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greetings -

this is my first rack. i'm experienced with synths and recording, but am wondering if I should roll w the case that fits perfectly, or opt for a little extra space. my GAS is bad but i think i have my basics covrred with these modules.

what am i missing?

Yeah, I have (using the audio in), see https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/11054

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 16:57

I hear that the Morphagene can be a bit noisy, a bit like the Mineophon which I have though it sort of depends on the settings whether the feedback develops into annoying noise.

I'm not denying your experience, that wasn't my intention at all. Nor was it my intention to tear you down. I'm not in any way suggesting that you're making anything up. My intention was simply to get you to think about potential issues with your studio and eurorack setup that you might have overlooked. Because a 40% module failure rate is NOT a typical experience. That's quite a lot to just ascribe to random chance. I provided my experience as a reference point, that's all. But thanks for calling me a vampire lol.

If you're going to post things like "Horrible module made by an awful company" on a public message board and then follow that up by saying how 40% of the modules in your system have failed, I don't know why you would expect that other people wouldn't post their relevant experiences with the same company for perspective. If you just wanted to go back and forth with DivKid then you should have DM'd him. The person being precious here is you.

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 14:44

Yes, it has been ringing some alarm bells for sure, and I have gone through the studio and made sure everything is top notch; that’s why I have written this post.
Sorry to hear about the dirt on your module dude but that feels like gaslighting to me.
As I mentioned before, these modules have all been housed in a clean, dedicated, professional studio with conditioned power and high quality cases. There is a bunch of other gear in there that is just as temperamental as any eurorack module and none of that gear has shown any issues. I have owned a dopfer system since 2005 or so, and it is still running just fine. These failures have occurred across 4 separate cases over the last, 3 years. Nothing changed in the studio except the addition of modern eurorack gear. And the modern eurorack hear is all that has failed.
At this point I have had 3 Instruo devices fail, and the one I fixed myself (Scion) had a faulty input jack. Definitely not my doing... Neither was it my fault when Maleknko Heavy Indusrties put the wrong vactrol in their Dual Borg. Also wasn't my fault when Mosaic gave me a quantizer that was DOA then replaced it with one that had major Firmware issues (At this point I have personally initiated 5 firmware updates). Was it just me getting upset over a “first world problem” when SSF gave me an Autodub module that didn't send audio, or whe when Afterlater audio sent a Steps where the EOB trigger doesn't work. When my Muta Jovis broke after only a few months of use, maybe it was simply because I'm to aggressive at muting stuff; is that the idea?
Just because I come here and state the issues I've had in eurorack doesn't give everyone a right to deny my experience and imply I'm responsible for dozens of failures. The only person that has been engaging to chat with on this form has been DIVKID, the one who designed the module in question.

I apologize for posting in your precious forum. I won't do it again.

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 15:04

"Companies tell me there is a 1% failure rate within the eurorack industry, however, the failure rate in my studio is almost 40%. No lie....."

If the failure rate in my studio was 40% or anything even remotely close to that, I would look into the possibility that there was an issue with my studio, just saying.....I have a fairly big system, and have turned over a fair number of modules while building it, but off the top of my head I can only recall having to make a video for a manufacturer once. I think the failure rate I've experienced might even be < 1%. This is across two different homes, as I've had to move once after my system was largely built. So if you're having to make videos all the time, that should ring some alarm bells.

Regarding Instruo in particular, I have a few of their modules, so far they've all worked fine. I remember them being slow to put out manuals for some of their stuff in their earlier days, but that's really the only negative thing I can think of to say.

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 13:02

I bought my ochd in 2021, and after unpacking it, I noticed an ugly stain on the encoder button that looks like dirt but couldn't be wiped off.

Schneidersladen offered to replace the ochd, but it seems to me that shipping it across Europe wouldn't justify this first-world problem. Therefore, I decided to keep it. As for its functionality, I've never had any issues. Everything has always worked perfectly, and I use it frequently.

Recently saw a clip of someone pinging a Moog Grandmother filter to create pretty decent kick drum sounds.

e.g. Gate -> ADSR -> VCF CV (Res on full) -> Audio Out

Got some good results with an A-140 (ADSR) into an A-106-5 (VCF), but not so good with an A-124 (only really works with the envelope going into the audio in - unconventional).

