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Well if you think you need more modulation then sure go ahead. That's partly what's so great about the Batumi.
I wouldn't really compare the Batumi with Peaks. Heh one might really get the idea that you don't exatly know what you're looking for but hey you nonetheless got my full support there haha~~
yes unless you need that 808-style kick and snare generator that the peaks has ... batumi cant do kicks ;)
as always the right answer is: the module that does the job you need done best.
if you dont know what job you'll need a new module for, then you dont need a new module =)
Initiated the conversation just 3 days ago or so. Had the module shipped by the next day, arrived today in perfect condition. He sent a video of the module in action, communicated throughout the whole process, and in general was great to work with
Ahh I see what you mean!! I was unclear in what I mean. I want to make a rack on here - Modular Grid - look like a KB37 I have a kb37 I don't want to make an imitation of it.
The sound you hear is that which you are listening for
I bought a Turing Machine MK2 plus the Pulses and Volts expanders from @granville. He promptly shipped the modules which were carefully packaged and were in perfect condition. Very reliable!
To get this width you would need to buy 1m rails and cut them to measure. Otherwise, you can get a Make Noise powered skiff and fit a spacers on the sides and have a bit more than the nominal 104HP.
Otherwise, if the keyboard is a must for your requirements, look at the WMD Monolith.
More modulation sources for sure. The quad ADSR is great, but you've got a lot of audio sources that will greatly benefit from modulation. Also, you've got a lot of clock/logic signals, but I'm not seeing many modules that benefit from clocks. A sequencer, turing machine, clocked random source, or clocked LFOs would take great advantage of all those clocks.
from what i can see here, everybody is doing good trades. nah, i don't believe there are rogue traders in this community. peoples faith is the real currency traded in these modular transactions right? what effect does a rogue trader, if there is one and i'm not saying there is, have on the community as a whole or your supporting the community by buying and selling kit ? how many wigglers use friends and family to pay for kit, taking a leap of faith with the wiggler in the community selling stuff they don't want anymore.
-- joncharliefeathers
I usually ask for MW account or some other credible enough resource, easy to double check there and see what kind of stuff that person is posting, I've done dozens of buys here and no problems so far
Big thanks to @Virgil for a beautiful build of the Ornament & Crime module. Quick shipping and good communication. Will definitely consider trading again.
looks solid, maybe add some more mixer/vca for all those voices to be able to modulate/mix them better.
also, passive mults waste hp in my opinion, just get stackcables or "fly" your passive mults between the cables =)
Its my handmade case for my second voice to use thru micro brute, gives me a massive agressive bass, the atom koe vco drift a lot but that fact increases the harmonics mixed with micro brute vco, and i added a simple delay sounds great.
Its my mixer rack into a moog 104hp case, to use with not just with my main rack but also with my volcas, monotribes, po-12 or my dual ns soundmachines and some pedals too.
Thanks for your input! I've switched the Uscale2 with the first edition and added a double multiplier.
The SQ-1 is an external device and I really want to keep the system as simple as possible, e.i. just the rack and a mixer.
For example the Soundcraft EF12 is an analogue mixer with Lexicon effects and 12 mono inputs, which should be enough to create a coherent, musical, mix. So I actually don't even really need the delay module, but I'll leave it in for now.
This drum rack is going to be a unit in a bigger system which may have dedicated line-outs for each voice, with a maximum of 12 voices, but I'm still not sure if that's feasable or necessary.
At least now I have a proper starting point. If you have any tips or suggestions, I'm all ears!
that first rack totally is fine and easily functional with something like a SQ-1 for the VCO work!
mixing on a small mixer is easy enough Ive had fun doing the same on an old BX-8, a CR-1604 also a few others. can be hard to get the gain down enough to not always have distorted drums sometimes.
Rows 1 & 2 are my current system, and rows 3 & 4 are going to be a mix of Intellijel 1U (row 3) and Erthenvar/Pulp Logic (row 4)
-- DJMaytag
Hey just a heads up, not sure if you know this or not, but the Intellijel 1U modules only fit in Intellijel racks (they're slightly smaller then everyone else's 1U modules).
