered signal
and the filtered signal from Spectravox, each sent into an input on Hexmix with some EQ and level control.

Quick note on choosing pitches and intervals:
During performance, I felt that adjusting the X and Y Attenuation on Disting's H3 Dual Quantizer algorithm
was very satisfying as it expanded and contracted the range not only of the notes themselves but also
changed the FM relationship between Carrier (Quadrax Ch. 1) and Modulator (Quadrax Ch. 2) oscillators
(Bipolar LFO algorithm at audio rate)

  1. INTELLIJEL QUADRAX
    Channel Algorithms
    Channel 1: Bipolar LFO (@ audio rate)

    • acts as the Carrier Oscillator
      Channel 2: Bipolar LFO (@ audio rate)
    • acts as the Modulation Oscillator, as well as a Modulation source for other destinations
      Channel 3: CYCLE (cycling AHR envelope)
    • acts as a CV for Spectral Shift on Spectravox, in addition to being fed back into Quadrax CV C
      to effect Channel 2's LFO Shape
      Channel 4: BURST (Alt mode, in order to use a raw up saw shape)
    • many little upward saw waves that increase in amplitude until dropping back to 0, such that the
      aggregate shape of the waves also forms an upward sawtooth shape
    • This Channel is the source of CV for Disting's Dual Quantizer (both X and Y inputs), and has
      some effect on the RISE parameter (Frequency in this case) of Channel 1's Carrier VCO
      CV Routings
    • Destination: Channel 1
      i. Source: CV A (quantized pitch from Disting's A Output)
      x Applied to: RISE (acts as Carrier VCO Frequency)
      x Mod Depth: +100%
      ii. Source: CV D (Channel 2 waveform)
      x Applied to: RISE (acts as Carrier VCO Frequency)
      x Mod Depth: +25%
    • Destination: Channel 2
      i. Source: CV B (quantized pitch from Disting's B Output)
      x Applied to: RISE (acts as Modulator VCO Frequency)
      x Mod Depth: +100%
      ii. Source: CV C (Channel 3 Cycling AHR waveform)
      x Applied to: SHAPE (dynamic Timbre modulation of the Channel 2 Mod VCO)
      x Mod Depth: +100%
    • Destination: Channel 3
      (none)
    • Destination: Channel 4
      (none)

    Channel Trigger Links

    • Destination: Channel 4 (Burst Trigger)
      • Green EOR linked from Channel 3's looping AHR envelope
  2. EXPERT SLEEPERS DISTING MK4
    Algorithm: H3 (Dual Quantizer)

    • Initial Transposition (S Knob parameters 2 and 3) difference between channels 1 and 2 was +3
      for channel 2, then moving channel 1 around in intervals of +/- 7 and +/- 12
    • Attenuation (S Knob parameters 0 and 1) for both channels was initially set around 9-12 to "contain"
      it, expanding outward later on
    • Both channels received the same pitch information from Quadrax Channel 4 (burst generator) but
      dealt with that voltage differently (as explained above)
    • Output of both channels was sent to CV A and CV B for routing around Quadrax and to the wider patch
    • Z Mode Scale value = 3 (Triad). Best to keep a simple scale when manipulating timbre and intervals
  3. MOOG SPECTRAVOX (FILTER SECTION)

    • Fixed filter bank of 10 here worked to provide great spectral shaping
    • Faded in the Spectravox on Channel 2 of Hexmix, mostly panned right with EQ emphasis on mid (1kHZ) and
      low (100Hz) bands

IV. MORDAX DATA (Visualization Notes)
- Uses all 4 channels @ 5.0V Scale, DC Coupled, Vis: ON, Source: CH1-CH2, Offset X: 50, Offset Y: -5
- Channel 1 Pos: +15V
- Channel 2 Pos: +5V
- Channel 3 Pos: -5V
- Channel 4 Pos: -15V

V. BEFACO HEXMIX (Simple Mixing/EQ Notes)
- Unfiltered Outputs from Quadrax into Channel 1, panned mid left
- Channel 1 EQ: high band - 12:00, mid band: - 10:00, low band: - 9:30
- Spectravox on Channel 2 of Hexmix, panned mid right with EQ emphasis on mid (1kHZ) and
low (100Hz) bands
- Channel 2 EQ: high band - 12:00, mid band: - 2:00, low band: - 2:30