Anyone else had good results with different filter types before I buy a ton of filters to test...? (it will probably be Doepfer filters)

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 09:27

I have been using Ochd for 3 and a half years (January 2020, thanks to Jason/Signal Sounds), this little guy takes place in 60% of my patches. I use 2 Lfos outputs on average (so do I underuse it? ;) but I sometimes use up to 5 or 6 outs at the same time. A very ‘organic’ module as someone said... I confirm.
Ah, Ochd tells me to pass on to you that he is Batumi’s best friend.

(This was just for a modest reminder of the good reputation he deserves...)

Hey guys,

Pretty new to the modular world, I've been fiddling around with DFAM and 0-Coast for quiet some time now and I recently started to build a small eurorack.

I got my first 2 modules last week: Pamela's New Workout and Morphagene. It's fitted in and powered by this skiff: https://www.makenoisemusic.com/cases/skiff

Noticed instantly that I had some gnd noise problems, and I noticed a little sound that synced with the CV outs from the Pam's module. I'm using the module as a master clock for my whole setup of various gear. Mainly DFAM + LXR02 + 0-Coast

Here's a sound example with nothing playing and when i remove the CV to DFAM cable it kind of disapears, but not completely: https://on.soundcloud.com/Ds2BB

Anyone had this problem?

EDITED Jul 8th 2023, 01:26

Row A: Next Purchase
Row B: Interesting
Row C: Hyped
Row D: Preorders

I literally had loose nuts on the Ochd module I bought.
I've personally only had problems with 2 of my modules, a Second-hand Erica Pico DSP (mode button and/or LED flickers about but it still works), and my DIY build of a Robaux LL8 which occasionally fails to rejister a button press (still very usable).

Accidently uploaded one panel image we would like to delete. Is this possible?
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/flight-of-harmony-facehugger

fyi, there are 15 units of ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout for sale on ModularGrid.
Jokes aside, a year ago I started this modular thing and I bought some new modules and quite a few used modules, and I've only had two problems. With a used VCF with a very noisy potentiometer (normal for a used module) and a non-functioning audio jack on a new oscillator, by the way, the folks at Nanomodules were lovely and within 48 hours I had another module at home. I don't think it can be generalized with the level of incidence and the unfriendly nature of the manufacturers.
And I'm sorry, but I have to clarify your comment about @wishbonebrewery, he's not one of the "trolling" types. He is one of the people who contributes the most around here, and always tries to help.
Greetings and good luck.

i would also recommend Zadar and the Fx aid pro

There are 2 Ochd modules on modular grid for some reason. So I commented on them. I wasn't the one who created the second Ochd page. I just posted my experience. Not sure what you mean by all the forum spam. Divkid and I had a conversation about Ochd... otherwise I just posted good things abpuout a bunch of modules.
Making fun of the issues I've had with this module is just rude man.
No need to bash me just for stating my opinion. I don't dig your tone at all. Go troll someone else.🧟

Looks like a lot of fun :)

Maybe the 1 post about Ochd was actually enough, and whats with all the forum spam?
Post a Rack in 1 thread and then tell everyone about how you liked each module in one post.

I had some loose nuts on my Ochd, I tightened them, brilliant LFO module that has worked perfecty for me and is almost always part of my patching.

Yes that's a fair point; This is what I'm finding atm

The main clock as such starts at Marbles but then goes into Bastl Kompass so that's six different sources of randomness..

LFO's can come from Maths and the Buchla TT can go down to LFO rate. I can see how more would be beneficial

I like being able to patch separete modules to each effect but having something external to simple provide an overall reverb might be nice as this is generally what Z5000 is doing

Something I like doing is manually tuning VCO's against eachother to create dissonace so it's good to have a few voices

I would definitely want more modulation sources. Envelopes, LFOs, random/chaos, etc. Something like Zadar or Batumi would be a good addition to that hole you have in the top row. You could always add external effects to conserve space.
Have fun and good luck.

So to explain, I've been building this for a couple of years ago after I got sober. I guess I had to spend all that beer money on something :-)

I get lots of different results from up beat sequences to very dark atonal oscillations through to ambient self-generatives. Should I add another effect unit, or maybe some modulation? Let me know your thoughts

Ok cool >Thanks

Just copy and paste the URL.

First question. How do I attach an image of my rack? :-)

Poor build quality.
Mine broke within just a few months.
It's been no fun working with Instruo.
I'd suggest buying an different LFO.

I bought Befaco rampage from @blurredboy, the module is like new. All good.