-- Osten
Yes, I am aware of this. I was going to use two different brackets, a 1U Intellijel bracket for row 3, and a 1U Erthenvar/PulpLogic bracket for row 4. I'll probably have to DIY a bracket for the Intellijel row, since no one currently sells an individual 1U bracket for Intellijel sized modules.
I think a Beatstep Pro would be a good addition for sequencing everything and melodies, you probably already know the O-Coast has midi and cool midi functionalities.
Rows 1 & 2 are my current system, and rows 3 & 4 are going to be a mix of Intellijel 1U (row 3) and Erthenvar/Pulp Logic (row 4)
-- DJMaytag
Hey just a heads up, not sure if you know this or not, but the Intellijel 1U modules only fit in Intellijel racks (they're slightly smaller then everyone else's 1U modules).
I totally agree on using the best tools for the job and that I am also limiting myself but I feel I should explain more in-depth of what this rack is. This rack was designed with three goals in mind: portability, playability and minimal computer interaction. The main idea behind this rack is using audio as the oscillator and everything else is used to modulate, transform, time stretch. sequence and organize that audio in real time. A live hip hop modular dj system so to speak. I could just use a computer, MPC, drum machine, turntable but what I really like about modular is the unpredictability and being able to modulate everything, even the clock.
I've added the Intellijel Uscale to controle the VCO and a multiplier for good measure. The delay isn't strictly necessary because of the mixer's onboard effects, so that would give me another 4HP for something I might have overlooked.
I don't need MIDI because I want to move away from laptops/software. The idea is to separate every audiostream from eachother as much as possible and patch those into an analogue 16-channel mixer and have a palet of sound available to me to mix into something coherent.
Mixing, attenuation and effects would all be done on the mixer, which means that I need to keep the signal flow as tight as possible: the smallest package that will give me the most flexibility.
It's but a concept though. Can you think of any reason this is a silly idea?
since i have room for it i'll start with an 9U 126HP Synthrack Case to not have to think about space for a long time and dont get that "i want to fill that hole" itch, i just want to focus on exploring the modules and make music.
i'm researching since a few weeks where i should start, here is my draft of Stage 1:
my main workflow atm is around cubase and i like to sequence my standalone boxes (minitaur, dx200, xoxbox) with midi out of an NI maschine vst which runs in cubase, so i have a nice controller on my desk which i can play live ;)
with yarns, the modular should connect to my momentary workflow.
since i can do a lot of the standard substractive sounds good enough with serum on my computer, i want to focus on more experimental stuff and things i cant do with cubase+vst synths.
to the main questions:
- is this a good starter rig?
- have i thought of everything? (enough attenuators, vca's, something else?)
to forecast some direction:
if i have explored the rubicon/dixie combo well enough and have spent my time discovering what i can do with the rampage i think about exploring rene, rings and sisters in Stage 2 as well as adding a nice random source and a quantizer:
somewhere down the line i really want a morphagene but i dont want to have it sitting alone and doing nothing, it needs friends to play with first =)
PS: if you click on my name you can see a totally crazy "stage3" that i wont be able to afford in forever and will change for sure before i will get to it. just if you are curious in which direction my personal interests have taken the researching-trip so far. maybe you have nice ideas and inspirations for me to research? you know crazy modules that i maybe havent thought about? please tell me ;D
noob here, can one buy those black/golden versions of the makenoise modules in the normal stores or do i have to be in some special vip lodge that wears funny hats to get one of those?
i am such in love with makenoise stuff my first ever rack will be mostly modules from them ;P
where would that control voltage to drive the pitch of that vco come from?
u sure you have enough cv to drive modulations? (+ attenuators to be able to dial it in?)
you sure you never want to sequence your drums with midi?
if i would build a drumrack i would do it something like this:
I intend to mix this through a mixer. Each 'voice' goes into its own channel. I'm still pondering whether to get a dedicated line-out but as it seems running a cable (3.5mm to 1/4 jack) from each module to the mixer should work fine.
can I please get your valued opinion on this configuration; it's basically a change and extension (3rd row) to my present B&G system, just wondering what opinions are and am happy to hear your suggestions.