VI. PERFORMANCE NOTES
10 Performance Parameters (obviously many more could be added, but this list practically restricts
things for use in a short recording)
i. Quadrax Channel 1 SHAPE parameter (will drive different timbral results both for itself and
with regard to its' relationship with the Mod oscillator at Channel 2)
ii. Disting X Transpose (S knob parameter 2)
iii. Hexmix CH. 2 volume (begin patch with level @ 0)
iv. Spectravox Spectral Shift knob
v. Quadrax CH. 4 Burst length (FALL knob)
vi. Attenuversion of CV from CV C to CH. 2 Shape (push to -100%)
vii. Quadrax CH. 4 Burst Rate (RISE knob)
viii. Attenuation of Ch. 3 Shape from CV B (-100 to -50 or -25%)
ix. Disting Input X Attenuation (increase values)
x. Disting Input Y Attenuation (increase values)

VII. COLOUR CODING
Colour coding was implemented to match the colour of the oscilloscope channels on Mordax DATA, where the
colouring of a given patch cable is indicative of the origin of that part of the signal chain.

Quadrax CH. 1 - Green
Quadrax CH. 2 - Blue
Quadrax CH. 3 - Red
Quadrax CH. 4 - Yellow
Disting - Black
Spectravox - Purple Stackcable (except at the output of Data CH. 2 where I had to use a purple
stackcable to send Quadrax CH. 2 (Blue) to both Spectravox and CV. 4 of Quadrax

Octavian


I'm very new to modular synthesis. I currently own a DSI Prophet '08, original Roland JX3P, Behringer Model D, Ensoniq TS12 and several Akai and Roland samplers. I create HipHop, IDM, Ambient, OST, VGM, Dungeon Synth and occasionally synthwave or house. I first placed the Behringer system 100 modules in a basket and cancelled the order after notification everything was on back order. I decided to start with these.
The tiptop audio happy endings racks will be most useful for me since my studio room is already cramped. I have an Omnirax Force 36 desk (https://www.wwbw.com/Omnirax-Force-36-Workstation-548085-548085000203000.wwbw?source=TWWR5J1BB&cntry=us¤cy=usd) and the right side monitor stand/rack bay is cleared and ready to install two of the racks which are on the way. One of them comes has the power module. So far, I've ordered a Pittsburgh SV1-b, Noise Engineering Mimetic Digitalis and a Erica Synths Black Hole DSP 1.
I want to sequence the sv1b and the model D (staying in it's own box) for normal synth patterns and create long ambient sounds maybe get a little crazy with noises. I can stand to afford one more module for my first crack at this. Any recommendations? I thought about getting a Serpens Modular Hydrus but I have yet to see a video or demo of it. The description sounds like something I would utilize but not totally sure and I'm trying to fight my low level OCD of completing that 8 HP left in the first rack. The second rack will be in the closet ready for expansion once I feel confident enough creatively and financially to grow.
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Thread: My 1st Rack

Hi Guys.

Thanks for your input so far. The quoting in this forum doesnt work as easy as thought and the rack is not updated correctly.
However, the Neutron is not part of this Rack.

I built this rack with any modules I could lay my hand's on 2nd hand. So therefore some of them might be to big or overblown (Doepfer) and I will exchange them over time surely. Mainly to gain space. ;-)
Especially thanks for the QPLFO and the 4VCA. Will keep looking for those.
Regarding support modules (Attenuators etc.) I am not yet sure as for what I might need them.
Maths i looked into but was a little hesitant as I might be overwhelmed with its functions. But I already noticed that something between my existing ADSR and LFO's could be fun to play with.

So what do you recommend to look out for next? VCO wise I am equipped I think, modulators like MATHS etc. could be interesting. Also the WMD Toolbox seems like something.

Thanks in advance.
With kind regards
Jan


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I would remove the Neutron from the case as first step as it takes way too much valuable HP.
You don't really need it.
It was added as a Test and removed already. As said, I do not own it. Somehow the rack was not updated.