I got the chance to test/try the cool ADDAC 107 - Acid Test

Maybey the best use of 2hp I've ever seen.
Sorry Pluck...

Get you some Nearness.
I have 2...

Just a switch.
I fucking love it!

Word!
Marbles is the Biz.
I like my Marbles with Abstract Data's Event Boss.
I think she would make an excellent companion to Stoppler Beats.
Suppose you're into swing, like Dilla style. GET MARBLES.
Endless love and respect for Mutable and her contributions to the modular world.
GET MARBLES.
MAKE BEATS.

Love my Leaves. Love my Trees.
PURPLE IS THE NEW BLACK!

Love my Leaves. Love my Trees.
PURPLE IS THE NEW BLACK!

Mystic is the shit! This VCA is brilliant.
PURPLE IS THE NEW BLACK!

Ana is suoer useful for all types of things. Did you know you can get some GREAT distrotion out of this thing?
All mystic Ciurcuits designs are top notch.
Purple is the new black.

One of the best filters ever made.

One of the best Oscillators ever made.

Really solid build. I feel its built a lot better than the 2hp Mix, which i have also owned.

Great dealay in 2hp.
I ended up free up sme space and went to look for a different delay but couldnt find one that fit and I liked better, even in 6hp. Amazing how this company pack in the utility.

EDITED Jul 6th 2023, 22:05

Amazing Filter!!!!!!
One of the best-sounding filters I have ever heard for aggressive sounds. It does a lot but really excels at the harsh and unexpected.

Love my Event Boss! Perfect pairing for marbles.

Yes, we have messaged several times. I have also emailed Jason several times about multiple issues. With Ochd he did replace the module, the other two I just had to walk away from.
There may have been some “loss in translation” with Instruo; however, through the multiple long emails, I believe we cleared everything up and agreed to disagree on his design and level of customer service. I feel he just plain didn't believe me about Scion. While he did offer to fix the module, this would have entailed me sending it over seas with no assurances of an actual fix. It was cheaper and easier to fix it myself. By the time Larachd broke I was over it and didn't even contact him.
Yes, it is hard for me to stomach your stating a %1 failure rate when I have a 35-40% rate of failure in my cases. I work in a clean and dedicated studio space; all power run-through conditioners and into proffesionally built cases. Maybe I live in a death hole for modules, maybe I'm just unlucky. No matter the reason I feel the general public needs to be warned about the extremely high failure rate I've witness from modern modules. My old dopfer system never had any problems in over a decade. Not sure what's changed.

Ah, this is ringing some bells. Did we speak a good while back? I remember discussing a lot of misfortune with not just Eurorack but some other gear too.

I understand wanting to move on from gear you've had a bad experiece from, things can certainly feel tainted after bad experiences.

I do think it's important to highlight that this is an extremely rare case both for ochd and for the wider format/industry in terms of failure rates. I know with lots of this piled on you likely won't want to hear this but it's absolutely not in line with anyone elses experience I know.

The failure rate on ochd is well below 1%, I'd have to double check figures but it's into multiple decimal points. Thousands of people are very happy with the module. For gear that I've bought I've experienced similarly very low failure rates all round, very low problems I wouldn't call a failure even too, back from buying my first pieces of gear pre Eurorack, into Eurorack and years later onto now.

Again, none of this is to deny or dispute your experience, just to be clear for everyones benefit.

As for Instruo, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some degree of "lost in translation" at play here. I've collaborated with Jason and the team for many years now and they are always professional and happy to help from my experience and others I've spoken to. However I will be passing this on for the benefit of everyone and to discuss further. Is your username here enough to trace back any contact?

All the best and I hope you have a better experience of music making with your gear ahead.

I have both Muta Jovis and Mutes,
Both will cause pitch droop. I purchased a WMD SL3kt to get around this.
My Muta Jovis has malfunctioned on me once, but the people at NE replaced it. Still a bummer, and I don't feel the Jovis is built very well.
I love my Mutes. It is built using vactrols for click-free switching. There is a nice decay of whatever signal that running through it that can add interest to the modulation, or a nice roll-off to audio. Mutes also has both momentary and latched behavior and the switches are high quality.
Both have inputs that are are normalized to the outputs below for multing signals.
Mutes is far superior in my opinion.

