use channels 1 & 2 of veils for L
use channels 3 & 4 of veils for R

plugging a cable into veils breaks the normalization between the channel you're coming out of and the next channel

also - 'maths illustrated supplement' google and download if you haven't already!

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sounds reasonable - hmm... I could use the tm to get a 'random bassline' into my sinfonion chnnel 1 (can be set to root and 5th only, very easily) - and dump the tune though... but I have other things for that, too... we shall see!

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you asked specifically can I use this as a multiple... basic reading skills and the ability to click on a link provide the answer!

if you'd asked:

does this

< Buffered multiple outputs
< Threads into three buffered outputs;
< source - the product description

mean I can use it as a multiple?

it would at least look like you'd done some research and don't just want to be spoon fed the answer!!!

so the answer is yes - you can, but if you want it for triggers, gates, cv and audio (and not v/oct) then it may be overkill - you just need a passive mult for those - buffered is only needed for v/oct (and in some cases where an output is expecting a buffered input - some make noise modules)

TBH - if what you want is a multiple - just buy a multiple - this appears to be massive overkill just for a mult!!!
or build one - really easy, if you can solder - if you can't it's really easy to learn - and a passive mult is a good place to start - and it's a very handy skill to have in modular synthesis - there are plenty of instruction videos on youtube - AISynthesis is great for beginner kits - like mults

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I get the distinct impression that I use Marbles and the 2hp TM for distinctly different things, I find the TM+Tune better for simple bass lines with a beat whereas Marbles doesn't seem quite as usable like that.... Marbles is probably great and I just need to twiddle the knobs to different settings.

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

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Bro, we sequenced your sequencer with another sequencer.

-- Ronin1973

that's the spirit!!!

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click the link and read the description!!!!!!
-- JimHowell1970

if you are familiar with the Eurorack then it is easy to speak. as a beginner like i am you don't understand everything


Bro, we sequenced your sequencer with another sequencer.


The amount of informations and knowledge that I can gain here are amazing, thanks guys. Although, I must say, I still have some really basic questions. Like for example - How can I utilize Rings, Plaits in Stereo mode, and both at the same time? Right now, one of them can go through Black Hole DSP and it's in stereo. But when I put them all through Veils, then I lose the stereo. I'm beginning to lose my mind or it has been a very busy day :)

Veils is a VCA. What effects do you feel the need to run through a VCA? Typically, you add effects just before the signal goes out to the mixer. But if you do have a signal that you want to keep stereo, then just use two channels of Veils. Split the envelope signal running to the CV input of two channels of Veils.

Studying Maths a lot, it's so much fun. But still - I feel so lost. OMG.

Watch this video from Loopop. Maths is just a great convergence of a lot of simple tools where the sum is greater than the parts.


Maybe add more sequencers? ;)
-- dadbodice

yeah maybe add another case for some more sequencing - you definitely need a sinfonion (or 2 or 3) in there for chords and to keep everything in tune!!!

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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

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click the link and read the description!!!!!!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


It should only light up when there is a signal going into it. If it doesn't light up then, then there is a problem.


i bought a mutable instruments veils some time ago,havent had time to try to use it untill yesterday.

but it doesent light up(no light in it)is it broken?

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Can I use the Ardabil as a multiple?


Befaco Lich has a patch called Polygonal VCO that is supposedly inspired by the Polygogo. I'm not sure if the two can be compared but I would like to know. :)

There is a demo here:


Maybe add more sequencers? ;)


Hi all!
Just want to let you know that my debut album "Still Life" is out yesterday.
You can now listen full record and get your copy here:
Digital - https://yalivec.bandcamp.com
Vinyl - https://polarseasrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/still-life

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-- GarfieldModular

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I just noticed you have both Marbles and 2hp tm & tune

so do I...

I'm on the fence for selling the 2hp modules

I'll probably either build a small case and stick them in it for a bedroom/couch case - or I'm going to sell them

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

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@aleszylder,

Does this mean you will remove the thumb down you gave regarding this user?
And will you remove the names you mentioned in your post as ‘possible frauds’?


Talking of Doubling up the SINE inputs to Timbre Seriously Top Tips there, I've been using the output of 2x resonant filters as my sound sources and I'm getting some Mad interesting sound sculptures out of Timbre into Clouds :) Then riding the filter cut-offs for the sine tone gets crazy AF!
Much happy noodling with dark ambient madness!

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Hey, there's a troublesome seller - @tommiedj
I transferred him money for Intellijel Steppy on Sep. 16, and he stopped answering my messages.
He has several modules on sale, all recent (which now I see suspicious). It looks legit because of the good votes from other users, some of them registered as users long time ago, but now I see they have crossed positive votes between them. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/173328 Also suspicious is that several have recently added modules on sale.