Next step is you need support utilities and modulation sources like LFOs, attenuator/attenuverters, mults and logic. Adding something like a Batumi or Divkid 0chd would give you a good modulation start and something like Mutable Instruments Shades or Noise Engineering Lapsus Os would provide attenuators and maybe throw in a Kinks and Links for support modules.
I looked at the 0chd. Interesting LFO and thanks for the MI and NE tipps.
Regarding support modules (Attenuators etc.) I am not yet sure as for what I might need them.

Next thing: how are you sequencing the rack? Maybe get a basic step sequencer if you want to create beats either in case or external like a Korg SQ-1 or Arturia Keystep with CV control. A good in rack basic sequencer and clock that I love is Pamela's New Workout as it small, powerful, easy to use and does a ton of cool stuff.
Sequencing happens solely from my DAW via the Doepfer 190-5. I know it's 4 channels and I will not use it for polyphonic purposes. So maybe a bit overblown. However initial playing around was nice giving me separate control (playing multiple melodies etc.) over the VCO's.
Maybe I will change that over time.

Third- function generator like Maths or Quadrax would give you lots of options or maybe Zadar.
Maths i looked into but was a little hesitant as I might be overwhelmed with its functions. But I already noticed that something between my existing ADSR and LFO's could be fun to play with.

Last- effects, a delay and reverb would add a lot to your setup. You can get something like an Erica Synths Pico DSP or Happy Nerding FX Aid.
So far the Audio Signal goes into a small desk before recorded to DAW. That Desk has two external effects attached which I can play around. So at first No additional FX within the Modular was intended.

Thank you for your Input.

With kind regards
Jan


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Thanks Garfield,

Really enjoying these modules and the new setup. Mordax is a great module and love easy set tempos at different rates and offsets and the Mob of Emus with the Acid Rain Maestro is super modulation madness great for live on the fly performance changes. WMD has great percussion modules and my WMD Metron will hopefully arrive first week of January after such a long wait. I really like the MDLR case the two rows of 1u tiles are great and I have a few Intellijel 1u tile modules like Quadratt and mults. I will add more 1u modules after next year when Intellijel has more for sale as these have been in short supply and sold out quite a long time like their 7u cases. Did you ever get your new sequencer yet? I also have a Winter Modular Eloquencer on the way to add to my Doepfer monster base case and a Mimetic Digitalis for the 6u case with VPME Euclidian Circles. Should be a fun 2021 start with new gear and patch learnings.


Thank you Defragmenteur :-)

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Hi Sacguy71,

Nice jam! Lovely to see your MDLR case in action :-)

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

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Hi Mowse,

Wow, you got some quite special sounds in there, I love that! At certain spots quite daring using different sounds then usual, I like that :-)

Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

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I like this! :-)


Hi Farkas and Toodee,

Thanks a lot for listening :-)

Farkas: Though I didn't configure it as such, with the Sinfonion you can do indeed lots of different scales.

Toodee: Indeed, that cry kind of sound is done with the E330 - Multimode VCO from Synthesis Technology, lovely fun module. The "total" sound ends up with these two voices (E330 that cry sound and then that repetitive LFO sound is done with the quad VCO from Doepfer, the A-111-4) into the Warps of Mutable Instruments. I actually was testing and playing around a bit with Warps when these kind of sounds happen to appear :-)

Have fun with modular and kind regards, Garfield.

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Yeah, Van Der Graaf Generator and Peter Hammill of course :-)

He, he, that guy plays two sax at the same time, didn't even know that was possible :-)

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Hi Diego,

Well yes, if you look at it like that, then go for the Veils :-) I was thinking of the Veils to, just under the motto: "You can't have enough VCAs" however for me the user interface counts as well, the knobs on the Veils look pretty close to each other. Besides that, you don't have separate CV input for Linear and Exponential behaviour of the VCA; the beauty of the DVCA1 is that you can use both at the same time.

I agree, the Colour option is a nice to have but, at least for me, not a must have.

I am not saying that between these two particular VCAs there is a quality difference, however in general there can be quality differences between VCAs, depending on the quality of the components (and other possible reasons) why on one VCA the sound sounds better than on another VCA.

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience about the WMD - Performance mixer, I might consider it perhaps, bit expensive though :-(

Regarding (dual) VCFs... yes difficult one, another idea might be the triple State 700 Mk2 from Frequency Central, but I prefer the Black Dual VCF. How about the QPAS from Make Noise, that one is quite nice, bit different from the Black Dual VCF, naturally but really not too bad, you can do some nice stuff with the QPAS.

