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Is the build for Batumi really open source? I'm inclined to say false.

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Batumi is absolutely NOT open source. This is intellectual property theft.
-- Sedalus

That’s what I thought. Can't believe these clowns.

Is the build for Batumi really open source? I'm inclined to say false.

Support Xaoc.
Support working class electronics.
-- dohma

Batumi is absolutely NOT open source. This is intellectual property theft.

Two thoughts.

1) You have a lot of nice modules here, and I wouldn't necessarily drop anything that you already have. But I would say that you're missing the architecture necessary to actually use a lot of the modules: utilities. You should be thinking about how to actually get signals to the modules and how you'll morph the signals along the way. For example, you have Batumi for LFOs. Awesome choice, but how are you gonna tame the signal without wasting Maths? Maybe an attenuator (or better yet, attenuverter) or two would help. Or, of course, you could have more VCAs. A sample and hold or track and hold might be worth considering for turning those random voltages into step sequences. A quantizer would be cool, too. What if you want to route a signal to multiple locations? Buffered mults will allow that without any drop in voltage. I particularly like the Doepfer Switched Multiples and Sequential switch for these purposes. There are many utilities that will allow you to mangle, tame, move, or manipulate the signal; don't forget about them! Maybe check out a multi-function tool or VCV rack to get a sense of which utilities you'll need.

2) How are you connecting to the outside world? Are you working with a computer or DAW, or just the standalone modular synth?

Best of luck!

Is the build for Batumi really open source? I'm inclined to say false.

Support Xaoc.
Support working class electronics.

what do you think i need more?

Scumbag stuff.

Support XAOC. Ignore Behringer.
If you can't, buy used.

Hi all,

As a fun challenge, I wanted to see if I could build a semi-generative system in small rack. So, using a Rackbrute 6U and modules I already own, I present the results. I explain my thinking below. But what about you? What's the tightest/most complete instrument you could build in a Rackbrute using only modules you already own? Any style, but please explain your rack.

So, here's my thinking:
Row 1: power, clocking, routing/mults, uO_C, voices, envelopes, VCAs
Row 2: modulators, gates, s/h, routing, triggers, VCA, effects, and end of chain processing.

Pam's runs the show with the master clock, with some utilitarian architecture afterwards to get the signals around. My main modulators are Batumi and Ochd, but there are other LFOs and modulators around, as well. Random gates, triggers, and sequences can come from several sources: uO_C, Pam's, or a combo of utilities. These get quantized by uO_C, which then feeds Plaits and Rings. Zadar helps shape it all alongside Veils. Then, the signals make their way to the end of the chain with some effects and sound shaping along the way. Finally, to cheat, there is the ES-9, making the exercise kind of irrelevant, but fun nonetheless.

So, let's see your racks.

EDITED May 16th 2023, 19:53

So - looks like Behringer duplicated the Xaoc Batuni and added the functions switches from the Xaoc Poti expander.

I think class 10 sd cards are not supported. I've tried with two separate ones. The same files work on class 4...
Anyone noticed the same issue? Or I am doing something wrong?
-- MaxeMitch

Actually, it doesn't seem to depend on class. but some cards I just can't seem to get to be recognised. I tried reformatting them in every possible way. Does anyone know another trick, or an idea what the issue could be?

Predatory company ripping off small businesses without adding any value. If you care about the euro community avoid this.
-- DonKartofflo

I certainly do not care about the "community" WRT consumers. Bunch of self-righteous, narcissistic whiners for the most part.

But why would I buy this when I've already got a Maths, complete with 5-6 failing, glitchy trimmers that render mine almost unusable without paying for replacements? (A fancy rubberized knob on a chintzy, wobbly trimmer is still just that, folks. And that's all MN uses IME).

EDITED May 16th 2023, 16:25

is there an interest in having a subtab for standard factory built and/or diy cases? i do, eurorack at the least;
with factory built i mean the likes of the pods, palettes, mantis, befaco's, etc. and also the known case builders à la case from lake, too many cases, Damaru, etc. i think there could be a second hand market for these items as well

According to the manual the output gate level for the SQ-64 can be set to 5v or 10v, so if it's currently at 5v I would give 10v a try. Also if you haven't already confirmed that your SD808 can be triggered by some other source I would do that just to make sure it's working.

yes, but can it run DOOM?

Another lovely track! I'm glad I subscribed to this thread. :-) Is the guitar all pre-recorded and coming from the Bitbox? Cheers!