The idea is to get as much punch and groove out of a small box. Obviously kick/snare/clap and hats, but also looking to get sub and bass out of it with Trigger Riot as its beating heart.
You can find this rack as 'Noisy Thing Inverted' under user name 'SunPulse'
After a great deal of watching YouTube videos and reading reviews I decided on the Pittsburgh Modular SV-1 as a really good starting point for a Eurorack Modular. It has really good reviews and is quite cost effective for what you are getting. But I wanted to expand a bit on the SV-1 to get it more in line with what I would like. But I also had to be very cost-conscious in selecting what I was going to buy. I live in Canada and the Canadian dollar is low, about 78 cents per dollar $US. Ouch!
Compounding my selection choices is I live in Alberta, and the only Canadian stores where you can really walk in and check stuff out are in Vancouver, Toronto & Montreal. So all my decisions had to be made by surfing on-line. Awkward, but do-able.
What I didn't want were modern modules that were stuck in 1972. (Ahem: Roland) I wanted to explore sounds with designers that were more creative than that, but I still had to watch the budget.
In the end, I decided to go with Intellijel and WMD/SSF as they are doing creative work, are affordable, and the quality appears to be there. As a bonus, Intellijel is Canadian and I could buy direct from them. (BTW: Danjel van Tijn is very awesome in responding to questions and inquiries, he really came through for me with a problem I had. I will definitely buy from Intellijel again.)
The case is the Intellijel 4u X 84HP powered case. Intellijel puts a 1u space in full-width, and they make 1u modules. Great place to put some utility modules that would otherwise take up the 3u rack space. Into the 1u space I put (2) buffered multiples, and (2) Quadratt modules. The Quadratt modules are very versatile, you can use them as a 4-channel mixer, attenuators, attenuverters, and as DC voltage sources. Very useful for mixing CV voltages and sounds for the Pittsburgh SV-1. Also very useful when for the sends and receives to guitar pedals you want to incorporate into the modular.
I wanted one extra VCO, and this was a tough choice. In the end I picked the WMD/SSF Spectrum VCO, the Intellijel Dixie II+ was a very-very close second to the Spectrum. I do have a small scaling difference as I go up the keyboard between the Spectrum & the Pittsburgh SV-1 though. I don't know which one is the issue. I'm going to set up a clean sine-wave patch on my Roland XP-80, and use that as a guide for adjusting the VCO scalings. It could be that they are both off, I don't know yet.
I also wanted a 4-Pole VCF to compliment the State-Variable Filter that is in the SV-1. My choice here was the WMD/SSF Pole Zero. As a bonus it has a built in VCA and a saturation control. Sweet! Sounds nice too.
So the Pittsburgh SV-1 only has one Envelope Generator. It is an ADSR with a nice snap to it, so that's good. But only one ADSR was the first thing I wanted to fix. The Intellijel Dual ADSR is what I picked. You get 2 ADSRs with versatility. They have inverted outputs, are cyclable, and the ADR times are selectable up to a 60-second range (selection switch gives you 3 ranges, very nice when you are dealing with short sliders).
To add versatility to the VCOs, I picked the Intellijel uFold II waveshaper. I am really impressed with this module. If you watch reviews they usually only demonstrate it modifying a sine-wave. But it does awesome variations on all the waveforms I fed into it except for noise. And it is very musical at the same time, I would not want to lose this module.
That just left a keyboard choice, which is the Arturia KeyStep. I hadn't even considered this until I went into Long & McQuade looking for a 37-note keyboard and they showed me the KeyStep. Very nice with a built in 64-step sequencer and arpeggiator. The size matches up nicely with the 84HP case as well.
Overall I am very pleased with how this turned out, especially as how I had to make all my choices by surfing. Now if I would only stop looking at more stuff.