Good luck and looks like Lugia gave you quite a few hints & tips too; so tons of things to check for you there :-) Have fun and kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Removed typo.

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Hi Kel_,

If I read and understand the news papers correctly (reading in Germany as well as in the Netherlands) then with this Brexit deal both ways (UK to EU and EU to UK) there will no import taxes apply (free good traffic, i.e. as it currently is). But then again with how many pages, 1200 or 1600 pages thick contract, who knows...

I guess time will tell :-)

Kind regards, Garfield.

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Would love to see a live video of you jamming on your setups.


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Thread: My 1st Rack

Lugia has words of wisdom. I have Shades in my 6u case for mixer/attenuator/attenuverter and it works great for 3 channels. Also like the Intellijel Quad VCA that has lots of features in small form factor. Then I send outs to 3 channel Intellijel Mixup for mixer and love that especially since it has mute switches and super easy to use. I just got WMD/SSF Toolbox which is super useful as it packs a ton of CV utilities in small module: sum, rectifier, compare, logic, invert and switch. I had fun using it over a friend house this weekend jamming and trying out different patches.


Yeah. Some things happened here. All came together rather nicely. Really nice session!


Thread: My 1st Rack

Actually, I would strongly suggest redoing this build. The reason is because many of the individual modules here can also be found in modules which have multiples of that same circuit. Case in point: the two VCAs on the second row...one each, takes up 16 hp. Yank those, put in one of the new versions of Veils, and suddenly you get FOUR VCAs...plus six more hp to play with.

There's a lot of this issue in the build. Take a good look at the various functions and then see how densely you can go in the same or less space. Also, you can drop the Doepfer MIDI interface...you won't have space here for four voices of polyphony. A better move would be something like an Expert Sleepers interface, which would then allow you to send CVs, gates, triggers, mod signals, etc directly from your DAW via a few different pieces of software. Or you can integrate a VCV Rack build with this with one of those.

Lastly, lose the Vermona modules. They're pointlessly expensive for what they do...plus, too damn big! Have a look at 4ms's QPLFO (12 hp! duty cycles from low audio out to 71 MINUTES!) instead of the quad LFO there, and Happy Nerding makes a 6 hp stereo balanced out with metering, headphone preamp, AND a second stereo input which would work like an FX return, with its own ganged stereo level pot. Or you could just as easily add the Befaco Hexpander, and then you'd get three FX loops, balanced I/O, metering, master level, and so on...although, really, you might find that a smaller performance mixer would make more sense if polyphonic operation isn't going to happen. Have a look at Toppobrillo's take on that.

The ideas are there...sorta. This needs a bunch of refinement, though.


No! DO get the sax back out...but only after you listen to THIS:

My bet is that after about 10 minutes of playing this, you're gonna be looking for a suitable pickup...I know these guys have made ME reconsider picking up a bass clarinet again, but ONLY if I get it drilled for a piezo FIRST.


Went nuts...
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OK, this is different from your rework in some ways, similar in others.

The top row, I decided to consolidate the "main voice" part there, and have the voice module at the end. The two main oscillators are still there, followed by one of the Mixups for summing. Main VCFs next, then the Quad VCA was repositioned by this so that you can have VCA control over the Befaco's inputs. One of the Lesters went next to that to take advantage of the stereo I/O on that.

First tile row starts now with a buffered mult (yep, it's likely to be needed here), then everything's much the same until the end, where I put in a Stereo VCA to deal with the Lester's output levels to the final mix.

Row #2 is where I started going off...the row is bookended by your passive mults (yep, this is big enough for that), then the quad switch is next to give you a bit more routing control for various functions. Then Disting, Octa, Ochd...and I added a 4ms QPLFO so that you've got some ultra-slow (out to 70 minutes-ish) duty cycles for the modulation section. This is a nice thing because you can also tap tempo with it, or ping it with triggers to determine the duty cycle...in theory, the Varigate 8+ can do this admirably, with the result being that you can sequence (kinda) your four LFOs' rates. The Doepfer minimixer is next to sum those first sources, if needed, then the Blender got used here to crossfade modulation signals...yet more modulation automation. Added a Quadrax/Qx pair for 2 or 3-stage envelopes, looped envelopes, complex function generation, all that fun stuff, then I put a Happy Nerding 3xVCA for VCA control over mod levels. Two ADSRs are after that, then we get into the drum voice.