Hi,

It's not triggered by the gate output of the sq64 in the gate in of the tiptop module.

Thanks

possibly vapourware...

Earlier this module (Behringer 2600-VCO) was on this site, but now I cant find. What happened? Any suggestion? Thanks!

New video of my space ambient composition for eurorack modular synthesizer and electric guitar.
This sketch became the basis of the track from the new album of my band: https://gamardahfungus.bandcamp.com

No sequences. Xaoc Zadar and Mutable Peaks modulating VCA’s, Plaits and Beads in vco mode.
1010Music Bitbox plays a previously recorded guitar part.
Better to listen with headphones. More explanations below the video on YouTube.
Have a nice listen!

A very unique addition to the filter arsenal.

Nothing but awesome so far, 30 minutes in.

I think what Sweelinck is trying to say is that the majority of users on here use English as the language of communication... even if it's not their 1st language... it's the most used language in the world once you add in 2nd/3rd/4th/etc language speakers...

if you want others to help or discuss things with you then English is the language to use... even if it is just google translated... and pasted after your original Spanish - although I would go for English 1st (as that's what shows up in the topics list)

don't expect any replies in Spanish, but it's not being disrespectful... it's just trying to be more useful to more people...

remember the old Mutable forums... Emilie specifically stated "use English" - even though she was French - why? for this very reason!

if you don't want help or discussion about your racks, then it's easy enough to keep your racks private...

I am French. I have a deep love for French culture and language.
But I try to translate my posts into English as a courtesy to others.
-- Sweelinck

This user has been using public forums as his personal comment section for about a year, I don't think courtesy or even just interest to contribute to a community has ever been part of that user's strategy on this website and the absence of reactions from other users until now certainly didn't help in teaching them what's what...

EDITED May 15th 2023, 16:38

I probably wouldn't like to do live mixing with those sliders as I do with the 531, but have often though I'd like a second 531. This could be a nice alternative to use as a submixer for the price.

Have you checked out Error Instruments? I've got his Tele Blender (red version) and I'm still trying to figure out what it is supposed to be precisely.

A 4 LFO module from NOH Modular. Actually 8, since each LFO set outputs a triangle and a square wave (why no sine?) at the same time. Also, you can mix two LFOs together, creating interesting waveforms, and their’s a DAC to sum out on/off signals based on the edge state of the 4 LFOs.

Simple build, all SMD already installed. Would be a good first build.

Build

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I am French. I have a deep love for French culture and language.
But I try to translate my posts into English as a courtesy to others.
-- Sweelinck
Hi, it's Spanish, but well, courtesy also applies to Spanish people...hehe

I am French. I have a deep love for French culture and language.
But I try to translate my posts into English as a courtesy to others.

Copied from YT description
I recently got @PnPModular to build me a Non-Linearcircuits @cirtcele Sloths, so I have this modulating the @paultasbeeb Indian Resonator. The Crackly noise is coming via noise fed to a VCA to lower the aplitude to the point where it turns into crackle, this crackle is fed into the @addacsystem6002 VCT-Networks 104 (I own 2x T-networks, the other non-CV is on more percussion duties), everything goes into the @AISynthesis Matrix Mixer before heading into either Monsoon Clouds (Reverb) or MakeNoise Mimeophon subtly tweaked by Sloths too.
There is a little bit of Sample action from the Radio Music Installed Prok Drum module too.

transferxl tends to work well for me

la dfam iría por fuera de la case, en su propia case

el resto falta por organizarlo

uno de los mixer doepfer, podría ser sustituido por pico mix (y así no lo he de sacar de la case tekno, para ponerlo en la case laberinttto)

Los 55 hp que sobran arriba a la derecha, van destinados (muy justitos) para kinematic y zoom ms70, que irían dentro de la case.

KINEMATIC (30 hp de lado) iría dentro de la case
la circuit envía uno de sus canales, y coseguimos punch en el bombo

quizas ZOOM MS70 (24 hp, con unos cables acodados)
dentro de la case
un patch: "noise gate"

LA VOZ: micro --> pico input1 --> zoom --> mixer doepfer

FILTRO: la salida fx de mixer doepfer va para aquí. Pasamos DX y SH. Sale directamente para circuit

DFAM: con bajo volumen (mediante no subir mucho los volumenes de los steps) sale para fx aid --> doepfer mixer --> salida clean

MALEKKO:
- lfo para dfam (moviendo osc1 pitch)
-lfo para filtro
-trig para dfam
-trig ??