Unfortunately I cannot vote the other users since I have not contacted them, but I suppose they are all frauds: @Kaneda87 @wrongdisplay @asdfqwer @dosko64 @DirkB @wolvero @tokkeherfst @pikseliahky (and a lot more since these users have their own positive votes)

The paypal account I sent the money to is ***@gmail.com
Tried to contact him, no success.

Be careful with this guy. It seems I got ripped off :/

Edit: yesterday I got my money returned from him and an apology.

-- aleszylder

Edit: yesterday I got my money returned from him and an apology.


That sounds really wild. I'm not sure how I have never stumbled across the Polygogo before. I'm going to look into it a bit deeper.
Thanks for sharing your demo!


Hi All,

Here a small demo of the Polygogo module from E-RM.

Nothing fancy really, just a little demo to discover a bit the weird sounds from Polygogo :-)

Modulation done by Vermona - fourMulator (quad LFO), "filtered" by Instruo - Tràigh and internal Eurorack effect by ACL - VC Dual Delay (just a bit) and added a little touch of external reverb and delay to it as well. That's practically it. Thank you very much for listening and kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Forgotten to mention the filter that had been mildly used.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


hello, thank you all for the kind replies!
I'm thinking about adding a complex oscillator like the void modular one. I also stumbled upon the joranalogue generate 3 and the 4ms ensemble oscillator. what do you think about those two?

I tried to build a rack around the 4ms ensemble oscillator: ModularGrid Rack
I've never had a bigger system like the one I posted above. therefore, I'm not sure if the one I build has everything I will need.

again, thanks for your help!


Hi Charles,

You are welcome!

I only have seen the Eurorack version of this Portal Drum module, no stand-alone version or something like that, at least not seen at the Superbooth. Yes, take it easy with an expensive decision like this. Once the module gets released and you have an opportunity to test it locally at your local dealer then try to do that first before you decide.

Sounds like they indeed still have this chip shortage issue, that I managed about, since the release is still in the distant future.

Please let us know if you decide to buy it or better make a demo jam out of it if you got that module. I am curious how you will use it :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


you leave the studio????

-- JimHowell1970

Hi Broken-Form,

How about using an Audio Interface module to "solve" the problem or at least to make your audio output life easier?

I am using a PreSonus StudioLive Series III mixer and I have no issues, great sound.

Let's hope this is not the case but check it: In case you provided a far too "hot" signal to your mixer, worst case your input channels might have been burned up into smoke, try another input channel (not used for Eurorack before yet) and make sure you start with a very low output signal (start with zero) and then increase it slowly to something reasonable. Please do keep in mind that Eurorack signal -10 V to +10 V is too hot for audio/external mixers (max about -2 V to +2 V). One would expect that input channels have some kind of overload protection but don't count too much on it either.

Please let us know once you get something out of your external mixer.

Hence my advice to go for an audio interface module, less worries about DC components in your signal too! :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads


Hi Garfield,

Thank you so much for the informative and detailed report. And a second big thanks for taking the time to look at the module. I had seen videos of Rabid Elephant showing a prototype at Superbooth 2019 and it seemed like this was going to be something of interest for me, especially because at that time they were talking about releasing it as a stand-alone as well as a eurorack module. Seems like they scrapped the stand-alone (too bad because that is what I would have preferred) and are just going with the module.

I received an email from Rabid Elephant yesterday stating that preorders are open but it seems like the release is still in the distant future. Not sure if I will jump on it but time will tell.

I have their Natural Gate module and I think it is fantastic. It can really deliver a cool vibe.

All the best,
Charles


The amount of informations and knowledge that I can gain here are amazing, thanks guys. Although, I must say, I still have some really basic questions. Like for example - How can I utilize Rings, Plaits in Stereo mode, and both at the same time? Right now, one of them can go through Black Hole DSP and it's in stereo. But when I put them all through Veils, then I lose the stereo. I'm beginning to lose my mind or it has been a very busy day :)

I'm using my modules mostly as an addition to my DAW and game, film related scores. And I can see that I made some big mistakes here. Like.... Why the hell did I buy Erica's Black Mixer. If I got Veils, why do I even need it? Should I just sell it and buy a mixer with which I could patch my reverb as a send and then I could patch my stereo modules too? Also, as Lugia suggested - Expert Sleepers must be a much better solution, than 4ms I/O.

Back to what I have now (also, I think I'm gonna sell Rackbrute and move to Mantis) -
ModularGrid Rack

Please help on what should I put there next. I managed to find Kinks (although not sure what I can with it yet)! I'll buy Links too.
Studying Maths a lot, it's so much fun. But still - I feel so lost. OMG.

Sweelinck - thanks so much. That Stochastic Inspiration Generator sounds great. Adding to my future buy list ;)


Thanks guys will try the methods you posted,when im back in the studio

-- Broken-Form

you leave the studio????

-- JimHowell1970

my studio is in my appartment,but my fiancee gets mad if she dont see me sometimes:))))

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Got a Mantis Case for sale,PM Me


I've got the SEM, Wasp and the Moog style ladder filter - plus the LPG - all great value for money!!!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks guys will try the methods you posted,when im back in the studio

-- Broken-Form

you leave the studio????