Now, that looks like it'll be fun...the hats are paired with the indecipherable whateverthing for your percussives. After this is the Violin Ruiner + the WASP VCF for processing these. Now...that next thing isn't a mult, it's a fixed-pan stereo mixer! The white-ringed jacks are the L and R outs, and you put the signals where you want them in the stereo field jacks in between. And yeah...the other Lester is here, and can be used as an "effect" VCF for the drums or, if you like, a second stage of Lester after the one above. Or maybe for the Bitbox...? Your call!

Next row, a very necessary thing with all of this sequencing: LOGIC! This provides the typical Booleans, plus inverters, three flipflop switches, and a clock divider. But that's not all, as I added the Fractio Slumnus after that to allow clock division or multiplication (ie: ratcheting), then I paired this with the 16-step sequencer. Then Stages, Maths, Zadar (WITH the expander!) and the Bitbox. Effects are next: Mimeophon, and the Pico DSP, then a submixer to sum effects (or most anything else you might need in tandem with the mixer). I dropped the Verb (seemed redundant with the Pico DSP) in favor of getting the Fractio down by the timing section.

Next tile row: the unbuffered mult, then the Noise Tools because it adds some useful functions (S&H, slew limiter, clock, noise). Oscope tile next, the delay, then another stereo VCA (intended for tandemmed level control of the Bitbox) before we get to the audio I/O.

Bottom row: Hermod, Pams, Voltage Block...and then, the Varigate 8+ for trig/gate sequencing as well as memories for the Voltage Block. Last is the WMD Performance Mixer, where I added the mute expander which ALSO allows CV control over the AUX sends on channels 1-4.

The only two dropped modules from the original were the aforementioned Verb, as well as that set of fixed HPFs. The latter, I just didn't see the point of having, and by dropping it I was able to put in the fixed panning mixer for your drum modules + their VCFs.

So, yeah...it's not the same as your shot at it above. I went in a direction that didn't necessarily add anything to the sound, but the end result is that the functionality you had before is now VERY bolstered by redoing the signal flow ordering and adding some choice modules to jack that functionality way on up. Result feels more intuitive, and the additions will allow a lot of new modalities that either weren't all there yet, or just weren't there, period.


Hi,

this is my contribution.
what do you think of it ?

Recorded in May during lockdown.


-- klodifokan

Wow! Super good. Really enjoying this.


That's just called progress @mowse! Glad to have you onboard, I'll reach out here in a bit šŸ˜Ž


Two of my tracks felt like they really came together, such that I use them as reference tracks for stuff I'm working on. That says nothing about what others think of them, but if I keep them in my personal playlist then that's good enough for me.

'Cygnus' and 'Become The Sky' are two that I'm pretty proud of. Between the two, Cygnus feels like everything just came together how I had envisioned. Anyhow, I have so much to learn that all of it will probably sound laughable to me several years from now.


Thanks! This was a fun little jam.

Oh, cool. I'll check out that post.


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Well said Lugia, and speaking of quantizers, some super duper functional modulators like Rossum Mob of Emus even have those as part of the package. I was messing about with mine last night and having fun.


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Thread: My 1st Rack

I would remove the Neutron from the case as first step as it takes way too much valuable HP.
You don't really need it.

Next step is you need support utilities and modulation sources like LFOs, attenuator/attenuverters, mults and logic. Adding something like a Batumi or Divkid 0chd would give you a good modulation start and something like Mutable Instruments Shades or Noise Engineering Lapsus Os would provide attenuators and maybe throw in a Kinks and Links for support modules.

Next thing: how are you sequencing the rack? Maybe get a basic step sequencer if you want to create beats either in case or external like a Korg SQ-1 or Arturia Keystep with CV control. A good in rack basic sequencer and clock that I love is Pamela's New Workout as it small, powerful, easy to use and does a ton of cool stuff.

Third- function generator like Maths or Quadrax would give you lots of options or maybe Zadar.

Last- effects, a delay and reverb would add a lot to your setup. You can get something like an Erica Synths Pico DSP or Happy Nerding FX Aid.