MIXER DOEPFER:
-voz (que sale clean)
-dfam (que sale clean)
-SH (que sale mezclada clean + fx (filtro))
-DX (que sale mezclada clean + fx (filtro))
Salida clean --> circuit
Salida fx (filtro) --> pico input2 --> filtro --> circuit (para un poco de reverb)

SH: en la case

DX: fuera de la case

CIRCUIT:
sus percs: bombo, caja, plato y 2 opciones en directo: a) semicorcheas b) sonidos radio
(en directo voy cambiando el compas de esta pista)

EDITED May 14th 2023, 16:24

Yes it worked for me. Not sure how i could send it to you, theres probably lots of upload spaces, i currently am not up to date about that. You could pm me if you have an idea how i could send it.

EDITED May 14th 2023, 10:25

Wow... Nice headphones. Planar tech is neat stuff. May have to find a vendor locally just to give them a listen. Big thanks everyone!

If I understand what you mean by 'opinionated design', Data Bender seems to fit. It is a module that can be very soft or very hard, but its opinions are always very personal :)

I could send them to you even if they are. 120 MB zip file. Got them the same way.
They can be played in a standard TipTop One but seem to be somehow protected so you can't play them anywhere else at least i have not found out how.
For that reason they have not been of much use to me, hoped i could load them into some sample drum machine or DAW.
-- znort101
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Hey. Thanks for your answer. I would appreciate it, really. And yes what you mentioned is kind of sad. Must be a similar scheme that protects samples from Ableton packs to be used anywhere else
But has it actually been tested that they work with the standard ONE from Tiptop?
A look into the ONE manual which features a section about the TG edition.

TG ONE features a custom firmware designed to work closely with the sounds on the two
included cards. Tiptop Audio worked with Chris Carter to create options that enhance the
Throbbing Gristle aesthetic.

Thanks again. S.

EDITED May 14th 2023, 09:11

I could send them to you even if they are. 120 MB zip file. Got them the same way.
They can be played in a standard TipTop One but seem to be somehow protected so you can't play them anywhere else at least i have not found out how.
For that reason they have not been of much use to me, hoped i could load them into some sample drum machine or DAW.

EDITED May 14th 2023, 08:17

Would it be possible to add "display prices in £" and to show dates in the format "day/month/year" for UK users?
It's not a big issue so if it can't be implemented, no problem. It's just something I personally wish I could do.
Thanks.

I wondering if the sounds provided with those are under a kind of copyright control.
Otherwise it would just need a friendly owner who would provide them and we would be able to fire them up in the standard ONE or any other sampler...

For me, it's Nonlinear Circuits by a landslide. Many of Andrew's designs can be operated within a certain range to perform the way you'd expect, but are completely wild once you leave that territory. Sometimes, this is to the point that you might not even recognize what underlying principal or function they're based on. Some of his modules are tamer than others until you push them, but those seem to be far outnumbered by the absolutely buck wild ones.

EDITED May 13th 2023, 23:09

I started with a Beyerdynamic Lagoon that I got for my train commutes. It was pretty good cabled, far better than wireless. When it broke (crappy plastic construction) I looked at the typical Beyers for production. Very good cans. But I happened to audition an Audeze LCD-2 closed back and fell completely in love. It's big, heavy, comes with a crazy big flight case and I don't care because it's extremely transparent and does incredibly accurate stereo imaging. It's less neutral than my monitor speakers so it's a good double validation.

Thanks for the feedback. I may have to look at AKG... Can test a few here locally which is pretty important. I don't have any experience with them. Not my favorite flavor... But, I have a soft spot for Sony dj cans... A bit bright with a boomy low-end if memory serves... But the memories... And their great design. I also see a lot of relative new comers to the game... Any other suggestions?

Wow thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my post.

No problem!

part of me thinks I should start very small so that I can learn my modules and figure out what I need

Yes and no. Yes - start with a small number of modules that will work together to give you a chance to learn how they interact. No - don't use a small starter case. Really, you'll be kicking yourself in a year (or sooner) if you start with a tiny case.

One other option I forgot to mention is that you'll get a lot of bang for your buck with a multi-utility or multi-function tool like Maths (worth the hp for all the versatility it brings), uOrnament and Crime, or Disting EX. The last two are a little menu-divey, but either will give you access to a large number of utilities and will allow you to figure out which ones you actually use.