EDITED Jul 6th 2023, 18:01

I have both.
Both will cause pitch droop. I purchased a WMD SL3kt to get around this.
My Muta Jovis has malfunctioned on me once, but the people at NE replaced it. Still a bummer, and I don't feel the Jovis is built very well.
I love my Mutes. It is built using vactrols for click-free switching. There is a nice decay of whatever signal that running through it that can add interest to the modulation, or a nice roll-off to audio. Mutes also has both momentary and latched behavior and the switches are high quality.
Both have inputs that are are normalized to the outputs below for multing signals.
Mutes is far superior in my opinion.

This module failed on me. Also I don't particularly appreciate that the attenuation is post-quantizer.
Scion will quantize the output, but if you want to attenuate on a per channel basis, it will throw the quantized signal out of tune. This is due to the channle attenuators being post quantizer. In my own patches, I would almost always put the attenuator pre-quantizer. If the atteniation is post quantization you might as well have just left is as a sample and hold function. At least Instruo had the sense to set the slew post-quantization; however, it is not nearly long enough to be helpful to me in many situations. The way this module is designed doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I have spoken with Instruo about this, and he seems to like how it's set up. We have agreed to disagree on these points.
Another bummer about this module was that it malfunctioned on me during the warranty period, and Instruo didn't believe me that it was busted, so I had to fix it myself. Even after I sent videos of the module after I had it fixed, with the explanation of what was malfunctioning from the engineer who worked on it, Instruo still threw shade and acted like I was lying or just didnt know what i was talking about. Not cool....

EDITED Jul 6th 2023, 20:52

I am looking for a mixer modul with around 4 inputs that are panable with a stereo out? I am open for ideas.
-- DareDenis

Doepfer A-138s.
Don’t look any further.
-- Sweelinck
thanks! That what I was looking for!

Are you going to use an external sequencer? Above all, a clock source and clock modulators would be missing. Pam's is a very good option https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alm-busy-circuits-pamela-s-pro-workout,
and maybe a simple clock divider
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-160
-- ferranadsr
I will use Cubase. A clockdevider would be wise . Thanks!

Thanks for reaching out. The module went defective several months ago, and I have since resolved the issue. I am just getting around to letting the world know about it now.
I was able to prove my module was defective at long last; however, it took so long that I was forced to replace the module with another LFO. I don't normally trust a module after it fails on me, so I sold Ochd.
I certainly don't mind providing videos. I have offered MANY videos to a long list of companies whose gear has failed while under warranty (I have even sent videos of the mute switches Befaco made for you). I am often put into a situation to prove myself to these people. I don't mind sending videos to troubleshoot the issue; however, I do not enjoy when people assume I am lying or just a fool who doesn't know how to use the gear.
Whenever I contact the manufacturers about failed modules, I get the same response, “This isn't the normal experience we see in eurorack”. However, with the high rate of manufacturer defect I have witnessed, it does seem like the typical experience from where I sit. Companies tell me there is a 1% failure rate within the eurorack industry, however, the failure rate in my studio is almost 40%. No lie.....
As for Instruo, the experience has been so bad that when the next Instruo module malfunctioned on me (which was the Scion, and it was still under warranty. In all, I've had three Instruo modules fail on me), I had a friend fix it rather than send it to Instruo. I initially contacted Instruo and sent several videos over the course of a week. He still didn't believe me. Even after I got back to him about how I had it fixed and that it was an issue with the input jack, he still acted like I was lying to him. Not a good way to run a biz. Especially when you charge top dollar for your devices.
My review here is to ensure others know about the low-quality standards of this company. I'd hate to have them find out the same way I did.

Hi Humdrum,

first of all I'm sorry to hear that this has been your experience with the module. It's absolutley not what I know others have experienced, it's not how Instruo operate for ochd or in general and this isn't what I'd expect. This isn't to deny your experience but simply to say that's not how things operate normally.

Just speaking generally videos are a really handy way for a company to hear and see what's happening and that can sometimes speed up the process and help diagnose.

Would you like to provide me with further information so I can follow this up with Instruo?

All the best, Ben.

EDITED Jul 6th 2023, 15:49

Mine broke within four months—inferior build quality. The folks at Instruo were extremely prideful and rude when I initiated the return—making me send many videos over multiple days before they believed it was busted. One of the LFOs wasn't working, and it was an obvious warranty issue, yet they still doubted everything I would say, even after I would prove it in a video—horrible experience. I would advise finding another LFO. I would not recommend Instruo at all. I have had 3 of their modules fail due to poor manufacturing.
Horrible module made by an awful company.

EDITED Jul 6th 2023, 13:43