I PMd you :)


I'll check em out @aphex_goodman, and @yalivec if you want to post to a dropbox that'd be great or I can send you my email for wetransfer.


Quick thoughts from skimming this thread:

1) Love this convo and love the idea of bringing a process approach to the modular world, lots of room for discovery there and I've been trying that myself lately. Along with all the other great thinkers/composers mentioned here, James Tenney has a role here too and his writings are pretty accessible, worth checking out.
2) In addition to everything @lugia suggested I'd emphasize the role of function generators to add some movement, organic-ness, tension, etc to your music. A little harder to channel but they open up process potential in the continuous realm, and there's a lot of them to choose from.
3) Check out the Monome Crow if you can or want to code, it's a cheap and small way to add programmatic features to your rack. Want some quadraphonic melodies? Want a microtonal quantizer? Easy, write a script for it.
4) I know you've said you're not going to get the sax back out @funbun but if you're interested in hearing someone bring woodwinds and modular together check out Golden Retriever, it's really special stuff and half the reason I started my eurorack journey. All their albums are great, but I'll share my fav: https://goldenretriever.bandcamp.com/album/arda-viraf

Finally, I'll wish you good luck. And keep us posted, would love to hear some tunes once you get going!


Thread: My 1st Rack

Hi guys.
Build my first modular over the xmas days and gave it a spin.
Basically it's three rails of 108 in Size into a IKEA Cupboard. The width doesnt fit perfectly, have to finde a solution on how to fix the rails to the left. To the right their screwed to the cupboard walls.

I can post some pics if you like.
My main question is: Do you have some tips into what else I should build into the rack?
I am not looking into generative music or the like. My music is mostly DnB and I am looking for some other, unique sounds to my sound palette.
So straight forward Bass, reese Bass or Pad like sounds.
I think oscilator wise I am well equipped but I guess some other filters or other mangling processors could be fun.
Any idea?

With kind regards
Jan
P.S.:
This is the correct link:
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_309246.jpg

Somehow it is being shown with a Neutron which I do not own.


Haha, maybe!

Guess we will never know for sure...


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I would start with something like the MDLR 12u case with 1u tile rows. I quickly outgrew my two Doepfer 6u cases and already have most of my 14u case full. For a travel case, the Intellijel 7u is hard to beat. I plan to get one as soon as they are back in stock.


So much protesting Kel_, I start to think you are the spy this message was intended for...


Of course and maybe...?

...but these are real world items for sale that come up in search results... I think it is spam! Plain and simple!

I am resisting posting a link to the search engine results because then I would be doing their job for them!! If you really want me to type in the relevant terms and post a link I will do though... but come on?

Um, just realised to me it's plain and simple, but it might not be to others...

Search engines add credibility to websites who's 'terms' get mentioned on other sites... see how this works?

Trust me, it does work, it seems stupid, but investigations have shown as much as a 5% shift in stock prices based on spam emails - to an investor this is HUGE - it's insane - but true!

Now if only someone could point me to a verifiable real wold entity re. the numbers stations?


You know what a Numbers Station is? Posts like this are the 21st century version.

(Either that, or human beings are idiots, a hypothesis which is obviously not true...)


Dear Garfield,

Thanks for your comment, I think it's not the same track I shared earlier, but maybe it was, I clearly don't finish enough music, I need to dial down on the pointless jamming in favor of more output... :-)

I'll see if I can demo the Waldorf DVCA somewhere but from the get go, I'm not sure I could take advantage of its particularities. It's 20HP for 2 VCA's where the new Veils offers 4 of them in only 10HP or something like that. From where I stand, the color knob needs to be incredible to justify the extra HP and cost, but maybe I'm missing something ? In all honesty, I probably lack imagination, in my mind the only advantage a VCA module could have over another is the interface, buttons/knobs/jacks placement etc, but not the sound, am I wrong ?

You might be right for the availability of the Dual VCF, it's just that some stores already marked it as sold out, which usually means it's getting rolled out. Also, it's heavily discounted on Erica's website which also usually means they're trying to sell off the stock. Wait & see, I guess, I'm still not entirely decided on what to do, although I do want a dual filter, and this one with all the individual outs seems like a very useful one for my setup and the way I patch, plus it sounds pretty good... There's one for sale locally, might just give in...