Good luck!

AKG K371. I love them. I had seen some good reviews and found a fair deal on them. I needed something to replace a well worn pair of Sennheiser HD280 that I was accustomed to for years. The AKGs are so much more accurate. I'll probably stick with them going forward.

Sony MDR-7506 headphones are my primary headphones when recording and checking mixes, but I also use a cheap pair of Creative HQ-1450 headphones as well, the idea being that they're closer to what the average person is likely to be listening on.

Nice setup. Lots of wiggling opportunities here... With on the fly field recordings... I imagine it becomes pretty awesome. Enjoy the trip.

Wow thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my post. For some musical background I was a vinyl turntablist for many years. i moved to a new space and didn't have room for my equipment for many years, now I have room again. I am just happy to be on the path of making music again. One of my friends has a modular setup and it really caught my interest. I am aware that easier more efficient ways to make hip hop are out there. I just am super excited to learn something new and different. I am fairly committed to going down the modular path.

So it sounds like I was a bit filter heavy for the HP. The case is filling up fast. I might need to do a slightly larger case for the long run. Maybe a 9u 84hp or even 104hp. My goal is to have a system that I can take with my and play my music. I have my eye on a case from Case from Lake.

I took some of your suggestions and did an updated case

part of me thinks I should start very small so that I can learn my modules and figure out what I need
something like this

I think in the long run having Morphagene or one of the competitors makes a lot of sense to me.

I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

EDITED May 12th 2023, 22:28

Just curious. I've always been a big fan of sennheiser (crisp mids, solid lows, little fatigue on long sessions.. For me at least) and prefer over the ear cans... Although recently I've been using some pretty respectable pods... But... What are you using and why?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modulaire-maritime-victor-alpha-2 (recommended) is my output so... Bluetooth works as well.

Hey, good luck with the journey. It's fun, and the rabbit hole of searching for interesting modules is addictive.

Out of curiosity, how are you planning to use modular in your music? If you just want to build a sequence and have drums, it's way cheaper to go the route of drum machines and sequencers. Sound mangling is cool, but again, probably cheaper off rack. Of course they can't do what modular does, but you could buy a lot of instruments for the price of a full rack that can do many of the same functions as modular.

That out of the way, two things jump out at me about your racks:

1) VCOs and VCFs combine for 56 hp of space for just two independent voices. That's a whole lot of real estate for a case that's only 104hp. As cool as those oscillators are, maybe find smaller versions, or dual oscillators or filters? If you like Instruo, their Ts-L has a voltage controlled wavefolder and is only 6hp. Klavis Twin Waves Mk II is huge sounding in 8 hp, and itself is a dual VCO. If you want to keep it analogue, Make Noise has STO. Shakmat Modular's Dual Dagger is a dual VCF in 6 hp. Right there you have 2 to 3 independent voices in 16-18 hp. That gives you a lot of space back to work with. Particularly, since you'll want to use it for....

2) Utilities. You need more utilities, in particular for clocking and triggering. Yes, you have a monster sequencer, but adding something like a Pam's would give you a lot more options and flexibility. Things like clock divider or multipliers will give you access to a lot more rhythmic options. Logic modules allow for more interesting combinations and trigger sequencers. I see you're planning on getting the Compare 2, which has some logic built in. Great module. Personally, I LOVE sample/track and hold, and they are super cool to use as modulators, and can be used to build melodies from the LFOs you have (which, you could also get more of).

Utilities are useful because they are just so damn versatile. For example, how about more attenuators or attenuverters to subtly affect signals, or even invert them? Or, another example of the utility of utilities, you could build a step sequencer with just a clock, a sequential switch and a matrix mixer, and suddenly with three utility modules you have a sequence. Add something that can quantize, and suddenly you have a melody you can control with a mixer, all from utilities and a clock. Routing is important too. Spreading that signal around with Link 2 is great (personally I love Joranalogue), but how about adding Doepfer's Switch Multiple that gives you mults and the ability to route signals. Joranalogue just announced a new routing module that looks sick, so maybe think about that, too.

Anyways, I'm sure someone with more experience can give you more focused advice specific to hip hop, but my general thoughts are stay away from big sound making modules, and stick close to the smaller, cheaper, utilities.

Good luck!

EDITED May 12th 2023, 19:44