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks guys will try the methods you posted,when im back in the studio

btw this is my rack

ModularGrid Rack

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Got a Mantis Case for sale,PM Me


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I am saving up for Knobcom next year and maybe Superbooth if covid restrictions and vaxx mandates go away.


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I still have the Doepfer SEM filter that came with my A100 Basic system and it sounds good.


I think Lugia's recommendation is great. You're getting two analog oscillators for $250. Being able to sync your oscillators is nice for that lead synth sound among others. Dual oscillators also allow for that "fat" sound via detuning or stacking at octaves, 5ths, etc.

Each VCO can also operate at LFO speeds so you'll have lots of options. Now I'm thinking about it.


doepfer - all of them - reasonably priced and do what they say on the tin (mostly) and a reasonable amount of voltage control

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tbh the vca or attenuator is unnecessary - connectnig vco directly to mixer will work too - just make sure the level on the mixer is low and bring it up to monitor

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Rossum filters are great. I have lineaus and evolution. Morgasmatron is also badass. Lineaus and Morgasmatron have changed

Hell yeah! I love my Rossum Morpheus filter so unique and lots of tone shaping options. Also love IME/Harvestman Bionic Lester so many shaping options. Erica Synths filters are great fun for self oscillation purposes and gritty tones.

Now I'd like to get my hands on the XAOC Devices Belgrad filter as well as Intellijel Morgasmatron and Mannequin Three Sisters.

Filters are loads of fun in eurorack land.


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Connect a VCO to a VCA. Then try sending an output from your VCA to the mixer and see if sound can be generated.


skip the in rack mixer for now to reduce complexity (I'm assuming that you can get audio out of this)
go from vco to attenuator (you do have attenuators, don't you?) and from there via a 3.5mm -> 6.5mm cable into one of the channels on the mixer? can you now hear audio on either speakers connected directly to the mixer or via headphones?

I'm also assuming you can get other audio out of the mixer when you plug other sound sources into it...

if assumptions are wrong - let us know!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

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good news then - have fun!!!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

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Hey all...just wanted to let you know that I had reached out to the ModWiggler Disting EX page and sure enough, Mr. Ostler was very quick to respond with a suggested fix which worked perfectly. Was able to update my firmware to 1.9 and now the "V" knob backs out of menus.

In my case a very gentle lever/pry under the knob cab slightly lifted the cap into position (there was a definitive 'slip' upward as I gently lifted it to where you could tell it almost snapped into place).

Very impressed with his responsiveness to my issue...and VERY excited to begin digging in to the Disting EX :)

JB


i got a presonus studiolive 1602 mixer i would like to connect my eurorack to it.
https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2

in my eurorack i have a bloodcells audio D.O.MIXX mixer module
https://bloodcellsaudio.com/products/domixx

but i cant get any sound no matter what i try??

my end goal was to record the eurorack into Reaper

any help is appreciated

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Hey, there's a troublesome seller - @tommiedj
I transferred him money for Intellijel Steppy on Sep. 16, and he stopped answering my messages.
He has several modules on sale, all recent (which now I see suspicious). It looks legit because of the good votes from other users, some of them registered as users long time ago, but now I see they have crossed positive votes between them. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/173328 Also suspicious is that several have recently added modules on sale.

Unfortunately I cannot vote the other users since I have not contacted them, but I suppose they are all frauds: @Kaneda87 @wrongdisplay @asdfqwer @dosko64 @DirkB @wolvero @tokkeherfst @pikseliahky (and a lot more since these users have their own positive votes)

The paypal account I sent the money to is ***@gmail.com
Tried to contact him, no success.

Be careful with this guy. It seems I got ripped off :/

Edit: yesterday I got my money returned from him and an apology.


Emilie is super quick on the mutable forum too!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Os was here yesterday!!!
-- JimHowell1970

Ha! So he was. Just saw that thread. He seems to be the most responsive and active designer/builder in the industry. I applaud that wholeheartedly.


muffwiggler is now modwiggler

apparently some people took offence at 'muffwiggler'

which just proves that some people have no sense of humour!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Os was here yesterday!!!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


I believe Os from Expert Sleepers is very responsive to customer concerns. I know he is active on the Mod Wiggler forum. You should probably try to reach out to him for some guidance.


Thanks for the reply’s! I really appreciate it and agree fully! I also have two happy ending cases and a dfam and mother combo. This is def a focused live oriented case to jam bass lines and weird sequences over my digitakt and with my ableton live live set as well as general sound design to sample in my productions. Sometimes it’s nice to try and contain the endless possibilities that is modular. As far as the ornament and crimes, good call been thinking about one for awhile may indeed pull the trigger on that one :). And yea I’ve seen rickys stuff and am a fan but I’m also a fan of noise engineering and already had the modules :) Thanks again for the advice!