Finally, about the WMD mixer: it's probably the best euro mixer I have tried, but I didn't try them all hehe. Let's clear your doubts first: no bleed whatsoever, or noise for that matter, it's very clean. Looking for cons, maybe the panning knob's curve could be smoother (still very workable, I'm being a Karen here), or returns could be stereo and I'd like to have 3 sends instead of 2. How much would the mixer cost in the end if everyone got what they wanted ? Too much, probably.

Take care,
Diego

--- Voltage control all the things ---


Yeah, works both ways!!!

Has anyone worked out what the actual implications are from this 'deal' re trade between UK and EU?

My head is spinning, so much noise and bullsh!t!


yes please!!!
having british pond offers when filtering the marketplace for eu only posts has been irritating...
cheers!


Very very nice ! Loads of cool moments there, really loving the sound that you are playing with at 5:30, I think it's the same that sort of "cries" at 6:40, seems well behaved but sometimes goes over the edge in a noisy kind of way, genius ! Is that the E330 ?

Anyway thanks for sharing and keeping us inspired ;-)

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That's a cool sound, Garfield. This kind of reminds me of a raga or maybe an Arabic scale.
I love discovering new sounds like this!


@Lugia: thank you so very much for the above. I know and understand all the above on a theoretical level but you add the "how to practice", just when I was looking to spice up my patching.
Yet another drink I owe you. If we put those together for all the people you help, you could probably open a bar :D

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Great idea @troux! Thanks a lot for your interest. I'm in!
I'd like to contribute this tune. I can send you wav file if needed.


Hey @troux and all,

Excellent idea and I'm humbled to be included on the list. I wasn't near the forum for some days but now I'm back and if it's not too late I’d be honored to have one of my tracks in the compilation. I put three tracks in this folder, hope one of them may be OK to go.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nro1zblzw214g31/AAC4m-fVZsFth41m46XiRoBVa?dl=0

Thanks again and all the very best to all of you!

Cheers,
Gabor

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Some fun experimental jungle beats tonite with the MDLR 14u setup


Nice one as usual @mowse. Now, which of your fantastic tracks from this year are you contributing to our end of year best of? šŸ‘€

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/9382


Which you shouldn't do. Not only do you run into the issue you've mentioned, you're also making the device you're UNcasing and REhousing more expensive than it already is!

An illustration: let's say you want to put a Moog Mother-32 into your snarzy new Pittsburgh EP-208. Sounds sensible enough...but then, let's do some math here.

A Mother-32 takes up 60 hp, and streets for $649. It has its own case and power.

The Pitt cab streets for $699 and has 208 hp total. 699 / 208 = 3.36, which is the per-hp cost of the cab.

So you stick the M32 in there. All of a sudden, here's what happens once you tighten down the last screw...

3.36 x 60 = 201.60. This is what it costs to do what you just did, which makes the M32's ACTUAL price in this situation $850.60!

Did you pay that much for it originally? No? OK...then why pay that NOW?

Eurorack cases are really for devices that DON'T have a case and power. Those devices require it. The Mother-32 in this example...no, it doesn't require it since it comes ready to rock out of the box. Yeah, I know, you see a lot of people on YouTube and the Interwebz in general doing this...but they're actually QUITE wrong in doing it. And I understand the whole thing about "convenience" and all that...but that "convenience" costs in exactly this hidden way. In short, I quote Admiral Akbar: "IT'S A TRAP!" Don't fall for it.


Also, check the "Too Many LFOs?" thread...I put quite a bit of info in there about how to work with LFO signals via other modules, and many of those tricks work just as well with envelope generator outputs.


LFOs are actually a lot more useful than they appear to be, and there ARE some modules that pair with them for some neat results...

First up, any synth that has several of these needs something along the lines of the Intellijel Triplatt. This is a set of three attenuverters that also works as a DC-coupled mixer. Now, why attenuverters? Well, what they'll do is to invert an inputted signal, and inverting an LFO means that you'll get the 180 degree OPPOSITE waveform. Mix this in with the original, and you get cancellation. But mixing it in at levels that don't quite cause 1:1 phase cancellation lets you "smooth out" the original waveform...which is very useful if you're combining several LFOs to create a complex modulation signal.

VCAs combined with LFOs lets you have sounds autofading in and out when you connect the LFO to the VCA's CV input. And if you use something like a sawtooth wave to modulate this, the results will be like a simple envelope generator connected to the VCA. For generative musical forms, that's really useful.

Then there's quantizers. Most of the time, we look at these as being used for extracting pitch CVs from the CV outputs of sequencers. But you can also use them with LFOs to generate CVs that run up and down scales. Even better, if the quantizer has the ability to specify scales/notes, you can make these skitter up and down (depends on the waveform you use) in tune with the rest of the audio coming out of the synth. With a pair of LFOs mixed properly, you can arrive at some very Shepard-esque pattern generation this way (one of my fave ARP 2600 tricks, btw, using the EGs in a "looping" manner).

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Comparators are a natural pairing with LFOs. What these do is to wait until the incoming signal level exceeds a level you set, then when that happens, they output either a gate or trigger. This lets you do all sorts of on/off control tricks with the regularity of the repeating LFO cycles. Better still are special types of these called "window" comparators...these have several voltage thresholds that you set, and a good one will output g/t signals when the level is below the bottom limit, and above the top limit...AND when the waveform's voltage crosses the "window" set by those two limits. Again, for generative work, damned essential!

FYI, comparators also play nice with logic...as do square/pulse waves directly out of an LFO. The typical Boolean logic tricks apply here...OR = one OR the other input can make the logic gate output a trigger or gate, AND = one AND the other (both on at the same time), NOR = neither on at the same time, and NAND = outputs only when neither incoming signal is on at the same time. These rock like you wouldn't believe for creating strange crossrhythmic patterns...again, super-useful for generative.

OK...so if they're just really slow VCOs (they are), can you do anything VCO-ish with them? Again, the answer is HELLZYEAH...you can wavefold LFO signals with the right sort of wavefolder. For example, EMW has a module called the CV Folder 3x...a triple wavefolder optimized for modulation and CV signals. And yes, there's others...such as the Elby "Mangler", etc. Couple this with some of the above, and you're primed for stochastic waveform MAYHEM. And there's one thing like this that's not exactly VCO behavior, but related...minimum/maximum-type discriminators, which take two or more incoming signals and then outputs the selected CV level, minimum, maximum, and sometimes also the median average of the inputs.

Oh, and yes...they do work with VCAs, but note that you'll need DC-coupled ones (which are usually linear) to deal with the LFO signals. A VCA in the output path of an LFO lets you do things like applying an envelope to the signal, so that you get level rise/falls while the waveform from the LFO remains the same. If you've seen the gatefold Brit cover for the first two Kraftwerk albums, the spectacular waveform on the front is the result of this exact usage. This lets you control the amount of modulation coming out of the LFO (or several, mixed) with any CV.

Can they turn things on and off? Sure can...just use a square or pulse output, feed that to an audio VCA's CV input. LFO cycles up, VCA turns on (or off...depends on how you've patched it and with what). Cycle down, audio off.

How about transposition? Yep...if you're using an LFO with a quantizer and your rig also has an adder, just feed the quantized LFO signal into an adder with the CV for your VCOs. This will result in the quantizer's voltage levels being added arithmetically to the pitch CV...and if you set the quantizer properly, you can get behavior that's sorta like the old "Juno Hoover" sound of rave tracks of old, especially if you drop a slew limiter into the quantizer output before it hits the adder.

Now, there's a few things that can behave in a very LFO-ish way...anything based on the Serge Universal Slope Generator (such as Maths, etc) will do this...but then, you'd ALSO get CV control over the rise and fall times, with that determining the duty cycle of the "LFO" here. Lots of two-stage EGs can act like this, too...Intellijel's Quadrax comes to mind immediately. There's also a bunch of interesting "specialized" LFOs, too...check out Ladik's L-122.

Yeah, these things are NO JOKE...in fact, they're the backbone of modulation alongside envelope generators. You CAN have too many LFOs...but you'll only figure out how much is too much when you run out of LFOs to screw with everything else. If that happens, you clearly don't have enough! ;-)


Thank you so much for all the thoughtful and informative responses. I think I understand better now, and have some venues for further research.

And yeah, it was screwing around with MATHS that made me ask this question!


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